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silkstone
07-07-2011
Come on now- I understand that it does fall into the traditional job type but she deserves credit for it.

It's a fairly simple concept, Melody has business experience and a commercial mind, most of the people who give a toss about social issues don't. She provides a service to them which might help to create a financially viable means of addressing the issue.
Cadence
07-07-2011
Originally Posted by silkstone:
“Come on now- I understand that it does fall into the traditional job type but she deserves credit for it.

It's a fairly simple concept, Melody has business experience and a commercial mind, most of the people who give a toss about social issues don't. She provides a service to them which might help to create a financially viable means of addressing the issue.”

I don't understand where the funding comes from. The kinds of young people she mentions as able to benefit from her services - homeless young people, young carers, teenage parents - aren't usually in a financial position to buy them. Are her clients charities or local authorities with a budget allocated to tackling youth social issues, or independently wealthy altruists - those sorts of people or organisations? Is what she provides a life/work skills training course with her as the main speaker, or motivational speaking?
silkstone
07-07-2011
That's a question for Melody. I'm not part of the business so I don't know the intricacies, my guess would be a combination of government funding (through the Prince's Trust maybe) and wealthy individuals who have been approached.

I'd say she provides what is neccesary, be it a training course, workshop or motivational speech. It's a new 'industry' so there won't be rigid frameworks to apply to each case.
Cadence
07-07-2011
Originally Posted by silkstone:
“That's a question for Melody. I'm not part of the business so I don't know the intricacies, my guess would be a combination of government funding (through the Prince's Trust maybe) and wealthy individuals who have been approached.

I'd say she provides what is neccesary, be it a training course, workshop or motivational speech. It's a new 'industry' so there won't be rigid frameworks to apply to each case.”

Right, thanks.

It's not an area I'm at all familiar with and I still can't form an idea of the specifics of what she does. This is obviously a problem for a lot of people, as came up on the 'You're Fired' show, and I do think it would have been worthwhile for Melody to develop a concise and easy to understand explanation.

I tend to agree with Lord Sugar when he said that Melody seems "focussed on collecting accolades". Possibly this is important in her work, but to the average person, mentioning the Dalai Lama, Archbishop Desmond Tutu and Al Gore as mentors seems pretentious.

I'm wondering as well how outcomes are measured and what they show. Usually if public money is devoted to something it's on the basis of research into the cost effectiveness of whatever is being invested in. Presumably with young people, the results (in terms of reduced benefits claims, reduced crime rate, greater economic activity, reduced calls on health and social services, wider practice of conservation measures in response to environmental concerns) are all in the future, although it seems some immediate objective measure of efficacy could be taken, apart from personal testimonials.

I know you won't know all this by the way! They're things I would have been interested to hear Melody speak about, rather than Al Gore or the Dalai Lama. I'm glad someone's made the effort to explain the particulars of what it is Melody does. I was about to post asking if someone who worked in the field or understood it could explain when I came across your posts.
silkstone
07-07-2011
Originally Posted by Cadence:
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I'm wondering as well how outcomes are measured and what they show. Usually if public money is devoted to something it's on the basis of research into the cost effectiveness of whatever is being invested in. Presumably with young people, the results (in terms of reduced benefits claims, reduced crime rate, greater economic activity, reduced calls on health and social services, wider practice of conservation measures in response to environmental concerns) are all in the future, although it seems some immediate objective measure of efficacy could be taken, apart from personal testimonials.

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That's something that I had wondered about aswell, I notice on her website there aren't many case studies - I'd say she views her position as a consultant / trainer and speaks to the attendees in fairly general business terms when the issue they are interested in probably needs a very specific approach.

It's something that probably needs to be refined but I respect her for the idea.
soulmate61
07-07-2011
Originally Posted by Keefy1:
“If you're going to slander and libel people and companies, please get your facts right.”

Keefy1, have you ever learnt slander is spoken? What has been spoken in this forum? As someone said, "please get your facts right."

Quote:
“InspireEngage International is not registered as a company in www.companieshouse.gov.uk, nor registered as a business name.”

The above posting referred to "InspireEngage International" not being registered. "Please get your facts right."

Keefy1 -- as someone said, "With the slightest bit of effort do return with your lawsuit for libel, now being awaited by the MODS who have been made aware of your threat.

Originally Posted by Keefy1:
“if you've got the decency.”

No Keefy1, from your exhibition you make of yourself it looks very unlikely you've got the decency. Your do reveal though an uncanny resemblance to a certain person on The Apprentice last night. Are you that person? Now Keefy1, is that libel? With the slightest bit of effort do carry out your threat.
Zoltan Smith
07-07-2011
Originally Posted by soulmate61:
“Keefy1, have you ever learnt slander is spoken? What has been spoken in this forum? As someone said, "please get your facts right."



