Hello Ana, please take a seat
Mercedes says:
Hello, Aliyah.
Aliyah says:
So you've made it to the final 4, how does it feel?
Mercedes says:
It feels pretty nervewracking, to be honest, especially since I'm up against such strong competition.
Aliyah says:
Is there a level of self doubt there?
Mercedes says:
No, I don't think so; I consider myself as strong as any of the other candidates, but at the same time, I think it would be a very bad idea to underestimate any of them.
Aliyah says:
Very well, so It’s the final four, and you know Lord Sugar will have to make a decision on who the final two should be, in your opinion, who should be the final two?
Mercedes says:
I think Gav ought to be a cert for the final two; he's a very strong candidate in all areas, he gets along with everybody, and he was a fantastic PM.
Aliyah says:
Who should take up the other spot?
Mercedes says:
For the second spot, I'm torn - both Carlisle & I have won an equal amount of tasks, and I don't think either of us have made any big errors, and Tyjet might only have won once, but he's shown throughout that he's incredibly dedicated.
But I'm going to go with Carlisle - not because I don't think that Tyjet or I deserve it, but because I think it's very difficult for me to assess my own strengths, and I haven't worked closely with Tyjet so it's hard to assess his in this context either.
Aliyah says:
So you don't believe that you fully 'deserve' a place as the final 2, and that Carlisle and Gav are more deserving of a place? Lord Sugar is looking for candidates who see the winning goal, he wants fire and belief, those are the qualities he's looking for, he may not think you are right for this competition if you believe Carlisle and Gav should be the final two in place of yourself?
Mercedes says:
I do believe that I'm deserving of a place - I believe that all four of us are, for different reasons - but as I said, I think it's difficult for me to assess my own strengths.
From my own perspective, I think that I've worked well throughout this competition, and that I've done well both as a PM and as a team member.
But I think it would be arrogant of me to presume that all others involved in the competition see me in the same light.
Aliyah says:
Difficult to assess your own strengths...hmm at this point in the competition, Lord Sugar would need his candidates to have the ability to "know" themselves, would you say, that you lack in self-belief? By pointing towards Gav and Carlisle, you're also undermining Tyjet in a sense, and yoruself too, if you think those two should be the top two, then you might as well not try at all?
You did not mention yourself....completely, when I asked you who should be the final two, it seems as though, you find it difficult to picture yourself as the final two? Is there more to this?
Mercedes says:
Speaking frankly, I honestly believe that all four of us would be fantastic finalists, and that we've all demonstrated this throughout the competition.
Aliyah says:
So who would you say, is the weakest of the four? If you had to base it completely on each candidates qualities?
Mercedes says:
I don't wish to undermine Tyjet at all - I think he's been a great candidate throughout, and that although he's only won one task, he did tend to shine through in the tasks that he lost.
This is a difficult one, especially as I haven't worked with Tyjet, so he hasn't had an opportunity to demonstrate his strengths to me in the same way.
Aliyah says:
Do you believe you are a superior candidate to Gav and Carlisle? The two who you think are more worthy of a top two placing?
Mercedes says:
No, I don't believe that I'm 'superior', but I don't believe that I'm inferior either.
Aliyah says:
So you're on the same platform as them? So if you were to win this competition, you wouldnt believe you were a worthy winner either, because they were "all worthy winners?"
Mercedes says:
I believe that whoever the final two is, there'll be very little between them and the third- and fourth-placed finishers.
Oh, I would be a very worthy winner.
Aliyah says:
But equally, everyone else would be a worthy winner?
Mercedes says:
I've dedicated lots of time and energy to this competition, and I've done very well in difficult circumstances.
I believe that the distinctions between us as candidates are difficult to make out, and that it's in these interviews and the final that they will become more apparent.
Aliyah says:
You have to remember, you are in competition with each other, so at the same time, you must possess and demonstrate qualities that exceed the other candidates, but you find it difficult to admit to that?
Mercedes says:
However, as it stands, I think we've all come into the final four on a very strong footing.
I'm perfectly happy to admit that I'm a very strong candidate - I'm a team player but I also work well independently, I've come up with a couple of task-winning ideas, etc.
I'm also happy to state that in certain areas, my talents exceed those of the other candidates.
Aliyah says:
On the latest series of the american celebrity apprentice, donald trump fired the celebrity who didn't mention themslves in answer to this question regarding the top 2, why should Lord Sugar not do the same to you?
