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"Not Scotland" - What are STV Playing At? (Part 2)
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excel99
03-07-2015
Originally Posted by Mr Sirs:
“Monday (6th) there's no show for ITV's new series of Vet School”

Rather odd as guess who the production company is ... STV
http://www.itv.com/presscentre/ep1week28/vet-school

Unless it's just a re-edited version of the episodes STV produced a few years ago?
kezo
05-07-2015
Originally Posted by Mr Sirs:
“Tonight (Fri 3rd) RAINING IN MY HEART makes an appearance (ITV screened this in April), bizarrely this Saturday (4th) STV show no. 2 of POP GOLD late night, and Monday (6th) there's no show for ITV's new series of Vet School (STV still have BIG AMERICAN FOOD TRIP). So our "no show on STV" list looks like this:-

SUPERHOSPITAL (June 2015), WILD EXMOOR, BIG BOX LITTLE BOX, BRITAIN'S BUSIEST AIRPORT - HEATHROW (all May), WILD IRELAND (April), POP GOLD (parts 3-7 March), MORE TALES FROM NORTHUMBERLAND (Feb), BARGING ROUND BRITAIN (Feb), SECRETS FROM THE SKY (Nov 2014), HOTEL IN THE CLOUDS (1 off Nov & rptd. ITV3 Feb 2015).

Also not shown:- SCOTLAND'S MURDER MYSTERIES (part 8 March 2015).”

STV dropped Scotlands Murder Mysteries again .... well it must not be meeting its audience target then? (a sign that the Scottish public are bored of this genre?)

Vet School makes an appearance - I wonder if ITV has felt the need to put this on to show STV they will screen their shows? Be a laugh if ITV dropped it within a few weeks - STV need to admit that their own opt out shows and ideas are not working well than play bluff that each and every one is a success when its clearly not but again this is a channel that never apologises to its viewers when programming go "walkies" but of course will find a way to pass the buck and blame ITV on it all
kezo
05-07-2015
Originally Posted by excel99:
“Rather odd as guess who the production company is ... STV
http://www.itv.com/presscentre/ep1week28/vet-school

Unless it's just a re-edited version of the episodes STV produced a few years ago?”

The only "edit" will possibly be the accent .... rather than be a Scottish one it'll be an English one .... lets hope!
Mr Sirs
06-07-2015
Originally Posted by excel99:
“Rather odd as guess who the production company is ... STV
http://www.itv.com/presscentre/ep1week28/vet-school

Unless it's just a re-edited version of the episodes STV produced a few years ago?”

Looks like this has been shown already on STV - after BIG AMERICAN FOOD TRIP finishes on STV I wonder what they will show to make up the remaining weeks when Vet School is on? Available 30 min. shows from that "no show " list? - maybe Big Box Little Box or Wild Exmoor or Wild Ireland, or More Tales From Northumberland? Or perhaps an update from Sean on his charity cycle...

Originally Posted by kezo:
“STV dropped Scotlands Murder Mysteries again .... well it must not be meeting its audience target then? (a sign that the Scottish public are bored of this genre?)

Vet School makes an appearance - I wonder if ITV has felt the need to put this on to show STV they will screen their shows? Be a laugh if ITV dropped it within a few weeks - STV need to admit that their own opt out shows and ideas are not working well than play bluff that each and every one is a success when its clearly not but again this is a channel that never apologises to its viewers when programming go "walkies" but of course will find a way to pass the buck and blame ITV on it all”

ITV showing Vet School - apart from Catchphrase what else have STV contributed to the ITV network in the last few years? Gone are the heady days of Taggart etc... - Scotland's national broadcaster has been reduced to this!

(Scotland's Murder Mysteries - to be fair I am really enjoying this programme - it WILL be on this week and if it's on next Thursday then that will be the last one in the series).
kezo
06-07-2015
Originally Posted by Mr Sirs:
“Looks like this has been shown already on STV - after BIG AMERICAN FOOD TRIP finishes on STV I wonder what they will show to make up the remaining weeks when Vet School is on? Available 30 min. shows from that "no show " list? - maybe Big Box Little Box or Wild Exmoor or Wild Ireland, or More Tales From Northumberland? Or perhaps an update from Sean on his charity cycle...



