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"Not Scotland" - What are STV Playing At? (Part 2)
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A Lorna Moon
04-02-2016
Originally Posted by seiko456:
“Some of the best opt out were big dramas being broadcast weeks after the network, Thingummyjig appear on Peak time replacing dramas and US series. Its replacement went out on Friday night https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zd78TsqDeik

A series of the Granada made Connection was never broadcast in 1988. Here is a gem Most Sunday morning Worships were never broadcast in STV instead being replace by Sesame Street. On one xmas day in 1983 it was replace by Glen Michael.

Emmerdale Farm used to go out at 17.10 for most of the 80s and 90s. STV dropped many series of Talking telephone numbers and Micheal Barrymore my kind of music. I also remember back in 2001. 8pm slot had gaelic shows on instead of Wish you were here or House of horror.”

Shindig was an embarrassment, my mother sent me to country dancing lessons because of this vile show, I'd heard about Thingimyjig, after viewing a clip all I can say is HELL NO pass the brain bleach. I also remember another untalented no mark named Terry something or other being forced on the poor unsuspecting viewers of Scottish.

A rather poor Barbara Dickson clone.

Just remembered her name Terri Neason, I googled Neasden and got a load of info about the London borough.😄
Mr Sirs
04-02-2016
Originally Posted by seiko456:
“I have to ask has Border Scotland screened any of those shows either? Or is STV waiting for ITV to slot them back in for Border scotland and take its feed?”

Good question but don't know the answer. That might be the reason though!

Originally Posted by A Lorna Moon:
“Shindig was an embarrassment, my mother sent me to country dancing lessons because of this vile show, I'd heard about Thingimyjig, after viewing a clip all I can say is HELL NO pass the brain bleach. I also remember another untalented no mark named Terry something or other being forced on the poor unsuspecting viewers of Scottish.

A rather poor Barbara Dickson clone.

Just remembered her name Terri Neason, I googled Neasden and got a load of info about the London borough.😄”

Thingummyjig was truly awful - all tartan and shortbread - on a primetime Friday night! Maybe that's what the Scottish viewing public wanted back then but times have moved on...

As for TN she's still going strong:- singing, touring and recording... http://www.terryneason.co.uk/
seiko456
04-02-2016
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIahJgrOfsQ Plenty of clips of her show on youtube
Mr Sirs
10-02-2016
STV OPT OUTS for Sat. 13th-Fri 19th Feb:-

No JONATHAN ROSS repeat on Monday night (STV has THE CHASE) whilst on Friday (late night) ITV has Film: Backdraft and STV screens FILM: 2 FAST 2 FURIOUS.

Onto the "no show on STV" list (original screening month on ITV as stated) and Sunday night on ITV3 sees a repeat screening of BARGING ROUND BRITAIN - shown last year on ITV and er... never shown on STV - despite featuring The Caledonian Canal in 1 episode! :-

BRITAIN: AS SEEN ON ITV (Aug 2015), SUPERHOSPITAL (June), WILD EXMOOR, BIG BOX LITTLE BOX, BRITAIN'S BUSIEST AIRPORT - HEATHROW (all May), WILD IRELAND (April & rptd. Aug), MORE TALES FROM NORTHUMBERLAND (parts 6-8, Feb), BARGING ROUND BRITAIN (Feb 2015 & rptd. ITV3 Feb 2016), SECRETS FROM THE SKY (Nov 2014), HOTEL IN THE CLOUDS (Nov & rptd. ITV3 Feb 2015).
kezo
10-02-2016
Originally Posted by Mr Sirs:
“STV OPT OUTS for Sat. 13th-Fri 19th Feb:-

No JONATHAN ROSS repeat on Monday night (STV has THE CHASE) whilst on Friday (late night) ITV has Film: Backdraft and STV screens FILM: 2 FAST 2 FURIOUS.

