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Best and worst strategic moves
What would you say have been the best and worst strategic moves made in the past eleven series of Big Brother? (discounting S1) This could be a move that was made in the space of a few hours or span over a whole season, it could be an individual move or the move of an alliance.
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I won't go for the directly obvious ones, I'll just try to think of more unheralded moves!
![]() Best: Alison & Jun uniting and making a final 2, despite their mutual dislike of each other. (S4) Worst: Janelle targeting Jennifer following Kaysar's elimination, instead of targeting Maggie (S6) Ronnie immediately trying to play both sides in the first week, and then having the audacity to win HoH in the second week. (BB11) Alison actually attempting to get Jase to put himself on the block with Janelle (S7) |
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Best:The 'Brigade' and their plan which controlled almost every vote in the game (Bb12)
Worst: Jacob trying to trash-talk about Parker (Who happened to have a twist power to boot anyone he liked) (BB9) I have to slightly disagree with Ronnie winning HOH as being the worst move given it would have become speedily obvious which side he was really on, even if he hadnt won HOH. Where Ronnie screwed up was being flakey on if he was going to backstab Russell or not. |
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I just felt that Ronnie made far to many enemies from his move that he didn't need to make. Sure, he had already decided that he would align with Jessie's group, and that in itself wasn't a bad move. I just never understood why he bothered to string along the others to the extent that he did.
I can understand why he lead them on before the eviction, because he was the swing vote, but to flat out tell Laura and Jeff that they were safe, then nominating them was ridiculously dumb. He alienated half of the house there, then the other half with his dithering over whether to put Russell up when Jeff won the veto. That HoH week has to be one of the worst in Big Brother history. God I hated Ronnie. |
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Alison & Jun uniting and making a final 2, despite their mutual dislike of each other. (S4) My personal worst, one that springs to mind that might not necessarily be considered the worst (because she did make final 2 after all) was Erika nominating Danielle in her HOH week. (S7). It has been a while since I've seen S7 but I remember being annoyed so much at that. |
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Yeah, Erika put herself in a really dodgy position by voting out Danielle. Luckily for her, what she did after was actually pretty smart. (Forging that unlikely alliance with Janelle at F4, and then efficiently ditching it at F3, without really breaking her word)
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She definitely redeemed herself later on, I felt at the end that she deserved the win because I couldn't remember Boogie making many strategic moves, whereas Erika's endgame was as good as her BB4 gameplay.
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A couple of bad ones that come to mind for me:
S2: Chilltown's week 1 arrogance Hardy votes out Bunky instead of Will S3: Gerry vetoes Marcellas Marcellas doesn't use the veto at Final 5 Jason votes out Amy instead of Lisa at Final 4 S4: Jee nominates Michelle as a pawn against Erika Dana turns on the alliance of 7 Nathan vetoes Allison S4: The Horsemen's arrogance Drew nominates Holly in week 3 Adria nominates Marvin and Will Diane leaves the All-girl alliance to join with Drew and Cowboy Cowboy votes to evict his own sister Diane tells Drew he can't beat her in the final 2 S6: Howie nominates James and Sarah Kaysar lets go of the button Jen nominates Kaysar Janelle targets Jen for eviction instead of Maggie Ivette's goodbye message to Rachel Ivette doesn't throw final HOH to Janelle Allstars: Kaysar nominates Diane and Nakomis James targets Chicken George Janelle nominates Marcellas as a pawn Erika nominates Danielle S8: Kail tries to convince Daniele to vote out her own dad Mike annoys Dick so much in the veto competition that he gets himself evicted Daniele nominates Jen and Kail Dustin offers himself as a pawn Zach doesn't use the veto at the final 5 S9: Jacob repeatedly attacks the power couple Jen and Parker reveal to the entire house that Ryan and Jen are a couple Allison's lesbian lie The 'sexy six' control all the power in the house, yet still get one of their member's voted out Natalie and Adam vote to bring back James Natalie throws the endurance HOH Adam doesn't nominate James at the final 6 Natalie throws the endurance HOH... again Ryan takes Adam to the final 2 instead of Sheila S10: Brian overplays in Week 1 Ollie's HOH deal with Dan Replacement nominee roulette S11: Braden's racist attack on Kevin and Lydia Ronnie's week 2 Jeff backdoors Russell Kevin evicts Michele instead of Jordan at final 4 S12: Matt uses the DPOV to evict Kathy Lane's jury performance |
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I agree with most of them, couple of them only seem like bad moves in retrospect though. Could have gone either way at the time.
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Agree with most bar the BB10's replacement nominee roulette thing. If it was a bad move, Dan would have been hurt by it. Instead Dan won the whole thing 7-0 so thats one off the list.
Instead add Jessie stirring up trouble in BB10 when he was the one on the block and April thinking it would be okay to have Jessie as a pawn
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Yeah. I never quite understood why April thought someone as outspoken and douchey as Jessie would ever make for a good pawn, especially over someone who was well liked in the house.