ITV showing Vet School - apart from Catchphrase what else have STV contributed to the ITV network in the last few years? Gone are the heady days of Taggart etc... - Scotland's national broadcaster has been reduced to this!

(Scotland's Murder Mysteries - to be fair I am really enjoying this programme - it WILL be on this week and if it's on next Thursday then that will be the last one in the series).”


I think STV will give us a running commentary on Sean's cycle since its near the STV Appeal once more (where is the yawn button?)

Good question what has STV really contributed to the ITV network in last few years ... we can throw in that drama Fast Freddie - as for Murder Mysteries surely stop messing about with it ... but forgot STV is good at that

Found this .... (Feb 2015) http://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/news/s...083701.article reason for is "missing revenue target" -- so just like ITV its all about profits nothing more ... but apart from that ITV seem to still take more chances on making dramas etc whilst STV sit in the back seat?

for STV Locals
Woodward said he expected the Glaswegian station to break even this year with its sister starting to turn a profit in 2015. The broadcaster is also the only bidder for three further licences: Aberdeen, Ayr and Dundee.

“Our city broadcast services reached 1m people across two channels last month over a total catchment area of 3m,” said Woodward. “For a channel that just launched that’s a strong and satisfactory performance.” -- however it needs to be pointed out that some of the ads ain't local and most of its programming are repeats and basically cheap tat in between (again as far as I can see it really is all about making profits and nothing more) --- (i'll throw this in as well .... http://www.heraldscotland.com/busine...ases.119481188 )
Mr Sirs
07-07-2015
Originally Posted by kezo:
“I think STV will give us a running commentary on Sean's cycle since its near the STV Appeal once more (where is the yawn button?)

Good question what has STV really contributed to the ITV network in last few years ... we can throw in that drama Fast Freddie - as for Murder Mysteries surely stop messing about with it ... but forgot STV is good at that

Found this .... (Feb 2015) http://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/news/s...083701.article reason for is "missing revenue target" -- so just like ITV its all about profits nothing more ... but apart from that ITV seem to still take more chances on making dramas etc whilst STV sit in the back seat?

for STV Locals
Woodward said he expected the Glaswegian station to break even this year with its sister starting to turn a profit in 2015. The broadcaster is also the only bidder for three further licences: Aberdeen, Ayr and Dundee.

“Our city broadcast services reached 1m people across two channels last month over a total catchment area of 3m,” said Woodward. “For a channel that just launched that’s a strong and satisfactory performance.” -- however it needs to be pointed out that some of the ads ain't local and most of its programming are repeats and basically cheap tat in between (again as far as I can see it really is all about making profits and nothing more) --- (i'll throw this in as well .... http://www.heraldscotland.com/busine...ases.119481188 )”

Woodward has a complete and utter brass neck - to pass STV2 (oh sorry STV Glasgow/Edinburgh) off as local tv is an absolute joke - who is he trying to kid? The stations are nothing more than outlets for STV reruns and tat - virtually next to nothing (apart from a couple of cheap studio based shows) highlighting or homing in on the local communities/area etc with all their talent and opportunities... - a complete and utter disgrace!
Bandspread199
07-07-2015
Originally Posted by Mr Sirs:
“Woodward has a complete and utter brass neck - to pass STV2 (oh sorry STV Glasgow/Edinburgh) off as local tv is an absolute joke - who is he trying to kid? The stations are nothing more than outlets for STV reruns and tat - virtually next to nothing (apart from a couple of cheap studio based shows) highlighting or homing in on the local communities/area etc with all their talent and opportunities... - a complete and utter disgrace! ”

What were you expecting? Big production values? Original programming? Magazine, news and location stuff from a camcorder are about the best a local station can do. And many appreciate the repeats - it's not all for 'yoof' you know!
kezo
07-07-2015
Originally Posted by Mr Sirs:
“Woodward has a complete and utter brass neck - to pass STV2 (oh sorry STV Glasgow/Edinburgh) off as local tv is an absolute joke - who is he trying to kid? The stations are nothing more than outlets for STV reruns and tat - virtually next to nothing (apart from a couple of cheap studio based shows) highlighting or homing in on the local communities/area etc with all their talent and opportunities... - a complete and utter disgrace! ”

