I have to admit I caught Student Nurses on ITV it is actually a not bad programme, whether STV have delayed this I don't know.

I noted that "I didn't know what about Britain" was delayed til 11.35pm on STV during the week - if STV can do that for that show why can they not do that with shows missed at that slot? Makes more sense to me but I will hazard a guess it'll probably soon be dropped quietly off the face of the earth knowing this lot.

Student Nurses has done reasonably well in the ratings (up against Eastenders at that time) .

"I didn't know that about Britain" was fine - one thing in its favour re a complete/uninterrupted run on STV is that both it and Countrywise (which STV is showing at 8pm) are both 8 episodes long - so prob. less chance of it being chopped/moved around - I suspect both shows will run their course on STV & ITV from start to finish this time.

Well I hope it does as you know what STV are like if something of "theirs" pops up they will cause disruption to the flow! Again this could have worked for Ray Mears/Cornwall at time of original broadcast or is this STV realising this now??

Yes, the timing seems to be crucial with them - no doubt if there is something else (Burns night - we're ok that's past , St. Andrews day - mmm too far away, charity STV appeal ....) to interrupt it then that will happen!

I do agree with you re Ray Mears/Cornwall - they would have been better just delaying it and screening it later that night (as they are doing with "I Never Knew...") straight after Scotland Tonight - airing it on another night/day is just a recipe for disaster.

But why has it taken them this long to realise that??? Or is this just experimental for scheduling yet they close up shop after midnight for the dreary nightshift anyway

STV OPT OUTS for the week ahead:-

SAT. 8TH:-
ADE IN BRITAIN morning on STV, Murder She Wrote on ITV.
HOUSE GIFT, MURDER SHE WROTE & RIVER MONSTERS afternoon on STV, Live FA Cup Football on ITV.
FILM - THE INVENTION OF LYING, NIGHTSHIFT late night STV, Football Highlights/All You Can Eat/Gambling/In PLain Sight on ITV.

SUN. 9TH:-
INSIDE THE NATIONAL TRUST morning on STV, Crocodile Hunter Diaries on ITV.
CROCODILE HUNTER DIARIES, UNFOGETTABLE LEONARD ROSSITER, SCOTTISH PASSPORT, MIDSOMER MURDERS afternoon on STV, River Monsters/Live FA Cup Football on ITV.
MIGHTY MISSISSIPPI, CORFU, NIGHTSHIFT late night STV, Football HIghlights/Rugby Union/The Store/Jeremy Kyle USA/Nightscreen/Jeremy Kyle on ITV.

MON. 10TH:-
COUNTRYWISE primetime STV, I Never Knew That... on ITV.
SCOTLAND TONIGHT, I NEVER KNEW THAT..., NIGHTSHIFT, NIGHTSCREEN late night STV, Secret Mediterranean/Gambling/Jeremy Kyle USA/Nightscreen/Jeremy Kyle on ITV.

TUE. 11TH:-
SCOTLAND TONIGHT, NIGHTSHIFT, NIGHTSCREEN on STV, Crocodile Hunter Diaries/Gambling/Loose Women/Nightscreen/Jeremy Kyle on ITV.

WED. 12TH:-
SCOTLAND TONIGHT, NIGHTSHIFT, NIGHTSCREEN on STV, Jonathan Ross/Gambling/Columbo/Nightscreen/Jeremy Kyle on ITV.

THUR. 13TH:-
SCOTLAND TONIGHT, NIGHTSHIFT, NIGHTSCREEN on STV, The Cube/Gambling/Jeremy Kyle USA/Nightscreen/Jeremy Kyle on ITV.

FRI. 14TH:-
MOVIEJUICE primetime STV, Student Nurses on ITV.
NIGHTSHIFT, NIGHTSCREEN on STV, Gambling/Jeremy Kyle USA/Nightscreen on ITV.

Independent Scotland could be interesting for Scottish broadcasting.

In regards from STV perspective I can't see it

Another update on STV OPT OUTs:-


WED. 12TH:-
SCOTLAND TONIGHT, NIGHTSHIFT, NIGHTSCREEN on STV, Jonathan Ross/Gambling/Columbo/Nightscreen/Jeremy Kyle on ITV.

