haters gonna hate.

I would love to know what's your definition of an entrepreneur is


and the haters always like to mention that beauty task forgetting the other tasks which she excelled.

Classic case of haterade.

You post doesn't really warrent a response but I will give you one. I don't hate her; I think she was lucky.

As hard as it may be for you to fathom the world is not black and white. It is my right and my privalige to disagree with the lable of entrepreneur that is put on Susan and suggest she is not the asstute business woman others seem to think and be inttitled to that opinoin without being labled a "hater" as if I am in the playground.

As for my defintion of an entrepreneur; as I said somewhere else if the criterea is applied to Susan it should be applied to a window cleaner, builder or anyone who is infact self employed.

your response could have not been more pathetic if you tried.

Some no name DSer ridiculing a candidate's achievements by calling her lucky. I bet margaret and nick had the wool over their eyes eh? You must be some real hot shot. rolling in the dough?

yeah right. Only a bitter hater would try and ridicule the achievements of a young person. And to be perfectly honest, i dont think susan cares one whit if you think she's lucky or not. She's out there making money while all you can do is try and get sly digs at her. life must be pretty sad eh hotshot

Wow what a remarkable post!

Good luck to her, my main advice would be; avoid your fans they seem a bit ........ odd!

An entrepreneur is a person who has possession of a new enterprise, venture or idea and is accountable for the inherent risks and the outcome of a product.

defintion of entrepaneur by Harvard business school and yes you could apply it to someone who saw a need for a window cleaning business on a street that had none or a builder who sets up a new building business, what is inherently wrong with this?

Especially if those businesses are successful

Helen imo and like she said was a bit lucky in the tasks. In the tasks, they get a lot of help from the production team in logistics so Helen was good at using that help to her advantage, proabably blended in well to her role as a PA, having lots of help on hand because of who her boss was etc.

When it came to Helen having to do all the running around and come up wth a new business idea from scracth, that is where her limits where exposed. She is good for existing up and running businesses but it seems not in one she has to start herself.

I don't think there is snything wrong with it at all. I just think the word is used incorrectly for a lot of candidates.

Any fool can start a business but any fool cannot run one. Running a business takes skill and determination.

And who are you attributing your point too with regard to the candidates?

specifically what is wrong with it being used for Susan?

I personaly don't think it is suitable. I would say she is a self employed person who has done reasonably well.

Simply my opinion.

oh, oh

relation alert

Susan's business wasn't really the problem. It's the fact that he'd have to invest much more than the quarter of a mil prize.

you agree with the harvard definition of entrepaneur , you agree that Susan can fit into that definition and yet don't think it is suitable for Susan


Somewhere along the line I suggest you stop looking at whether you like or don't like a person to decide whether they can be described as an entrepaneur and actually look at what the word means and go with that meaning

Otherise to quote someone who seems to be really disliked by you it is so unfair!

It was silly using Loreal and Lancome as examples. Susan's company is obvioulsy nowhere near that sort of global scale. She is trying to be the next Cowshed or Neals Yard, that sort of thing.

Pretty much sums up my thoughts, he is interested in Susan and predicts "we will hear about her" but ( ithink) Helen had to be 2nd because of her 'record'.

For the record, i doubt she (Helen) would actually have been appointed under the old scheme either. LS already has a loyal and effective PA.

Ooooh, you're praising Susan here! That's a first from you.

Pretty much because of how biased Karren Brady was to her. Margaret had her number - but yet again Karren stuck up for her

Nick and Margaret preferred and rated Susan.
Karren Brady prefers helen.
I know who's judgement I trust most.

can you say where the evidence for Margaret rating susan came from?

Yes. Margaret.
LOL... Cmon everyone can see your negativity towards Susan. That's fine, it's your right, but really, why would I get into discussion with you?
you have typically just denied what people say or misrepresented events or just been dismissive.
There isn't anything ( I think ) that's gonna make you say " oh yes, she did well there. Credit where its due"

every time I ask someone to qualify what they claim I get a response such as this


hmmmmmmmmm

Not necessarily. I was paid in cash when I worked as a PA for a small company. And if you're on a stall which has taken cash all day then giving out cash to the workers means you have less to bank / be mugged for.

Makes sense to me as long as there are payslips and it's logged rather than a sneaky £20 that's not on the books, kinda thing. I would hope - expect - it was all logged and above board!

You did get a response. The evidence that Margaret rated Susan came from Margaret's own lips. What better evidence could you ask for?

When I was in retail, I got to know a lot of salesman, and when it came round to the various trade shows, I invariably got a call for a day or two's work on one of the stands.

I cant think of one occasion that I received a payslip, and always it was paid in cash.

That is how I know that Susan by paying her show staff in cash was not doing anything not considered standard practice.