I had caught the "locals" recently in Glasgow and I was not impressed by it at all .... I was more surprised they advertised just about the same programming ie Taggart and the Chewen the fat guy ... I was left more baffled by the stations and as for the ads it appeared to me the Edinburgh "local" looked more for local ads (or some sort of sponsor) on there to STV Glasgow .... but STV Edinburgh picture quality has to be the worst I have seen - I just fail to understand for a channel so big they can't get the picture quality right or was that the whole point of it? The picture quality of Taggart was really bad I felt but yet you can see the picture quality difference when its repeated on Drama/True Entertainment
kezo
07-07-2015
Originally Posted by Bandspread199:
“What were you expecting? Big production values? Original programming? Magazine, news and location stuff from a camcorder are about the best a local station can do. And many appreciate the repeats - it's not all for 'yoof' you know!”

I don't think MrSirs was even implying that - I think for being local and it been ran by STV you think they would do alot better than what they are giving out. I have mentioned this before but when I had a local Channel 6 in Dundee, I admit the picture quality was atrocious and that they ran a relay using the Tay Bridge transmitter, the channel was more of a part time music/general entertainment channel (I vaguely remember what else was on it but everything was done to keep it "local" - the channel did not have say repeats of say Grampian TV output so I suspect they were trying something out) but from what I seen on STV "locals" I was not expecting a close simulcast of STV Glasgow apart from the "local" programming was different ie Chewen The Fat/The Riverside/Fountainbridge programme meanwhile the channels filled with repeated programming such as High Road/Taggart (I am more baffled how they qualify as local telly) but no worries when STV Aberdeen/Dundee launch I know what I am expecting and this setup is really a backdoor STV2 lets admit that - STV have managed to get away with simulcasting the Glasgow feed onto its Edinburgh channel and this will follow elsewhere (quelle surprise!) but as I think you mentioned STV is "glasgow centric" anyway but thats besides the point its like nothing else really exists outside the area anyway -- so STV are just as bad as the BBC with their "london centric" surprisingly
Mr Sirs
09-07-2015
Looking ahead to Sat. 11th-Fri. 17th:-

POP GOLD continues it's late night Saturday run on STV (3 of 8) while ITV has the film State Of Play. There's the usual WIN CASH LIVE through the night on STV and STV now follows ITV by showing JEREMY KYLE 5.05-6am during the week!

Racing From Knockhill on ITV (yes STV that is in Scotland ) but it's a no show on Scotland's screens Sunday/Monday overnight!

BIG AMERICAN FOOD TRIP concludes primetime Monday evening (Vet School on ITV) as does the excellent SCOTLAND'S MURDER MYSTERIES primetime Thursday (Superhospital's last in series on ITV).

Friday sees OFF THE BEATEN TRACK (1 of 6, rpt) & SLOW TRAIN THROUGH AFRICA (1 of 5, rpt) air late night on STV, ITV has Film: Gladiator.

Our "no show on STV" list now looks like this:-

SUPERHOSPITAL (June 2015), WILD EXMOOR, BIG BOX LITTLE BOX, BRITAIN'S BUSIEST AIRPORT - HEATHROW (all May), WILD IRELAND (April), POP GOLD (parts 4-7 March - although this is an 8 part series ITV (I believe) have yet to air the 8th part!), MORE TALES FROM NORTHUMBERLAND (Feb), BARGING ROUND BRITAIN (Feb), SECRETS FROM THE SKY (Nov 2014), HOTEL IN THE CLOUDS (1 off Nov & rptd. ITV3 Feb 2015).
kezo
09-07-2015
Originally Posted by Mr Sirs:
“Looking ahead to Sat. 11th-Fri. 17th:-

POP GOLD continues it's late night Saturday run on STV (3 of 8) while ITV has the film State Of Play. There's the usual WIN CASH LIVE through the night on STV and STV now follows ITV by showing JEREMY KYLE 5.05-6am during the week!