The above posting referred to "InspireEngage International" not being registered. "Please get your facts right."

Keefy1 -- as someone said, "With the slightest bit of effort do return with your lawsuit for libel, now being awaited by the MODS who have been made aware of your threat.



No Keefy1, from your exhibition you make of yourself it looks very unlikely you've got the decency. Your do reveal though an uncanny resemblance to a certain person on The Apprentice last night. Are you that person? Now Keefy1, is that libel? With the slightest bit of effort do carry out your threat. ”

booooooooooooom


busted
DarthSillac
07-07-2011
Reading her website, it just sounds like a cult or at best a giant con to take government funding
Toggler
07-07-2011
Originally Posted by DarthSillac:
“Reading her website, it just sounds like a cult or at best a giant con to take government funding ”

How very true, a load of old baloney, buzzwords, and general tripe - so beloved of quangos.
Parker45
08-07-2011
On her website she has a photograph of herself winning the "Asian Woman of Achievement Award 2009". In fact the award is the "Women of Achievement" not "Woman". This report and photograph shows her present at the 2009 awards, in the green dress, but she is not mentioned as one of the winners: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...ards-2009.html
Toggler
08-07-2011
Originally Posted by Parker45:
“On her website she has a photograph of herself winning the "Asian Woman of Achievement Award 2009". In fact the award is the "Women of Achievement" not "Woman". This report and photograph shows her present at the 2009 awards, in the green dress, but she is not mentioned as one of the winners: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...ards-2009.html”

She was in fact 'at' the awards and elbowed her way onto the stage. A fantasist. Expect the parents or family are wealthy and fund all this nonsense for her. Anything to get her out of the house and given them a bit of peace from having to cater for the food requirements of everyone from Nobel Peace Prize winners to Al Gore to Dalai Lama.
Zoltan Smith
08-07-2011
Walter Mitty
Trangia
09-07-2011
Originally Posted by Zoltan Smith:
“Walter Mitty”

Indeed.

She claims

* Winner, Woman of the Future Award – as presented by Princess Zahra Aga Khan. 2008

http://wof.realbusiness.co.uk/previo...ds/2008-awards

Indeed a winner, but in fact - The Woman of the Future Voluntary Award, not THE woman of the future as the claim sounds

* Outstanding Achievement in the Youth Sector (special Chairman’s award), Asian Women of Achievement Awards as presented by Prince Charles. 2009

http://awa.realbusiness.co.uk/previo...ds/2009_awards

Can't see her listed as a winner, except as a runner up for Young Achiever of the Year

* Finalist, ‘Young Achiever of the Year’, Asian Women of Achievement Award, 2009

Fair enough, that'd be the one above

* Winner, Volunteer of the Year Award – as presented by the Home Office. 2005

Quote:
“The Year of the Volunteer Awards 2005 have been created to acknowledge and celebrate the contribution of volunteers in England. Volunteers can be nominated in one of five categories and 2,005 of them will be rewarded with an HM Mint Volunteer Medal.”

One of 2,005 medal winners then.

* Award of excellence, Millenium Volunteers. 2001

http://www.ivr.org.uk/Institute+of+V...ers+report.pdf

Quote:
“The Millennium Volunteer programme aims to recognise young people’s volunteering through a Certificate for completing 100 hours, an Award of Excellence for 200 hours which is signed by a government Minister, and a Personal Profile which is a written statement highlighting the activities undertaken and benefits received.”

shefair
09-07-2011
thank you Trangia for that work, it really does seem as though she has been guilty of a lot of embellishment

Nevertheless well done Melody for getting nominated for the awards and winning at least one,

such a shame you felt the need for the embellishment which is one of the reasons people really did not trust you
Cherry-choc
09-07-2011
Originally Posted by Trangia:
“Indeed.

She claims

* Winner, Woman of the Future Award – as presented by Princess Zahra Aga Khan. 2008

http://wof.realbusiness.co.uk/previo...ds/2008-awards

Indeed a winner, but in fact - The Woman of the Future Voluntary Award, not THE woman of the future as the claim sounds

* Outstanding Achievement in the Youth Sector (special Chairman’s award), Asian Women of Achievement Awards as presented by Prince Charles. 2009

http://awa.realbusiness.co.uk/previo...ds/2009_awards

Can't see her listed as a winner, except as a runner up for Young Achiever of the Year

* Finalist, ‘Young Achiever of the Year’, Asian Women of Achievement Award, 2009

Fair enough, that'd be the one above

* Winner, Volunteer of the Year Award – as presented by the Home Office. 2005



One of 2,005 medal winners then.

* Award of excellence, Millenium Volunteers. 2001

http://www.ivr.org.uk/Institute+of+V...ers+report.pdf”

Great research. Putting up one award would be fine; why does she have to exaggerate?
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