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Old 21-03-2013, 18:46
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The problem with Scottish football is there are relatively few bankers that would get a big commercial audience.

Old Firm matches and Scotland games get a disproportionate audience to any other game that takes place, which most of Scotland wouldn't watch if it was taking place in their back garden.

Unfortunately for STV, Old Firm and Scotland games have a market outside the country. It may be one that's not mainstream and fairly small, but subscribers of sports channels will be interested in them, so it makes commercial sense for Sky to take them on.

The test is whether what STV would pay for these games would be met by advertising and sponsorship. Given the price has been pushed up over the years, and that the publicly-funded BBC would be in for them as well, I fear the answer is no.

I would bring back the sports discussion programme btw. The audience for the Old Firm is just so big that any sort of talk about them whatsoever gathers a huge audience. One upon a time we had an era where Clyde, Real and Radio Scotland all had football programmes at the same time, and Real have only moved away from that because it won't fit with future plans to change it into Heart. People are obsessed in this country, particularly in the west of Scotland, but unfortunately (for me, as I don't like the Old Firm) outwith as well.

Thing is, I think STV's playing a political game at the moment. The independence referendum date will be announced today, there's always a danger of ITV swooping into to buy them, and the future of the Border region is under discussion. They want to demonstrate to politicians and opinion formers that they still have a role to play. Hence the likes of localising STV News and producing Scotland Tonight will do more to win those people over than ratings-grabbing (but presumably expensive to produce) football shows.

I'll pick up on this part for discussion - but isn't STV playing a very dangerous game with politics?? I personally think STV IS the SNP propaganda machine as far as I see being honest and not as most people say BBC - you just got to look "behind" the STV led sponsored programming ie Their charity or a worst example "the greatest scot" they were all backed by the SNP government and regarding the referendum didn't STV get sponsored a whole week with "The Sun" and oh look coincidence or not BOTH announced it the same day makes you think doesn't it?

I ain't into much politics but I just look at more outside the box and do the "maths" thats what I make of it
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Old 22-03-2013, 00:31
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I ain't into much politics but I just look at more outside the box and do the "maths" thats what I make of it
I think you're putting 2 and 2 together and getting 54 myself.

If you speak to rabid Nationalists they'll tell you BBC Scotland is evil and biased against them, and if you speak to some unionists they'll claim STV favours the SNP. Truth is, I haven't seen any evidence of any of this.

I also know there is nothing more frustrating as a journalist than having these sort of unfounded allegations made against you, especially as you're generally not allowed to answer back, and if you made claims like this about anyone else you'd get sued.

STV's troubles in the past stemmed more from getting a bit close to Ofcom guidelines than anything they particularly did wrong. Did they actually do anything apart from, in sponsored programming, suggest Scotland's a nice country and people should get fit?
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Old 22-03-2013, 10:29
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I think you're putting 2 and 2 together and getting 54 myself.

If you speak to rabid Nationalists they'll tell you BBC Scotland is evil and biased against them, and if you speak to some unionists they'll claim STV favours the SNP. Truth is, I haven't seen any evidence of any of this.

I also know there is nothing more frustrating as a journalist than having these sort of unfounded allegations made against you, especially as you're generally not allowed to answer back, and if you made claims like this about anyone else you'd get sued.

STV's troubles in the past stemmed more from getting a bit close to Ofcom guidelines than anything they particularly did wrong. Did they actually do anything apart from, in sponsored programming, suggest Scotland's a nice country and people should get fit?
This part I can partly answer, I think STV got a "slapped" wrist from OFCOM regarding these "sponsored" programmes but yet I fail to follow why OFCOM never stepped in when the "referendum" announcement was made/sponsored by "The Sun" or as that "particular" day was "The Sun on Sunday" (also was announced on the STV News - hence why I say sponsorship for a week) - this is why I think there is more going on at that station than we are seeing (again just my own opinion)
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Old 26-03-2013, 16:01
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Heading up to Easter, here's a recap and list of new additions to forthcoming STV OPT OUTS:-


TUESDAY 26TH:-
EVENING - STV: WILD BRITAIN WITH RAY MEARS (4 of 10) , LEWIS (rpt), BEYOND EXPLANATION (rpt) (ITV: Live Football England v Montenegro).
LATE NIGHT - STV: SCOTLAND TONIGHT, UNFORGETTABLE SPIKE MILLIGAN (rpt), MONK (rpt), RIVER MONSTERS (rpt) (ITV: International Football Highlights/Piers Morgan's Life Stories).

