STV must be doing "swap" weekends with POMS and Cornwall now .... .... what a great idea you bunch of twits at STV!

Here are the STV OPT OUTs for today (Monday 10th). Back tomorrow with the rest of the week, the weekend, and into next:-

MONDAY 10TH - 8.00-8.30pm - ITV: Paul O'Grady For The Love Of Dogs. STV: PAUL O'GRADY FOR THE LOVE OF DOGS (1 of 7 - diff. episode).

10.30pm-3.00am -ITV: Local News/Hillsborough/Film: The Gauntlet/Jackpot 247. STV: 10.30pm SCOTLAND TONIGHT - 11.05pm HILLSBOROUGH - 12.00 COLUMBO (rpt) - 1.45am NIGHTSCREEN.

ITV kept Taggart on air for STV out of the goodness of their hearts when they could've cancelled it back in 1994 after Mark McManus died. And STV didn't show that support in return to ITV.

No wonder Sally Haynes and Laura Mackie dropped it in the end- if they're giving us no support, why should we give love to STV for a show with falling ratings? And it's axing proved neither could care about international following-The Bold and The Beautiful, take note.

But Elizabeth Partyka and Eric Coulter did the job for them- I'm surprised Partyka kept Coulter on when he got shot of Jardine and Fraser- and he didn't get the ratings up -with JM leaving, they went into decline, and CM being axed acclerated the decline further . Granted James wanted to leave, but that was akin to getting shot of Bea Smith. And Fraser-why?

Totally agree with your point AndyB but I will say this STV did do OK in my books when "Rebus" came out I personally felt even with the repeats on Alibi, ITV3 it looked like STV were moving onto something new but then look at what they done with that .... Its never seen the light of day again on that channel and yet during the ITV problem you would think maybe reshow it but did they? ... No. As far as I see STV for what it is now, its all about importing programming from networks and "rebranding" it theirs ie Incredible Stories (made by National Geographic - I have a feeling this programme is Banged Up Abroad or something along the lines...)

But then look at the farce with the schedules recently POMS/CORNWALL are going on/off the schedules! STV have got no clue what it is doing! Yes it maybe great news that STV are "affilated" with ITV now but still it treats its viewers like second class citizens and also forgets about its viewers in the North of Scotland (as usual) (this goes with ALL of their home made programming its a shame....)

I'm probably out on my own with this comment but funnily enough I never watched/liked Taggart when Mark Mcmanus was in it ! I only ever watched it latterly when James MacPherson was still in it, then of course Alex Norton - I preferred the 2 hour stand alone stories to the 1 hr. episodes too.

Okay, a bit behind with the STV OPT OUTs this week, so here's the rest of this week initially:-

TODAY - TUESDAY 11TH - 7.30-10.10pm - ITV: Football. STV: 7.30pm THE LAKES (rpt - 7 of 12) - 8.00 DESPERATELY SEEKING SUBO - 9.00 INCREDIBLE STORIES - 9.55 VET SCHOOL BITES (rpt).

10.40pm-5.30am - ITV: Local News/Football/Grimefighters/Jackpot 247/Golden Balls/Nightscreen. STV: 10.40pm SCOTLAND TONIGHT - 11.15pm FILM: YOU, ME & DUPREE - 1.10am IN PLAIN SIGHT (rpt) - 1.55 JEREMY KYLE (rpt) - 2.45 NIGHTSCREEN.


WEDNESDAY 12TH - 10.30pm-3.00am - ITV: Local News/Film: Assassins/Jackpot 247. STV: 10.30pm SCOTLAND TONIGHT - 11.05pm THE TALENT SHOW STORY (rpt) - 12.05am JEREMY KYLE (rpt) - 1.00 NIGHTSCREEN.


THURSDAY 13TH - 10.30pm-5.30am - ITV: Local News/Jonathan Ross/Around The House/Jackpot 247/Tonight/Nightscreen/Jeremy Kyle. STV: 10.30pm SCOTLAND TONIGHT - 11.05pm JONATHAN ROSS (rpt) - 12.05am THE NIGHTSHIFT.


FRIDAY 14TH - 8.00-8.30pm - ITV: Island Hospital. STV: COACHED OFF THE COUCH.

10.35pm-5.30am - ITV: Film: Die Another Day/Jackpot 247/Columbo/Nightscreen. STV: 10.35pm FILM: DANTE'S PEAK - 12.30am THE NIGHTSHIFT.

Oh boy "coached off the couch" ..... seems like STV are making programmes for people to get off their arses .... I wonder who came up with the title??

