The John James & Josie Appreciation Thread (Part 193)

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tynetart

12-07-2011

Originally Posted by shemarchi:
“Grrrrr iv'e just done a really outstanding post (in my opinion) and my lappy went down .
Now its floating about in the ether somewhere.
If anyone finds it could they please forward it on to John James Parton ,Langwarrin. Victoria Australia.
I was only saying how i thought John was one of the most beautiful men i have ever seen (and at my age believe me when i say iv'e seen plenty)
I particularly liked his face in repose, just beautiful.

That wasn't the reason i love him so much though .
I loved his morals and the way he thinks.

He is so enigmatic it would take ages to begin to work out his reasoning and take on life.
I love that aspect of him . Never boring.

Just think if he had been the man everyone thought he was when he entered the house he would have taken advantage of Rachels and Sunshines abvious fancy for him , but he didn't and thats when i started to realllly like him.
A lovely, decent bloke.”

So ........do you like him then?..........don't be coy.......say what you.mean.......

shemarchi

12-07-2011

Pickles, come on now .
Imean which of us mentioned IRONING.
That is truly evil to an ironaphobic like me.
I know you really want to join my naughty gang really.
I can read between the lines you know.

tynetart

12-07-2011

Originally Posted by Wendilums:
“ pmsl

Afternoon Mrs P. Afternoon EVERYONE. Just got back from taking Grumpy Drawers to Hospital - all tubes removed............. for now . Been chasing up my results and left numerous messages on Secretarys answerphone to no avail, she best not be on her jollies mind Now time for a <3 ciggie ”

Still no results ..........do you want a lend of G........he fronts up and hovers until they cough up .........seriously I've got zero patience ........if they've got em I want em

...............I hope you are well any how

........and glad the news is good for Grumpy Drawers.........got a Victor Meldrew flash typing that ........need a smiley but can't choose ......

shemarchi

12-07-2011

Tynetart,
I will stand before any court in the land and admit to reallllly liking John James Parton.

I dont care ,i have no shame.
I dont even care if i never have sex again.
I dont care if i am on my own.
In the words of John James I just dont CARE
So there. Na na na na na.

tynetart

12-07-2011

Originally Posted by PICKLES60:
“time to cook and clean bbl”

RESPECT.....

shemarchi

12-07-2011

Got to go now folks. I need to get my dinner on

BBL all being well
Bye x

Wendilums

12-07-2011

Originally Posted by tynetart:
“Still no results ..........do you want a lend of G........he fronts up and hovers until they cough up .........seriously I've got zero patience ........if they've got em I want em ...............I hope you are well any how ........and glad the news is good for Grumpy Drawers.........got a Victor Meldrew flash typing that ........need a smiley but can't choose ......”

GP could call up to 6pmish so there's still hope for today. They forget there is a person waiting for these results not a number. We are making a two pronged attack 1. Me contacting Specialists Secretary directly - no joy AND 2. GP requesting histology report asap. Red tape eh! Had enough of it.

Wendilums

12-07-2011

Daughter here - Day 2 and final day before her other half returns from St Andrews

. Time for tea. BBL

dollydaydream81

12-07-2011

Originally Posted by abbieluvs22:
“Its interesting really cos I think Josie would be attractive to a lot of men for both her looks and personality and I think she would find a lot of men to be attracted to. I think she would do well with a bit of a wide boy actually - someone with a sense of humor and a genuine zest for life but also someone who can be protective of her and who could handle to more 'outgoing' side of Josie's character. This is where I think John felt out of his depth. In some ways I think Josie might have been better suited to JJ in the house. Someone a bit more rough and tough - probably like the boxers she is associating with now.

John on the other hand is more difficult. I think a lot of girls would fancy him initially but in terms of finding a long term partner this is where I think he will struggle. I think he thinks he wants the 'eye candy' the girl who everyone thinks is sexy and charming - but ultimately beauty fades and its personality that is left. The one thing John always said he liked in Josie is her lack of interest in all things material. Well unfortunately for John a lot of girls who look great spend a lot of time, money and worrying to look that good as not many look that great naturally. Trust me - I'm one of them and I live with 6 girls at Uni who are all the same. Its really refreshing to find a girl who like Josie isn't that bothered and yet still looks great. If I'd have been in BB house I fear I would have been a lot like Corin - spending all day in the mirror as I couldn't stand to look awful on TV (as bad as that is.)

What I mean is - if John's type is the 'eye candy' then he needs to get over his distaste for material girls, who care to much about looks and possessions as the two kinda of go hand in hand - not all the time but a lot of the time.