WEDNESDAY 27TH:-
LATE NIGHT - STV: SCOTLAND TONIGHT, PIERS MORGAN'S LIFE STORIES (rpt), MONK (rpt) (ITV: Sports Life Stories/Jackpot 247/Columbo).

THURSDAY 28TH:-
LATE NIGHT - STV: SCOTLAND TONIGHT, THE NIGHTSHIFT (ITV: River Monsters/Jackpot 247/Tonight/Nightscreen/Jeremy Kyle).

GOOD FRIDAY 29TH:-
LATE NIGHT - STV: THE NIGHTSHIFT (ITV: Jackpot 247).

EASTER SATURDAY 30TH:-
LATE NIGHT - STV: FILM - MUSIC & LYRICS, THE NIGHTSHIFT (ITV: Film - 300/Jackpot 247/Ladette To Lady/Nightscreen).

EASTER SUNDAY 31ST:-
LATE NIGHT - STV: STV RUGBY, HIGHLANDS HIGHLIGHTS (rpt), THE NIGHTSHIFT (ITV: Rugby Union/The Store/Monk/Nightscreen/Jeremy Kyle).

EASTER MONDAY 1ST:-
AFTERNOON - STV: MURDER SHE WROTE (rpt), HOUSE GIFT (rpt), MIDSOMER MURDERS (rpt) (ITV: Live FA Cup Football Chelsea v Man Utd/All Star Family Fortunes/Cornwall With Caroline Quentin).
LATE NIGHT - STV: FILM - KNOCKED UP, COLUMBO (rpt), NIGHTSCREEN (ITV: FA Cup Highlights/The Cube/Monk/Jackpot 247/Jeremy Kyle).

TUESDAY 2ND:-
LATE NIGHT - STV: SCOTLAND TONIGHT, MONK (rpt), JEREMY KYLE (rpt) (ITV: Piers Morgan's Life Stories/Jackpot 247/Loose Women/Jeremy Kyle).

WEDNESDAY 3RD:-
LATE NIGHT - STV: SCOTLAND TONIGHT, PIERS MORGAN'S LIFE STORIES, MONK (rpt), JEREMY KYLE (rpt0, NIGHTSCREEN (ITV: Sports Life Stories/The Dales/Jackpot 247/British Touring Car Championship Highlights).

THURSDAY 4TH:-
LATE NIGHT - STV: SCOTLAND TONIGHT, THE NIGHTSHIFT (ITV: Jonathan Ross/Jackpot 247/River Monsters/Nightscreen/Jeremy Kyle).

FRIDAY 5TH:-
LATE NIGHT - SPORTS LIFE STORIES, JONATHAN ROSS (rpt), THE NIGHTSHIFT (ITV: Film - King Kong/Jackpot 247/Columbo/Nightscreen).


Comment:- STV doesn't show the big FA Cup game on Easter Monday , but it chooses to run with the network on Wednesday evening by showing the new series of Scott & Bailey. Will STV explain to their viewers what happened to the last series? Probably not... And Ray Mears disappears from the STV schedules next week - another explanation for the viewers? No chance.
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Old 26-03-2013, 22:35
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Heading up to Easter, here's a recap and list of new additions to forthcoming STV OPT OUTS:-


TUESDAY 26TH:-
EVENING - STV: WILD BRITAIN WITH RAY MEARS (4 of 10) , LEWIS (rpt), BEYOND EXPLANATION (rpt) (ITV: Live Football England v Montenegro).
LATE NIGHT - STV: SCOTLAND TONIGHT, UNFORGETTABLE SPIKE MILLIGAN (rpt), MONK (rpt), RIVER MONSTERS (rpt) (ITV: International Football Highlights/Piers Morgan's Life Stories).

WEDNESDAY 27TH:-
LATE NIGHT - STV: SCOTLAND TONIGHT, PIERS MORGAN'S LIFE STORIES (rpt), MONK (rpt) (ITV: Sports Life Stories/Jackpot 247/Columbo).