Onto the "no show on STV" list (original screening month on ITV as stated) and Sunday night on ITV3 sees a repeat screening of BARGING ROUND BRITAIN - shown last year on ITV and er... never shown on STV - despite featuring The Caledonian Canal in 1 episode! :-

BRITAIN: AS SEEN ON ITV (Aug 2015), SUPERHOSPITAL (June), WILD EXMOOR, BIG BOX LITTLE BOX, BRITAIN'S BUSIEST AIRPORT - HEATHROW (all May), WILD IRELAND (April & rptd. Aug), MORE TALES FROM NORTHUMBERLAND (parts 6-8, Feb), BARGING ROUND BRITAIN (Feb 2015 & rptd. ITV3 Feb 2016), SECRETS FROM THE SKY (Nov 2014), HOTEL IN THE CLOUDS (Nov & rptd. ITV3 Feb 2015).”

can we make a prediction since ITV is showing film Backdraft will we get it next week or will expect to see a repeated film 1978? Or an odd episode of Columbo/Murder She Wrote

Barging Around Britain - oh look ITV is airing it on ITV3 a year later meanwhile STV is well , but again give credit where its due at least its on ITV3 where the viewer who would watch STV is finally seeing it (freeview) STV is a joke.

Expect ITV/ITV3 to air the missed shows this year, I wouldn't give STV credit much these days

I noticed at the end of Loose Women they cut off the ITV News Headlines (before it starts), STV plonks on sponsorship Semichem - surely your plugging the brand throughout show surely you could drop it at the end of programme? I don't normally watch TV at that time but I did feel it is a bit disrespectful
stv viewer
10-02-2016
Looks like Big Box Little box is airing on Sunday 14th at 4.30pm
kezo
10-02-2016
Originally Posted by stv viewer:
“Looks like Big Box Little box is airing on Sunday 14th at 4.30pm”

More to the point the programme airs ONE YEAR later - what is the point? I have not seen it if I am honest but if some things that are featured (possibly pricing of items will be dated), Pity this ain't no April Fools joke but seems to be, i'll stick to ITV when I can and use their alternative stations, but this baffles me as to what the schedulers at STV think! I wonder though are we expecting a full run or expect shuffle/drop then run again?
seiko456
10-02-2016
And the reason for showing it? ITV are showing it. I do believe STV are not recording these shows and are just waiting for ITV to slot them back in.

I have to say with the legal opt out there is not enough room for everything to get shown.
A Lorna Moon
10-02-2016
Originally Posted by Mr Sirs:
“Good question but don't know the answer. That might be the reason though!



Thingummyjig was truly awful - all tartan and shortbread - on a primetime Friday night! Maybe that's what the Scottish viewing public wanted back then but times have moved on...

As for TN she's still going strong:- singing, touring and recording... http://www.terryneason.co.uk/”

I pity the poor unsuspecting ticket holders, she was dire with a capital D, a voice that could be compared to a foghorn on 200 B&H a day.😄
kezo
11-02-2016
Originally Posted by seiko456:
“And the reason for showing it? ITV are showing it. I do believe STV are not recording these shows and are just waiting for ITV to slot them back in.

I have to say with the legal opt out there is not enough room for everything to get shown.”

Yes there is a chance for all missing programmes to be shown - after Scotland Tonight, if STV drops the charade of "teleshopping" and "after midnight" most programming would be caught up (even if its on a later time) and be made available on their player.

STV are at times awkward with programming - ie why start a programme to then later abandon it or the other is start the programme stop it for 2 weeks then restart - if your watching ITV the programmes par 8pm run without much issue but as I do understand STV have to make up "regional" quotas they need to get their act together with programming that they have continuity or better yet make on screen announcements on when to see it next than the STV left guessing.

As for recording shows - how did it work when the repeat of The Jonathan Ross work? It was on the network at 1030 on a Monday Night and STV ran it half an hour behind - did STV already have the programme recorded from Saturday or did they record/transmit from 11pm onwards? You do also remember that STV feed is mostly ITV, I wouldn't be at all surprised at STV HQ being able to watch the opt out programmes from ITV whilst broadcasting theirs to Scotland


as for Big Box - So ITV are repeating it and STV are showing it first time round - sorry hate to say it again but I give ITV the credit then again on this one
seiko456
12-02-2016
STV did record it as its on the player.