I think he needs someone who will challenge him both intellectually and emotionally. John doesn't want a walk over but I think at the same time Josie was too strong sometimes I think he wants to feel wanted and needed. Josie's fierce Independence probably left John feeling a bit useless. But like I said any girl who backs down to John probably wont last long either - I doubt John liks 'too nice.'”

Totally agree with you hun. I think Josie would definately suit a 'geezer' type, bit of a cheeky chappy who is also a bit sensitive

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Not sure about John either, he obviously loved Josies humour and her feistyness but then he's never going to meet a girl who does have that feisty side but knows when to back down. I could see John with a surfery, hippy type girl who is quite independant. Wouldn't have though S would have been his type at all but there you go. I think John used to battle with himself to be honest, he obviously loved Josie but it was almost like he didn't want to. I think John might be struggling more because Josie was his first love and rergardless of what's happened since it's hard to forget. And what would do my head in is the fact that it's unfinished business? Thats why I think they both struggle, last time Josie saw John was at the airport and he was telling her he loved her and would be back. Imo they both need closure, even if they shout and scream at eachother for an hour and clear the air so that bitterness starts to fade. Or just have angry sex lol!

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12-07-2011

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abbieluvs22

12-07-2011

Originally Posted by dollydaydream81:
“Totally agree with you hun. I think Josie would definately suit a 'geezer' type, bit of a cheeky chappy who is also a bit sensitive .
Not sure about John either, he obviously loved Josies humour and her feistyness but then he's never going to meet a girl who does have that feisty side but knows when to back down. I could see John with a surfery, hippy type girl who is quite independant. Wouldn't have though S would have been his type at all but there you go. I think John used to battle with himself to be honest, he obviously loved Josie but it was almost like he didn't want to. I think John might be struggling more because Josie was his first love and rergardless of what's happened since it's hard to forget. And what would do my head in is the fact that it's unfinished business? Thats why I think they both struggle, last time Josie saw John was at the airport and he was telling her he loved her and would be back. Imo they both need closure, even if they shout and scream at eachother for an hour and clear the air so that bitterness starts to fade. Or just have angry sex lol! ”

I have always though John would struggle more than Josie. Josie had things to distract her and she forgets things or puts them aside in her mind.

John thinks and probes things on his own admittance he says he never lets things go. I still have a feeling in my gut that John may be the one to regret in the long run.

cb33

12-07-2011

Originally Posted by abbieluvs22:
“I have always though John would struggle more than Josie. Josie had things to distract her and she forgets things or puts them aside in her mind.

John thinks and probes things on his own admittance he says he never lets things go. I still have a feeling in my gut that John may be the one to regret in the long run.”

I think you may be spot on there

bblover

12-07-2011

Originally Posted by tynetart:
“Cheeky.......I love you for the transcripts.......food for my thoughts.......I like things written down ...the words linger far longer concentrate the mind and bring what the eyes see and the ears hear to a meeting point of conclusion somewhere in the middle.

Still we search for the 'Real' John and Josie .....so many individual truths about them both...........enough thought food to make you feel full to the gunnels and icky.

For some reason I just expected that outside of the walls of BB they would be different together than the couple we had witnessed on the inside.
The stresses would be less .....they would have more time for each other and that their relationship should blossom in their private space.........less flash points and much more room for understanding........that the 'Real'John and Josie would 'Stand up' proudly and enjoy their lives free from prying eyes and meddling.

I don't know why I felt that way......but I suspect I'm not the only one........hungry for a sign perhaps that hard bitten cynics could just for once be wrong......and that true love can if we believe ..... conquer all

Thinking on it again and reading the words together with the memories that I have it seems that the walls of BB far from causing the stresses were to prove at times to be a theraputic environment to their budding relationship...... all be it a therapy that was totally off whack.and dealing with two very complex characters and an unfolding storyboard of tragic pasts ....a jousting present and a possibly.... maybe......future of love or loss.

WithIn the words of your transcript is a telling statement .....it was really early on and yet the magical and transforming qualities of the Diary Room are being mentioned as
John acknowledged that they used humour to defuse his moods and when he was 'getn angry ' or emotions were bubbling over it would be the cocoon of that small room that soothed........ and suggested sleeping on it........and always .....always punched home the need to look for the positives in their relationship.........who could forget the naming a list of things you love about each other.

The Diary Room .....a..'Confessional' space.....a breathing space and a sanctuary.........a place to cool your heels before heading back for snuggles under the doona.
Their togetherness was always on a very precarious balance point .......very strong and loving and also volatile and defensive.......sometimes that defense could become an attack that could switch in an instant and was cruel .....angry and hurtful.