And I see Subo is on the schedule .... she won BGT when again? Is this the "alternative" programming STV now give us. I would rather choose the ITV1 option than STV

I remember reading in this thread or near end of other STV thread, STV were going to show "Collision" over 5 weeks .... it still hasn't appeared yet on the STV radar. I wonder with the AMOUNT of missing "one off" dramas and dramas that are "missing" (either appearing on ITV2/3/4) that STV will ever get round to showing them or whats the point? STV are still at least 2-3 years behind missing drama and are now showing the updated dramas so why are they not showing the backlog? They get it "cheap" and the programmes that have been put in place most of them time are "cheap" no wonder STV make a PROFIT from it all - plus they are only BENEFITING themselves not the viewer sadly.....:sleep:

To be honest I think there will be a raft of programmes (including those top dramas) that will never see the light of day onto STV. I think they will be well aware now that many can see them when they'll appear on ITV3, or will get out on DVD.

this is all this channel has become nothing more than a farce! .... Expect viewers to go elsewhere ie wait on the other ITV channels to show them or get the DVD's ... what exactly does STV benefit from doing this? I fail to see what there marketing strategy is .... and as said before the programmes "missed" and say people speak of them .... they will mostly say they caught them on ITV more than STV

I hate even saying this but I have noticed alot of people I speak to totally avoid STV ... and yet when in the past you would hear people say they caught the programme on.....

STV needs to buck its ideas up actually be serious in what is doing as far as I get the impression from it ... the channel is nothing more than a joke!

I have relatives in Edinburgh who have as default BBC/ITV London, i believe they have never viewed STV since 2003.

I drift in and out of STV when I can .... I just wouldnt mind if freeview gave you ITV1 as well as STV - as STV has became a joke to me but in a way I am lucky I got a PS3 on london postcode as default ... but its getting ridiculous .... STV have really done great work in turning OFF viewers from watching THEIR very OWN channel and people are getting sky/cable to catch missing programming to ITV1 ... that is not a good strategy thats the worst case scenario for any network....but then again STV always know whats best for the viewer .... I will wait for a flying pig before I believe anything that STV and their PR management bring out....

More STV OPT OUTs added:-




WEDNESDAY 12TH - 10.30pm-3.00am - ITV: Local News/Film: Assassins/Jackpot 247. STV: 10.30pm SCOTLAND TONIGHT - 11.05pm THE TALENT SHOW STORY (rpt) - 12.05am JEREMY KYLE (rpt) - 1.00 NIGHTSCREEN.


THURSDAY 13TH - 10.30pm-5.30am - ITV: Local News/Jonathan Ross/Around The House/Jackpot 247/Tonight/Nightscreen/Jeremy Kyle. STV: 10.30pm SCOTLAND TONIGHT - 11.05pm JONATHAN ROSS (rpt) - 12.05am THE NIGHTSHIFT.


FRIDAY 14TH - 8.00-8.30pm - ITV: Island Hospital. STV: COACHED OFF THE COUCH.

10.35pm-5.30am - ITV: Film: Die Another Day/Jackpot 247/Columbo/Nightscreen. STV: 10.35pm FILM: DANTE'S PEAK - 12.30am THE NIGHTSHIFT.


SATURDAY 15TH - 3.25-5.55pm - ITV: Film: Licence To Kill. STV: 3.25pm MIDSOMER MURDERS (rpt) - 5.20 POMS IN PARADISE (5 of 10).

11.10pm-5.30am - ITV: Film: Disclosure/The Store/In Plain Sight/Nightscreen. STV: 11.10pm NIGHTWATCH WITH STEVE SCOTT (rpt) - 12.15am THE NIGHTSHIFT.


SUNDAY 16TH - 9.30-10.25am - ITV: House Gift. STV: JEREMY KYLE (rpt).

11.25am-12.20pm - ITV: The Hungry Salors. STV: THE HUNGRY SAILORS (diff. episode - rpt).

10.45pm-5.30am - ITV: Piers Morgan's Life Stories/Rugby Union/The Store/Motorcycling/Motorsport/Nightscreen STV: 10.45pm STV RUGBY - 11.25pm GOLDEN BALLS (rpt) - 12.15am THE NIGHTSHIFT.


MONDAY 17TH - 8.00-8.30pm ITV: Paul O'Grady (3 of 7). STV: PAUL O'GRADY (2 of 7).

