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Astra 1N - Any News ?
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Night Watchman
06-12-2011
See my new thread on the SES Facebook app for satellites - it is very strange that the 1N spot beam footprint is not shown - are they not using it after all ? Is there any way of knowing? Judging by the S/Q reports from all over Western Europe it doesn't look like they are using a narrow beam for C4 HD and the gang of 5 which is what was supposedly the reason for holding back on new FTA channels.
derek500
06-12-2011
Originally Posted by peter05:
“two millon plus freesat boxes sold plus one million five hundred thousand skyboxes wiht just freesat thats over three million five hundred thousand boxes, say twenty million veiwers that must interest advertisers”

But the chances are they're already watching the ads albeit in SD. The number of 'new' viewers they would get is small. Certainly not enough to offset the subscription income they would lose.
Fran Blakes
06-12-2011
Originally Posted by Night Watchman:
“Sounds like your dish may need a tiny bit of tweeking - you should be getting 100/100 (or very close to it with the power of 1N).”

That's as good as it'll get using ~39cm dish!
Picture is now looking better...
2Bdecided
06-12-2011
Originally Posted by derek500:
“But the chances are they're already watching the ads albeit in SD. The number of 'new' viewers they would get is small. Certainly not enough to offset the subscription income they would lose.”

I'm inclined to agree with you, except that, if HD doesn't attract more eye balls, it would seem a waste of money for ITV, CH4 or five to broadcast any free HD anywhere. Yet there's three of their HD channels on Freeview, and two of them on Freesat. The costs are significant, and by your reasoning, bring no commercial benefit.

Cheers,
David.
DragonQ
06-12-2011
Originally Posted by derek500:
“I must get Freesat to clarify their recent press release.

Quote:
“47% of Freesat customers switched from Sky in 2011 to date”

Quote:
“According to Freesat customer research, a record 47% of its customers have come from Sky
households so far in 2011”

Both statements in the same press release. Which one is correct?”

Both are, since they mean the same thing.
deg625
06-12-2011
5+1.....5USA ...5* and plus 1s now on freesat guide
The Skyman
06-12-2011
Originally Posted by deg625:
“5+1.....5USA ...5* and plus 1s now on freesat guide”

what channel numbers please...
Joddle
06-12-2011
5+1 128
5usa 129
5usa+1 130
5* 131
5*+1 132
Neda_Turk
06-12-2011
Now. what next?

When is 7701 (The Channel 5 weaker copy of the one on the BBC transponder) going to be renamed and go FTA?

What is ITV up to? What are they up to with their "7480" HD channel on 11053H?

Questions, questions.........
derek500
06-12-2011
Originally Posted by 2Bdecided:
“I'm inclined to agree with you, except that, if HD doesn't attract more eye balls, it would seem a waste of money for ITV, CH4 or five to broadcast any free HD anywhere. Yet there's three of their HD channels on Freeview, and two of them on Freesat. The costs are significant, and by your reasoning, bring no commercial benefit.

Cheers,
David.”

Because they wouldn't want the BBC to be the only service carrying their main programmes in HD?
derek500
06-12-2011
Originally Posted by DragonQ:
“Both are, since they mean the same thing.”

'Switched from Sky' means they've changed from Sky to Freesat.

'From Sky households' means they have bought a Freesat box, but still may have Sky.
Fran Blakes
06-12-2011
Originally Posted by Neda_Turk:
“Now. what next?

When is 7701 (The Channel 5 weaker copy of the one on the BBC transponder) going to be renamed and go FTA?

What is ITV up to? What are they up to with their "7480" HD channel on 11053H?

Questions, questions.........”

7480 is ITV 3D according to Kingofsat 2011-06-05
What freq is "7707" on - couldn't see on Kingofsat...
Neda_Turk
06-12-2011
Originally Posted by Fran Blakes:
“7480 is ITV 3D according to Kingofsat 2011-06-05
What freq is "7707" on - couldn't see on Kingofsat...”

7701 is on the 1N channel 5 cluster 10964H 22000 5/6

It's encrypted but only in FTV so I can watch it on may SkyHD box.

It's a copy of the Channel5 (part network) that is currently on the BBC transponder at 10773H.

I think that it will go FTA, rename and then get added to the EPG in place of the BBC transponder one. They will then cut the BBC transponder one, saving them money.

