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Astra 1N - Any News ?
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Originally Posted by Neda_Turk:
“E4HD now testing FTA!!! on another satellite (Please see other thread out there>>>) Is it getting ready to jump over to 1N?”
“E4HD now testing FTA!!! on another satellite (Please see other thread out there>>>) Is it getting ready to jump over to 1N?”
If the move to 1N for FTA E4 HD was to be a permanent one, I would have thought that it would have joined C4HD on
11127V
Originally Posted by kerry:
“If the move to 1N for FTA E4 HD was to be a permanent one, I would have thought that it would have joined C4HD on
11127V”
“If the move to 1N for FTA E4 HD was to be a permanent one, I would have thought that it would have joined C4HD on
11127V
”
Yes, that's a valid point. We'll just have to wait and see.
It is all these little channels that lock themselves up with Sky(and Virgin) that really annoy me. So I live in hope of E4HD, Film 4HD and Channel 5HD getting their acts together and act like a free TV companies.
Originally Posted by Neda_Turk:
“11171 22.000 5/6 - And it does work on a Sky+HD box!”
“11171 22.000 5/6 - And it does work on a Sky+HD box!”
It is not showing up on my Sky HD box, has it been removed now?
Originally Posted by joshua_welby:
“It is not showing up on my Sky HD box, has it been removed now?”
“It is not showing up on my Sky HD box, has it been removed now?”
It has indeed
Originally Posted by joshua_welby:
“It is not showing up on my Sky HD box, has it been removed now?”
“It is not showing up on my Sky HD box, has it been removed now?”
Ha you have to be quick. That post was posted yesterday at 5pm a lot has changed since then!
But yes it has gone at the moment. Will it come back? No one knows.
The Channel4HD one seems more stable and more likely to stay where it is on 1N, but as with any new satellite things are still being tested and are coming and going and changing faster than people can post!
I still don't know why people think that channels need to change frequency from their existing Astra 2A or 2B frequencies. There is capacity on 1N to allow some of these transponders to change over to a spot beam on the new satellite. What we don't know is how many of the 52 transponders on 1N can be used on a spot beam.
I would expect someone would spot a change in strength or quality as a sign of a swap - I wonder if someone could set up a script to detect such unexplained changes and report them, so that we would all know 
(I would if my DVB-S2 card actually supported tuning to something without you having to give it every piece of information known to man about the transponder)
(I would if my DVB-S2 card actually supported tuning to something without you having to give it every piece of information known to man about the transponder)
Originally Posted by Muzer:
“I would expect someone would spot a change in strength or quality as a sign of a swap - I wonder if someone could set up a script to detect such unexplained changes and report them, so that we would all know
(I would if my DVB-S2 card actually supported tuning to something without you having to give it every piece of information known to man about the transponder)”
“I would expect someone would spot a change in strength or quality as a sign of a swap - I wonder if someone could set up a script to detect such unexplained changes and report them, so that we would all know
(I would if my DVB-S2 card actually supported tuning to something without you having to give it every piece of information known to man about the transponder)”
I'm in the same boat with my TV card, but having fun learning.
One little thing wrong and nothing, tick a box that no one else has mentioned and up everything pops.
I usually find things with Transedit then copy them across to DVBViewer. But as for signals with nothing on them to find and I can't see then at all. (Still not missing much if there is nothing on it)
Nice to have E4HD on it at the moment, but for how long?
Originally Posted by Neda_Turk:
“I'm in the same boat with my TV card, but having fun learning.
One little thing wrong and nothing, tick a box that no one else has mentioned and up everything pops.
I usually find things with Transedit then copy them across to DVBViewer. But as for signals with nothing on them to find and I can't see then at all. (Still not missing much if there is nothing on it)
Nice to have E4HD on it at the moment, but for how long?”
“I'm in the same boat with my TV card, but having fun learning.
One little thing wrong and nothing, tick a box that no one else has mentioned and up everything pops.
I usually find things with Transedit then copy them across to DVBViewer. But as for signals with nothing on them to find and I can't see then at all. (Still not missing much if there is nothing on it)
Nice to have E4HD on it at the moment, but for how long?”
I don't use Windows (I'm a real computer geek; I use Linux), it's still a royal pain, though, as quick apps just to view streams never work (you have to use a dedicated tuning app just to get a damn lock, then play the stream in some video player). Apparently MythTV can handle it OK but I still haven't gotten around to setting it up for satellite yet.
(I do also need a faster computer in my room if I want to actually watch HD channels - my fast computer I keep in my attic, which I use for most things, but that's nowhere near a dish or an aerial...)
But yeah, I have to provide freqency (obviously), polarisation (obviously), symbol rate, FEC, DVB-S/DVB-S2, modulation (QPSK/8PSK), and even rolloff (usually 0.35, though I have no idea what it actually means unlike the other settings). It's a lot more forgiving with DVB-S transponders, though, pretty sure it supports blind scan on those (so just requires freq and polarisation).