10.30pm-3.00am - ITV: Local News/Film: Space Cowboys/Jackpot 247. STV: 10.30pm SCOTLAND TONIGHT - 11.05pm THE TALENT SHOW STORY (rpt) - 12.00 COLUMBO (rpt) - 1.20am NIGHTSCREEN.


TUESDAY 18TH - 10.30pm-5.30am - ITV: Local News/Football/Grimefighters/Jackpot 247/Golden Balls/Nightscreen STV: 10.30pm SCOTLAND TONIGHT - 11.05pm FOOTBALL HIGHLIGHTS - 12.00 IN PLAIN SIGHT (rpt) - 12.45am VET SCHOOL BITES (rpt) - 1.00 NIGHTSCREEN.


Comment: POMS IN PARADISE appears again on STV, but Saturday late is a disaster - while the network enjoy a movie, Glasgow trots out an old episode of NIGHTWATCH, before the awful NIGHTSHIFT.

Sunday late isn't much better - a repeat of GOLDEN BALLS (at 11.25pm) and the NIGHTSHIFT rolls in again. :yawn:

It's catch up time at the beginning of the week with PAUL O'GRADY, but one again repeats are shown in favour of the network movie (Space Cowboys).

I knew it was happening .... STV really are having a laugh with POMS/Cornwall aren't they?

here is a question ... I wonder if NEXT WEEKEND STV will continue the "repeats" of Nightwatch/Golden Balls or will it be different yet again .... their scheduling is nothing more than a travesty - who the hell says YES to it are mad!

Has STV not looked on Challenge recently - they are already showing Golden Balls (pends on series) but STV have no idea with programming .... but they know when to run Nightshift :yawn:

When you look at the difference especially at weekend saying it this way ITV have this and this and this and that
and you go ... lets look at STV they have this ... and ends up with THAT?

Their scheduling is just plain daft - fair enough showing Golden Balls but at that time??? At least the main network show it through the night and as you say it's on Challenge too.

As an Englishman I'm perplexed by STV's scheduling. Presumably it's penny-pinching because they want to avoid paying their share of movie rights etc? Has any research been done on STV's audience share, and the effects of sat/cab viewers avoiding their opt-outs? Or the financial impact? I wouldn't be surprised if they're struggling! I did see this article from 2010 about the hoo-hah which was caused when Downton series 1 wasn't shown, and "tens of thousands" tuned into other Channel 3 regions to avoid it. The article suggests STV used to beat network ITV in share but was roughly level-pegging at the time.

STV coudl have at least found some better suited filler. Something like a Take Me Out or Life Stories repeat would be far better to suited for Saturday night, and a documentary repeat would fit in better on Sunday night. And would probably still be cheap

You got to laugh at the quote "rich schedule" .... there is nothing rich about their scheduling its been cheap since 2010! .. has there been improvement may we ask? ... Not really ... they make crap programming for the area which focuses more on the west coast/central belt area ... the north region has been wiped off face of earth (other than news - not at you personally) - STV were surviving on repeating taggart TWICE during that period and the Underbelly drama as well as cheap knock off films. STV always came out with the excuse "we were right" but its the most ironic thing of all if STV were REALLY taking a STANCE against these programmes why NOW show them? Answer - they got it all cheap so they are SAVING more. You just have to look at it scheduling recently with POMS/Cornwall - why are they going off every weekend? (ie one week Cornwall ON then next OFF ... POMS appears then OFF again ) Station has become shambolic and its pretty sad no wonder viewers are finding other ways of watching their favourite shows that are not on STV if not that they will wait for ITV to do it for them (ie ITV2/3/4). I use to watch Grampian alot in its heyday but now I can't watch its absolutely terrible! Channel speaks beginners now than it was previous which I would describe as at least professional beating BBC in my standards but sadly I prefer now going to BBC/Sky for my news than STV!

Pity also they could not stick on Movie Premieres on ie Inglorius Bastards (hope I got film title right) .... that was shown on ITV1 possibly a while ago .... but STV are stuck in the past and happily show OLDER films than updated .... speaks alot to me .... they are not "investing" as much as ITV are but are more than willing to run with what they got. Look at the AMOUNT of times Vet School Bites has been repeated or Beyond a joke is on .... seriously ... yet they CLOSE for nightshift just after midnight! ... they seem more enthuastic to close at the weekends as soon as ... so they can get the viewers to "interact" sorry take money off them with their texting!

Here are the STV OPT OUTs for the rest of this week(days):-




MONDAY 17TH - 8.00-8.30pm ITV: Paul O'Grady (3 of 7). STV: PAUL O'GRADY (2 of 7).