THURSDAY 28TH:-
LATE NIGHT - STV: SCOTLAND TONIGHT, THE NIGHTSHIFT (ITV: River Monsters/Jackpot 247/Tonight/Nightscreen/Jeremy Kyle).

GOOD FRIDAY 29TH:-
LATE NIGHT - STV: THE NIGHTSHIFT (ITV: Jackpot 247).

EASTER SATURDAY 30TH:-
LATE NIGHT - STV: FILM - MUSIC & LYRICS, THE NIGHTSHIFT (ITV: Film - 300/Jackpot 247/Ladette To Lady/Nightscreen).

EASTER SUNDAY 31ST:-
LATE NIGHT - STV: STV RUGBY, HIGHLANDS HIGHLIGHTS (rpt), THE NIGHTSHIFT (ITV: Rugby Union/The Store/Monk/Nightscreen/Jeremy Kyle).

EASTER MONDAY 1ST:-
AFTERNOON - STV: MURDER SHE WROTE (rpt), HOUSE GIFT (rpt), MIDSOMER MURDERS (rpt) (ITV: Live FA Cup Football Chelsea v Man Utd/All Star Family Fortunes/Cornwall With Caroline Quentin).
LATE NIGHT - STV: FILM - KNOCKED UP, COLUMBO (rpt), NIGHTSCREEN (ITV: FA Cup Highlights/The Cube/Monk/Jackpot 247/Jeremy Kyle).

TUESDAY 2ND:-
LATE NIGHT - STV: SCOTLAND TONIGHT, MONK (rpt), JEREMY KYLE (rpt) (ITV: Piers Morgan's Life Stories/Jackpot 247/Loose Women/Jeremy Kyle).

WEDNESDAY 3RD:-
LATE NIGHT - STV: SCOTLAND TONIGHT, PIERS MORGAN'S LIFE STORIES, MONK (rpt), JEREMY KYLE (rpt0, NIGHTSCREEN (ITV: Sports Life Stories/The Dales/Jackpot 247/British Touring Car Championship Highlights).

THURSDAY 4TH:-
LATE NIGHT - STV: SCOTLAND TONIGHT, THE NIGHTSHIFT (ITV: Jonathan Ross/Jackpot 247/River Monsters/Nightscreen/Jeremy Kyle).

FRIDAY 5TH:-
LATE NIGHT - SPORTS LIFE STORIES, JONATHAN ROSS (rpt), THE NIGHTSHIFT (ITV: Film - King Kong/Jackpot 247/Columbo/Nightscreen).


Comment:- STV doesn't show the big FA Cup game on Easter Monday , but it chooses to run with the network on Wednesday evening by showing the new series of Scott & Bailey. Will STV explain to their viewers what happened to the last series? Probably not... And Ray Mears disappears from the STV schedules next week - another explanation for the viewers? No chance.

The showing of NEW Scott and Bailey on STV is a joke ... but I would like to THANK ITV and its channel ITV3 for showing it BEFORE the new series starts (STV you bunch of *****!). Was watching Wild Britain and yes you are correct NO announcement was made on NEXT episode either .... John Michie is making a comeback once more "highland highlights" god STV as if we cant get enough of him on Corrie, is he the flavour of the month with you lot?? Can you lot not invest in showing all these "bites" etc, just chuck on "looney tunes" if need be would rather watch that

Also regarding Easter Monday surprised STV didn't join ITV for All Star Family Fortunes/Cornwall .... yet we have Murder She Wrote/House Gift and Midsomer Murders (wonder what happens if match over ran .... guess another "filler" would be stuck on )


