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Josiestweet

I am no longer being represented by @seanobrien99 I would like to thank Sean and I wish you luck mate. X x

Wow.

Oh wonder what happened

Very interesting - does Sean know though as he says he still represents her on his bio

BIB Josie actually says it turned to hate 'like it did with me and John James' the implication being that they hate each other, not that he hates her and she loves him

I think Josie mentioned John for several reasons, the Cheryl Cole theme is about ex's and so again she's mentioned her ex ex, the man she loved so much she did an abortion article about him . Sorry if that sounds cold, but bitterness is the emotion I get from Josie's recent columns, and bitterness is an emotion I can completely understand post-break-up, having felt it several times myself, and let myself drown in it, wash in it, and wear it like a black cloud over my head.

I think Josie obviously had a lot of anger, resentment, feelings if inadequacy after that relationship, and that obviously these feelings were brought into her relationship wish John. We also know that John too brought some kind of emotional baggage into his relationship with Josie ... although I would say a lot of that was in his head, as he never mentioned having been heartbroken but did seem very cautious about relationships... so I do think that maybe he had had his heart hurt before, but maybe was to macho to mention it.

I think that Josie has mentioned John twice now in the same 'breath' as her ex ex to put it into people's heads that they had both hurt her badly, to connect them together in people's minds, and we know a lot of information about the ex ex. I thought this when John started getting those woman-bashing tweets, the really nasty ones last week, that he was being made guilty by association in a way. Just my theory, but it did cross my mind.

I think that Josie is given a 'theme' by OK every week, and this week was ex's due to the Cheryl Cole situation, OK being a celebrity-based magazine they obviously want everything to relate to that industry in some way, even putting celebrity pictures with real letters.

As the theme was ex's and reuniting with an ex, then I guess it was no surprise that John was mentioned, but I do not think that the column in any way indicates - to me of course - that she is pining away for him. If the column indicates she's not over John, then by the same token it also indicates she was/is never over her ex ex either in my opinion. I do think she harbours these feelings of anger and resentment about what has happened - in both ex relationships, and that's quite natural. I still harbour similar feelings about my ex-husband. I imagine she's questioned herself time and again what went wrong, why did she even get involved with John, etc.etc., all the questions you ask yourself after a relationship fails.

I do also think Josie mentions John because of the response it gets, yes it gets a lot of negativity but that also rallies the muckers and I think there is an element of that in it all. To balance that out, of course John has also been guilty of doing that in the past, rallying the troops, I would say that all celebs who break up do that. I'm not saying that's the main reason, I think it's a small part of it though.

Wendy you mention people having called you delusional, if I have ever been guilty of doing that I apologise. I don't remember ever saying something so insulting to you, but I may have mentioned in the past that I find the whole 'reuniting' business delusional which obviously was rude and in no way intended as an insult to you or my fellow threadmates, I've always respected that we all have our own opinions and that we should all voice them.

So if I've ever come across as less than respectful, I do sincerely apologise x

I hope she's got new representation, it wouldn't be so easy going it alone, agents hear about jobs available, have contacts in the business, know people, have an 'in' if you like. They also know about contracts, etc.

I doubt she is going it alone she has probably signed with someone else.

Not sure I like being first post on the thread. It is only the second time for me and the first time was the night before the ok magazine came out with news of the split (or break or whatever it was )

Hope nothing major happens in this thread

No Ali I didn't mean anyone in particular calling me dilusional . Twitter does that in some quarters but I have my thoughts and have kept with them. I do feel Josie is still in pain, very hurt and more in love with John than ever - imo she's treading water at the mo. She is now a well thought of column writer and face of OK mag, OKtv, Ch5 etc and if she chooses not to talk or compare John, mention his name etc, it will be done - OK will meet her needs. This to me is words from Josie, not OK....

By the way Ali, have you watched the last Harry Potter film yet

edit: had to pinch emoticons again lol

I love you Wendy!!!!!
You know why.

Love u 2 Wends. Josie is just a girl who tells it like it is, and wears her heart on her sleeve.
I dont believe all this stuff thats being spread around about rallying the troops - not in a war, this is real ppl, real lives real emotions, cut some slack, everybody hurts as the song says.

I think they were both acting like they hated one another in the spilt, both hurt and bitter, but really deep down I dont believe they do.

I agree everything Josie says contradicts she doesn't love John but needs time to heal before she dates again surely she isn't healing a broken heart indicating that her heart has been broken by John who she doesn't love confused you will be.

Afternoon everyone

Just a quick pop in in lunch break and I just wanted to share my thoughts so bare with :

There has been no resolve or complete closure with JJJ.

I feel neither are being honest with themselves or others. (no proof just imo)

Both will try and fail to move on until they do.

Both probably trying to rewrite history ...... as a coping mechanism.

Both too scared to open up to each other, still too much anger. Fear of rejection. Fear it won't work.

Both retreating ......

Walls coming back up.

This could go on and on and on .............

Josie will continue to try to convince everyone she is over it and moving on.

John will continue to try and convince everyone he is over it and moving on.

Nothing is really going to move forward for either of them until they are face to face and thrash it out and at the moment I don't think either of them can face that.

Before everyone thinks this sounds negative, I don't mean it as such......

Anything can happen

Nothing is unresolvable.......

Whatever our heads tell us (and theirs) our hearts (and theirs) can tell a completely different story.

So I remain, still on rollercoaster, not even holding on tight. What will be will be. I just continue to feel all is not lost .......

BBL x

Asda Calling Asda Calling Bbl

Booze for threadlings, booze for threadlings, booze for threadlings

thanks for your post on ego based relationships, it was very interesting to read, sorry I can't bring it forward from the previous thread perhaps you could repost the link as it was posted at the end of the thread, I am sure others would be interested later and might miss it. sandra x
ps wendy I agree with everything you say she still loves john big time x

http://www.twitlonger.com/show/bqrhna

Message from John James, short but sweet

Christine x

Tell him

CONGRATULATIONS AND WELL DONE

from all at JJJAT

CHAMPIONS

Sorry Wendy but I don't know how to send a tweet I just read other peoples - I am a nosey old crow, it gets to vicious on there for my liking with people tasking sides. I like them both although they have both done things I disagree with neither deserves the hate messages they get.

Christine x

He sounds in good form anyway.

OK will do

http://www.1lovespirit.com/higher-se...-marriage.html

Oh sorry Christine, I thought you brought it over from Loysforever. I'm a bit dizzy sometimes........... well actually, all the time to be fair Thanks for posting it anyways

I'm sure someone will tell him soon.

Am I going mad or did Josie say in the BB house she has never been inlove?