Racing From Knockhill on ITV (yes STV that is in Scotland ) but it's a no show on Scotland's screens Sunday/Monday overnight!

BIG AMERICAN FOOD TRIP concludes primetime Monday evening (Vet School on ITV) as does the excellent SCOTLAND'S MURDER MYSTERIES primetime Thursday (Superhospital's last in series on ITV).

Friday sees OFF THE BEATEN TRACK (1 of 6, rpt) & SLOW TRAIN THROUGH AFRICA (1 of 5, rpt) air late night on STV, ITV has Film: Gladiator.

Our "no show on STV" list now looks like this:-

SUPERHOSPITAL (June 2015), WILD EXMOOR, BIG BOX LITTLE BOX, BRITAIN'S BUSIEST AIRPORT - HEATHROW (all May), WILD IRELAND (April), POP GOLD (parts 4-7 March - although this is an 8 part series ITV (I believe) have yet to air the 8th part!), MORE TALES FROM NORTHUMBERLAND (Feb), BARGING ROUND BRITAIN (Feb), SECRETS FROM THE SKY (Nov 2014), HOTEL IN THE CLOUDS (1 off Nov & rptd. ITV3 Feb 2015).”

Surprising enough ITV seems to be highlighting an event at Knockhill once more whilst STV avoids it (pity why they can't show this at same time as ITV or I would guess STV would find covering "motorsports" odd in their schedule .... in saying that I hardly hear them speak of anything to do with Knockhill these days! Maybe people running Knockhill know how crap STV really is but know ITV will cover it)

Vet School is good I liked it on ITV - I think they changed the narrator for us on STV it was a woman(?) now its a man and if this was shown couple years ago they have updated it for ITV at end "STV Productions 2015"

Off the beaten track - is STV really going back to 2013 for this show? STV must be keeping their belts tight ain't they? Why not air one of the missed shows already aired on ITV (be a one off programme or basically missed a whole series), or let me guess wait for ITV to do the repeat soon in the afternoon or expect it to appear on ITV3?
Mr Sirs
09-07-2015
Originally Posted by kezo:
“Surprising enough ITV seems to be highlighting an event at Knockhill once more whilst STV avoids it (pity why they can't show this at same time as ITV or I would guess STV would find covering "motorsports" odd in their schedule .... in saying that I hardly hear them speak of anything to do with Knockhill these days! Maybe people running Knockhill know how crap STV really is but know ITV will cover it)

Vet School is good I liked it on ITV - I think they changed the narrator for us on STV it was a woman(?) now its a man and if this was shown couple years ago they have updated it for ITV at end "STV Productions 2015"

Off the beaten track - is STV really going back to 2013 for this show? STV must be keeping their belts tight ain't they? Why not air one of the missed shows already aired on ITV (be a one off programme or basically missed a whole series), or let me guess wait for ITV to do the repeat soon in the afternoon or expect it to appear on ITV3?”

Exactly! There's at least 4 x 30 min. shows that run for (at least) 6 parts from that "no show" list above.
kezo
09-07-2015
Originally Posted by Mr Sirs:
“Exactly! There's at least 4 x 30 min. shows that run for (at least) 6 parts from that "no show" list above.”

I'm pretty sure the controllers of STV must say this "we have the money but we can't be bothered to show it..........just yet" - the channel does speak of being cheap no matter the cost - I wonder if the STV Appeal set will be given an upgrade or will we still be looking into Lorraine Kelly's Santa Grotto

STV in my mind sure do have a "hidden" agenda with certain ITV shows and I understand that they themselves need to reach a quota if they stopped closing shop just after midnight most of these shows could have been stuck on and if viewers missed them they would see them on the STV Player but of course STV are missing a trick here of course - its quicker to close earlier and rake in cash from viewers in some shape of form ... first it was The Nightshift and now we have Win Cash Live in place, pretty sure the STV shareholders must be rolling in it sadly
Mr Sirs
09-07-2015
Originally Posted by kezo:
“I'm pretty sure the controllers of STV must say this "we have the money but we can't be bothered to show it..........just yet" - the channel does speak of being cheap no matter the cost - I wonder if the STV Appeal set will be given an upgrade or will we still be looking into Lorraine Kelly's Santa Grotto