Also STV love a good election or REF! http://news.stv.tv/politics/1342627-...tion-campaign/

These shows must fill up a good number of hours for its opt outs.
kezo
12-02-2016
Originally Posted by seiko456:
“STV did record it as its on the player.

Also STV love a good election or REF! http://news.stv.tv/politics/1342627-...tion-campaign/

These shows must fill up a good number of hours for its opt outs. ”

What programme you referring too? Jonathan Ross or another programme? If its Jonathan Ross you do realise STV has that up anyway so that is not new.


Did you also see STV is simulcasting the results on their City Channels? So if people are already watching it on ie BBC/SKY/ITV/STV - STV adds onto STV Edinburgh/Glasgow whats the point?

No one has ever answered my question regarding if these debates meet a regional quota - even if it does then why have all the missing ITV shows then? If STV seems to be meeting the quotas through news/Scotland Tonight then what they are doing is that not excessive?
seiko456
12-02-2016
Firstly it was in responce to your question,

Quote:
“As for recording shows - how did it work when the repeat of The Jonathan Ross work? It was on the network at 1030 on a Monday Night and STV ran it half an hour behind - did STV already have the programme recorded from Saturday or did they record/transmit from 11pm onwards?”

Of course the debates meet a regional quota, but as its been said umpteen times Ofcom states 2 hours on average of local shows must be broadcast between 7pm - 10pm each week. STV are doing Scotland Tonight of there own back.

Of course there could broadcast the missing ITV shows at 00.05 but would anyone watch them? STV have been dropping series for years and years and years even around 2000/01 ITV had something at 8pm again STV never broadcast those shows.

BBC Scotland was alot worse, I remember there used to have Its only tv but I like it at 00.40 many Friday nights
kezo
13-02-2016
Originally Posted by seiko456:
“Firstly it was in responce to your question,



Of course the debates meet a regional quota, but as its been said umpteen times Ofcom states 2 hours on average of local shows must be broadcast between 7pm - 10pm each week. STV are doing Scotland Tonight of there own back.

Of course there could broadcast the missing ITV shows at 00.05 but would anyone watch them? STV have been dropping series for years and years and years even around 2000/01 ITV had something at 8pm again STV never broadcast those shows.

BBC Scotland was alot worse, I remember there used to have Its only tv but I like it at 00.40 many Friday nights”

So programme was recorded from Saturday Night then they repeated it after Scotland Tonight - fine

Regional quota - yet they seem to go over what they need even if they are meeting it

Missing shows after midnight - well yes even if the "viewers" weren't there isn't that the whole point of having something like the STV player as to in their words "catch up on missing shows" - Commercial channels these days are becoming more of a joke using crap excuses if they in profit, why the need for Teleshopping/gambling on? or STV its now teleshopping and using archived clips, if they don't want to be 24/7 (per se) then closedown then its simple!

The programmes that have been missed are still recently where is 2000/01 coming from? They may have been dropping programmes in the past where there was probably not much issue and under that time we still had Grampian/Scottish as separate identies and which they still had opt outs but the programming was not missed. STV gets away more with missing ITV shows but what does the STV viewer actually get from its opt outs? Crap shows, budget on them probably was free - so if this company is so much in profit where is the money going back into programming for a) Scotland b) the ITV network?

