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It is a Helen walkover and a producers nightmare
Zoltan Smith
14-07-2011
if she does not win it will have been a huge fix and that is one thing the BBC do not want in this climate. She has been so far ahead it has been embarrassing.


They have tried to make it a contest but it has been no good.


let them dare engineer a different winner. lol
DUNDEEBOY
14-07-2011
Originally Posted by Zoltan Smith:
“if she does not win it will have been a huge fix and that is one thing the BBC do not want in this climate. She has been so far ahead it has been embarrassing.


They have tried to make it a contest but it has been no good.


let them dare engineer a different winner. lol”

Its not a fix and she wont win
MARTYM8
14-07-2011
Its entirely Sir Alan's choice - in the end he is the one working with them.

Helen might make a good Apprentice and a great PA - but Tom and Susan are more creative in my view for a new business venture.

I think Susie might win - Lord Sugar likes a good back story.
Zoltan Smith
14-07-2011
Originally Posted by DUNDEEBOY:
“Its not a fix and she wont win”

Well she might not win if it about singing or looking like a man but if we are talking about how they have performed in the tasks and how they would work with sugar then its over already
Carlisle156
14-07-2011
Originally Posted by Zoltan Smith:
“Well she might not win if it about singing or looking like a man but if we are talking about how they have performed in the tasks and how they would work with sugar then its over already”

No, thats where you are wrong.

This years Apprentice, as made explicitly clear at the start, is about the business plans. If her business plan is not up to scratch then Lord Sugar will highlight the flaws & then editing comes in to play to make her look worse than normal.

She hasn't got a hope in hell of winning, and I doubt many people will be all that bothered by it.
meglosmurmurs
14-07-2011
Problem is, Lord Sugar's about as excited about her as a trip to the dentist.
Zoltan Smith
14-07-2011
Originally Posted by meglosmurmurs:
“Problem is, Lord Sugar's about as excited about her as a trip to the dentist.”

yes he has made his millions ignoring solid business winning strategy and just backing who makes him laugh...
Zoltan Smith
14-07-2011
Originally Posted by Carlisle156:
“No, thats where you are wrong.

This years Apprentice, as made explicitly clear at the start, is about the business plans. If her business plan is not up to scratch then Lord Sugar will highlight the flaws & then editing comes in to play to make her look worse than normal.

She hasn't got a hope in hell of winning, and I doubt many people will be all that bothered by it.”

If he appoints anyone else he will look like a tit

susan...? bwaaaaaaaaahahahahahaha
meglosmurmurs
14-07-2011
Originally Posted by Zoltan Smith:
“yes he has made his millions ignoring solid business winning strategy and just backing who makes him laugh...”

Helen's lack of her own business would dent his confidence in her, and shows a lack of confidence she has in her own abilities.
Carlisle156
14-07-2011
Originally Posted by Zoltan Smith:
“If he appoints anyone else he will look like a tit

susan...? bwaaaaaaaaahahahahahaha”

Susan has more business credentials than Helen could ever even hope to have.
Stansfield
14-07-2011
Originally Posted by MARTYM8:
“Its entirely Sir Alan's choice - in the end he is the one working with them.

Helen might make a good Apprentice and a great PA - but Tom and Susan are more creative in my view for a new business venture.

I think Susie might win - Lord Sugar likes a good back story.”

....and he has to like, there Business Idea.

Helen may have done well in all but one of the Tasks.....but if her Business is rubbish.........
gav016
14-07-2011
Originally Posted by Carlisle156:
“Susan has more business credentials than Helen could ever even hope to have.”

She started her own business, and that really is an achievement at such a young age.

But she needs to stop going on about it, because honestly that's the only thing right she's done in the past few weeks IMO. She's getting almost as bad as LS for mentioning it every ten seconds...
RussellIan
14-07-2011
He either does set some store by the interview feedback, before making his decision, or he doesn't. If it's the latter, then that just vindicates the series as being a 'middle-class' Big Brother.
Cherrybomber
14-07-2011
Originally Posted by meglosmurmurs:
“Helen's lack of her own business would dent his confidence in her, and shows a lack of confidence she has in her own abilities.”

And that in tasks, she shows no business knowledge, just talks at the customers. The business calculations are all from Toms pad.
trollface
14-07-2011
He's said it millions of times - he's looking for someone with a spark. I'm not sure Helen has displayed that. I think she's going to be another Liz Locke or Kate Walsh - good on paper and in the tasks but just not exciting enough for him to work with. I'd have thought that goes double now it's not a middle management role in his own company he's filling, but rather looking to invest money in a business the chosen candidate is going to run by themselves.

Looking at it considering what the prize actually is, then I think it has to be out of Susan or Tom. And Susan seems to have more drive and guts than Tom, as well as having a nice "self-made from nothing" story which can remind Sugar of himself. Regardless of the win/loss record, I think that the only person of the final 4 less likely to win than Helen is Jim.
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