THUR. 13TH:-
SCOTLAND TONIGHT, NIGHTSHIFT, NIGHTSCREEN on STV, The Cube/Gambling/Jeremy Kyle USA/Nightscreen/Jeremy Kyle on ITV.

FRI. 14TH:-
MOVIEJUICE primetime STV, Student Nurses on ITV.
NIGHTSHIFT, NIGHTSCREEN on STV, Gambling/Jeremy Kyle USA/Nightscreen on ITV.

SAT. 15TH:-
NIGHTSHIFT on STV, Gambling/In Plain Sight on ITV.

SUN. 16TH:-
INSIDE THE NATIONAL TRUST morning on STV, River Monsters on ITV>
MIGHTY MISSISSIPPI, NIGHTSHIFT late night STV, Rugby Union/The Store/Jeremy Kyle USA/Nightscreen/Jeremy Kyle on ITV.

MON. 17TH:-
COUNTRYWISE primetime STV, I Never Knew That... on ITV.
SCOTLAND TONIGHT, I NEVER KNEW THAT..., NIGHTSHIFT, NIGHTSCREEN on STV, Secret Mediterranean/Gambling/Jeremy Kyle USA/Nightscreen/Jeremy Kyle on ITV.

TUE. 18TH:-
SCOTLAND TONIGHT, NIGHTSHIFT, NIGHTSCREEN on STV, Crocodile Hunter Diaries/Gambling/Loose Women/Nightscreen/Jeremy Kyle on ITV.

WED. 19TH:-
SCOTLAND TONIGHT, NIGHTSHIFT, NIGHTSCREEN on STV, Gambling/Columbo/Nightscreen/Jeremy Kyle on ITV.

THUR. 20TH:-
SCOTLAND TONIGHT, NIGHTSHIFT, NIGHTSCREEN on STV, Around The House/Gambling/Tonight/Nightscreen/Jeremy Kyle on ITV.

FRI. 21ST:-
TOO GOOD TO WASTE - featuring Stephen Purdon - new series (1 of 3) primetime on STV , Student Nurses on ITV.
NIGHTSHIFT late night STV, Gambling/Jeremy Kyle USA on ITV.

Comment:- "Well known faces save money by living more eco friendly. Tonight actor Stephen Purdon makes use of food he would otherwise have thrown away" - more pathetic primetime 8pm programming from STV What is it with this broadcaster? Why do they trot out this low budget grade z rubbish, with the same faces?

In the same week our true PSB gives us Sportscene results, Eorpa, Sportscene, River City, Scottish Conservative party live coverage, Scottish league cup final live, Newsnight Scotland, Reporting Scotland, Capercailiie band documentary, Referendum 1hr debate, documentary on Clyde artist, Scottish Questions, Politics Scotland...

Oh give us a break STV and your "eco" ways .... aaah thats why the channel makes its savings ... it tells us the general public what to do regarding waste whilst this lot probably do the same - surely STV in that slot maybe network a quiz show with ITV and no not Catchphrase?? I agree with you this z list crap STV provide is scraping barrels and further, I wonder if the controllers (who ran it before this is for both Grampian/Scottish - must look at STV today and wonder what the hell has it become?)

Oh but the argument you will get is something that BBC Scotland is funded and that STV is ad led, yet looking at STV's output of today its very cheaply made, why does STV not take risks anymore? Yet ITV I will give them a bit of credit they make cheap programming but at least make an effort in providing half decent dramas - STV on other hand run dated clips and "shorts" whilst hardly making any new programming

I still wouldn't mind knowing what is the reason behind "nightshift" being on every night now during the week? Can they not provide programming after midnight ... oh wait they are but its dated clips in place, there goes films during the week - so whats the point in STV we may as well catch films on other channels or for that matter look at its competitior ITV and its sister stations

Can I remind people, under OFCOM regulations, STV must provide around at 50 hours of peak hour programming, which means opt will continue no matter what.

Of course does that mean we have good programmes..... well..... its a very mix bag.

I do wish " Scottish Action" would come back, it would provide a very useful programme etc and would be off a better standards that what we have. It could become like Scotland Today.

