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That awful debate is for the young people, and be STV has a free slots since its during the FA cup. unless you wanted STV to dropped a network programme?
Showing a political debate programme on a Saturday teatime is just pathetic. This should have been shown during the week at say 10.30pm - a Scotland Tonight special, Saturday teatime should be a movie, or comedy, quiz or whatever - not a political programme, no matter the age group it's aimed at - it's the wrong night and the wrong time - IMO of course!
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There does seem to be a lot of grumbling about STV and from what I've seen on here, a lot of its programmes are dull and parochial and they'll even interrupt a popular ITV show with something like Scottish Passport. It sort of reminds me of Border in the eighties and nineties, I was awaiting the network premiere of Enter The Dragon and they cancelled it for some mindnumbing highlights of a 0-0 draw in Scotland that no one in England was interested in.
Also I wouldn't put it past STV to show repeats of Take The High Rd late at night as they must have hundreds of episodes of this mindnumbing geriatric fodder in the vaults. They are complete and utterly CLUELESS and IGNORANT of their viewers:- Clueless - as above, a political prog. on Saturday teatime? Or how about, as you say, interrupting perfectly acceptable ITV networked shows with their own cheap pap, or maybe moving progs. all over the schedule - River Monsters, Cornwall, Ray Mears etc.. etc... Ignorant - because there is never any explanation to viewers if a programme is stopping (Countrywise) and if it is restarting or where it is going in the schedule - that is sheer and utter ignorance of viewers (the same viewers they will happily take their text money from via Nightshift). Honestly, they are pathetic.
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They are complete and utterly CLUELESS and IGNORANT of their viewers:-
Clueless - as above, a political prog. on Saturday teatime? Or how about, as you say, interrupting perfectly acceptable ITV networked shows with their own cheap pap, or maybe moving progs. all over the schedule - River Monsters, Cornwall, Ray Mears etc.. etc... Ignorant - because there is never any explanation to viewers if a programme is stopping (Countrywise) and if it is restarting or where it is going in the schedule - that is sheer and utter ignorance of viewers (the same viewers they will happily take their text money from via Nightshift). Honestly, they are pathetic. ![]() While Taggart and Rebus were two bright spots in STV's history, the rest of their output has been largely parochial, dull and cheap. Take The High Road was a typical STV offering, slow, conservative, cheap and aimed at the elderly, indeed they only cancelled this bore when they found out the audience was dying out and not being replaced. |
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There does seem to be a lot of grumbling about STV and from what I've seen on here, a lot of its programmes are dull and parochial and they'll even interrupt a popular ITV show with something like Scottish Passport. It sort of reminds me of Border in the eighties and nineties, I was awaiting the network premiere of Enter The Dragon and they cancelled it for some mindnumbing highlights of a 0-0 draw in Scotland that no one in England was interested in.
Also I wouldn't put it past STV to show repeats of Take The High Rd late at night as they must have hundreds of episodes of this mindnumbing geriatric fodder in the vaults. I agree political debates would be best suited to during the week but STV don't care really - and as for the footy missing fair enough it was Wigan V Arsenal but in general STV don't have any footy on. No wonder people are watching ITV, BBC, SKY. |
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Channels like Movies4men, Film4 and CBS Reality could hit ITV and STV audience at that time of night, They deserve it for showing roulette and something even cheaper.
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STV had no choice over Take the High road, that what the network wanted, If t was up to STV the networked would have gotten Garnock way
Guess whats coming back for a new series........ http://shows.stv.tv/talk-tv/270778-o...ticlepageright STV are not the only company to be Ignorant of its viewers, TSW, was very good at this.... |
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Exactly, who wants political discussion on a Saturday? Also while I know STV has a Scottish remit and is independent of ITV, who really would want to watch Scottish Passport over something like DCI Banks.
While Taggart and Rebus were two bright spots in STV's history, the rest of their output has been largely parochial, dull and cheap. Take The High Road was a typical STV offering, slow, conservative, cheap and aimed at the elderly, indeed they only cancelled this bore when they found out the audience was dying out and not being replaced. ), the quota is made up from what I gather - Nightshift, MovieJuice, STV Appeal, RBS Scotland's Heroes random "scottish" programming - Animal Heroes (stv's cheap version) Scottish Passport, Scotland Tonight and finally ripped off programming from National Geographic and lets not forget the ONE networked programme is Catchphrase really? Anywhere in that list do we see STV selling their material to other channels? Nope
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STV had no choice over Take the High road, that what the network wanted, If t was up to STV the networked would have gotten Garnock way
Guess whats coming back for a new series........ http://shows.stv.tv/talk-tv/270778-o...ticlepageright STV are not the only company to be Ignorant of its viewers, TSW, was very good at this.... Why does STV/ITV think revivals with work? I prefer programming being with original members - Catchphrase thats a laugh Mr Chips looks like Dusty Bin of 321 and the "catchphrases" they are more of a joke - just read up some on the Catchphrase thread - STV must think the viewers are that thick |
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Channels like Movies4men, Film4 and CBS Reality could hit ITV and STV audience at that time of night, They deserve it for showing roulette and something even cheaper.