Originally Posted by Muzer:
“I don't use Windows (I'm a real computer geek; I use Linux), it's still a royal pain, though, as quick apps just to view streams never work (you have to use a dedicated tuning app just to get a damn lock, then play the stream in some video player). Apparently MythTV can handle it OK but I still haven't gotten around to setting it up for satellite yet.
(I do also need a faster computer in my room if I want to actually watch HD channels - my fast computer I keep in my attic, which I use for most things, but that's nowhere near a dish or an aerial...)
But yeah, I have to provide frequency (obviously), polarisation (obviously), symbol rate, FEC, DVB-S/DVB-S2, modulation (QPSK/8PSK), and even rolloff (usually 0.35, though I have no idea what it actually means unlike the other settings). It's a lot more forgiving with DVB-S transponders, though, pretty sure it supports blind scan on those (so just requires freq and polarisation).”
“I don't use Windows (I'm a real computer geek; I use Linux), it's still a royal pain, though, as quick apps just to view streams never work (you have to use a dedicated tuning app just to get a damn lock, then play the stream in some video player). Apparently MythTV can handle it OK but I still haven't gotten around to setting it up for satellite yet.
(I do also need a faster computer in my room if I want to actually watch HD channels - my fast computer I keep in my attic, which I use for most things, but that's nowhere near a dish or an aerial...)
But yeah, I have to provide frequency (obviously), polarisation (obviously), symbol rate, FEC, DVB-S/DVB-S2, modulation (QPSK/8PSK), and even rolloff (usually 0.35, though I have no idea what it actually means unlike the other settings). It's a lot more forgiving with DVB-S transponders, though, pretty sure it supports blind scan on those (so just requires freq and polarisation).”
For the Channel 4HD on this 1N bird I got nothing until I put a tick in the box 'Pilot Symbols' (whatever they are?) in Transedit and then it popped up. I usually do the try anything and everything approach, but with less info to start with, that's a lot of variables.
Originally Posted by Joddle:
“Hi all - I left the HD recorder on all night to see if the signal from 11126 changed. It was running between 6pm and 4am and during the entre time the signal level changed only very slightly from about 70% to 65% at about 11pm to 11:30 although that could have been due to some light cloud that was about last night. (using the bars on the Humax the SS was always in the green by one or two sectors . The qualty remained at 100% throughout the test.”
“Hi all - I left the HD recorder on all night to see if the signal from 11126 changed. It was running between 6pm and 4am and during the entre time the signal level changed only very slightly from about 70% to 65% at about 11pm to 11:30 although that could have been due to some light cloud that was about last night. (using the bars on the Humax the SS was always in the green by one or two sectors . The qualty remained at 100% throughout the test.”
How does that compare with 2D at your location?
Signal drop off in the evening can be a big problem in Moraira. Unfortunatly I'm in the UK so can't check it.
Terry
Originally Posted by Ignite:
“I still don't know why people think that channels need to change frequency from their existing Astra 2A or 2B frequencies. There is capacity on 1N to allow some of these transponders to change over to a spot beam on the new satellite. What we don't know is how many of the 52 transponders on 1N can be used on a spot beam.”
“I still don't know why people think that channels need to change frequency from their existing Astra 2A or 2B frequencies. There is capacity on 1N to allow some of these transponders to change over to a spot beam on the new satellite. What we don't know is how many of the 52 transponders on 1N can be used on a spot beam.”
I believe it's all of them, they are switchable.
Terry
Originally Posted by park_gate:
“How does that compare with 2D at your location?
Signal drop off in the evening can be a big problem in Moraira. Unfortunatly I'm in the UK so can't check it.
Terry”
“How does that compare with 2D at your location?
Signal drop off in the evening can be a big problem in Moraira. Unfortunatly I'm in the UK so can't check it.
Terry”
All the 2d channles suffer in the eveings from about 8pm onwards - some of the horozontals a litle earlier at times. Also heavy cloud and rain makes a big diffefernce but here in Valencia we have it much better than in Moriira and tend not to lose any of the more common channels at all during normal conditions although the SS goes down quite a bit and the quality also suffers. Normally ITV2+1 is the first to suffer and drop off at about 10pm but recovers again after midnight. Comparing 2D and 1N - the SS of the later seems not to suffer nearly as much at night moving perhaps only 5% at worse on my Humax (but still in the green) and that could be due to cloud and not time. The quality does not change at all. On 2d I am lucky to have the SS in the green at night although there is enough to give a picture most of the time and the quality varies from 60% to 100% depending on the channel and time. So all in all, based on just one overnight test and on the one channel we have on 1N, it seems that for the Costa Blanca 1N is stronger and more stable then 2D. - We will see
Originally Posted by Neda_Turk:
“What's the record for the slowest start up and has 1N broken it yet?”
“What's the record for the slowest start up and has 1N broken it yet?”
Could turn into another Astra 2C.
Originally Posted by nepotism46:
“Could turn into another Astra 2C.”