Aaah but BBC Scotland to me seem to at least air the shows when possible but your probably will see the programme listed on BBC iPlayer even if its been listed (again STV is missing this point - air missing shows be midnight make them AVAILABLE to the STV public then DECIDE to continue or not?) As mentioned why did STV have repeats of The Chase on at 2305 some nights then "after midnight" or the other programming that were on previously on again? STV can do it - we all know STV can do it but they choose not too - whether it be a contractual thing with ITV or not its still crap output from STV and far as I see it I rarely tune into STV these days prefer watching BBC/C4/Pick as STV does nothing for me, if I miss something on ITV i'll use the hub not STV
Mr Sirs
13-02-2016
Originally Posted by seiko456:
“Firstly it was in responce to your question,



Of course the debates meet a regional quota, but as its been said umpteen times Ofcom states 2 hours on average of local shows must be broadcast between 7pm - 10pm each week. STV are doing Scotland Tonight of there own back.

Of course there could broadcast the missing ITV shows at 00.05 but would anyone watch them? STV have been dropping series for years and years and years even around 2000/01 ITV had something at 8pm again STV never broadcast those shows.

BBC Scotland was alot worse, I remember there used to have Its only tv but I like it at 00.40 many Friday nights”

There's been no local shows broadcast on STV between 7 & 10pm since the New Year. January and (to date) February has been very quiet on STV so where does this sit with the Ofcom requirement as you say?

Can understand where you are coming from re viewers after midnight but they could put these shows on slightly earlier after Scotland Tonight at 11.05pm. Also there are plenty of digital channels that show programmes after midnight, so why not our national broadcaster? And are these programmes not part of the whole package STV gets from ITV anyway so I can't understand why they would drop them. If STV were showing plenty of home grown stuff after Scotland Tonight then fair enough but ithis coming week they are showing The Chase and School Swap - 2 repeats on Monday and Tuesday after Scotland Tonight!
Glenn A
14-02-2016
Border, serving both England and Scotland before the transmitters split in 2001, used to get a fair amount of STV shows. We were the only region in England to have Take The High Road in peak time( only old women watched it in England and it was wiped out against Eastenders), Thingummyjig popped up occasionally, Scotsport every Sunday( like Grandstand on a low budget and the only sport seemed to be fitba), and we had to take Scottish football and SNP conferences. I do recall one night eagerly awaiting the premiere of Enter The Dragon, only to be told at the last minute it had been cancelled for a Scottish football friendly highlights, no doubt hosted by Jim Montfort.
seiko456
14-02-2016
Originally Posted by Mr Sirs:
“There's been no local shows broadcast on STV between 7 & 10pm since the New Year. January and (to date) February has been very quiet on STV so where does this sit with the Ofcom requirement as you say?”

Its on average, So STV must be banking on an EU ref this year aswell so there be lots of debates....

Originally Posted by Mr Sirs:
“Can understand where you are coming from re viewers after midnight but they could put these shows on slightly earlier after Scotland Tonight at 11.05pm. Also there are plenty of digital channels that show programmes after midnight, so why not our national broadcaster? And are these programmes not part of the whole package STV gets from ITV anyway so I can't understand why they would drop them. If STV were showing plenty of home grown stuff after Scotland Tonight then fair enough but ithis coming week they are showing The Chase and School Swap - 2 repeats on Monday and Tuesday after Scotland Tonight!”

You have a point, maybe STV just doesn'st like them,
Mr Sirs
15-02-2016
Originally Posted by seiko456:
“Its on average, So STV must be banking on an EU ref this year aswell so there be lots of debates....



You have a point, maybe STV just doesn'st like them, ”



Originally Posted by Glenn A:
“Border, serving both England and Scotland before the transmitters split in 2001, used to get a fair amount of STV shows. We were the only region in England to have Take The High Road in peak time( only old women watched it in England and it was wiped out against Eastenders), Thingummyjig popped up occasionally, Scotsport every Sunday( like Grandstand on a low budget and the only sport seemed to be fitba), and we had to take Scottish football and SNP conferences. I do recall one night eagerly awaiting the premiere of Enter The Dragon, only to be told at the last minute it had been cancelled for a Scottish football friendly highlights, no doubt hosted by Jim Montfort.”

