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I really didn't warm to Melody on 'You're Fired!'
Menk
06-07-2011
The woman seems to have no sense of humour and continued to take herself seriously to the bitter end.

Don't get me wrong, she laughed all right, and she was all polished smiles, but every question that was asked of her was met with self-justifications and meaningless waffle. I never got the impression that she actually laughed at herself once.

Compare that to many of the candidates on 'you're fired!' who show their best side on the show and show you that although they may have got carried away during the process (Zoe, Edna etc) they prove that they are human on 'You're Fired!' and you end up liking them for it.
the_lostprophet
07-07-2011
Agree and said this in another thread - it seems that she takes herself quite seriously rather in the style of Vinny Disneur.
marvola45
07-07-2011
I thought Melody was quite sweet.

She really reminds me of someone I went to uni with - she bulldozes her own ideas through on every project, but at heart is a very decent person, and I view Melody as the same. A bit arrogant and full of her own self-importance but there's no real malice there. From what I can remember, she's one of the least bitchy women this series.
-Sid-
07-07-2011
She came out looking radiant and smiley and up for a laugh.

But Ruby's initial hostility seemed to make her uneasy (as it did me) and she never quite recovered.
Vasa
07-07-2011
Originally Posted by -Sid-:
“Ruby's initial hostility seemed to make her uneasy (as it did me) and she never quite recovered.”

Yes, I thought that was harsh myself. I'm no fan of Melody (quite the opposite actually - glad she's gone) but that seemed to be deliberately provocative behaviour to me. I think also having to justify her job in Communications to Dara, and then being told by Ruby she was no good at it, must have been more than a little aggravating... If I had been in Melody's shoes, I wouldn't have bothered trying to justify myself; I'd just tell them LS obviously checked all that stuff out in advance of beginning the process and felt confident it added up.

I mean, c'mon... I don't think any of us would take too kindly to being told we were crap at a supposedly fake job on national TV. No doubt the woman still wants to have a career after YF airs!
Paulie Walnuts
07-07-2011
English isn't her first language and I wonder if, like other people of a similar vein, the subtleties and nuances of the English language, such as irony & sarcasm, go completely over the top of her head.

I cite Lord Sugar's comments a couple of weeks ago in the boardroom as an example, when she really thought he was praising her for the blatant name-dropping in her CV.
Takae
07-07-2011
Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts:
“English isn't her first language and I wonder if, like other people of a similar vein, the subtleties and nuances of the English language, such as irony & sarcasm, go completely over the top of her head.

I cite Lord Sugar's comments a couple of weeks ago in the boardroom as an example, when she really thought he was praising her for the blatant name-dropping in her CV.”

Nah. Like most arrogant people, she was too dense to notice.
Tyjet
07-07-2011
I thought she came across fine & was definitely up for a joke. Did you not hear her ask "Did I mention it was global?"?
Menk
07-07-2011
Originally Posted by Tyjet:
“I thought she came across fine & was definitely up for a joke. Did you not hear her ask "Did I mention it was global?"?”

Ok I'll give you that one (though obviously rehearsed )
Jepson
07-07-2011
I thought she came across quite well although I had hoped that with the BBC's make up people involved we would see a much more natural look.

She'd look really lively without her painted face. (We got a tiny glimpse on one of the 'just woken up' shots.
neon tiger
07-07-2011
I thought that the guests were quite hard on her. Dara was trying to be fair, but the others were harder on her than they usually are on contestants.
Zoltan Smith
07-07-2011
She was ok but it was laughable when she tried to justify her fake business.


It was pitiful to watch
Swanandduck
07-07-2011
She came across as very rehearsed, like most of the candidates on this year's 'you've been fired'. They are obviously all groomed, trained and practised on how to behave on the' fired 'show and it has lost the bite it used to have. All you see are big fake smiles, insincere self deprecation and even more insincere praise for their competitors.
I was glad to see the panel up the ante for once and really try to shake the false act and patter.
Keefy1
07-07-2011
Originally Posted by Zoltan Smith:
“She was ok but it was laughable when she tried to justify her fake business.


It was pitiful to watch”

In what way is it a fake business? Because you don't understand it?

