Several million people disagree with your opinion. Perhaps you should consider the possibility that it's just you not getting it?

I think there are always plotholes, or maybe things that don't make sense (particularly if scenes have been deleted). Nobody can always write cohesively, it's a fallacy in my opinion. Actually I think we actually agree, there are always things that don't make sense, they don't usually bother me, because the positive things in Doctor Who outweigh the bad things. However, I have some episodes I really hate (Hugnry earth and cold blood I'm looking at you). On the other hand there are some wonderful episodes in New and Classic Who which made me think about the world, and that's what I'm ultimately looking for in my drama. Am I inspired to have discussions with people about it, does it influence the way I think. Doctor Who has achieved that for me.

I agree with you, especially on the last point you made. Not so much the Hungry Earth/Cold Blood part though!

Actually that's kind of a thing I like about the show as well, however derided a particular episode is, there will always be a group of people who 'get it' and take something from it. Fear Her will remain for me one of the best episodes of Series 2.

Actually that's another point, if we as fans cannot agree on what is good in Doctor Who, why would we not understand that someone might not get it at all. To a certain degree I would be also interested, why the OP hates it so much that they did start a thread on it (not as a criticism). I don't like a lot of things either and I wouldn't normally start a thread on it, so my question is, do you know a lot of people who watch it?

Oh dear Glowbot has been let out of general discussion. How sad, never mind and I should point out that I'm rarely ever rude.

I love Dr Who and Torchwood so there.

Ah, no, a non-believer, hunt him/her, ahhhh....

Jokes. Depends what you want from a TV show, I guess.

Here's my tuppence.

I find it great escapism. Certainly daft (often unbelievably so) but in a good way. I watch it for the humour more than anything else, which luckily Moffat dishes out in spades. It has a great template for experimental story-telling, as well, so it's unique in that sense.

It's frustratingly unreliable quality-wise, too. If I lose interest any other TV show, I simply stop watching, but Doctor Who changes almost every series, every episode.

But I understand why many find it cringeworthy. Rory almost dying again at the end of the recent Pirate episode was one of the most hammiest, predictable and uninteresting scenes in Doctor Who I've ever seen.

Wish I could pick out a handful of absolutely perfect episodes to show you what it's capable of ... but one of the greatest (and in this case annoying) things about the show is that perfection is relative.

To answer your question, in short: Doctor Who isn't for everybody, but it's there for anybody.

I really think it helps to not think too deeply about what you are watching.
As a result I have enjoyed every single Doctor Who episode since 2005 (except Love & Monsters)
Just relax about what your watching and get absorbed by it. Don't think about all the things that are wrong with it.

On the other hand, it may not be a show that you like, just like I think Glee is absolute ***** Everyone has their own opinions.

I'm not afraid to say on here than Doctor Who is by far my favourite television programme. To be it is a work of genius.
(Although, I don't tend to talk about it in real life, because then I get teased and laughed at )

Just went out to have a look at the posting history, because of your comment. Sorry OP I'm not impressed and I now know why don't like Torchwood.

Says the man who posts on the WWE forum.

oh I actually saw that one, it was ok actually!


Hmmm, that's tricky. I enjoy Dexter, Battlestar Galactica, even some star trek so I am not opposed to sci-fi.

I do like Eastenders but I am under no illusion it can be quite badly written, however for the genre it is pretty good.

I don't think even for the genre TW or DW is that good, unless the genre is fanfic or slash fic.
I've seen every episode of TW, my flatmate likes it. But then she likes Hollyoaks too, the fanfic of the soap genre... porn acting without the sex.

I can see there are some interesting ideas there, I am not totally opposed to it, but it's so creaky and awful in places.... I find it hard to get into.

yes I know a lot. I suppose I am interested why people like it, and if maybe I am missing something.... or if there is anyone else who doesn't get it.

Even I find some scenes in a few episodes cheesy, but I tend to just ignore them...and cringe slightly.

I miss Ianto & his stopwatch

["Lots of things you can do with a stopwatch" was the actual line]

Seriously though, you should give TW another chance, just skip S1 & S2 and watch 'Children of Earth', which was very different to the first 2 series.

I loved S1 & S2, but if you didn't like its rather quirky, fun nature, then you might enjoy COE, which was more a dark political drama with aliens.

Evelyn Beatrice Hall coined that phrase.

You are correct in that she paraphrased what François-Marie Arouet is attributed to have said.

Yh, COE was brilliant, Still one of the best things things I've ever seen on TV,

Miracle Day has a lot to live up to..

You can't stand Doctor Who? Wecome aboard! Neither can many fans. They hate it!

How did you manage to read my post without noticing those above it echoing my sentiment?

Glowbot RE Dr Who

I feel violated.

better than most of the dr.who monsters

Don't . I have not taken you to my secret torture chamber yet.

Funnier as well!


Lach, you aren't helping yourself.

I'm not trying to help myself, but intend to torture someone