STV in my mind sure do have a "hidden" agenda with certain ITV shows and I understand that they themselves need to reach a quota if they stopped closing shop just after midnight most of these shows could have been stuck on and if viewers missed them they would see them on the STV Player but of course STV are missing a trick here of course - its quicker to close earlier and rake in cash from viewers in some shape of form ... first it was The Nightshift and now we have Win Cash Live in place, pretty sure the STV shareholders must be rolling in it sadly”

What I don't understand is if we are to believe that STV paid ITV a lump sum under that new agreement (where all programmes could be accessed) then why are they not showing programmes they have already paid for? Why choose to show repeats and/or switch to a tacky moneymaking slot just after midnight when there are several programmes that could be screened? It's ridiculous.

As for that tacky slot - Win Cash Live, it's awful - have you watched it? The "games" - some of them are pathetic - one was on where the viewer had to select an outcome but the answer/outcome won't be revealed until October! The winning amounts are a joke too - a few pounds here and there... utter drivel. I don't know what's worse - this cr@p or the poo that was Nightshift.
kezo
10-07-2015
Originally Posted by Mr Sirs:
“What I don't understand is if we are to believe that STV paid ITV a lump sum under that new agreement (where all programmes could be accessed) then why are they not showing programmes they have already paid for? Why choose to show repeats and/or switch to a tacky moneymaking slot just after midnight when there are several programmes that could be screened? It's ridiculous.

As for that tacky slot - Win Cash Live, it's awful - have you watched it? The "games" - some of them are pathetic - one was on where the viewer had to select an outcome but the answer/outcome won't be revealed until October! The winning amounts are a joke too - a few pounds here and there... utter drivel. I don't know what's worse - this cr@p or the poo that was Nightshift. ”

I think it could be they have spent cheap on the ITV programming ie More Tales from Northumberland - it wouldn't surprise me if STV paid something cheap on ITV doing the repeats than them having to bother (ie repeat at weekend/weekday or ITV3) (more of a second run rights instead than first run), I do agree why they need to revert back to repeating programming from 2013 again I don't know - no need to worry expect Scottish Passport shorts to appear again soon

As for Win Cash Live - I did catch one regarding the Mascot (cross between the sun and Lisa Simpson) with something like "will they drop the mascot? (yes or no)" - to me I don't understand why you want to ask viewers these questions to get "cash" - we may as well just enter their 4K giveaway each week instead but of course at the rate of £1.53 per call does bring back the quiz shows of yesteryear that were suspended from ITV network due to it being an con but of course this is how they make money anyway is through calls/texts why they don't close or put on programming I will never understand
lundavra
12-07-2015
Originally Posted by kezo:
“I'm pretty sure the controllers of STV must say this "we have the money but we can't be bothered to show it..........just yet" - the channel does speak of being cheap no matter the cost - I wonder if the STV Appeal set will be given an upgrade or will we still be looking into Lorraine Kelly's Santa Grotto

STV in my mind sure do have a "hidden" agenda with certain ITV shows and I understand that they themselves need to reach a quota if they stopped closing shop just after midnight most of these shows could have been stuck on and if viewers missed them they would see them on the STV Player but of course STV are missing a trick here of course - its quicker to close earlier and rake in cash from viewers in some shape of form ... first it was The Nightshift and now we have Win Cash Live in place, pretty sure the STV shareholders must be rolling in it sadly”

I just noticed Win Cash Live on the EPG so spent about one second looking at it. Is it just STV or the whole of ITV, must be an all time low for them.
kezo
12-07-2015
Originally Posted by lundavra:
“I just noticed Win Cash Live on the EPG so spent about one second looking at it. Is it just STV or the whole of ITV, must be an all time low for them.”

