Originally Posted by spino1:
“The trouble with new ITV1 shows at the moment is that you think that they they've reached the bottom of the barrel and then they surprise you by going even deeper. People realise that which is why their new shows are not doing well”
It's funny isn't it with Penn and Teller everyone thought it was great and a fairly original spin on both talent shows and magic shows when it was rating well. A few hundred thousand viewers gone later and it's suddenly on a par with Celebrity Wrestling.
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“I know that Germany is a lot more into both gender football than we are, but I do think BBC and ITV should show the Women World Cup and BBC1 and ITV1. Bet it would do pretty well - ~2/3m for normal games and ~6m for England maybe.”
I am yet to meet a football fan who has any interest at all in women's football. 2-3m would not be good enough for BBC1/ITV1, and considering 6m is at the lower end of what some England mens games can get I think that is being very ambitious.
Originally Posted by Only_You:
“The actress who played Raquel in Only Fools and Horses has just said on This Morning that there were plans for an Only Fools and Horses Christmas Special to celebrate the 30th year of the show before the death of John Sullivan.”
Thank **** he died then.
Originally Posted by Grenade:
“Live streaming is good to have for when a series is quite good and to watch a few minutes here and there, but it isn't essential- in fact far from it. There is no relationship between series ratings and whether there is live streaming and anyone using the 'coverage' theory just needs to remember that there is almost no coverage anyway, and Daily Star & OK Magazine are hardly going to ignore the show due their owners and the whole ethos behind signing the show.
Social media is far more influential, Big Brother needs to move along with the times, something Channel 4 never quite grasped.”
Bollocks - although certainly not the only issue having steadily declined by about 300,000 a year for a few years BB10 lost around 1.3m viewers an episode on BB9. The live feed generates the news posted not just on fansites, but also on the official site (in BB10 it went hours without updates and of the promise videos at least half were not action from the house - just pre-recorded opinion pieces or unseen audition stuff etc.).
Social media is influential of course - but Twitter and Facebook are bottom up strategies. The buzz comes from people seeing things for themselves and talking about them - not being fed limited information in a top down strategy and then being expected to appreciated a 140 character summary of everything which happened in the house over the last six hours.
The show will have a far greater social media presence if people are discussing what is happening on the live feed and the numerous reports generated on fansites, forums and Digital Spy as a result of it.
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Very strong rating for the return of Undercover Boss. About the only standout figure from last night.
Luther has been very consistent all series and has more than earned a 3rd run.”
I was quite surprised Undercover Boss returned as I thought it performed quite poorly last year. Then again, I thought the same about Luther too. I wonder if it'll get an extended run next year, or perhaps if only 4-5 episodes be stripped across a week.
Originally Posted by
D.M.N.:
“Soap ratings: http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/ne...astenders.html
Hollyoaks again above 1m, with a solid audience for the first look - is there a big storyline this week or something?”
Not really - the episodes from the new series producer began airing last week (just six months after taking over!) and although it's been fairly mundane stuff so far it's all rather well done and a noticeable improvement on recent weeks.
I think though now Hollyoaks will be constantly on the bubble unless it can begin hitting the 2m mark again - heck, even hitting 1.5m. Jimmy McGovern thinks it is pretty much doomed thanks to shows like The Only Way is Essex and Geordie Shore being cheaper to make to grab the audience, and LIME, the producers of Hollyoaks, pretty much being responsible for all such shows in the UK.
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/s143/...-mcgovern.html
Of course though people were saying similar things when Big Brother came around, and then we had one of the strongest periods of new dramas coming out of the US and a mini-revival of drama on the BBC with the likes of Spooks, Life on Mars etc.
I think ITV, C4 and Sky are all upping their game at the moment when it comes to drama - sitcom is the genre where Britain is seriously lagging behind at the moment, but heck even if we get 2-3 pre-watershedsitcoms from ITV as a result of Coronation Street that is probably more than in the entire last decade.