Also I see the film 300 is shown on ITV - last seen on Channel 5 or was it 4? STV's radar nowhere to be seen is that because its "not relevant to scotland"
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Old 26-03-2013, 23:15
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Are there any statistics showing the extent of ITV plc viewing in the two STV regions?
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Old 27-03-2013, 00:08
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TUESDAY 26TH:-
LATE NIGHT - STV: SCOTLAND TONIGHT, UNFORGETTABLE SPIKE MILLIGAN (rpt), MONK (rpt), RIVER MONSTERS (rpt) (ITV: International Football Highlights
As on Friday, the International highlights show that STV dropped actually included action from the Scotland game.
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Old 27-03-2013, 00:15
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As on Friday, the International highlights show that STV dropped actually included action from the Scotland game.
So in other words ITV can cover the highlights of the Scotland game yet STV can't be bothered unless just to highlight it on the STV News - did STV know ITV were going to show the highlights?? - If STV did bet they have red faces (remember they can view what ITV are showing in their own studios on the Clyde - well the feed anyway)
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Old 27-03-2013, 00:30
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Are there any statistics showing the extent of ITV plc viewing in the two STV regions?
The STV region is really ONE radam .... the only thing I get that is different is news from the old Grampian area but the rest is fed from Glasgow, so no 2 STV regions here. (pretty much the same as ITV)
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Old 05-04-2013, 16:23
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The main STV OPT OUTS for the coming week are as follows:-



FRIDAY 5TH:-
LATE NIGHT - STV: SPORTS LIFE STORIES, JONATHAN ROSS (rpt), THE NIGHTSHIFT (ITV: Film - King Kong/Jackpot 247/Columbo/Nightscreen).

SATURDAY 6TH:-
LATE NIGHT - STV: FILM - WE OWN THE NIGHT, THE NIGHTSHIFT (ITV: Film - I Now Pronounce You Chuck & Larry/Jackpot 247/Ladette To Lady/Nightscreen).

SUNDAY 7TH:-
LATE NIGHT - STV: THE NIGHTSHIFT (ITV: The Store/Monk/Nightscreen/Jeremy Kyle).

MONDAY 8TH:-
LATE NIGHT - STV: SCOTLAND TONIGHT, COLUMBO (rpt), NIGHTSCREEN (ITV: Monk/Jackpot 247/Jeremy Kyle).

TUESDAY 9TH:-
LATE NIGHT - STV: SCOTLAND TONIGHT, MONK (rpt), JEREMY KYLE (rpt), NIGHTSCREEN (ITV: Jackpot 247/Loose Women).

WEDNESDAY 10TH:-
LATE NIGHT - STV: SCOTLAND TONIGHT, PIERS MORGAN'S LIFE STORIES (rpt), MONK (rpt), COLUMBO (rpt) (ITV: Sports Life Stories/The Dales/Jackpot 247/Columbo).

THURSDAY 11TH:-
LATE NIGHT - STV: SCOTLAND TONIGHT, RIVER MONSTERS (rpt), THE NIGHTSHIFT (ITV: Jonathan Ross/Jackpot 247/River Monsters/Nightscreen/Jeremy Kyle).

FRIDAY 12TH:-
LATE NIGHT - STV: SPORTS LIFE STORIES, JONATHAN ROSS (rpt), THE NIGHTSHIFT (ITV: Film - The Majestic/Jackpot 247/Columbo/Nightscreen).
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Old 05-04-2013, 19:08
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I see STV+1 news at 6pm (7pm on +1) is the Edinburgh news.
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Old 05-04-2013, 23:15
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The main STV OPT OUTS for the coming week are as follows:-



FRIDAY 5TH:-
LATE NIGHT - STV: SPORTS LIFE STORIES, JONATHAN ROSS (rpt), THE NIGHTSHIFT (ITV: Film - King Kong/Jackpot 247/Columbo/Nightscreen).

SATURDAY 6TH:-
LATE NIGHT - STV: FILM - WE OWN THE NIGHT, THE NIGHTSHIFT (ITV: Film - I Now Pronounce You Chuck & Larry/Jackpot 247/Ladette To Lady/Nightscreen).

SUNDAY 7TH:-
LATE NIGHT - STV: THE NIGHTSHIFT (ITV: The Store/Monk/Nightscreen/Jeremy Kyle).

MONDAY 8TH:-
LATE NIGHT - STV: SCOTLAND TONIGHT, COLUMBO (rpt), NIGHTSCREEN (ITV: Monk/Jackpot 247/Jeremy Kyle).

TUESDAY 9TH:-
LATE NIGHT - STV: SCOTLAND TONIGHT, MONK (rpt), JEREMY KYLE (rpt), NIGHTSCREEN (ITV: Jackpot 247/Loose Women).

