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Astra 1N - Any News ?
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Flyer 10
12-01-2012
Originally Posted by mjr:
“It may be related to the planned More 4 relaunch which means a lot of C4 type content won't show on More4 any longer ”

I thought More 4 was the repeats channel. Does it show anything thats not a repeat?
derek500
12-01-2012
Originally Posted by Flyer 10:
“I thought More 4 was the repeats channel. Does it show anything thats not a repeat?”

The Good Wife. Which used to get an HD repeat on C4, but alas not after season one.
obrienmichael05
13-01-2012
Originally Posted by Thunderquaker:
“£225 for an annual subscription ”

Here you go.


C4 planning repeats channel
11 January, 2012 | By Balihar Khalsa


Channel 4 looks set to launch a new station that would show the last seven days most popular programmes.

The plan is thought to be called ‘Project Shuffle’ and, according to sources close to the channel, it is an attempt to increase the broadcaster’s portfolio share.

The main channel’s content would be made available for the next seven days in a linear broadcast fashion.

The example one source gave was: an episode of Location, Location, Location premiering on a Wednesday would be played out in the same slot on a Thursday, Friday and Saturday.

Films and acquired series are likely to be exempt from the shuffle due to rights issues.

A C4 spokesman said: “We are always looking at ways of innovating our offering to viewers,” but otherwise declined to comment.

The C4 network currently comprises of four channels: C4, E4, More 4 and Film 4.

More 4 is being rebranded and overhauled to become more of a lifestyle channel. A digital scrapbook, will be launched in April, which will align the channel more closely to channel4.com.

The overhaul will see More 4 repeating programmes such as One Born Every Minute and Come Dine With Me from the main channel.

However, some C4 staff are understood to see the shuffle step as at conflict with the More 4 relaunch and the strategy to drive viewers to 4oD, which has recently been offering viewers episode premieres in a bid to collect more data.
eureka
14-01-2012
There are a couple of new frequencies on 1N today. (11112 H 23000 8/9 DVB-S2 QPSK / 11141 H 23000 2/3 DVB-S2 QPSK / 11156 V 23000 2/3 DVB-S2 QPSK also a new ITV HD channel on 11052 H 22000 5/6, The channel number say's 7480. Anyone know what region ? (lots of signal on this transponder in Costa Del Sol, but nothing on the above new frequencies) Are they showing any signal in UK ?
Phil Owens
14-01-2012
Originally Posted by eureka:
“There are a couple of new frequencies on 1N today. (11112 H 23000 8/9 DVB-S2 QPSK / 11141 H 23000 2/3 DVB-S2 QPSK / 11156 V 23000 2/3 DVB-S2 QPSK also a new ITV HD channel on 11052 H 22000 5/6, The channel number say's 7480. Anyone know what region ? (lots of signal on this transponder in Costa Del Sol, but nothing on the above new frequencies) Are they showing any signal in UK ?”

11112 H 23000 8/9 DVB-S2 QPSK / 11141 H 23000 2/3 DVB-S2 QPSK / 11156 V 23000 2/3 DVB-S2 QPSK
Not getting a signal on those, and as for the ITV HD channel I don't see 7480, but getting 20780 but the message about it being scrambled or not available ..
Gerry Wicklow
14-01-2012
No Signal on the 3 TPs.
7480 was scrambled up to now. Flag still set but visible. Seems to be the same region as the one on 10832 (adverts for south-east?)
hoov1002
14-01-2012
Originally Posted by eureka:
“There are a couple of new frequencies on 1N today. (11112 H 23000 8/9 DVB-S2 QPSK / 11141 H 23000 2/3 DVB-S2 QPSK / 11156 V 23000 2/3 DVB-S2 QPSK also a new ITV HD channel on 11052 H 22000 5/6, The channel number say's 7480. Anyone know what region ? (lots of signal on this transponder in Costa Del Sol, but nothing on the above new frequencies) Are they showing any signal in UK ?”

The region is London, saw it last evening, showing the regional news for London
DragonQ
14-01-2012
1920x1080?
Neda_Turk
14-01-2012
Not getting anything to the settings above and 7480 has been around for ages now and mostly encrypted.
Ray Cathode
14-01-2012
7480 is FTA but with the encrypted flag set. Whether you can see it or not depends on how your receiver deals with this. I agree it's ITV1 HD London.
Neda_Turk
14-01-2012
Originally Posted by Ray Cathode:
“7480 is FTA but with the encrypted flag set. Whether you can see it or not depends on how your receiver deals with this. I agree it's ITV1 HD London.”

Ah! Thanks for the info - scuttles off to investigate...........


Oh yes I've got it up on my PC Card now that I've told it that it isn't encrypted.

Bitrate 9.16mbs (ish)

Videoformat: 960x1088

Not getting any sound at the moment - Is it me?
guapofeo
15-01-2012
Originally Posted by Neda_Turk:
“ Not getting any sound at the moment - Is it me?”

