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I really don't want Helen to win
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Kablamo
06-07-2011
Devious woman. Along with Zoe they were both a completely nasty pairing.

Yes, she has done well at times during the show but I have to question if she was wholly responsible for the achievements she was given or were the people that were standing next to her edited out, not overly-gratuitously-massively praised by Karren or just plain ignored.

She made a huge mistake this week, tried everything in the book to put Melody down as well (probably her and Zoe disliked her for being another woman and better looking at that) and just didn't bother trying at all.

I think there are far worthy contestants there who have actually ran successful businesses and not stood alongside somebody in their working life with the delusional view that they are good at business.

I hope she fails.
Haruhion
06-07-2011
That's good to know.
Kablamo
06-07-2011
Originally Posted by Haruhion:
“That's good to know.”

It is.
trevvytrev21
06-07-2011
She's quite snide. Lordalan didn't seem all that keen in the BR.
DUNDEEBOY
06-07-2011
Originally Posted by trevvytrev21:
“She's quite snide. Lordalan didn't seem all that keen in the BR.”

Being on the "winning team" all these tasks makes her think she is allowed to be not winning them herself as Sugar pointed out
sutie
06-07-2011
Apart from this week, I think she's been extremely impressive.
Elan Morin
06-07-2011
her ego become too big after being in the winning team for 9 weeks.

she is quite snide. and does not take criticism very well
jdayeh13
06-07-2011
She seems fair to me. I feel she has to be quite bold to be taken seriously be Sugar (but I agree he didn't seem keen). Personally I thought the attempt to take over PM was quite positive. However, it was clearly tactical (trying to impress) as obviously Melody wouldn't give it up.

The other girls have been far worse, but because Helen is generally polite and professional, these moments are leapt on by others.
marvola45
06-07-2011
I wasn't keen on her anyway, but definitely don't want her to win now.

She's been very lucky in this process so far, but has allowed that to go to her head.
masterquan
06-07-2011
you sound jealous along with dundeeboy. She's the most honest one out of all them. Just gets on with her work and is very very good
DUNDEEBOY
06-07-2011
Originally Posted by masterquan:
“you sound jealous along with dundeeboy. She's the most honest one out of all them. Just gets on with her work and is very very good”

Honest in what way she is great organiser and can pitch but being on all the winning teams went to her head, Sugar stopped her tonight with that,

She has watched Yasmina, Stella and some of the other female winners and based her tactics on that,

Fine idea if he was looking for another apprentice he is not
-Sid-
06-07-2011
Me neither, not anymore. Can't remember who Karen described as passive-aggressive, but if ever there was ever a candidate that was befitting of that tag, it's Helen.
Mr_XcX
06-07-2011
Sorry but I think Helen has been a great candidate.

What do y'all expect. To sit like a damp rag while Melody and Tom try to get her fired. Lord Sugar also may have sacked her.

She was only standing up for herself because Melody was a pathetic PM.
Paulie Walnuts
06-07-2011
Originally Posted by sutie:
“Apart from this week, I think she's been extremely impressive.”

She's far too 'safe', and I've yet to hear her come up with any innovative ideas of her own.

All in all, she seems rather dull.
-Sid-
06-07-2011
Originally Posted by Mr_XcX:
“Sorry but I think Helen has been a great candidate.

What do y'all expect. To sit like a damp rag while Melody and Tom try to get her fired. Lord Sugar also may have sacked her.

She was only standing up for herself because Melody was a pathetic PM.”

It's not Helen's boardroom performance that bothered me. It was the way she deliberately undermined Melody during the task by trying to take over as PM. All that achieved was to create a tense working environment and make Melody doubt herself. Helen was also very stubborn about selling to retailers and that makes me question how clever she actually is.
Mr_XcX
06-07-2011
Originally Posted by -Sid-:
“It's not Helen's boardroom performance that bothered me. It was the way she deliberately undermined Melody during the task by trying to take over as PM. All that achieved was to create a tense working environment and make Melody doubt herself. Helen was also very stubborn about selling to retailers and that makes me question how clever she actually is.”

I agree this is perhaps her biggest fault throughout the process.

However, Helen saw Melody was being a terrible PM and was trying to save herself from potentially being fired by asking to take over. I don't think she was being malicious in any way.