As far as I have seen myself this is on STV only. ITV must run Jackpot247 and Channel 5 its Supercasino. Its an all time low if STV and other channels carrying this! Bad enough that you look at the MTV channels carrying "teleshopping" I am more surprised why OFCOM does not step in and give these channels a kick in but of course these networks are allowed to make income but meanwhile your hard working family are finding it hard to make ends meet (even people in unemployment) its a joke in my book
NMdum1
14-07-2015
Ridiculous isn't it? Having lived in Glasgow in the year 2005-2006, where I barely bothered with STV at all - and being from Dumfries and live just north of the burgh, I count myself lucky every day we get Border TV or 'English Telly' as my Dad calls it, i.e. full and uninhibited access to the whole ITV network even if the local news was a problem for a while (i.e. about Tyne and Wear until some of the production side went back to Carlisle). What's scary I can't think of more than two or three things maximum in all the years since I left the STV area that I've actually thought was vaguely interesting and therefore couldn't see it because its not as if they sell anything much down here is it? Pathetic! Makes you nostalgic for the days of Doctor Finlay, the afforementioned Taggart and Take the High Road doesn't it?

That this is supposed to be right at the heart of the bright new future for Scottish broadcasting in any prospective new Scottish state frightens me. Generally speaking, though not exclusively, total pap passed off as quality programming by a broadcaster that doesn't cover the whole of the country its supposed to represent, is rather insular, is over-reliant on both advertising or repackaged gambling (if you can't advertise tobacco on TV why is this even legal?) and can't even afford to buy-in much from the commercial sector in the UK - never-mind the best from the rest of the world, God help us all! And that's before you factor in what any potential constitutional changes might mean for provision to the roughly 265,000 of us in the South who are served from Newcastle and Carlisle - its not like STV even has the money to buy-out Dumfries and Galloway and Scottish Borders from the Border-Tyne Tees area or replace the main transmitters - for the South West in Colbeck in Cumbria. STV South - I can already imagine how crap its going to be now and anybody down here who just gets Freeview is going to be served.

It's not just the future of the state broadcaster - it's the whole terrestrial market we should be wringing our hands about - and I would the first thing that Scottish viewers ought to be concerned with is STV and whether there's going to be a viable market left that isn't dominated by Sky.
Glenn A
14-07-2015
STV is marginal. In England most people will still fondly recall the heady days of Taggart, an enduring police show with a fantastic cast, but the other side of the coin was Take The High Road, a deadly dull soap that was cancelled as its audience was dying out and which is repeated on a local station in Glasgow, as if anyone would want to watch it now.
Sadly STV's parochialism and meanness has left it as some kind of joke and I doubt ITV plc would go near them now.
Mr Sirs
15-07-2015
Originally Posted by NMdum1:
“Ridiculous isn't it? Having lived in Glasgow in the year 2005-2006, where I barely bothered with STV at all - and being from Dumfries and live just north of the burgh, I count myself lucky every day we get Border TV or 'English Telly' as my Dad calls it, i.e. full and uninhibited access to the whole ITV network even if the local news was a problem for a while (i.e. about Tyne and Wear until some of the production side went back to Carlisle). What's scary I can't think of more than two or three things maximum in all the years since I left the STV area that I've actually thought was vaguely interesting and therefore couldn't see it because its not as if they sell anything much down here is it? Pathetic! Makes you nostalgic for the days of Doctor Finlay, the afforementioned Taggart and Take the High Road doesn't it?

That this is supposed to be right at the heart of the bright new future for Scottish broadcasting in any prospective new Scottish state frightens me. Generally speaking, though not exclusively, total pap passed off as quality programming by a broadcaster that doesn't cover the whole of the country its supposed to represent, is rather insular, is over-reliant on both advertising or repackaged gambling (if you can't advertise tobacco on TV why is this even legal?) and can't even afford to buy-in much from the commercial sector in the UK - never-mind the best from the rest of the world, God help us all! And that's before you factor in what any potential constitutional changes might mean for provision to the roughly 265,000 of us in the South who are served from Newcastle and Carlisle - its not like STV even has the money to buy-out Dumfries and Galloway and Scottish Borders from the Border-Tyne Tees area or replace the main transmitters - for the South West in Colbeck in Cumbria. STV South - I can already imagine how crap its going to be now and anybody down here who just gets Freeview is going to be served.