God I hated April. |
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BB10- Keesha and Jerry not nominating Dan and Memphis in the latter stages; this was partly down to D&M's gameplay, but it cost both of them a chance of the final 2, its a shame that they didnt have an alliance of themselves. I can't actually remember- did Jerry ever form an alliance?
The worst of all time has to be Dustin going up as a pawn, he was just so full of himself, was glad to see him go. |
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BB10- Keesha and Jerry not nominating Dan and Memphis in the latter stages; this was partly down to D&M's gameplay, but it cost both of them a chance of the final 2, its a shame that they didnt have an alliance of themselves. I can't actually remember- did Jerry ever form an alliance?
The worst of all time has to be Dustin going up as a pawn, he was just so full of himself, was glad to see him go. The whole Pawn strategy irritates me to be honest as it rarely ever works and even when it does work, it usually leaves bad repercussions for the HOH who employed that strategy. Even HM's mentioning it as a possibility should be deemed worthy of a NCIS-style slap round the back of the head
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BB10- Keesha and Jerry not nominating Dan and Memphis in the latter stages; this was partly down to D&M's gameplay, but it cost both of them a chance of the final 2, its a shame that they didnt have an alliance of themselves. I can't actually remember- did Jerry ever form an alliance?
The worst of all time has to be Dustin going up as a pawn, he was just so full of himself, was glad to see him go. |
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BB10- Keesha and Jerry not nominating Dan and Memphis in the latter stages; this was partly down to D&M's gameplay, but it cost both of them a chance of the final 2, its a shame that they didnt have an alliance of themselves. I can't actually remember- did Jerry ever form an alliance?
The worst of all time has to be Dustin going up as a pawn, he was just so full of himself, was glad to see him go. I personally don't think Keesha can be blamed for not nominating Dan and Memphis in her second HoH week. Ollie had been against her for weeks at that point, and she had no relationship with Jerry. Keeping them around would have been an awful move, because they'd both still likely be out for her the next week, as would the survivor of a Dan/Memphis vote. Her only ally then would have been Renny, who sucked at competitions, so she'd have been a sitting duck at the final five stage. And on top of that, her second HoH was the fast-forward week. She had no time to make any deals with Jerry and Ollie, or even to secure Renny's backing to the idea - essential if Dan or Memphis had won FF veto. I guess in the end, it did come back to bite her in the arse, but then, that can be said of any HoH who didn't nominate the seasons winner. I think Keesha's real flaw was that she stopped playing for Keesha, and tried playing for the team. Her HoH win on FF night is one of my favourite moments ever (because of her mega-dramatic comeback against Jerry) but if you watch her celebrations and subsequent nominations, she's just as happy to to have secured her alliances safety as she is hers. I guess it's easy to fall into the trap of playing for the team, especially when your in a season with a divide, but players like Dan excelled and won, because though he played for his alliance to a point, he was ultimately playing for himself first. Keesha targeting and evicting Angie in her first HoH because she hadn't supported Steven the week before was a far dumber move. Angie was a threat to nobody, had no issues with Keesha, and in honesty, had done nothing wrong. |
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Do you think that we can add Porsche and Keith throwing the veto competition to this list?
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Well, for the one who survives eviction, it's not really a bad move. For the one who gets evicted... Hell yeah!
Nominees should never throw veto competitions no matter who their up against!
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Why would you NOT at least try and go for the veto- i just don't understand that!
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Why would you NOT at least try and go for the veto- i just don't understand that!
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If you are absolutely certain you have the vote and you get a 4 week free pass for "surviving", I'd throw my fellow nominee over the highest cliff I could find, along with the Veto.
Take this week; Porsche has Brendon,Rachel,Daniele,Jeff and Jordan 100%. Keith has Dominic,Cassi,Lawon 100%. That still leaves Shelly,Kalia and Adam as floaters... |
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But IMO you can never be absolutely certain in BBUSA.
Mind you, both Porsche and Keith are among the worst players ever. Neither of them could be certain what day of the week it is........ |
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If you are absolutely certain you have the vote and you get a 4 week free pass for "surviving", I'd throw my fellow nominee over the highest cliff I could find, along with the Veto.
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As long as you can work with your partner its still a dumb move even if you 100% have the vote.
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But IMO you can never be absolutely certain in BBUSA.
Take this week; Porsche has Brendon,Rachel,Daniele,Jeff and Jordan 100%. Keith has Dominic,Cassi,Lawon 100%. That still leaves Shelly,Kalia and Adam as floaters...
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We've had a couple of bad ones this year:
Keith and Porsche both throwing the veto competition Danielle pushing too hard for Jeff to be backdoored and painting a massive target on her back Brendon using the veto on Rachel instead of himself and based on the looks of things:
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