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"Not Scotland" - What are STV Playing At? (Part 2)
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inverness1967
16-02-2016
Wonder if this will ever see the light of day. STVs head of drame must be so bored in her office so this might keep her busy.

http://www.scotsman.com/lifestyle/cu...ries-1-4011333
kezo
16-02-2016
Originally Posted by inverness1967:
“Wonder if this will ever see the light of day. STVs head of drame must be so bored in her office so this might keep her busy.

http://www.scotsman.com/lifestyle/cu...ries-1-4011333”



May also be made by the creators of Rebus/Taggart, I also read it says its down to STV if it actually gets a green light - so I guess STV have got rights to the authors book but whether or not it makes it to air is another? I could see STV airing this to a degree as since when has STV made a drama since the other series of Taggart they ain't pretty much have they?

STV are clutching at straws I reckon - since well we seem to see more drama out of ITV to that of STV these days but please STV just don't rely on waiting to develop this one - get your fingers out and get more drama on!
inverness1967
16-02-2016
Originally Posted by kezo:
“May also be made by the creators of Rebus/Taggart, I also read it says its down to STV if it actually gets a green light - so I guess STV have got rights to the authors book but whether or not it makes it to air is another? I could see STV airing this to a degree as since when has STV made a drama since the other series of Taggart they ain't pretty much have they?

STV are clutching at straws I reckon - since well we seem to see more drama out of ITV to that of STV these days but please STV just don't rely on waiting to develop this one - get your fingers out and get more drama on!”

I guess they could make it for another channel e.g. Alibi. Wasn't the last series of Taggart made in conjunction with another channel. Cant remember if it was Alibi. I've said this before but cant believe they have a head of drama.
kezo
17-02-2016
Originally Posted by inverness1967:
“I guess they could make it for another channel e.g. Alibi. Wasn't the last series of Taggart made in conjunction with another channel. Cant remember if it was Alibi. I've said this before but cant believe they have a head of drama.”

Yes ... the most forgettable Taggart made with Alibi where STV were smart asses giving the scottish public TWICE within a few months (this was when Downton Abbey started), I am surprised STV has departments - they must spin in their chairs all day
Mr Sirs
17-02-2016
Originally Posted by inverness1967:
“Wonder if this will ever see the light of day. STVs head of drame must be so bored in her office so this might keep her busy.

http://www.scotsman.com/lifestyle/cu...ries-1-4011333”

"Head of Drama Sarah Brown" - - are they having a laugh???!! What on earth has she being doing for the last 5 years, or has she just come into the job recently in light of this announcement?! Maybe she should go and work up some drama on Catchphrase!
kezo
17-02-2016
Originally Posted by Mr Sirs:
“"Head of Drama Sarah Brown" - - are they having a laugh???!! What on earth has she being doing for the last 5 years, or has she just come into the job recently in light of this announcement?! Maybe she should go and work up some drama on Catchphrase!”

For last 5 years possibly sitting about and wondering if flogging Taggart will bring the audience back , pity that Rebus could have continued but seems more STV rather have flogged Taggart to death, yet since its been off there has not been much per Fast Freddie, compare dramas between ITV and STV, its already laughable - both companies make profits ITV takes risks meanwhile STV has none but makes cheap programmes and Catchphrase is that all we got from our scottish broadcaster?
inverness1967
17-02-2016
http://www.scotsman.com/business/com...rama-1-3402286

I guess she's only been in the job nearly two years so we may need to give her time ☺ On the plus side she does seem to have worked on good dramas.
kezo
17-02-2016
Originally Posted by inverness1967:
“http://www.scotsman.com/business/com...rama-1-3402286

I guess she's only been in the job nearly two years so we may need to give her time ☺ On the plus side she does seem to have worked on good dramas.”