Mercedes says:
If he wants to fire me on that basis, then he's free to do so, but I think he would be making a mistake.
Aliyah says:
Go on
Mercedes says:
Throughout the tasks, I've demonstrated my abilities as a thinker and a communicator.
I succeeded in gaining a clear win as PM when my team was effectively halved by circumstances outside my control.
I've come up with some fantastic ideas - for example, I take credit for the idea of the celebrity RPG in the first task.
And I've also never taken a backseat in any task, at any point.
Aliyah says:
Is there anyone who has taken a backseat?
Mercedes says:
Of the remaining candidates, I don't believe so - and I know this sounds like a copout, but I genuinely can't think of any times when they have.
The closest example I can think of would be Carlisle perhaps being distracted as PM in the most recent task.
However, he had real life to think about - & I think we can all agree that that comes first - and not only did he pull it back massively to achieve a victory in the second day, but he's also been a fantastic candidate outside of that.
Aliyah says:
Ah, how did you feel about Carlisle during that moment when he was PM?
Mercedes says:
Honestly, I was slightly irritated, and I think he knows that.
Aliyah says:
Do you think it was a little unprofessional of him to make you wait like that without delegating any of the roles?
Mercedes says:
Oh, this is a difficult question.
Maybe - a little - but that said, outside of that he was a terrific PM, and I think we would have won the task thanks to that, whether we'd waited till the next day or not.
Aliyah says:
From what I remember, the bulk of the task was written up the following day - on the Saturday, and you seemed a little frustrated that night before? At that time, were you frustrated as Carlisle as PM?
at Carlisle*
Mercedes says:
I wouldn't say 'frustrated', because I understood that he had real life things to think about, and I'm sure that I would have been equally distracted if I'd had kittens in my room.
But yes, I was a little irritated that it was taking so long.
Aliyah says:
Did you voice your concern?
Mercedes says:
Yes, I would say so.
I asked him a few times to decide who would be writing what, and to his credit, he did listen to me and he delegated the writing that night.
Aliyah says:
Ok. Now you havent worked with Tyjet, but hes been in the losing team the most out of everyone else, do you really think the luck is simply not on his side, or there's more to it?
Mercedes says:
I do believe that he was very unlucky in his team members for the first two tasks.
I think it says something that three of the remaining candidates - me, Carlisle, & Gav - were on the winning team in those tasks.
I also believe that he was massively unlucky in his team for the final task, in that Seth was a totally absent PM.
Aliyah says:
However, you and Gav were left alone during Task 3, but still managed to win the task inspite of the loss of various team members, is Tyjet perhaps not pulling his weight and relying on the "luck" excuse?
Mercedes says:
[12:59:11] Mercedes says:
With regard to the third task, I believe that it was a very close-run thing, but that the other team did not totally understand the brief.
[12:59:29] Mercedes says:
I don't think that means they didn't work hard - I think it's clear from the great work they produced that they did.
[13:00:20] Mercedes says:
However, I think they made a key mistake by misunderstanding the 'point' of the task, and I think that worked against them.
[13:01:12] Mercedes says:
(that said, I don't think Tyjet is any more at fault for that than Carlisle, Mary, & Luke, and I also don't think that it's a game-losing mistake.)
Aliyah says:
What about for the first 2 tasks?
Mercedes says:
Do you mean, do I think Tyjet was at fault?
I think we can all agree that the teams were unbalanced in the first two tasks.
Aliyah says:
Do you think Tyjet had the capability to pull the team together, (like how you did with Gav)
Mercedes says:
IMO there's a fine line between pulling the team together and taking over as PM, and I think he was trying to avoid crossing that.
I am not sure that his idea for the first task was the best in the world, but I don't think they came up with any others?
Aliyah says:
Tyjet has already been accused of being a bit of a control freak though, would you agree with that? (based on BR stuff)
He was already accused of trying to "take over" during the BR discussions
Mercedes says:
Well - I think he was facing a very difficult situation, and he recognised that the team needed a strong leader (which maybe Luke didn't provide?)
I also think that sometimes it's necessary to take over to an extent.
For example, if I hadn't overriden Poth's decision to stop looking in Task 4, we would have lost by a far greater amount.
Aliyah says:
Ok. So you think Gav is almost a cert for final 2, do you think Gav has had an easy ride?
Mercedes says:
In terms of team members, I would say that he's been lucky throughout most of the game.
However, I think he's very much stepped to the forefront throughout, whether PMing or not.
Aliyah says:
Is Gav a hard worker?