But when?

Also when will ITV be running a 3D service?
Fran Blakes
06-12-2011
Originally Posted by Neda_Turk:
“7701 is on the 1N channel 5 cluster 10964H 22000 5/6

It's encrypted but only in FTV so I can watch it on may SkyHD box.

It's a copy of the Channel5 (part network) that is currently on the BBC transponder at 10773H.

I think that it will go FTA, rename and then get added to the EPG in place of the BBC transponder one. They will then cut the BBC transponder one, saving them money.

But when?

Also when will ITV be running a 3D service?”

Thanks!
What 3d format will/does ITV use?
derek500
06-12-2011
This afternoon ITV turned off its two regions (Central S and Central E) on Astra 2b south, 11973V.

They're now on 1N at 11053H, 22000, 5/6.

These two were favourites with small dish caravanners and expats in Spain. However, reports are coming in of them being available on an 80cm dish just south of Torrevieja (much larger needed for 2d).
Digi Man
06-12-2011
Originally Posted by derek500:
“This afternoon ITV turned off its two regions (Central S and Central E) on Astra 2b south, 11973V.

They're now on 1N at 11053H, 22000, 5/6.

These two were favourites with small dish caravanners and expats in Spain. However, reports are coming in of them being available on an 80cm dish just south of Torrevieja (much larger needed for 2d).”

Didn't this happen yesterday afternoon?
grahamlthompson
06-12-2011
Originally Posted by Fran Blakes:
“Thanks!
What 3d format will/does ITV use?”

There's only one broadcast 3D. The difference is down to the TV using using active or passive glasses.

Two 960 x 1920 frames squashed side by side into a single 1920 x 1080 frame.
derek500
06-12-2011
Originally Posted by Digi Man:
“Didn't this happen yesterday afternoon?”

Yes you're right.
DragonQ
06-12-2011
Originally Posted by grahamlthompson:
“There's only one broadcast 3D. The difference is down to the TV using using active or passive glasses.

Two 960 x 1920 frames squashed side by side into a single 1920 x 1080 frame.”

Two 960x1080 frames inside a 1920x1080 frame.
grahamlthompson
06-12-2011
Originally Posted by DragonQ:
“Two 960x1080 frames inside a 1920x1080 frame. ”

Ooer - you are of course correct. I have some frame grabs from the Wimbledon coverage if any one wants to look at what it looks llke on a normal TV.
Neda_Turk
06-12-2011
Originally Posted by grahamlthompson:
“Ooer - you are of course correct. I have some frame grabs from the Wimbledon coverage if any one wants to look at what it looks llke on a normal TV.”

What channel did they transmit Wimbledon 3D on then?
joshua_welby
06-12-2011
Originally Posted by grahamlthompson:
“Ooer - you are of course correct. I have some frame grabs from the Wimbledon coverage if any one wants to look at what it looks llke on a normal TV.”

Will it be possible for me to see the Screenshots?

Thanks
rossi_dr
06-12-2011
UTV Movies Indian is testing FTA on 28E 11662H 27500 2/3 named > 51037
will 1N Bring any foreign channels to freesat ?
is UTV Movies new to 28.2e and on 1N ?
grahamlthompson
06-12-2011
Originally Posted by joshua_welby:
“Will it be possible for me to see the Screenshots?

Thanks”

No problem

Original 1920 x 1080 frame

http://www.4shared.com/photo/RwdUp1p...edon6orig.html

Resized to 3840 x 1080 to recreate the two 16:9 frames

http://www.4shared.com/photo/k_exU5Qr/Wimbledon6.html

They are framegrabs from the actual stream not photos of the screen.
cyclic
06-12-2011
I understand that Foxsat HDR shows with "i" button as follows:
a) HD icon leftish jf this channel is HD
b) HD icon rightish if this is SD but HD also available

So e.g,
BBC1HD, BBCHD, ITV1HD, CH4HD have HD icon leftish
BBC1SD (non local), ITV1SD, CH4SD etc have HD icon rightish
CH5SD BBCTHREE, etc has no HD icon

However curiously E4 has HD icon rightish during Hollyoaks
Does this mean there is an E4 HD version imminent?

Teasing us? or a cock-up?
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