Twas a merrydance they led us on and this thread was our confessional and place of refuge when all hell was breaking loose and the end of the World of JJJ was teetering on the edge.
In many respects it is still a refuge .......a hard habit to break .......

It would seem that when they both left the BB house that vital link to therapy and breathing space was gone......abruptly ended and they were on their own.
John and Josie .......their insecurities and volatility moved in together in a luxury pad on the Thames and with a fresh and numerous batch of stresses to contend with.
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I guessed it wouldn't be easy but I did hope that they would overcome the challenges of a new life together......and we saw and heard many instances that seemed to point to it ......there were PA's .......questions and tweets .........twitcams and magazine photoshoots that showed a couple getting their lives sorted and planning future times.

The split came as a bolt from the blue and was a staggering and traumatic time for them obviously but for all of us who thought we had it in our heads that all was rosy.......it was mystifying.
We had to wait a while to see TSAJ.......and for a hopefully fuller .....truer picture to present itself.
It showed John and Josie with the same flashpoints and the same kind of issues that they always shared.......tears ....frustrations.and aching vulnerability... ..... but this time without a place of sanctuary and mediation ......so harrowing to witness.............one skip forward and two steps back.

From what we learned ......the trips to Australia were breathing space.......and outside of the BB house it served as a very long distance Diary room in which to think.......to get his head together and evaluate the way it was ......is and could be .......Josie had her therapy in her beloved Bristol ......touched base and chewed the fat with friends.

John's final leaving was tortuous .......whatever the rights and wrongs there was a big love on display .......but unlike what happened in the BB house on Fire exit day and C.E.G...........there was no voice of reason ...........no sleep on it till morning and no mediator ........he had arrived at critical mass and under pressure he legged it..................Once through those Departure gates the endgame was set in motion..........not headed off at the pass by security he just walked away.

Whether either of them realised fully the high stakes of that is debateable ............but with the prying cameras and unresolved anger it was the very worst of scenarios for a couple such as John and Josie.
True to form they went into their own form of destruct mode ..........lets have misunderstanding and denial ......and then sadly in the absence of any facts the void was filled as their lives and relationship.were picked over with twittertattle and swipes of half truths and at that point I realised that sadly the dice had been rolled for the last time and it was game over.

All of those many truths that Cheeky talked of were growing daily......theyr'e still growing ......to some even Truth with the capital 'T' is a liar if it does not sing your song .......John and Josie are making new 'truths' everyday and the big Truth whatever it was is faraway and every day it fades a little more and just like the horizon will always be out of reach.

Of course this is just my version ........your truths will be special to each and every one of you ..........and that is as it should be”

Thanks Anetter.beautiful.

Originally Posted by JJJ_finland:
“Oh, I'm so glad his fans are having a fullfilled day”

I did have a fulfilled day actually,thanks

dollydaydream81

12-07-2011

Me too. I think, as sad as this might sound, Josie's unfortunately well adapted to getting through bad situations and John isn't quite as well adapted.
I agree I think John will have regrets but probably not for a while now. Without sounding too cheesy I really think they will both struggle to find a relationship with all the things that they had with eachother

kbabes2

12-07-2011

Posting this again.

HI

Hi all, Hope everyone is doing good
I was feeling ill last night but I am all better now!

Have to say, seems Josie really is moving on, and she looks incredible in her pics! If I could be her size, I'd be happy! Seems like she's having a fun day with her Mum and at the Curvissa press launch!

As for John James, he's away from all the fuss now, so I do hope he's settled (Girl or no girl! Btw that isn't a question lol

) My opinion is, it was too much, too soon for John and Josie, and I hope that now they are seperate from one another, they can live the life that they want

abbieluvs22

12-07-2011

Originally Posted by dollydaydream81:
“Me too. I think, as sad as this might sound, Josie's unfortunately well adapted to getting through bad situations and John isn't quite as well adapted.
I agree I think John will have regrets but probably not for a while now. Without sounding too cheesy I really think they will both struggle to find a relationship with all the things that they had with eachother ”

blimey imagine the uproar if one day it turns out that they are speaking again.

bblover

12-07-2011

Originally Posted by abbieluvs22:
“blimey imagine the uproar if one day it turns out that they are speaking again.”

I don't think there will be imo,on the contrary,think finally there will be an end to the side taking etc.

hollyBrown

12-07-2011

I like John's muscles

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