Receiver = Openbox S9HD or Hauppauge PCi card, both clearing video and audio ok.

Enjoy the rest of your weekend.
Neda_Turk
15-01-2012
Originally Posted by guapofeo:
“Receiver = Openbox S9HD or Hauppauge PCi card, both clearing video and audio ok.

Enjoy the rest of your weekend.”

Thanks. I'll go and play with the sound settings and see what I can get.

Have a nice weekend!

Strangely I'm now getting AC3 sound on Audio PID: 2332 not no sound on the standard Audio PID: 2333

And what is with this even stranger resolution of 960x1088? That's worse than their normal cut down version of HD.
Gerry Wicklow
15-01-2012
Originally Posted by Neda_Turk:
“...

And what is with this even stranger resolution of 960x1088? That's worse than their normal cut down version of HD.”

There is some speculation that this is for 3D, 960 being half the screen of normal HD. Others are better qualifed than me on these matters.
DragonQ
15-01-2012
Yes, 3D is broadcast as 960x1080 (really 960x1088 but 8 lines are blank).
grahamlthompson
15-01-2012
Originally Posted by DragonQ:
“Yes, 3D is broadcast as 960x1080 (really 960x1088 but 8 lines are blank).”

It's broadcast at 1920 x 1080 interlaced just like any other FULL HD broacast, each single frame has two 960 x 1080 images side by side (each one is squashed 50% horizontally). This is what you see if you view on a normal TV.

http://www.4shared.com/photo/RwdUp1p...edon6orig.html
DragonQ
15-01-2012
Yes that's what I meant. Presumably they're testing one half of the frame, no idea why.

Or they might just be experimenting with using 960x1080 as a new "HD" standard.
grahamlthompson
15-01-2012
Originally Posted by DragonQ:
“Yes that's what I meant. Presumably they're testing one half of the frame, no idea why.

Or they might just be experimenting with using 960x1080 as a new "HD" standard. ”

Don't give em any ideas

They will start to use one channel for two broadcasts
Neda_Turk
15-01-2012
It will be half/half 3D quality with two pictures of 480 each!

(In some places half/half is known as a quarter, but why spoil it whilst being silly?)

M60
15-01-2012
Looking on Linowsat it also appears, possibly at the time 7480 started showing ITV1HD London around the 13th, that the average bitrates on both ITV Central regions and the ITV1+1 Wales have gone up somewhat. It's now close to 4Mb/s on both services and between 3.5Mb/s and 4Mb/s on ITV1+1 (however this is still running at 544x576i).

Those two William Rd tests are still running at 2Mb/s CBR too alongside the HD feed at 9200 Mb/s, maybe we'll see some more activity on this Txp this coming week?
Neda_Turk
16-01-2012
4Mb/s quick! Someone tell Channel 5. They might get some ideas about how to transmit SD channels.
nepotism46
16-01-2012
Originally Posted by Neda_Turk:
“4Mb/s quick! Someone tell Channel 5. They might get some ideas about how to transmit SD channels.”

I look at the CH5's and the picture looks terrible! The transponder has the best signal but the quality of picture is awful. It's like a half hearted effort by the channel 5 people.
M60
16-01-2012
Originally Posted by nepotism46:
“I look at the CH5's and the picture looks terrible! The transponder has the best signal but the quality of picture is awful. It's like a half hearted effort by the channel 5 people.”

I do think longer term they are going to have to spread a couple of these across a second Txp, probably when and if they get 5HD uplinked by themselves. Maybe they'll tie this in with a regionalisation of the C5+1 service to make a second transponder worth it financially.
DragonQ
16-01-2012
If they get another 4 versions of 5 +1, plus 5 HD, they can fit all of their stuff on 2 DVB-S transponders with acceptable bit rate (~68 Mbps total, so assuming 10 Mbps is used for HD like the other PSB HD channels, that's 58 Mbps left for 13 SD channels, so 4.5 Mbps each).
M60
16-01-2012
Originally Posted by DragonQ:
“If they get another 4 versions of 5 +1, plus 5 HD, they can fit all of their stuff on 2 DVB-S transponders with acceptable bit rate (~68 Mbps total, so assuming 10 Mbps is used for HD like the other PSB HD channels, that's 58 Mbps left for 13 SD channels, so 4.5 Mbps each).”

Don't forget you've got your data and audio overheads on top of that so knock off another 6-10MB but your right, good quality SD and a single HD channel at 10mbps would look better. For example I guess mixing some of the services up so moving, say, 5*+1 and putting a 2x C5+1's on 10964H too would improve the stat muxing. They could then put three C5+1 regions's, a C5 region (from 10964H) and 5*+1 on a new TP all sharing a stat mux pool. 5HD would then utilise a CBR of 10mbs. Maybe something like that is the plan?
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