Looking by the comments, speaks volumes about STV in general but ..... I do hope STV gives us more than ONE drama and that it is either shown first in Scotland or networked with ITV
kezo
19-02-2016
Originally Posted by seiko456:
“OOHHH the ivory here:

Back in 2006 ITV refused to broadcast a drama with Scots actor Gregor Fisher, STV did broadcast it, ( ITV to this day has never done so) "Missing"”


you mean "irony" not "ivory" but it seems you maybe correct as I googled it - supposedly in 2006 ITV aired a Sean Bean programme and STV went with their programme instead but the irony is when STV acted like fools airing Taggart twice and then rushing Downton Abbey remember that? They assumed viewers in Scotland would not be interested in Downton but it was clear it backfired and the whole relevant to Scotland programming and opt outs we got was nothing more than a smokescreen but lets remember the bosses at STV do have access to the ITV feed as well as more likely in their homes having Sky or Virgin lets not pretend on this one
kezo
19-02-2016
Originally Posted by kezo:
“Looking by the comments, speaks volumes about STV in general but ..... I do hope STV gives us more than ONE drama and that it is either shown first in Scotland or networked with ITV”

I hope so too but STV just look lazy in doing anything other than cheap opt outs and its Appeal thats all we get from this lot?
seiko456
20-02-2016
Originally Posted by kezo:
“They assumed viewers in Scotland would not be interested in Downton but it was clear it backfired and the whole relevant to Scotland programming and opt outs we got was nothing more than a smokescreen but lets remember the bosses at STV do have access to the ITV feed as well as more likely in their homes having Sky or Virgin lets not pretend on this one”

That wasn't the reason, STV made fools of themselves claiming that to be the case but it was all down to the contract dispute, which no one were real winners and should have NEVER gotten to the point it had reached.
kezo
20-02-2016
Originally Posted by seiko456:
“That wasn't the reason, STV made fools of themselves claiming that to be the case but it was all down to the contract dispute, which no one were real winners and should have NEVER gotten to the point it had reached. ”

and still STV at times look like fools, they don't learn at all
Mr Sirs
23-02-2016
A bit later than usual, but here's the STV OPT OUTS for this week Sat. 20th-Fri 26th Feb:-

No primetime changes but late night through the week STV doesn't screen (the repeats of) Jonathan Ross (Mon), The Cube (Tue), Richard Wilson On The Road (Wed) & Heroes and Villains (Thur). All these nights with SCOTLAND TONIGHT airing till 11pm STV switches to HOME SHOPPING just after midnight. It does throw in a repeat of DOUBLE DECKER DRIVING SCHOOL tonight, and on Friday screens FILM: THE FAST AND THE FURIOUS TOKYO DRIFT whilst ITV has Film: Live and Let Die.

The "no show on STV" list (original screening month on ITV as stated) is:-

BRITAIN: AS SEEN ON ITV (Aug 2015), SUPERHOSPITAL (June), WILD EXMOOR, BIG BOX LITTLE BOX, BRITAIN'S BUSIEST AIRPORT - HEATHROW (all May), WILD IRELAND (April & rptd. Aug), MORE TALES FROM NORTHUMBERLAND (parts 6-8, Feb), BARGING ROUND BRITAIN (Feb 2015 & rptd. ITV3 Feb 2016), SECRETS FROM THE SKY (Nov 2014), HOTEL IN THE CLOUDS (Nov & rptd. ITV3 Feb 2015).
kezo
23-02-2016
Originally Posted by Mr Sirs:
“A bit later than usual, but here's the STV OPT OUTS for this week Sat. 20th-Fri 26th Feb:-

No primetime changes but late night through the week STV doesn't screen (the repeats of) Jonathan Ross (Mon), The Cube (Tue), Richard Wilson On The Road (Wed) & Heroes and Villains (Thur). All these nights with SCOTLAND TONIGHT airing till 11pm STV switches to HOME SHOPPING just after midnight. It does throw in a repeat of DOUBLE DECKER DRIVING SCHOOL tonight, and on Friday screens FILM: THE FAST AND THE FURIOUS TOKYO DRIFT whilst ITV has Film: Live and Let Die.

The "no show on STV" list (original screening month on ITV as stated) is:-

BRITAIN: AS SEEN ON ITV (Aug 2015), SUPERHOSPITAL (June), WILD EXMOOR, BIG BOX LITTLE BOX, BRITAIN'S BUSIEST AIRPORT - HEATHROW (all May), WILD IRELAND (April & rptd. Aug), MORE TALES FROM NORTHUMBERLAND (parts 6-8, Feb), BARGING ROUND BRITAIN (Feb 2015 & rptd. ITV3 Feb 2016), SECRETS FROM THE SKY (Nov 2014), HOTEL IN THE CLOUDS (Nov & rptd. ITV3 Feb 2015).”

It surprises me teleshopping is on STV, as for film maybe +1 week?