Or has he taken a backseat, during any points?
Mercedes says:
He was a fantastic PM in the second task, and he really stepped up in Task 3 (he worked very hard on Florrie's marketing campaign).
During the tasks I've worked with him, he hasn't taken a backseat at all.
Aliyah says:
He's a little more quiet than the other candidates?
Mercedes says:
I believe that he was also the one who found the cheap Jagermeister and Bon Iver tickets, which won his team the task, so I don't think he was slacking at all there.
I think he is less confrontational than the others.
IMO he has a great deal of (deserved) self-belief.
Aliyah says:
Do you think being less confrontational is a good quality to have in business?
Mercedes says:
He's also had the disadvantage of never being in the BR properly, so he hasn't been able to speak up for himself in the same way.
Aliyah says:
Are there other candidates who are more confrontational?
Mercedes says:
Yes, I would say that it's a positive quality.
Gav has gained the respect of all the other candidates throughout this process.
I think probably all of us are slightly more confrontational than he is, yes.
Aliyah says:
Is it always a positive quality?
Mercedes says:
I should have qualified that, sorry.
In the way that Gav uses it, it's a positive quality.
He's straightforward and sensible, and he doesn't shy away from giving his point of view, but he doesn't do it in an overly-forceful way.
I think it COULD have worked against him if he'd had different team members (for example, if he'd been in Tyjet's place in the first task).
Aliyah says:
Do you think being less confrontational equates to lack of passion, perhaps?
Mercedes says:
No, I wouldn't say that; I think Gav's been dedicated to this game throughout.
Aliyah says:
Yes, if Gav had to work with a lot more confrontational team members, than would he not be eaten alive, with his approach?
Mercedes says:
I think that's a possibility, but then I also think it's a possibility that he could change his approach for dealing with different people.
Aliyah says:
Though you never faced the final boardroom, some could see that as a disadvantage as a couple of the others have really had to fight to stay here whereas you were never in as much danger, do you think it could hurt you to not have had as much boardroom time as some of the others?
Mercedes says:
I think I was at more of a disadvantage before I'd faced the initial BR in Task 4, and as I've said, I think Gav is perhaps disadvantaged by never having faced the BR at all.
I think it works in my favour to have had the chance to put my opinions across in the Task 4 BR, without having been seen as a negative contributor to the task by anybody.
Aliyah says:
Would you say that having never faced the boardroom almost displays a robotic quality to both Gav and yourself, as no sense of vulnerability has been exposed, as of yet?
Mercedes says:
People could choose to see it that way, but no - I don't think either of us could be described as 'robotic'.
Neither Gav nor I would have got nearly this far if we hadn't displayed passion throughout.
Aliyah says:
Would you consider yourself to be almost "too perfect"?
Mercedes says:
In fact, I would say that it was passion and resourcefulness, rather than a robotic tendency to always follow orders, that kept me out of the BR in Task 4.
Honestly, I think that's a bit of a non-insult.
Aliyah says:
Go on
Mercedes says:
I've succeeded throughout this process because of my strengths and passion, and if anybody chose to discount that on the basis that I'm 'too perfect', that wouldn't really be assessing me as a candidate.
I should add that I don't think I'm perfect in any sense of the word.
Aliyah says:
in what way?
Mercedes says:
What do you mean?
Aliyah says:
in what sense would you not consider yourself to be perfect?
Mercedes says:
Oh, okay.
I think I've made mistakes throughout this process, and that it's been very much a learning process for me.
For example, I pushed hard for a slogan in Task 2 that could, in retrospect, have damaged us badly.
I also think I underestimated the other team in Task 4, as I was quite confident that my team would win.
Aliyah says:
Very well.
In comparision with each member of the final four, can you give me an example or reason why you are stronger than each one of them?
Mercedes says:
Okay, sure.
I think, from what I've seen, I'm a more creative thinker than Tyjet.
(this is going on the games we came up with in Task 1, in which I think mine had the edge.)
Aliyah says:
Ok go on
Mercedes says:
I think I'm maybe more focused than Carlisle - for example, in Task 3, I focused intently on the brief & what was required of my team, whereas I don't think he quite did that.
And I think I'm stronger than Gav in that I've demonstrated that I can switch between being confrontational and non-confrontational as the situation requires it.
(as I've said, he might well do that too, but I don't think we've seen it in action.)
Aliyah says:
Very well. Thank you for your time Ana.
Mercedes says:
Thank you, Aliyah.