Thank you hyperstarsponge for noticing this! but most don't see this at all
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They are complete and utterly CLUELESS and IGNORANT of their viewers:-
Clueless - as above, a political prog. on Saturday teatime? Or how about, as you say, interrupting perfectly acceptable ITV networked shows with their own cheap pap, or maybe moving progs. all over the schedule - River Monsters, Cornwall, Ray Mears etc.. etc... Ignorant - because there is never any explanation to viewers if a programme is stopping (Countrywise) and if it is restarting or where it is going in the schedule - that is sheer and utter ignorance of viewers (the same viewers they will happily take their text money from via Nightshift). Honestly, they are pathetic. ![]() Clueless - as in start a programme throw it about then quietly forgotten but expect ITV to do the work they RESCHEDULE it for weekends/weekdays ie 4pm Ignorant - as in viewers will always be second whilst their shareholders roll in the money and live on watching ITV on VM/Sky whilst your freeview viewer has to look for it if possible on ITV Player instead - Irony of all this is that STV wants a Geoblock on between Scotland and England - so lets put this theory to a test, Your following a programme weeks later it aired on ITV is now shown on STV for 4 weeks it is suddenly stopped without explanation - so where does the STV viewer go? Thats right ITV but wait the programme is no longer up (as 30 days has gone and programme is not visible) but lets also remember the ITV site is BLOCKED to view it (you get access to programme info but no player) so how does the viewer catch up if STV have no desire to air it or throw it around randomly during the year? Its utterly pointless! Scheduling is shambolic and all they care about is texting The Nightshift whilst the viewers are treated like crap! |
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STV had no choice over Take the High road, that what the network wanted, If t was up to STV the networked would have gotten Garnock way
Guess whats coming back for a new series........ http://shows.stv.tv/talk-tv/270778-o...ticlepageright STV are not the only company to be Ignorant of its viewers, TSW, was very good at this.... |
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Its frightening when you read the article on the link above and see that STV has a Deputy Director of Channels...eh...that must be a easy job.
So the show will no longer be called "weirs way" its "haymans way" ..... by chance is "trial and retribution" on again (and I meant on ITV3 as I can't see STV sticking that on ... since the lead actor is well .... ummm Scottish)LOL STV is paying tribute .... remember Taggart night? Who's episode did they end up playing? Alex Norton episode and NOT a Mark McManus episode - STV are desperate if they are coming up with crap ideas such as "tributes" it must be a money making thing to celebrate a person it has to be. Why does STV just invest in making decent dramas worthwhile homegrown programming and actual half decent network/worldwide shows but oh no they won't do that as its too "risky" but they must keep their shareholders "happy" no matter the cost. |
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STV had no choice over Take the High road, that what the network wanted, If t was up to STV the networked would have gotten Garnock way
Guess whats coming back for a new series........ http://shows.stv.tv/talk-tv/270778-o...ticlepageright STV are not the only company to be Ignorant of its viewers, TSW, was very good at this.... However, I do blame ITV for killing off Taggart. The last series was the best one since the nineties, but was little watched and reducing the running time to 50 minutes, made some stories rushed. |
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However, I do blame ITV for killing off Taggart. The last series was the best one since the nineties, but was little watched and reducing the running time to 50 minutes, made some stories rushed.
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Alex Salmon thinks you are all going to vote for independence which means that BBC Scotland will be replaced by SBC. Perhaps it's time to buy a satellite dish if you haven't already.
I miss Taggart, not only was it good some series had excellent Dolby Surround sound as well. |
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I get the feeling STV can do decent stuff IF it given the money. Im not sure why STV never carried on. I believed it made its money back on the international sales
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100% agreed it was back to where it was in the 80s and 90s at least its last series was one of the best. Of course ITV is also to blame for it going down hill in the first place. Its a shame there could not have been 2 hour long stories, or better still 3 parters!
Out of interest, what are Alex Norton and Blythe Duff, who will always be typecast as DS Reid, doing these days? |
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100% agreed it was back to where it was in the 80s and 90s at least its last series was one of the best. Of course ITV is also to blame for it going down hill in the first place. Its a shame there could not have been 2 hour long stories, or better still 3 parters!