It's not just the future of the state broadcaster - it's the whole terrestrial market we should be wringing our hands about - and I would the first thing that Scottish viewers ought to be concerned with is STV and whether there's going to be a viable market left that isn't dominated by Sky.”

Originally Posted by Glenn A:
“STV is marginal. In England most people will still fondly recall the heady days of Taggart, an enduring police show with a fantastic cast, but the other side of the coin was Take The High Road, a deadly dull soap that was cancelled as its audience was dying out and which is repeated on a local station in Glasgow, as if anyone would want to watch it now.
Sadly STV's parochialism and meanness has left it as some kind of joke and I doubt ITV plc would go near them now.”

To be fair on STV I have enjoyed the Scotland's Murder Mysteries series (a co production with BBC Alba?) and I see that Tutankhamun documentary on BBC4 was produced by them (and rated pretty well). Sadly though these (for me) are the exception rather than the rule - absolute guff otherwise, or should we be really counting Catchphrase and Vet School as some creative contribution to British television?! Again for me their news comes over as amateurish and shoddy compared to BBC Scotland but I know there are posters on DS (and probably many others) who would disagree. Their late night offering "Win Cash Live" as said is a disgrace - anyone associated with such dross should be taking a long hard look at themselves. Their continued "no shows" of perfectly acceptable ITV networked shows is pathetic...

Lots of room for improvement STV!
Mr Sirs
15-07-2015
Time then for another look ahead to STVs OPT OUTS, this post covering Sat. 18th-Fri. 24th:-

POP GOLD continues it's late night Saturday run on STV (4 of 8) while ITV has The Chase (rpt). Motor racing from Cheshire on ITV but it's a no show on Scotland's screens Sunday/Monday overnight! Oddly STV joins with ITV and screens VET SCHOOL (3 of 8) primetime Monday at 8pm! Onto Wednesday and STV rolls out a "no show" - namely MORE TALES FROM NORTHUMBERLAND (1 of 8) at 11.40pm! Friday late night sees OFF THE BEATEN TRACK continue (2 of 6, rpt) & SLOW TRAIN THROUGH AFRICA (2 of 5, rpt) while ITV has Film: Public Enemies (has this ever been shown on STV??!)

So our "no show on STV" list now looks like this:-

SUPERHOSPITAL (June 2015), WILD EXMOOR, BIG BOX LITTLE BOX, BRITAIN'S BUSIEST AIRPORT - HEATHROW (all May), WILD IRELAND (April), POP GOLD (parts 5-7 March - although this is an 8 part series ITV (I believe) have yet to air the 8th part!), MORE TALES FROM NORTHUMBERLAND (parts 2-8 Feb), BARGING ROUND BRITAIN (Feb), SECRETS FROM THE SKY (Nov 2014), HOTEL IN THE CLOUDS (1 off Nov & rptd. ITV3 Feb 2015).
Westy2
15-07-2015
Originally Posted by Mr Sirs:
“Time then for another look ahead to STVs OPT OUTS, this post covering Sat. 18th-Fri. 24th:-

POP GOLD continues it's late night Saturday run on STV (4 of 8) while ITV has The Chase (rpt). Motor racing from Cheshire on ITV but it's a no show on Scotland's screens Sunday/Monday overnight! Oddly STV joins with ITV and screens VET SCHOOL (3 of 8) primetime Monday at 8pm! Onto Wednesday and STV rolls out a "no show" - namely MORE TALES FROM NORTHUMBERLAND (1 of 8) at 11.40pm! Friday late night sees OFF THE BEATEN TRACK continue (2 of 6, rpt) & SLOW TRAIN THROUGH AFRICA (2 of 5, rpt) while ITV has Film: Public Enemies (has this ever been shown on STV??!)