WEDNESDAY 10TH:-
LATE NIGHT - STV: SCOTLAND TONIGHT, PIERS MORGAN'S LIFE STORIES (rpt), MONK (rpt), COLUMBO (rpt) (ITV: Sports Life Stories/The Dales/Jackpot 247/Columbo).

THURSDAY 11TH:-
LATE NIGHT - STV: SCOTLAND TONIGHT, RIVER MONSTERS (rpt), THE NIGHTSHIFT (ITV: Jonathan Ross/Jackpot 247/River Monsters/Nightscreen/Jeremy Kyle).

FRIDAY 12TH:-
LATE NIGHT - STV: SPORTS LIFE STORIES, JONATHAN ROSS (rpt), THE NIGHTSHIFT (ITV: Film - The Majestic/Jackpot 247/Columbo/Nightscreen).
Just reading this so film wise this week .... the SCORES are as follows ITV 3 - STV 1 .... that is all
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Old 05-04-2013, 23:49
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I see STV+1 news at 6pm (7pm on +1) is the Edinburgh news.
Yes it is as 20% of south Edinbugh dont get there TV from CraigKelly. They get it from Black Hill near Motherwell. Just like 25% of West Fife used Black Hill and not CraigKelly for there TV.

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Old 05-04-2013, 23:53
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Yes it is as 20% of south Edinbugh dont get there TV from CraigKelly. They get it from Black Hill near Motherwell. Just like 25% of West Fife used Black Hill and not CraigKelly for there TV.

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Fair enough. I never knew that, as I get Glasgow stv.
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Old 09-04-2013, 15:30
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An update to the list of STV OPT OUTS up to & including Friday 19th. Note: From Saturday (13th) ITV programmes are listed first with the STV OPT OUTS listed thereafter.




TUESDAY 9TH:-
LATE NIGHT - STV: SCOTLAND TONIGHT, MONK (rpt), JEREMY KYLE (rpt), NIGHTSCREEN (ITV: Jackpot 247/Loose Women).

WEDNESDAY 10TH:-
LATE NIGHT - STV: SCOTLAND TONIGHT, PIERS MORGAN'S LIFE STORIES (rpt), MONK (rpt), COLUMBO (rpt) (ITV: Sports Life Stories/The Dales/Jackpot 247/Columbo).

THURSDAY 11TH:-
LATE NIGHT - STV: SCOTLAND TONIGHT, RIVER MONSTERS (rpt), THE NIGHTSHIFT (ITV: Jonathan Ross/Jackpot 247/River Monsters/Nightscreen/Jeremy Kyle).

FRIDAY 12TH:-
LATE NIGHT - STV: SPORTS LIFE STORIES, JONATHAN ROSS (rpt), THE NIGHTSHIFT (ITV: Film - The Majestic/Jackpot 247/Columbo/Nightscreen).

SATURDAY 13TH:-
LATE NIGHT - ITV: FA Cup Football Highlights/Piers Morgan's Life Stories/Jackpot 247/Ladette To Lady/Nightscreen (STV: FILM - CITY SLICKERS, THE NIGHTSHIFT).

SUNDAY 14TH:-
AFTERNOON - ITV: Live FA Cup Football Chelsea v Man City (STV: VET SCHOOL BITES (rpt), POIROT (rpt), CORNWALL WITH CAROLINE QUENTIN (rpt) ).
LATE NIGHT - ITV: FA Cup Football Highlights/Rugby Union/The Store/Superbike Championship Highlights/Nightscreen (STV: STV RUGBY, BEYOND EXPLANATION (rpt), THE NIGHTSHIFT (rpt) ).

MONDAY 15TH:-
LATE NIGHT - ITV: Monk/Jackpot 247/Jeremy Kyle (STV: SCOTLAND TONIGHT, COLUMBO (rpt), NIGHTSCREEN).

TUESDAY 16TH:-
LATE NIGHT - ITV: In Plain Sight/Jackpot 247/Loose Women/Jeremy Kyle (STV: SCOTLAND TONIGHT, MONK (rpt), RIVER MONSTERS (rpt), NIGHTSCREEN).

WEDNESDAY 17TH:-
LATE NIGHT - ITV: Sports Life Stories/The Dales/Jackpot 247/Columbo/Jeremy Kyle (STV: SCOTLAND TONIGHT, PIERS MORGAN'S LIFE STORIES (rpt), COLUMBO (rpt), RIVER MONSTERS (rpt), NIGHTSCREEN).