10.30pm-3.00am - ITV: Local News/Film: Space Cowboys/Jackpot 247. STV: 10.30pm SCOTLAND TONIGHT - 11.05pm THE TALENT SHOW STORY (rpt) - 12.00 COLUMBO (rpt) - 1.20am NIGHTSCREEN.



TUESDAY 18TH - 10.30pm-5.30am - ITV: Local News/Football/Grimefighters/Jackpot 247/Golden Balls/Nightscreen STV: 10.30pm SCOTLAND TONIGHT - 11.05pm FOOTBALL HIGHLIGHTS - 12.00 IN PLAIN SIGHT (rpt) - 12.45am VET SCHOOL BITES (rpt) - 1.00 NIGHTSCREEN.


WEDNESDAY 19TH - 10.30pm-2.45am - ITV: Local News/Film: Full Metal Jacket/Jackpot 247. STV: 10.30pm SCOTLAND TONIGHT - 11.05pm PIERS MORGAN'S LIFE STORIES (rpt) - 12.05am JEREMY KYLE (rpt) - 1.00 NIGHTSCREEN.


THURSDAY 20TH - 10.30pm-5.30am - ITV: Local News/Jonathan Ross/Poms In Paradise/Jackpot 247/Tonight/Nightscreen/Jeremy Kyle. STV: 10.30pm SCOTLAND TONIGHT - 11.05pm JONATHAN ROSS (rpt) - 12.05am THE NIGHTSHIFT.


FRIDAY 21ST - 8.00-8.30pm ITV: Island Hospital. STV: COACHED OFF THE COUCH.

10.35pm-5.30am - ITV: Film: Casino Royale/Jackpot 247/Columbo/Nightscreen. STV: 10.35pm FILM: CAPTIVITY - 12.15am THE NIGHTSHIFT.

Both schedules are :sleep: but STV is getting worse ... surprised Cornwall/POMS not made to STV schedule yet but ITV make an effort on POMS so 1 point to them

EDIT: just checked STV's weekend schedule sad to say NO POMS or CORWALL up either .... I feel like calling "scooby doo and the mystery machine" gang to find out whats happening with this mystery .... even though I aint a follower of these two programmes but this is beyond terrible for people following programmes and they "disappear" for no reason

Expect both programmes to be on during Christmas and Hogmanay season at this rate or be "completed" by then ... its just lazy scheduling

WHY on earth do people want CORNWALL? I sure people on here complained about other english programmes but no there stop one of them an everyone complains, make up your minds.

It nice to see people are talking about the cheapness, we all know why that happened because of the court case etc, which are still trying to resolve.

Well Cornwall is part of the UK ... heard of "stepping out" of Scotland?

Well ITV make far better programming to its sister STV have you not noticed or you blind to see it?

Regarding cheapness ... its been like that since 2010 ... has nowhere IMPROVED since then .... ITV actually INVEST in its PROGRAMMING what about STV? .... cheap in EVERYTHING! making them and "importing" them. Seiko for once actually LOOK at the BIGGER PICTURE than take what STV feed you for once!

Oh and by the way have you not noticed how BADLY STV schedule programmes such as "cornwall" and "POMS" your trying to tell me that if someone is following a programme it "disappears" how the hell are OAPS meant to follow a show that just "goes" and then "returns" when STV "feel like it" ... But I will say this STV are fairly doing a good job in viewers going elsewhere as I barely touch it but lucky for me I use my PS3 as backup

also court case IS RESOLVED guess you are far behind and need to CATCH UP? - but ok here we go STV is Affilated now with ITV .... and as far as I believe they will show programmes "when they want" .... so it comes across as more of an opportunity to avoid STV more

STV have been doing this for a while now.When the bill was on Thursday night a few years ago for some reason it was never on Scottish TV.

Couple of points - first up, personally I've never watched Cornwall, so can't comment on how good or bad it is - it looks an interesting programme and if my PVR wasn't so full I'd probably record it!

Secondly, whether it's good or bad is another issue (as we've debated the quality of other programmes too) - the main concern seems to be that if STV choose to OPT OUT with whatever programme (Cornwall, Poms or a.n. other) then at least they should be respectful to their viewers and show it consistently - i.e. same time, same day, consecutive weeks....

These 2 examples (Cornwall & Poms) can be added to the long line of programmes that have surfaced and disappeared on STV over the years (going back as far as I can remember) - I accept sometimes schedules can be interrupted because of special (usually sporting) events, but come on - it is just amateurish and doing their viewers a disservice.