Again why is STV repeating other shows already been on? I wrill say that slot ahould be used for missed shows but STV miss this as an advantage
stv viewer
27-02-2016
This is a bit off topic for this thread but why isnt STV making there own coverage for the Scotland 6 nation games.

They could have Eilidh Barbour (she did rugby highlights for STV) or another presenter presenting along with a pundit or two from a studio in Glasgow then have ITV's commentary team or there own commentary team.

They have done it for the football so I dont get why they dont do it for the Rugby
kezo
28-02-2016
Originally Posted by stv viewer:
“This is a bit off topic for this thread but why isnt STV making there own coverage for the Scotland 6 nation games.

They could have Eilidh Barbour (she did rugby highlights for STV) or another presenter presenting along with a pundit or two from a studio in Glasgow then have ITV's commentary team or there own commentary team.

They have done it for the football so I dont get why they dont do it for the Rugby”

If Rugby was important with this lot they would but they ain't bother - football comes first with STV in any case (saying that the irony is they back the Scotland team (supposedly) ) , or the reason they hardly do it was maybe because people do prefer ITV's commentary to STV? Whenever STV had their commentary on footy I had to switch over to ITV the twang becomes irritating!
kezo
28-02-2016
Is this what we get again for our opt out a programme on "Scotland's Scammers" pretty sure its the same scams if not UK wide, worldwide but since its STV they have to throw in Scotland (again), another el cheapo (Watchdog-Martin Lewis type show) for the STV public to endure! This from the same channel that throws money away at viewers to enter and carries Teleshopping oh the irony in it!
radyag
29-02-2016
Originally Posted by kezo:
“May also be made by the creators of Rebus/Taggart, I also read it says its down to STV if it actually gets a green light - so I guess STV have got rights to the authors book but whether or not it makes it to air is another? I could see STV airing this to a degree as since when has STV made a drama since the other series of Taggart they ain't pretty much have they?

STV are clutching at straws I reckon - since well we seem to see more drama out of ITV to that of STV these days but please STV just don't rely on waiting to develop this one - get your fingers out and get more drama on!”

Please dont knock STV, they are doing their best in one of the worlds toughest TV markets.

They own the rights to these books and so could make a bit of cash outa it. Its the type of drama that would suit ITV, corny detective drama for a sunday night, beautifully filmed and set in the olden days.
Mr Sirs
29-02-2016
Originally Posted by kezo:
“If Rugby was important with this lot they would but they ain't bother - football comes first with STV in any case (saying that the irony is they back the Scotland team (supposedly) ) , or the reason they hardly do it was maybe because people do prefer ITV's commentary to STV? Whenever STV had their commentary on footy I had to switch over to ITV the twang becomes irritating!”

It always has - remember the days of Scotsport? Every sport imaginable - so long as it began with the letter F and ended in L! Towards the end of it we did get Jim Delahunt giving a horse racing tip every week...

Mind you the BBC aren't much better with Sportscene - another misnomer!
Mr Sirs
29-02-2016
A bit later than usual, but here's the STV OPT OUTS for this week Sat. 27th Feb-Fri 4th March:-

Saturday late night (27th) saw STV viewers treated to FILM: LIVE AND LET DIE whilst Film: Invictus aired on the ITV network.

Onto tonight (Mon. 29th) and Further Tales From Northumberland starts a run on ITV at 8pm with STV showing (groan) the cheap SHOPPING SCOTLAND'S SCAMMERS (1 of 3) (yawn). Late night once again Jonathan Ross (repeat) is dropped by STV in favour of DOUBLE DECKER DRIVING SCHOOL. The trend continues as on Tuesday there's no show for Davina McCall: Life At The Extreme (DICK EMERY on STV), Wed: Richard Wilson on the Road (HOME SHOPPING on STV), Thur: Frustrated Britain & Murder She Wrote (THE CUBE and HOME SHOPPING on STV).

A new addition then to the "no show on STV" list (original screening month on ITV as stated):-

FURTHER TALES FROM NORTHUMBERLAND (Feb 2016), BRITAIN: AS SEEN ON ITV (Aug 2015), SUPERHOSPITAL (June), WILD EXMOOR, BIG BOX LITTLE BOX, BRITAIN'S BUSIEST AIRPORT - HEATHROW (all May), WILD IRELAND (April & rptd. Aug), MORE TALES FROM NORTHUMBERLAND (parts 6-8, Feb), BARGING ROUND BRITAIN (Feb 2015 & rptd. ITV3 Feb 2016), SECRETS FROM THE SKY (Nov 2014), HOTEL IN THE CLOUDS (Nov & rptd. ITV3 Feb 2015).
kezo
29-02-2016
Originally Posted by radyag:
“Please dont knock STV, they are doing their best in one of the worlds toughest TV markets.

