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Astra 1N - Any News ?
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derek500
01-11-2011
Originally Posted by kjhskj75:
“Now 22000 and DVB-S (rather than S2)

In this state does this mean a Sky box can see it ?”

Yes. They can be added on a Sky box. Just done it!!
Neda_Turk
01-11-2011
DVB-S 22.000 5/6 QPSK at the moment

It actually stayed there long enough for me to get i into DVBViewer.

Coming in at 99% (Don't think DVBViewer does 100%) compared to showing onlt 94% on the old frequency.
BrianWescombe
01-11-2011
Originally Posted by figrin_dan:
“There's currently a whole bunch of Sky channels on 11171H.”

Should Freesat users be concerned that some Sky services are on 1N? Wouldn't surprise me if they leased all the available transponders to stop more FTA channels!
Muzer
01-11-2011
Originally Posted by BrianWescombe:
“Should Freesat users be concerned that some Sky services are on 1N? Wouldn't surprise me if they leased all the available transponders to stop more FTA channels!”

Reckon it's more of a test than anything else - it could also be on the wide beam. I don't think there's currently cause for concern.
Neda_Turk
01-11-2011
11171 22.000 5/6 - And it does work on a Sky+HD box!
kjhskj75
01-11-2011
Originally Posted by BrianWescombe:
“Should Freesat users be concerned that some Sky services are on 1N? Wouldn't surprise me if they leased all the available transponders to stop more FTA channels!”

I don't think so. What would Sky put on them ?

Sky is currently limited by boxes that only allow so many channels, and that limit has been reached.

Also Astra 1N has huge capacity, as much as two of the old satellites put together.
blueplatinum
01-11-2011
Originally Posted by derek500:
“Yes. They can be added on a Sky box. Just done it!!”

Me too and I'm in Gran Canaria (albeit with a BIG dish!).
BrianWescombe
01-11-2011
Originally Posted by kjhskj75:
“I don't think so. What would Sky put on them ?

Sky is currently limited by boxes that only allow so many channels, and that limit has been reached.

Also Astra 1N has huge capacity, as much as two of the old satellites put together.”

So Sky could in theory transfer everything they currently have on 2A/2B onto 1N? Wouldn't put it past them at all!
Phil Owens
01-11-2011
Originally Posted by BrianWescombe:
“So Sky could in theory transfer everything they currently have on 2A/2B onto 1N? Wouldn't put it past them at all!”

That would depend on how many transponders they have leased on 1N...
BrianWescombe
01-11-2011
Originally Posted by Phil Owens:
“That would depend on how many transponders they have leased on 1N...”

Exactly my point! How do we know that Sky haven't leased as many as they could to reduce the number of FTA channels that can go on there? They don't like competition!
lbear
01-11-2011
Originally Posted by BrianWescombe:
“Exactly my point! How do we know that Sky haven't leased as many as they could to reduce the number of FTA channels that can go on there? They don't like competition!”

We know from the SES press release that when the satellite became operational there were none.
BKM
01-11-2011
Originally Posted by BrianWescombe:
“Exactly my point! How do we know that Sky haven't leased as many as they could to reduce the number of FTA channels that can go on there? They don't like competition!”

Transponders are FAR too expensive (and are rented on a long-term basis) do do what you suggest!

Astra2D was different in that Sky HAD transponders on it from well before Freesat - which they did not offer to release. While Sky got blamed for not doing this they are certain to have complex fail-over plans which will require them to have a suitable mix of transponders on every satellite
peter05
01-11-2011
Originally Posted by BrianWescombe:
“Exactly my point! How do we know that Sky haven't leased as many as they could to reduce the number of FTA channels that can go on there? They don't like competition!”

nobody should trust SKY
jzee
01-11-2011
Originally Posted by peter05:
“nobody should trust SKY”




AGREED

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ears
01-11-2011
Beautiful.
EUROPA
01-11-2011
Originally Posted by peter05:
“nobody should trust SKY ”

yes that why they have no customers,make no money,and no one wants to watch it...
ears
01-11-2011
I don't think anybody is calling into question the success of their marketing strategy,profitability or business plan. Don't start arguments with yourself, you've got plenty ongoing ones in this thread to keep you occupied.
peter05
01-11-2011
Originally Posted by EUROPA:
“yes that why they have no customers,make no money,and no one wants to watch it...”

SKY you mean,oh is that right, well if you say so
EUROPA
01-11-2011
using STD SKY SD box

11.171 H 22000 5/6

NOTHING AT ALL
peter05
01-11-2011
Originally Posted by EUROPA:
“using STD SKY SD box

11.171 H 22000 5/6

NOTHING AT ALL”

great on my humax freesat box
blueplatinum
01-11-2011
Originally Posted by EUROPA:
“using STD SKY SD box

11.171 H 22000 5/6

NOTHING AT ALL”

What size dish?
jzee
01-11-2011
Originally Posted by ears:
“Beautiful.”

One of my better smiley doodles, I don't usually post them but I thought that one had at least some artistic merit.
belson
01-11-2011
no signal over mideast
youddiph
01-11-2011
Originally Posted by avit_now:
“What channel is that on?”

The fantasy channel
BenSat
01-11-2011
Hi there


I know this is the Freesat forum, but this is in response to previous posts in this thread about receiving Astra 1N with a Skybox:

For the people tuning in to 11171H with a Skybox, I just wanted to mention that you’re not really watching pictures from Astra 1N at all!

The 11171H transponder is (for now) an exact clone of transponder 26 (12207V, 27500, 2/3). (With regards to the contents, not the technical parameters.)

This is demonstrated by the two transponders currently having the same stream ID: 07ea.

This means that if you do a manual channel search in the Installer Setup you do get the strength and quality readings for 11171H, and you can store Sky News, for instance, if you want to. (You can, of course, also store it through the Add Channels function.)

But if you then try to access it from the Other Channels menu what you’re actually getting is the same old version from 12207V, that you probably already have on channel 501. This is because the stream ID make the Skybox look at 12207V, regardless.

Thus you can not (at the moment) get any pictures from 11171H on a Skybox.
(At least not based on the three SD boxes that I have access to.)

If you don’t believe me try entering the Installer Setup and switching off the 22kHz tone. You have now disabled (all but the lowest frequencies on) the high band.

If you now select Sky News from the Other Channels menu, what happens? You should still be able to get 11171H on the low band if, indeed, that is where the box is ’looking’ for the channel. But is it? And can you? I certainly can’t.

AFAIK, only Skyboxes behave in this way.


Regards,
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