England Match: Possibly STV have ran the tape out of John Nettles Midsomer Murders

Nightscreen is just a quick get out clause so they can cut their overnight programming - they still run Nightshift (which that too has past its sell by date) obviously Prom Crazy/Gino will be catch up for STV viewers but possibly expect them AFTER the STV Appeal

The reason why STV are now showing the live England games is simple:-

ITV has the highlight rights to all Scotland's competitive games up to 2018.

Since 2012 STV is now no longer a member of the ITV network, but is offically an affiliate broadcaster of ITV.

Therefore ITV said to STV that the international football rights come as a package (ie Live England games and the Scottish Highlight programme).

In theroy STV could pay the up-front fee for the whole package from ITV andd decide not to show the live England games, but if they are paying then it make commerical sense to broadcast them.

As mentioned before, NIGHTSCREEN is airing a lot earlier on STV, thereby as you say cutting their overnight output. Agree they will probably play catch up with GINO & PROM CRAZY.



Fair point re the football arrangements, however the agreement with ITV for STV taking their other non sports programming has been in place for a couple of years now, and still STV viewers have missed out on film premieres and other programmes (which are either aired at a later date, interrupted or all over the place) or not shown at all. So yes similar to your last line "if they are paying then it makes commercial sense to broadcast them" doesn't always apply to STVs output!

Of course the argument could be that as STV does broadcast OPT OUTS then at some point in the schedule there will be a necessity to screen the replaced programme at another time/day, but the slapdash way STV have done this has been very amateurish....

We rarely get an indication of when the replaced programme will be shown - so when publicity for a new prog. appears in the tv mags and media (e.g GINO or GEMS TV (both next week) there isn't even a courteous "viewers in Scotland can enjoy GINO later next month"...

Programmes interrupted and all over the schedule - CORNWALL being the best example of this - it took STV several months to get through a short run programme - it was everywhere on the schedule, afternoon, evening, morning on different days! COUNTRYWISE is another example of this. Again, no on air announcement of when the next episode is - treating viewers with contempt.

Programmes not appearing - PUBLIC ENEMIES - yet to see this being premiered on STV, but premiered on ITV and repeated on I think ITV4. We assume GINO will be caught up by STV, but will it? What about GEMS TV documentary next week? What about the MOTORSPORT that ITV broadcasts every week? Or the TONIGHT repeats on ITV?

STV are more interested in promoting their cheap, shoddy STV Glasgow channel tosh in their trailers and inserts, rolling out cheap shoddy homemade programmes when instead of making sure the main channel is slick and professional. And their ads for STV Player - a joke, pushing Rebus et al. as if they were made earlier this year!

Nightscreen/play catchup on missed shows - yeah thats true!

Public Enemies I believe it premiered on ITV and then Channel 4 broadcasted it later in the year but STV have never broadcast this film either much like when ITV put it on Inglourious B*sterds it too was later on Channel 4 so its kind of pointless relying on STV for "movie premieres" the way it use to as this lot are more than happy to close up shop and either run Nightshift/Nightscreen to save face

STV's showing of Cornwall has to be one of the worst decisions this lot ever done with their scheduling, there was no thought process into at all but obviously STV's main goal was possibly to try and see how many viewers left the programme due to their shambolic scheduling (yet ITV ran it with much issue - surprise surprise)

STV Player/STV Glasgow - that bugs me more to hell with this lot - 4K Giveaway has the "tagline" now of STV Glasgow (since when??), and as for advertising the channel STV Glasgow they need to get a grip yes it maybe a local channel to Glasgow but the rest of us in North can't get it so STOP advertising it (advertise it locally), STV Player ad yes "catch up on Rebus/Taggart" STV got anything new in that department or are they still flogging dead horses? Its 2014 MOVE ON from these shows and get CREATIVE other than your shoddy programming - also can we actually get FRESH TALENT from ALL OVER SCOTLAND than just Glasgow on this station, than again flogging dead horses around (same old faces)

Here we go again with another update:-

WED. 3RD:-
STV - SCOTLAND TONIGHT, JEREMY KYLE USA - then as Monday, ITV - The Cube/Gambling/Motorsport/Nightscreen/Jeremy Kyle.