Yes we know that already, but surely they can provide these opt out programming before midnight?? They seem to be doing it with one programme so far so why not the rest?? Or shall we just take it the midnight close for Nightshift is good enough to meet this quota also??

The STV alternatives are far from what I would tune into if I am honest - I have been watching Student Nurses and I Never Knew That About Britain (on ITV time this one in particular) and I rather watch them to the offer STV give us! Really STV telling us what to do with "leftover" food? This from a company thats tight fisted with its own money, yet I wonder how many of its staff is careful with its "leftovers"? Give us some half decent shows we can watch or network with ITV than its crap offerings. STV is really an embarassment for Scotland and it just shows how bad it is decaying - I would not be surprised if STV public at these times go looking elsewhere for programming like I do and go to ITV or another channel - yet back in the day I was more of an avid Grampian TV viewer (was it maybe programming back then was better - well in my mind and the opt outs were in but the scheduled programming would still be on schedule?? If we look at it now if ITV's shows are missed they are either shown later in year or basically thrown around or let me hazard the most obvious ITV will do the repeat run on at 4pm or its sister stations whilst STV do nothing about it? STV can't keep to a schedule with some shows I wonder why??)

Why not have a programme that actually uses its STV North staff than everything coming from the Clyde? Give me a programme with someone from my area (excluding "charity" gigs) as its beyond pathetic for a channel supposedly standing for Scotland and its default in Scotland is Clyde - there is MORE to Scotland than Glasgow!

Has Stv ever broadcast the newer Midsomer episodes or are they only broadcasting the John Nettles ones?

To answer that one as I gave up in the end ..... STV play "pick n mix" with Midsomer Murders, recently they have been sticking to scheduled ITV Midsomer Murders but if we have no footy and its on opt out we may see a John Nettle episode or if by chance it is one of the updated ones (possibly earlier if not been seen to STV public)

STV OPT OUTS for the week ahead:-


THUR. 20TH:-
SCOTLAND TONIGHT, NIGHTSHIFT, NIGHTSCREEN on STV, Around The House/Gambling/Tonight/Nightscreen/Jeremy Kyle on ITV.

FRI. 21ST:-
TOO GOOD TO WASTE - featuring Stephen Purdon - new series (1 of 3) primetime on STV , Student Nurses on ITV.
NIGHTSHIFT late night STV, Gambling/Jeremy Kyle USA on ITV.

SAT. 22ND:-
NIGHTSHIFT on STV, Gambling/In Plain Sight on ITV.

SUN. 23RD:-
SECRET MEDITERRANEAN, NIGHTSHIFT, NIGHTSCREEN on STV, Rugby Union/The Store/Jeremy Kyle USA/Nightscreen/Jeremy Kyle on ITV.

MON. 24TH:-
COUNTRYWISE primetime on STV, I Never Knew That... on ITV.
SCOTLAND TONIGHT, I NEVER KNEW THAT, NIGHTSHIFT, NIGHTSCREEN on STV, Secret Mediterranean/Gambling/Jeremy Kyle USA/Nightscreen/Jeremy Kyle on ITV.

TUE. 25TH:-
MOVIEJUICE primetime on STV, River Monsters on ITV.
SCOTLAND TONIGHT, FILM - THE MAJESTIC, NIGHTSHIFT, NIGHTSCREEN on STV, Crocodile Hunter Diaries/Gambling/Loose Women/Nightscreen/Jeremy Kyle on ITV.

WED. 26TH:-
SCOTLAND TONIGHT, NIGHTSHIFT, NIGHTSCREEN on STV, Gambling/Columbo/Nightscreen/Jeremy Kyle on ITV.

THUR. 27TH:-
SCOTLAND TONIGHT, NIGHTSHIFT, NIGHTSCREEN on STV, The Cube/Gambling/Tonight/Nightscreen/Jeremy Kyle on ITV.

FRI. 28TH:-
TOO GOOD TO WASTE - SAVING FUEL on STV primetime , Student Nurses on ITV.
FILM - CLIFFHANGER, NIGHTSHIFT on STV, Film - Scent Of A Woman/Gambling/Film - The Majestic on ITV.