Yet I do agree that if Melody did agree to let her be PM they may have lost by a bigger margin.
ajtombs
06-07-2011
I agree with Kablamo. It has all gone to her head and she now thinks shes something special. When really.. how much has she actuall done herself?

Also.. look give me an excellent food product, give me a hour meeting with 5 Tesco employees and i no doubt also could get an order for 200k - and so could all of you

*edit - also agree with the comments about asking to take over.

Why would you ask to do this? Surel if you thought melody was going to get sacked then that is a good thing? As others said, she was just rude and under mining her (and again another example of her success going to her head)
Darcyprincess
06-07-2011
Originally Posted by Kablamo:
“Devious woman. Along with Zoe they were both a completely nasty pairing.

Yes, she has done well at times during the show but I have to question if she was wholly responsible for the achievements she was given or were the people that were standing next to her edited out, not overly-gratuitously-massively praised by Karren or just plain ignored.

She made a huge mistake this week, tried everything in the book to put Melody down as well (probably her and Zoe disliked her for being another woman and better looking at that) and just didn't bother trying at all.

I think there are far worthy contestants there who have actually ran successful businesses and not stood alongside somebody in their working life with the delusional view that they are good at business.

I hope she fails.”

Yes, I totally agree, I think that she found Melody to be her biggest competitor in the show and she tried to undermind her the whole task, especially with saying she thought that she should take over as PM! I think that she deliberately done it to make Melody feel insecure about herself and also doubt herself!

I think that she knew exactly what she was doing and totally showed her true colours. I think that Helen has been quite lucky in winning as many task as she has and I was really disappointed in her tonight. She spent so much time trying to bring Melody down she lost all reasoning of the task!

I also think that it should have been Tom that went and not Melody! It seemed that Sir Alan was really reluctant to get rid of any of them but after the amount of warnings that Tom had had, it was a massive surprise that it was Melody that he got rid of. I am sure that it was more to do with the fact that it would have been 4 women and only 1 man left if he had got rid of Tom!
marvola45
06-07-2011
Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts:
“She's far too 'safe', and I've yet to hear her come up with any innovative ideas of her own.

All in all, she seems rather dull.”

I dunno, I think her mini-meltdown tonight was quite entertaining...
Darcyprincess
06-07-2011
Originally Posted by Mr_XcX:
“Sorry but I think Helen has been a great candidate.

What do y'all expect. To sit like a damp rag while Melody and Tom try to get her fired. Lord Sugar also may have sacked her.

She was only standing up for herself because Melody was a pathetic PM.”

She might have had the most wins but she is just so very dull!

I really cannot see Sir Alan actually going into partnership with her!
Mr_XcX
06-07-2011
Originally Posted by Darcyprincess:
“She might have had the most wins but she is just so very dull!

I really cannot see Sir Alan actually going into partnership with her!”

She has been the best IMO.

However, Lord Sugar seems to not like strong proffesional women.
Mr_XcX
06-07-2011
Originally Posted by Darcyprincess:
“She might have had the most wins but she is just so very dull!

I really cannot see Sir Alan actually going into partnership with her!”

Yes, and that is why she is easily the best.

If the tasks are designed to show buisness skills then winning 9 times in a row is surely impressive.
Professor Ice
06-07-2011
Lord sugar has stated many times in the BR 'if you see something is wrong why the hell did you not step in and sort out the problem' yet once someone (Helen) did he back tracks and makes it out to be the biggest faux pas in business

come on make your mind up either its step in or just go with the flow and let the team take the hit.
Mr_XcX
06-07-2011
Originally Posted by Professor Ice:
“Lord sugar has stated many times in the BR 'if you see something is wrong why the hell did you not step in and sort out the problem' yet once someone (Helen) did he back tracks and makes it out to be the biggest faux pas in business

come on make your mind up either its step in or just go with the flow and let the team take the hit.”

Agree, I also did not like it how he said to Helen that I have not spoken to you as if it is bad she has won 9 times in a row.

He seems to deem it important that you be brought back into the boardroom or be on the losing team so he can "talk" to them.
marvola45
06-07-2011
Originally Posted by Professor Ice:
“Lord sugar has stated many times in the BR 'if you see something is wrong why the hell did you not step in and sort out the problem' yet once someone (Helen) did he back tracks and makes it out to be the biggest faux pas in business

come on make your mind up either its step in or just go with the flow and let the team take the hit.”

But Helen was creating the problem in the first place by being so hell-bent on her retail 'strategy'.
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