You hate chocolate!
Why you're a low life scum sucking nothing!

I know, what can I say? I am a non human

Thank you for taking that in the tone it was meant. Others around here lately would have taken that seriously.

Lack of sense of humour is a bigger crime than hating chocolate! Thankfully I still have one of those

But yeah it's getting a little intense around here these days. I read more than I comment thanks to it.

The OP loves Eastenders, it appears.

Clearly better written scripts and storylines there

Mods are the new ancient Time Lords. They time-scoop a thread and put it down somewhere else to watch us fight for their amusement. It's like The Five Doctors all over again

I really enjoy Dr Who but I think Torchwood lost its way very early on & now I just find it average. The only reason I watch it is because I really fancy Eve Myles (just don't tell Mrs BB).

That said she really fancies Jack loves the programme.

This thread is hilarious. If there are programmes I dislike, I certainly don't dwell on why I don't like them. People just have different tastes.

Oh, I Iove Doctor Who. I suppose there is a degree of nostalgia from watching it when I was younger when I was gripped from week to week.

I guess I can just about understand that some people dont like it- just about. But surely even the critics would have to acknowledge that the concept is intriguing and throws up endless possibilities. It is certainly better than all those American writer-boffins ever come up with as they endlessly recycle the same handful of sci-fi 'concepts' across what seem like hundreds of different shows.

The OP needs to pipe down and crawl away now

While we're at it:
I hate Glee!

I actually busted out laughing at that. Thank you.

So we lie to him?

Given what you have said you have seen of the show, I can understand, without agreeing, with your viewpoint. The current series (6) is, in my opinion, amazing. It is the only reason I'm in DW forums. It changed me from a sci-fi fan who watches DW because it is sci-fi into a Who fan.

The problem is that S6 has too much required viewing to understand properly (Silence in the Library + almost all of S5) that I can't suggest it to someone who already does not like it.

By the way, if you think DW/TW is badly written sci-fi at least you don't have a "science fiction channel" (SyFy) that pours out one terrible original movie after another every other month.

That is so funny because it is so true. I only wish he knew how funny and how true that statement actually is. Cracked me up. Thanks for that

What's wrong with a SciFi channel that cancels SciFi programming and pays for the WWE?

The recent revival is just too manic in my opinion. The show relies too much on special effects simply because they are available, and not enough on storyline. I think there needs to be contrast within the show, because then the scary elements are that much more effective. Watching the Pertwee era the other day, revealed the show had very little in common with its revival. The stories had greater depth, and the characters just seemed so much more real. I liked Dr Who when he seemed slightly mysterious, and perhaps a touch older. The juvenile Dr, pulling faces, and acting the clown, is something i have difficulty relating to. The new series does seem explicitely geared to children.

The current series works on a number of levels, far moreso than the Pertwee era, and you appear to be missing them and seeing only the most superficial aspects of the show. There's character depth, far more than in the Pertwee era (with the exception of 1970, Pertwee;'s time was not notable for any particular depth of character, and the one dimensional Jo is possibly the lest developed companion in the series' history, or would be if not for Dodo). There's realism-Amy and Rory are very real. And there's considerably more plot than you'd get in Carnival of Monsters or Death to the Daleks. It's certainly not a kids' show anymore.

Not that someone calling himself Jedekiah should have a problem with children's programmes anyway...

I know I'm way behind but I absolutely had to quote this. Best ever synopsis of the infamous stopwatch scene I've ever heard. Can I steal it.
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Depth?! Now, I've only watched a handful of classic Who episodes, but of the ones I have seen, there was basically no emotional depth...except possibly when Adric died.
Regardless of whether I've got my facts right, NewWho definitely does have depth. Most of the characters have been developed: Rory, Amy's long suffering boyfriend, now husband always being jealous of the Doctor, Amy being irreversibly changed as an 7 year old by the Doctor's appearance, her having to choose, and The Doctor coming to terms with the fact that he is seen as a mighty warrior and that there is an army against him. These developments are just a few or many.

Oh and I don't know why people go on about Doctor Who being scary and hiding behind the sofa. I have never been scared or frightened by an episode of Doctor Who in my life. The closest I came to being scared was in Blink.

You need to watch some more of the sixties stories. The Hartnell stuff in particular.
I think Who was a lot edgier in the old days. Some of the genuinely horrific scenes from the seventies in particular just wouldn't be allowed in the current series. It's been watered down for an audience far more conservative than the one watching 30 odd years ago.

Yeh, in fairness I've only seen episodes from the 1970s onwards. I must watch a Hartnell episode sometime. Can you recommend a good one to watch?

I'd recommend the box set of the first three stories, though the actual dynamic of the TARDIS crew and the character of Doctor as we now know him don't really sttle down until the third story. I'd also recommend The Aztecs (a nice character piece dealing with the realities of time travel), The Dalek Invasion of Earth, The War Machines (probably the prototype for modern Who) and Tomb of the Cybermen, and also The Mind Robber because it's just so imaginative. But frankly, I think most of the sixties stuf is brilliant. If you're young enough to only really be familiar with the pace of current TV drama it probably takes a bit of getting used to, as they tended to let stories unfold naturally over however many episodes they required, but I think the sixties stuff is in many ways the most consistent era of Who.

I don't know, why does anyone not like anything? Personally I couldn't care less about your personal preferences.

Well actually Eastenders is pretty good for the soap genre, but even so my bar is quite low for what I will watch so there's no excuse.


LOL I quite enjoy that sometimes. I liked "The Flood" which was about how a town was, predictably, flooded. The water looked like frothy beer and it chased them down a street.

I'm under no illusion that sci-fi is ever going to be Shakespeare, although some Star Trek and Battlestar can be quite good sometimes, regarding its message and character development.

I just get the impression sometimes that they are taking it a bit seriously, for what it is. I mean I think Barrowman thinks he is an actual actor.