THUR. 4TH:-
STV - SCOTLAND TONIGHT, HARBOUR LIVES, YOU CANNOT BE SERIOUS, JEREMY KYLE USA - then as Monday, ITV - Harry At 30/Around The House/Gambling/Tonight/Jeremy Kyle USA/Nightscreen/Jeremy Kyle.

FRI. 5TH:-
STV - FINDING SCOTLAND'S REAL HEROES (4 of 5) primetime, ITV - Gino's Italian Escape - new series.
STV - NIGHTSHIFT, ITV - Gambling/Jeremy Kyle USA.

SAT. 6TH:-
STV - NIGHTSHIFT, ITV - Gambling/Jeremy Kyle USA.

SUN. 7TH:-
STV - SCOTTISH PASSPORT SHORTS (rpt), TALES FROM NORTHUMBERLAND (rpt), GINO'S ITALIAN ESCAPE (last series - rpt), FINDING SCOTLAND'S REAL HEROES (rpt) -all morning, ITV - Film: Carry On Camping.
STV - NIGHTSHIFT/NIGHTSCREEN, ITV - The Store/Motorsport/Jeremy Kyle USA/Nightscreen/Jeremy Kyle.

MON. 8TH:-
STV - SCOTLAND TONIGHT, YES OR NO DEBATE (rpt), YOU CANNOT BE SERIOUS, BRITAIN'S BEST BAKERY, JEREMY KYLE, JEREMY KYLE USA, NIGHTSCREEN, ITV - All Star Family Fortunes/Gambling/Jeremy Kyle USA/Nightscreen/Jeremy Kyle - diff. times.

TUE. 9TH:-
STV - SCOTLAND TONIGHT, ALL STAR FAMILY FORTUNES, JEREMY KYLE USA, BRITAIN'S BEST BAKERY - then as Monday, ITV - Film: Backdraft/Gambling/Loose Women/Nightscreen/Jeremy Kyle.

WED. 10TH:-
STV - SCOTLAND TONIGHT, JEREMY KYLE USA - then as Monday, ITV - The Cube/Gambling - then as Monday.

THUR. 11TH:-
STV - SCOTLAND TONIGHT, JEREMY KYLE USA - then as Monday, ITV - Ray Mears/Gambling/Tonight/Nightscreen/Jeremy Kyle.

FRI. 12TH:-
STV - FINDING SCOTLAND'S REAL HEROES (last in series) - primetime, ITV - Gino's Italian Escape (new series, 2 of 6).
STV - NIGHTSHIFT, NIGHTSCREEN, ITV - Gambling - then as Monday.

So in short - Finding Scotland's Heroes is a filler on sunday (good grief)
Scottish Passport Shorts returns again on repeat FFS STV get a grip on "shorts" put on Tom and Jerry instead and the Yes/No Debate repeat

Next weeks repeats are: Beyond Explanation, Scottish Passport, Highland Highlights, Soapbox Stars (or whatever the 60 sec programme was) and many more repeats ... by chance does this channel have any in the archive belonging to the old Grampian or is that locked up in an archive somewhere in the bottom of the North Sea?

Here are the STV OPT OUTS up to & incl. this Friday:-

MON. 15TH:-
STV - SCOTLAND TONIGHT, ALL STAR FAMILY FORTUNES, JEREMY KYLE, JEREMY KYLE USA, NIGHTSCREEN, ITV - The Beatles/Gambling.

TUE. 16TH:-
STV - SCOTLAND TONIGHT, JEREMY KYLE USA, NIGHTSCREEN, ITV - The Cube/Gambling/Loose Women/Jeremy Kyle.

WED. 17TH:-
STV - SCOTLAND TONIGHT, JEREMY KYLE USA, JEREMY KYLE, NIGHTSCREEN, ITV - The Undriveables/Gambling/Motorsport/Jeremy Kyle.

THUR. 18TH:-
STV - SCOTLAND DECIDES, ITV - SCOTLAND DECIDES (diff. presenters).