THURSDAY 18TH:-
LATE NIGHT - ITV: Around The House/Jackpot 247/River Monsters/Nightscreen/Jeremy Kyle (STV: SCOTLAND TONIGHT, THE NIGHTSHIFT).

FRIDAY 19TH:-
LATE NIGHT - ITV: Film - Forgetting Sarah Marshall/Jackpot 247/Columbo/Nightscreen (STV: SPORTS LIFE STORIES, THE DALES (rpt), THE NIGHTSHIFT).


Comment: Once again no FA Cup football on STV, not even highlights! And repeats of Cornwall & The Dales make random appearances on Sunday afternoon & Friday night respectively - no sign of the "new" Ray Mears series though!
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Old 10-04-2013, 00:06
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An update to the list of STV OPT OUTS up to & including Friday 19th. Note: From Saturday (13th) ITV programmes are listed first with the STV OPT OUTS listed thereafter.




TUESDAY 9TH:-
LATE NIGHT - STV: SCOTLAND TONIGHT, MONK (rpt), JEREMY KYLE (rpt), NIGHTSCREEN (ITV: Jackpot 247/Loose Women).

WEDNESDAY 10TH:-
LATE NIGHT - STV: SCOTLAND TONIGHT, PIERS MORGAN'S LIFE STORIES (rpt), MONK (rpt), COLUMBO (rpt) (ITV: Sports Life Stories/The Dales/Jackpot 247/Columbo).

THURSDAY 11TH:-
LATE NIGHT - STV: SCOTLAND TONIGHT, RIVER MONSTERS (rpt), THE NIGHTSHIFT (ITV: Jonathan Ross/Jackpot 247/River Monsters/Nightscreen/Jeremy Kyle).

FRIDAY 12TH:-
LATE NIGHT - STV: SPORTS LIFE STORIES, JONATHAN ROSS (rpt), THE NIGHTSHIFT (ITV: Film - The Majestic/Jackpot 247/Columbo/Nightscreen).

SATURDAY 13TH:-
LATE NIGHT - ITV: FA Cup Football Highlights/Piers Morgan's Life Stories/Jackpot 247/Ladette To Lady/Nightscreen (STV: FILM - CITY SLICKERS, THE NIGHTSHIFT).

SUNDAY 14TH:-
AFTERNOON - ITV: Live FA Cup Football Chelsea v Man City (STV: VET SCHOOL BITES (rpt), POIROT (rpt), CORNWALL WITH CAROLINE QUENTIN (rpt) ).
LATE NIGHT - ITV: FA Cup Football Highlights/Rugby Union/The Store/Superbike Championship Highlights/Nightscreen (STV: STV RUGBY, BEYOND EXPLANATION (rpt), THE NIGHTSHIFT (rpt) ).

MONDAY 15TH:-
LATE NIGHT - ITV: Monk/Jackpot 247/Jeremy Kyle (STV: SCOTLAND TONIGHT, COLUMBO (rpt), NIGHTSCREEN).

TUESDAY 16TH:-
LATE NIGHT - ITV: In Plain Sight/Jackpot 247/Loose Women/Jeremy Kyle (STV: SCOTLAND TONIGHT, MONK (rpt), RIVER MONSTERS (rpt), NIGHTSCREEN).

WEDNESDAY 17TH:-
LATE NIGHT - ITV: Sports Life Stories/The Dales/Jackpot 247/Columbo/Jeremy Kyle (STV: SCOTLAND TONIGHT, PIERS MORGAN'S LIFE STORIES (rpt), COLUMBO (rpt), RIVER MONSTERS (rpt), NIGHTSCREEN).

THURSDAY 18TH:-
LATE NIGHT - ITV: Around The House/Jackpot 247/River Monsters/Nightscreen/Jeremy Kyle (STV: SCOTLAND TONIGHT, THE NIGHTSHIFT).

FRIDAY 19TH:-
LATE NIGHT - ITV: Film - Forgetting Sarah Marshall/Jackpot 247/Columbo/Nightscreen (STV: SPORTS LIFE STORIES, THE DALES (rpt), THE NIGHTSHIFT).