So our "no show on STV" list now looks like this:-

SUPERHOSPITAL (June 2015), WILD EXMOOR, BIG BOX LITTLE BOX, BRITAIN'S BUSIEST AIRPORT - HEATHROW (all May), WILD IRELAND (April), POP GOLD (parts 5-7 March - although this is an 8 part series ITV (I believe) have yet to air the 8th part!), MORE TALES FROM NORTHUMBERLAND (parts 2-8 Feb), BARGING ROUND BRITAIN (Feb), SECRETS FROM THE SKY (Nov 2014), HOTEL IN THE CLOUDS (1 off Nov & rptd. ITV3 Feb 2015).”

Itv have now shown the last episode of Pop Gold, last Wednesday in fact.
Mr Sirs
16-07-2015
Originally Posted by Westy2:
“Itv have now shown the last episode of Pop Gold, last Wednesday in fact.”

Thanks Westy - I remember reading on another thread a while back that ITV had still to show it so thanks again for clarifying that.
kezo
16-07-2015
Originally Posted by Mr Sirs:
“Time then for another look ahead to STVs OPT OUTS, this post covering Sat. 18th-Fri. 24th:-

POP GOLD continues it's late night Saturday run on STV (4 of 8) while ITV has The Chase (rpt). Motor racing from Cheshire on ITV but it's a no show on Scotland's screens Sunday/Monday overnight! Oddly STV joins with ITV and screens VET SCHOOL (3 of 8) primetime Monday at 8pm! Onto Wednesday and STV rolls out a "no show" - namely MORE TALES FROM NORTHUMBERLAND (1 of 8) at 11.40pm! Friday late night sees OFF THE BEATEN TRACK continue (2 of 6, rpt) & SLOW TRAIN THROUGH AFRICA (2 of 5, rpt) while ITV has Film: Public Enemies (has this ever been shown on STV??!)

So our "no show on STV" list now looks like this:-

SUPERHOSPITAL (June 2015), WILD EXMOOR, BIG BOX LITTLE BOX, BRITAIN'S BUSIEST AIRPORT - HEATHROW (all May), WILD IRELAND (April), POP GOLD (parts 5-7 March - although this is an 8 part series ITV (I believe) have yet to air the 8th part!), MORE TALES FROM NORTHUMBERLAND (parts 2-8 Feb), BARGING ROUND BRITAIN (Feb), SECRETS FROM THE SKY (Nov 2014), HOTEL IN THE CLOUDS (1 off Nov & rptd. ITV3 Feb 2015).”


I got a question for STV - why the hell are they now "opting in" on their own show on the ITV network? This makes no sense at all and its more baffling - yet they can't be assed using this time to play catch up on the missed shows (as listed) ... STV is really ran by muppets who have no clue in what they are doing (scheduling wise) but we have known this for years so it ain't much new but again the STV viewers are played as fools for what we see and get meanwhile viewers will end up deserting them and go for ITV instead. It makes me wonder more what is STV's real interest in Scotland and is it all "political" than anything else?
Mr Sirs
22-07-2015
Another look ahead to STV OPT OUTS, this post covering Sat. 25th-Fri. 31st:-

POP GOLD continues it's late night Saturday run on STV (5 of 8) while ITV has Film: Twins. Again, no show for motor racing and motorcycling on Scotland's screens Sunday/Monday overnight . MORE TALES FROM NORTHUMBERLAND continues late night Wednesday (2 of 8) and Friday late night sees OFF THE BEATEN TRACK continue (3 of 6, rpt) & GOODWOOD MOTORSPORT (previously shown on ITV). SLOW TRAIN THROUGH AFRICA disappears ! ITV has Film: Crank.

Our "no show on STV" list now looks like this:-

SUPERHOSPITAL (June 2015), WILD EXMOOR, BIG BOX LITTLE BOX, BRITAIN'S BUSIEST AIRPORT - HEATHROW (all May), WILD IRELAND (April), POP GOLD (parts 6-8 March), MORE TALES FROM NORTHUMBERLAND (parts 3-8 Feb), BARGING ROUND BRITAIN (Feb), SECRETS FROM THE SKY (Nov 2014), HOTEL IN THE CLOUDS (1 off Nov & rptd. ITV3 Feb 2015).
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