I'm no fan of consultancy businesses especially those based on motivational speaking, which is what Melody's seems to be, but she seems to be getting work and doing OK for herself, so I don't understand how anyone can call it fake, even if you don't personally think it adds mich value as a service.
Menk
07-07-2011
Originally Posted by Swanandduck:
“She came across as very rehearsed, like most of the candidates on this year's 'you've been fired'. They are obviously all groomed, trained and practised on how to behave on the' fired 'show and it has lost the bite it used to have. All you see are big fake smiles, insincere self deprecation and even more insincere praise for their competitors.”

I do agree with this, but, if you are so rehearsed, why would you choose to come across as taking yourself too serously? I just think the girl can't help it!
Zoltan Smith
07-07-2011
Originally Posted by Keefy1:
“In what way is it a fake business? Because you don't understand it?

I'm no fan of consultancy businesses especially those based on motivational speaking, which is what Melody's seems to be, but she seems to be getting work and doing OK for herself, so I don't understand how anyone can call it fake, even if you don't personally think it adds mich value as a service.”

Ok - what topic is she motivational speaking on and who would book her, can you tell me what her last gig was ?

"She seems to be getting work" - from who and how do you know it is paid work?

How is it that this "successful business woman" has failed to expain in any way shape of form what she does to her team mates (in 10 weeks ffs) or on tv when asked 3 times?
Socha
07-07-2011
Originally Posted by Swanandduck:
“She came across as very rehearsed, like most of the candidates on this year's 'you've been fired'. They are obviously all groomed, trained and practised on how to behave on the' fired 'show and it has lost the bite it used to have. All you see are big fake smiles, insincere self deprecation and even more insincere praise for their competitors.
I was glad to see the panel up the ante for once and really try to shake the false act and patter.”

Originally Posted by Menk:
“I do agree with this, but, if you are so rehearsed, why would you choose to come across as taking yourself too serously? I just think the girl can't help it!”


I suspect Melody has quite a narcissistic streak about her, with an inflated sense of self-importance. In that way I think she really can't help herself and her new vulnarability came across as somewhat rehearsed. My feeling is she will do everything to protect her self-image and it showed on YF as well.

I have the feeling the candidates are being prepared for the YF-show and trained on how to soften the image they have been portraying on the show itself, which is only fair I think, because editing is responsible for a BIG part of that public imageforming.

Melody seemed well aware that she'd come across as a non-listening soloist but her self-confessed learning points seemed somewhat rehearsed. I doubt whether she will listen more or allow herself to come across as less strong or more vulnerable. Her repeating those learning points gave the impression that part was indeed rehearsed with a goal to protect her public image.



Edit:: having said that, what I did admire in Melody was her professional attitude about not making or taking things personal and not getting into bitchy fights. But that could also have to do with a feeling of superiority. So, not sure yet what to really make of that.
Keefy1
07-07-2011
Originally Posted by Zoltan Smith:
“Ok - what topic is she motivational speaking on and who would book her, can you tell me what her last gig was ?

"She seems to be getting work" - from who and how do you know it is paid work?

How is it that this "successful business woman" has failed to expain in any way shape of form what she does to her team mates (in 10 weeks ffs) or on tv when asked 3 times?”

It's quite simple. Go and look on her website if you're that bothered about it - I'm not doing your research for you. Motivational speaking is a topic in itself. The website has numerous examples of where she's worked and for whom she's spoken. The onus is on you to prove her business is a fake - you're the one who made the statement which is actually libellous unless you can prove it's true.
Zoltan Smith
07-07-2011
Originally Posted by Keefy1:
“It's quite simple. Go and look on her website if you're that bothered about it - I'm not doing your research for you. Motivational speaking is a topic in itself. The website has numerous examples of where she's worked and for whom she's spoken. The onus is on you to prove her business is a fake - you're the one who made the statement which is actually libellous unless you can prove it's true.”

The problem with your reply is that I have done just that and the result: no answer to any of my questions.

Now where do you go?
brangdon
07-07-2011
Originally Posted by Keefy1:
“Motivational speaking is a topic in itself. The website has numerous examples of where she's worked and for whom she's spoken.”

She said she didn't just talk. It's hard to tell what else she does, though, even though quite a long segment of the programme was devoted to letting her explain it.

It sounded like she was helping volunteer children to spend government money on socially worthy projects.
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