“Could turn into another Astra 2C.
”
I for one am not expecting a lot from Astra 1N. I'm not expecting a whole bunch of new channels to appear over the coming weeks. When Astra 2C was at 28 east all that was on it was the Channel 5 bouquet of channels and it looks like at the moment that all we are going to see on Astra 1 N is Channel 4 HD and some ITV regions. A lot of speculation about Channel 5 and it's sister channels moving over but nothing is set in concrete. A bit of a dead duck at the moment.
Originally Posted by obrienmichael05:
“I for one am not expecting a lot from Astra 1N. I'm not expecting a whole bunch of new channels to appear over the coming weeks. When Astra 2C was at 28 east all that was on it was the Channel 5 bouquet of channels and it looks like at the moment that all we are going to see on Astra 1 N is Channel 4 HD and some ITV regions. A lot of speculation about Channel 5 and it's sister channels moving over but nothing is set in concrete. A bit of a dead duck at the moment.”
“I for one am not expecting a lot from Astra 1N. I'm not expecting a whole bunch of new channels to appear over the coming weeks. When Astra 2C was at 28 east all that was on it was the Channel 5 bouquet of channels and it looks like at the moment that all we are going to see on Astra 1 N is Channel 4 HD and some ITV regions. A lot of speculation about Channel 5 and it's sister channels moving over but nothing is set in concrete. A bit of a dead duck at the moment.
”
Sort of off topic but Astra 1N related. Does anyone think that there will be any sports channels starting up on 1N to rival Sky now that they got hammered in Europe by Karen Murphy? It would be fantastic if some other channel started the football or any sports other than sky.
Another bit of info for fringe users (well at least those in Spain).
This afternoon we have had torrential rain and black cloud. The 2D signals generally went down to about 60% SS and 70% quality on my rig but on occasions a lot lower than that - ie to about 55-60% qquality. However on the 1n channal the SS did not waiver from 70% and the quality remained at 100%
This afternoon we have had torrential rain and black cloud. The 2D signals generally went down to about 60% SS and 70% quality on my rig but on occasions a lot lower than that - ie to about 55-60% qquality. However on the 1n channal the SS did not waiver from 70% and the quality remained at 100%
Originally Posted by nepotism46:
“Sort of off topic but Astra 1N related. Does anyone think that there will be any sports channels starting up on 1N to rival Sky now that they got hammered in Europe by Karen Murphy? It would be fantastic if some other channel started the football or any sports other than sky.”
“Sort of off topic but Astra 1N related. Does anyone think that there will be any sports channels starting up on 1N to rival Sky now that they got hammered in Europe by Karen Murphy? It would be fantastic if some other channel started the football or any sports other than sky.”
Not unless RealDigital have got any ideas.
In fact I think the judgement means that sports rights will have to be sold on a pan-european basis is future, so many of the European channels that footy fans like to watch will disappear.
Or at any rate will no longer show premiership matches.
Originally Posted by Joddle:
“Another bit of info for fringe users (well at least those in Spain).
This afternoon we have had torrential rain and black cloud. The 2D signals generally went down to about 60% SS and 70% quality on my rig but on occasions a lot lower than that - ie to about 55-60% qquality. However on the 1n channal the SS did not waiver from 70% and the quality remained at 100%”
“Another bit of info for fringe users (well at least those in Spain).
This afternoon we have had torrential rain and black cloud. The 2D signals generally went down to about 60% SS and 70% quality on my rig but on occasions a lot lower than that - ie to about 55-60% qquality. However on the 1n channal the SS did not waiver from 70% and the quality remained at 100%”
Same here in Calpe, but an interesting point for others on the fringe - all the other HD channels are far better than the normal Astra 2D BBC / ITV channels for reception - I now would only recommend a Freesat HD box or TV as a minimum over here if forthcoming 1N channels are as good....
I s the Channel 4 HD test complete now ie. all sound, Now & Next, Subtitles etc. in place. Is there any chance it could be renamed and on the EPG before the weekend?
Originally Posted by blueplatinum:
“I s the Channel 4 HD test complete now ie. all sound, Now & Next, Subtitles etc. in place. Is there any chance it could be renamed and on the EPG before the weekend?”
“I s the Channel 4 HD test complete now ie. all sound, Now & Next, Subtitles etc. in place. Is there any chance it could be renamed and on the EPG before the weekend?”
no i think ir's just there to let us know astra1N is working
& there is no now & next
Originally Posted by peter05:
“no i think ir's just there to let us know astra1N is working”
“no i think ir's just there to let us know astra1N is working
”
We heard all the talk from broadcasters saying when narrow beam capacity becomes available! Now it's at 28.2E nothing more mentioned, apart from old press releases which i received. Nothing has changed for the viewer. A case of what we already have is rebroadcast on 1N.
Maybe when it's time for blast off for Astra 2F all the testing could possibly be finished on 1N. The most tested Satellite in history. I hate saying this but is there a need at all for this satellite?
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