FRI. 19TH:-
STV - SCOTLAND DECIDES, SCOTLAND THIS MORNING, ITV - Good Morning Britain - am.
STV - STV NEWS, ITV - Local News/News - teatime.
STV - MOVIEJUICE (new series 1 of 10), ITV - Gino's Italian Escape - pm.
STV - SCOTLAND TONIGHT, THE CUBE, NIGHTSHIFT, ITV - Film: Hot Fuzz/Gambling/Jeremy Kyle USA/Nightscreen.

I think ITV is using STV's coverage of Scotland decides as the sky epg says Bernard Ponsonby and Aasmah Mir are hosting on itv

Friday 19th is likely to change if Scotland goes independent to show the SNP speech, They could also use STV Glasgow as a dumping ground for ITV stuff that isn't on the main channel.

You wait if Scotland gets independence.... I'd guess that ITV would stop providing program's to STV and would start its own channel with British programming, it's what I'd do if I was them...

.... STV will be left with euro news for breakfast and old American sitcom repeats.... Sister sister on a Saturday night anyone?

I read in a tv mag that Alistair Stewart & a.n. other were presenting ITV's coverage, but this may have changed now as you suggest.



The "Scotland This Morning" programme is on air till 10/10.30, though I would imagine if it's a YES victory then they will make sure they are on air live if it's broadcast say later at 11am.


Why would ITV stop providing programmes to STV? STV have paid/are paying for a whole package of programmes provided by ITV to them. It's a contract that will continue to be fulfilled irrespective of independence or not. To suggest otherwise is inaccurate.

After independence or not .... STV will be staying the same - there won't be many changes and I believe if anything was meant to change the licence would be up in 2024-6 as far as I believe

I admit STV ain't that great with programming but to come out with saying Euronews and old american sitcom repeats on where do you get that from? (may change after licence renewal but who knows) but for the present hardly anything will change no matter the vote

The only change if and after the vote (if yes) is the BBC turning into some sort of SBC/SBS no idea how it will work but thats not til 2016 before we even know what will happen but again if its a no similar idea to STV not much will change

I can't see why STV would chuck This Morning on STV Glasgow as well since most viewers on freeview/cable/sky don't even get that in other areas so what would be the point in that one? Either I think STV will delay it to say 11am or it will be left til at least 1230pm to join Loose Women (just going by next programme if This Morning is not broadcast)

again depends on what the outcome really is Yes or No

Seems to be common knowledge now that ITV will be taking STVs coverage along with Bernard & Aasmah.

Updated list of STV OPT OUTS coming our way:-

Comment:- STV wheel out the latest ITV aired series of GINO & HARBOUR LIVES - the big question is - Will these programmes be aired at the same time every Saturday, uninterrupted over the following consecutive weeks? In the land of STV as a viewer it's anybody's guess!

TUE. 16TH:-
STV - SCOTLAND TONIGHT, JEREMY KYLE USA, NIGHTSCREEN, ITV - The Cube/Gambling/Loose Women/Jeremy Kyle.

WED. 17TH:-
STV - SCOTLAND TONIGHT, JEREMY KYLE USA, JEREMY KYLE, NIGHTSCREEN, ITV - The Undriveables/Gambling/Motorsport/Jeremy Kyle.

THUR. 18TH:-
STV - SCOTLAND DECIDES, ITV - SCOTLAND DECIDES (diff. presenters).

FRI. 19TH:-
STV - SCOTLAND DECIDES, SCOTLAND THIS MORNING, ITV - Good Morning Britain - am.
STV - STV NEWS, ITV - Local News/News - teatime.
STV - MOVIEJUICE (new series 1 of 10), ITV - Gino's Italian Escape - pm.
STV - SCOTLAND TONIGHT, THE CUBE, NIGHTSHIFT, ITV - Film: Hot Fuzz/Gambling/Jeremy Kyle USA/Nightscreen.

SAT. 20TH:-
STV - RIVER MONSTERS (rpt), GINO'S ITALIAN ESCAPE (NEW - CATCH UP TO ITV - 1 of 6) , HARBOUR LIVES (NEW - CATCH UP TO ITV - 1 of 8) , ITV - Columbo - morning.
STV - NEWS SPECIAL, ITV - You've Been Framed - teatime.
STV - NIGHTSHIFT, ITV - Gambling/Jeremy Kyle USA.