Uh huh Saving Fuel next week , basic advice will be get a taxi, hop on a train/bus or if you live in Edinburgh the soon to be tram.....Cliffhanger?? Sly Stallone film how far back we going STV with your films??

Next week on "too good to waste" - Electric --- switch off STV when you need too

"In this edition kaye Adams and Fred MacAulay take on a fuel economy challenge" Absolutely pathetic isn't it?

LOL Kaye Adams (loose women) - Fred MacAulay (another recyled STV star .... wasn't he doing a charity run with John McKay couple years ago?? Oh yeah remember him ) so let me guess its about saving money on electric - will there be suggestions of using wall cavity insulation and things like that?? Come on gimme a break here and how will that exactly sell to other networks?? Of course the other UK networks won't be interested in this (if they wanted this shown in future) so in short another cheap filler since bosses at STV have no real idea on making half decent shows for Scotland and to the rest of UK - they deserve a gold medal for this!

Scent of a Woman was 1992 and Cliffhanger 1993 , i can see them running D.W Griffiths Birth of a Nation at this rate.

Its a load of Lillian Gish.

lol


next week Braveheart followed by Dragonheart

A few things:
1. We do indeed pay the BBC quite a bit of cash a year to provide this programming. The BBC does not exist to make a profit, STV does. Despite this it provides a nightly political programme of such quality that it has forced the BBC to ditch Newsnight Scotland and create an entirely new show. I accept a lot of the Scottish programming isn't great, but they're not going to make much money out of those anyway, so why throw the cash in? I think there's a bit of rose-tinted spectacles going on about these glorious local programmes from years back anyway - the likes of Scottish Action and Top Club looked dated then, never mind now.
2. ITV has a potential audience of above 50 million. STV doesn't even have the whole of Scotland. So there's a bit more money coming in. Beyond that, ITV controls the network and can get whatever it wants on there. STV has to take a huge risk to make a programme that ITV may not be interested in anyway (see Taggart), hence why it has started producing cheaper programmes for other channels instead.
3. I don't understand why The Nightshift winds people up so much. There is at least an element of programming there, as opposed to the constant run of Jackpot 24/7 and Teleshopping provided by ITV. As documented, there is no money to be made from advertising at that time of night so it makes no sense to put a big effort in there.

itv has a commissioning process and some of itv's most popular shows are not produced by itv studios, all STV needs are good ideas and a little bit of guts. Taggart near the end was commissioned by itv, and at the end co-funded with UKtv, when itv said it would not commission any more it was because it it was time for it to end.

i'll answer back - #3 its basic lazy scheduling why not show missed shows in that time - care to look at likes of Pick/Challenge to name a couple run shows during the night, they were able to before "teleshopping" appeared heard of a testcard?? why not bring that back and close but still STV have ramped it up to seven nights a week of hell with this show (how surprising)

#2 - sorry I fail there what do you mean not the "whole of Scotland" ? - STV owns Grampian TV if you care to remember most of its show do come from ITV in England but most if its own homegrown shows are coming from the Clyde - what input does the old Grampian give to STV other than news?? --- lets have a think there?? zilch zero nada - STV are like the SFA if you in Glasgow/Edinburgh your fine anything outwith your f..ked!

#1 as for making programmes - they make a profit (supposedly) but the money is more thrown at its shareholders than the viewers what does that really say?? Quantity over quality really (this goes for all networks) but STV is the worst - nothing but cheap telly telling its viewers what they think they should do, basically double standards there is it not??

As I have said before. I think STV could become more like TV3 in Ireland ifScotland becomes Independent.

Darren

Surely The Nightshift is the reverse of lazy scheduling? You may not like it but it involves hiring someone to do the voiceover overnight, they need to pick clips for it, someone had to arrange the text mechanics. It would be lazier to just throw a few repeats on. Would you genuinely prefer a test card to actual programming, no matter how limited?

STV does not cover the south of Scotland. That's owned by ITV Border.

I don't get your double standards point. STV is a business, it exists to make money for its shareholders. At the same time though, if the viewers didn't like it then they wouldn't watch it, viewing figures would go down, advertisers wouldn't be interested and they'd be in trouble.