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I get the feeling STV can do decent stuff IF it given the money. Im not sure why STV never carried on. I believed it made its money back on the international sales
Its 2014 now surely STV can invest in making something brand new and move away from Taggart/Rebus just seems thats all STV wants to do! |
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Originally Posted by Glenn A;72188304[B
]If Weir's Way is making a comeback, wonder if some sadist at Pacific Quay is wanting to revive High Road.[/b] Also I do remember a typically tedious STV series from the seventies called Adam Smith, about a Presbyterian minister. Only STV could make such a slow, dull programme.
However, I do blame ITV for killing off Taggart. The last series was the best one since the nineties, but was little watched and reducing the running time to 50 minutes, made some stories rushed. ITV/STV I would blame on Taggart but for killing it off I blame STV on that one as they repeated the last series TWICE within months (this was once feud was over they started catch up on Downton Abbey or as the infamous tune used in their ad "downtown" idiots!) |
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Yet ask yourself this question - what Drama has STV contributed to the ITV network since "Fast Freddie" nothing - STV are cheap as they come, they don't want to do drama or make half decent shows unless someone backs them (yet they can't make the STV Appeal show appealing - its more like something bought off Gypsies), the last thing STV made was with Alibi (the last series shown) but that was completely ruined really - no explanation on where one of their officers went, looked more like he did not exist.
Its 2014 now surely STV can invest in making something brand new and move away from Taggart/Rebus just seems thats all STV wants to do! I've always found BBC Scotland more interesting. While STV was churning out Take The Valium( sorry High Road), they had Rab C Nesbitt and have a fine history in drama. However, STV, rather like Border were, has its loyal viewers who will watch even if they were showing people watching paint dry in Cumbernauld because it's local. While I accept and admire in some ways STV having a local identity, surely their local programmes belong after News at Ten and in daytime. |
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STV is Border Television reincarnated, a parochial small channel that shows tedious programmes no one in the rest of Britain cares about. It must be very infuriating if they interrupt a popular ITV show with Scottish Passport.
I've always found BBC Scotland more interesting. While STV was churning out Take The Valium( sorry High Road), they had Rab C Nesbitt and have a fine history in drama. However, STV, rather like Border were, has its loyal viewers who will watch even if they were showing people watching paint dry in Cumbernauld because it's local. While I accept and admire in some ways STV having a local identity, surely their local programmes belong after News at Ten and in daytime. STV programming would be better sorted out on where to position them properly, the amount of interruptions to shows is unbelivable - STV buy an ITV show ie Cornwall yet can't complete its run but give it one of their own it completes it run (how ironic) - maybe OFCOM are to blame? I don't know but its beyond pathetic after midnight just to go into closedown for Nightshift/screen in this day and age But why do STV feel the need that the STV public want Scottish Passport on our screens or any of their "charity" shows on ... who decides this?? I rather they made a half assed attempt at making better programming and actually got their programmes out to other networks if they are that desperate for cash rather than keeping it "local" its a joke |
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If Weir's Way is making a comeback, wonder if some sadist at Pacific Quay is wanting to revive High Road. Also I do remember a typically tedious STV series from the seventies called Adam Smith, about a Presbyterian minister. Only STV could make such a slow, dull programme.
However, I do blame ITV for killing off Taggart. The last series was the best one since the nineties, but was little watched and reducing the running time to 50 minutes, made some stories rushed. |
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Poor old STV - now even getting the blame for programmes they didn't make! That slow, dull programme was made by Granada - and at the time it was to me yet another typically slow plodding Granada programme.
Having lived in the Border region for 40 years, like STV, this station would quite happily show SNP conference reports over a good movie that everyone else in England was getting. |
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Yet ask yourself this question - what Drama has STV contributed to the ITV network since "Fast Freddie" nothing - STV are cheap as they come, they don't want to do drama or make half decent shows unless someone backs them (yet they can't make the STV Appeal show appealing - its more like something bought off Gypsies), the last thing STV made was with Alibi (the last series shown) but that was completely ruined really - no explanation on where one of their officers went, looked more like he did not exist.
Its 2014 now surely STV can invest in making something brand new and move away from Taggart/Rebus just seems thats all STV wants to do! |
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), the quota is made up from what I gather - Nightshift, MovieJuice, STV Appeal, RBS Scotland's Heroes random "scottish" programming - Animal Heroes (stv's cheap version) Scottish Passport, Scotland Tonight and finally ripped off programming from National Geographic and lets not forget the ONE networked programme is Catchphrase really? Anywhere in that list do we see STV selling their material to other channels? Nope
but most don't see this at all