That's so annoying! Happened to me in the past too...
kezo
15-02-2016
Originally Posted by seiko456:
“
You have a point, maybe STV just doesn'st like them, ”

If STV doesn't like the shows then why run certain shows to be later dropped without a trace? Lets also remember this lot will have access to Virgin and Sky so anything not shown they know they can see it
kezo
15-02-2016
Originally Posted by Mr Sirs:
“


That's so annoying! Happened to me in the past too...”

I seem to remember a drama I was looking forward to on STV to find out it was never shown and still has never been shown since the ITV fiasco
seiko456
15-02-2016
STV really should have place one those missing shows at 11.05, I have to agree with many putting the chase on at 11.05 is just poor, unless its ploy to get people to switch over to the Local channels for that evening late chat show with ewan.


Originally Posted by kezo:
“I seem to remember a drama I was looking forward to on STV to find out it was never shown and still has never been shown since the ITV fiasco”

Which one was it?
kezo
16-02-2016
Originally Posted by seiko456:
“STV really should have place one those missing shows at 11.05, I have to agree with many putting the chase on at 11.05 is just poor, unless its ploy to get people to switch over to the Local channels for that evening late chat show with ewan.




Which one was it?”

Yes it is poor to put The Chase on but its also stupid to even putting Teleshopping on after 12am - STV is hitting the skids by doing this big time, programming is there that can be used but again they choose not to. As for a ploy for the Glasgow/Edinburgh STV locals for the late show kind of beats the purpose really as people can use other channels and plus when the new locals launch I'll guess we will be seeing this show also? (predictable already and thats without a launch yet!) As for the drama that STV failed to even put on it was called "gunrush" unfortunately to this day STV has not put it on and neither has ITV ie ITV3
Mr Sirs
16-02-2016
Originally Posted by kezo:
“I seem to remember a drama I was looking forward to on STV to find out it was never shown and still has never been shown since the ITV fiasco”

I remember back in 2012 ITV showed a drama called LOVE LIFE, STV didn't - even though it starred Scots actor Gregor Fisher! Scotland's national broadcaster didn't even support it's own actors! Disgraceful... See here

Originally Posted by kezo:
“Yes it is poor to put The Chase on but its also stupid to even putting Teleshopping on after 12am - STV is hitting the skids by doing this big time, programming is there that can be used but again they choose not to. As for a ploy for the Glasgow/Edinburgh STV locals for the late show kind of beats the purpose really as people can use other channels and plus when the new locals launch I'll guess we will be seeing this show also? (predictable already and thats without a launch yet!) As for the drama that STV failed to even put on it was called "gunrush" unfortunately to this day STV has not put it on and neither has ITV ie ITV3”

More info on that here
kezo
16-02-2016
Originally Posted by Mr Sirs:
“I remember back in 2012 ITV showed a drama called LOVE LIFE, STV didn't - even though it starred Scots actor Gregor Fisher! Scotland's national broadcaster didn't even support it's own actors! Disgraceful... See here



More info on that here”

We could say STV has double standards and its happening yearly , if ITV has programming on Scotland, STV either misses the point of why ITV done it or STV thinks their opt outs all things "scottish" I wonder who STV asks on what they put on or produce?

As for the 2 dramas it proves a point STV does not care, I still assumed once they sorted issues these dramas would appear but still nothing but as said earlier give ITV its credit at least we still see the missing shows on ITV2-4

Reading back on previous posts you linked what drama has STV produced within last year?, no need to answer that but for a company that speaks highly itself of profits its laughable the programming output is on the cheap
seiko456
16-02-2016
Originally Posted by Mr Sirs:
“I remember back in 2012 ITV showed a drama called LOVE LIFE, STV didn't - even though it starred Scots actor Gregor Fisher! Scotland's national broadcaster didn't even support it's own actors! Disgraceful... See here

More info on that here”

OOHHH the ivory here:

Back in 2006 ITV refused to broadcast a drama with Scots actor Gregor Fisher, STV did broadcast it, ( ITV to this day has never done so) "Missing"
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