They own the rights to these books and so could make a bit of cash outa it. Its the type of drama that would suit ITV, corny detective drama for a sunday night, beautifully filmed and set in the olden days.”

Why should I not knock STV? I see people knock BBC and SKY (mostly BBC) , yet for what they produce its cheap! Why should I care how tough they are having it? They don't care about Joe Public. I wouldn't be surprised if it did end up ITV making it than STV, but what does STV really make for us in Scotland - just cheap programming, they just get away with it with Catchphrase but other than that nothing? You seem to forget this lot are making profits not losses so the "knocking them" and them finding it "hard" these days is pretty well much out of the window

Even Sky seem to make more programming than STV does - but let me guess because Sky is a subscription/ad based and STV is mostly ad based? I have never in my lifetime seen STV sink as low to putting on archived clips/teleshopping its bad enough seeing MTV doing it these days! Sorry but I don't feel sorry for any TV networks they couldn't give a toss about us
Bandspread199
29-02-2016
FFS STV is Scotland's INDEPENDENT tv channel. They show THEIR choice of programmes before sucking up to ITV!
Last edited by Bandspread199 : 29-02-2016 at 22:27
kezo
29-02-2016
Originally Posted by Bandspread199:
“FFS St6v is Scotlands INDEPENDENT tv channel. They show THEIR choice of programmes before sucking up to ITV!”

Yeah quality programming that is hardly flying off the bookshelves is it? I can see Sky buying up their programmes just to save grace
kezo
29-02-2016
Originally Posted by Mr Sirs:
“It always has - remember the days of Scotsport? Every sport imaginable - so long as it began with the letter F and ended in L! Towards the end of it we did get Jim Delahunt giving a horse racing tip every week...

Mind you the BBC aren't much better with Sportscene - another misnomer! ”


Remember that programme STV Rugby, yes STV where did that go? You ran if for so long then its went out thr window or shall we just go ahead blame BBC (BBC Scotland) that BBC ALBA is covering some of the other Rugby leagues? But again lets knock the BBC for covering it but STV .... who cares? As long as its footy thats all it matters
kezo
29-02-2016
Originally Posted by Mr Sirs:
“A bit later than usual, but here's the STV OPT OUTS for this week Sat. 27th Feb-Fri 4th March:-

Saturday late night (27th) saw STV viewers treated to FILM: LIVE AND LET DIE whilst Film: Invictus aired on the ITV network.

Onto tonight (Mon. 29th) and Further Tales From Northumberland starts a run on ITV at 8pm with STV showing (groan) the cheap SHOPPING SCOTLAND'S SCAMMERS (1 of 3) (yawn). Late night once again Jonathan Ross (repeat) is dropped by STV in favour of DOUBLE DECKER DRIVING SCHOOL. The trend continues as on Tuesday there's no show for Davina McCall: Life At The Extreme (DICK EMERY on STV), Wed: Richard Wilson on the Road (HOME SHOPPING on STV), Thur: Frustrated Britain & Murder She Wrote (THE CUBE and HOME SHOPPING on STV).

A new addition then to the "no show on STV" list (original screening month on ITV as stated):-

FURTHER TALES FROM NORTHUMBERLAND (Feb 2016), BRITAIN: AS SEEN ON ITV (Aug 2015), SUPERHOSPITAL (June), WILD EXMOOR, BIG BOX LITTLE BOX, BRITAIN'S BUSIEST AIRPORT - HEATHROW (all May), WILD IRELAND (April & rptd. Aug), MORE TALES FROM NORTHUMBERLAND (parts 6-8, Feb), BARGING ROUND BRITAIN (Feb 2015 & rptd. ITV3 Feb 2016), SECRETS FROM THE SKY (Nov 2014), HOTEL IN THE CLOUDS (Nov & rptd. ITV3 Feb 2015).”

I'll just put up my white flag on STV .... just expect the opt outs to mostly appear on ITV3 as sure as fate STV will probably start "further tales" in a few weeks to be dropped again in favour of one of their own again or shall we expect the STV Appeal to start again (the joys!)
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