Comment: Once again no FA Cup football on STV, not even highlights! And repeats of Cornwall & The Dales make random appearances on Sunday afternoon & Friday night respectively - no sign of the "new" Ray Mears series though!
LOL repeat of The Dales/Cornwall you say MrSirs and its "random", this was hardly expected from this lot - mind you at least with the Ray Mears its not properly started and the classic STV would be "shafting" it about like they done with POMS/Cornwall
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Old 11-04-2013, 10:32
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LOL repeat of The Dales/Cornwall you say MrSirs and its "random", this was hardly expected from this lot - mind you at least with the Ray Mears its not properly started and the classic STV would be "shafting" it about like they done with POMS/Cornwall


I'm not sure how many Ray Mears STV have shown already - perhaps 3 or 4? Dotted around the schedule over the last 2/3 months.
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Old 11-04-2013, 10:57
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I'm not sure how many Ray Mears STV have shown already - perhaps 3 or 4? Dotted around the schedule over the last 2/3 months.
Knowing this lot MrSirs you will probably be better to try your luck on ITV4 than STV as I wouldn't be at all surprised if ITV has finished the series and STV will do the "can not be bothered to show it" approach or as it was formerly known as "not relevant to scotland"
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Old 11-04-2013, 12:20
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Knowing this lot MrSirs you will probably be better to try your luck on ITV4 than STV as I wouldn't be at all surprised if ITV has finished the series and STV will do the "can not be bothered to show it" approach or as it was formerly known as "not relevant to scotland"

ITV has finished the series I believe, STV has shown 3 or 4 randomly across the schedules - I wish (as per Cornwall & Poms) once they start something they would just run it at the same time every week consecutively until the series finishes.
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Old 11-04-2013, 12:24
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On another thread, Channel 5 have picked up the rights to Love/Hate, and will be showing the first 2 series later this year. Both series already screened on STV - no sign of them ever picking it up again, nor Underbelly for that matter. Maybe the suits at STV Towers reckoned they were "no longer relevant to Scotland" - or perhaps the viewing figures for the 2nd series told them something?
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Old 11-04-2013, 15:21
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On another thread, Channel 5 have picked up the rights to Love/Hate, and will be showing the first 2 series later this year. Both series already screened on STV - no sign of them ever picking it up again, nor Underbelly for that matter. Maybe the suits at STV Towers reckoned they were "no longer relevant to Scotland" - or perhaps the viewing figures for the 2nd series told them something?
Considering that itv Studios Global Entertainment (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underbelly_(series)) have the distribution rights for Love/Hate I am surprised it didnt get a showing on itv4, I can only assume they will make more selling it to channel 5
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Old 11-04-2013, 15:35
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Considering that itv Studios Global Entertainment (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underbelly_(series)) have the distribution rights for Love/Hate I am surprised it didnt get a showing on itv4, I can only assume they will make more selling it to channel 5


Channel 5 will be quite happy with it as their Jack Taylor Irish police drama did well recently.
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Old 11-04-2013, 16:26
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ITV has finished the series I believe, STV has shown 3 or 4 randomly across the schedules - I wish (as per Cornwall & Poms) once they start something they would just run it at the same time every week consecutively until the series finishes.
Oh is that right??? Oh well I still reckon expect it on ITV4 or it'll later appear on a Discovery Channel (this is to people who have SKY/Cable )

so AGAIN STV muck up another programme and is disappearing off the radar .... again I ask why does this channel let this happen and get away with it (yet as you mentioned ITV have ran it without issue but STV can't even complete a task)
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Old 11-04-2013, 16:28
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Channel 5 will be quite happy with it as their Jack Taylor Irish police drama did well recently.

Maybe we should say this .... Channel 5 home of Irish crime drama - More4 is home to Father Ted and BBC 1 is the home to Mrs Brown's Boys .... so what is home to STV??? lol
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Old 11-04-2013, 19:34
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Maybe we should say this .... Channel 5 home of Irish crime drama - More4 is home to Father Ted and BBC 1 is the home to Mrs Brown's Boys .... so what is home to STV??? lol



Home of greedy men in suits who show nothing but contempt for their viewers - I wonder if they are proud of destroying a once great Scottish institution?
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