SUN. 21ST:-
STV - NIGHTSHIFT, NIGHTSCREEN, ITV - The Store/Jeremy Kyle USA/Nightscreen/Jeremy Kyle.

MON. 22ND:-
STV - SCOTLAND TONIGHT, JEREMY KYLE USA (x2), NIGHTSCREEN, ITV - Gambling/Jeremy Kyle USA, Nightscreen, Jeremy Kyle - diff. times.

TUE. 23RD:-
STV - SCOTLAND TONIGHT, THE CUBE, JEREMY KYLE USA (x2), NIGHTSCREEN (1.35-6AM ), ITV - Film: State Of Play/Gambling/Loose Women/Jeremy Kyle.

WED. 24TH:-
STV - SCOTLAND TONIGHT, JEREMY KYLE USA, JEREMY KYLE, NIGHTSCREEN, ITV - The Undriveables/Gambling/Jeremy Kyle.

THUR. 25TH:-
STV - As Monday, ITV - River Monsters/Gambling/Tonight/Jeremy Kyle.

FRI. 26TH:-
STV - MOVIEJUICE (2 of 10), ITV - Gino's Italian Escape (4 of 6) - evening.
STV - NIGHTSHIFT, ITV - Gambling/Jeremy Kyle USA.

I'll give STV the shadow of a doubt they will but knowing them as we have the STV Appeal/Real Heroes around the corner I can see disruption is possible (even if this includes repeating their opt out programming), just expect them to be scattered over the schedule soon

Does any know when the STV Appeal is this year. STV used to air it on a Friday when ITV had the footy but that wont happen now as STV are airing the footy now

Expecting this as well, with absolutely ZERO on screen courteous announcements for the viewer. I will be amazed if they complete their respective runs uninterrupted!


Usually the STV main appeal show airs in the autumn - I had heard it was coming soon (like Kezo says just around the corner) but nothing in the tv guide for next Fri. (26th) so I would say it must be October? I wonder if the referendum this year meant they felt it would be better avoiding the run up to that and decided to push it back after the dust settles?

ps next time you are watching daytime tv on STV keep your eyes on the dishes!

I dont know when there going to air it as Friday is soap night unless they move corrie to Sunday.
e.g 7pm Emmerdale
7.30 Stv Appeal
this is what they did last year but itv was showing footy so it wasnt a big deal.
Saturday and Sunday will be X factor live shows soon unless they air it on a Tuesday from either 7.30 or 8pm till 10

Im watching this the now lot of cleavage on show

You make some good points - could prove difficult for them showing it on a Friday - another option might be to show it on a Friday and air the 2 x Coronation Streets at 10.40pm after the news (not ideal, but maybe an option). Moving it to a Tuesday - possible, negative might be it's earlier in the week and perhaps people less in a mood to give to charity than a Friday and up against River City on BBC1. Also not sure what ITV has planned in the way of Champions League coverage on Tuesday nights (not next week) in October.


Naughty boy!

I could only find info on 2012 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/STV_Appeal

No date for 2013 but according to link it aired on 7 September (2012)! It is later then this year so it probably been pushed back into October if anything I reckon

I am sure something like that happened last year something was moved and I think it was Corrie(I can't be sure) but I don't remember Corrie being moved to a Sunday though!

Was there not one year it started at 8-10pm? If its like that then only one Corrie episode is missing but at same time do they really want to upset their soap fans on this? Plus a later showing at night of Corrie will annoy viewers (but if a viewer is lucky to get ITV on Sky/VM they will be able to follow with much issue)

STV to me at times gives itself too much to do - yet it at times falls behind ITV programming (just weeks after ITV or on current run) and with having the Referendum and their own charity programming, will the STV viewer be sure that if they are following ITV shows new to the schedule they be updated on where it goes? Or will it be guess where it'll appear next? STV in my mind would be alot better waiting to see if ITV may repeat some of its first run programming say at 4pm if it gets too much (they done that with Cornwall if my mind serves correctly)

Im 100% sure the last two Stv Appeals have aired when ITV were showing England games