well may be astra 1n has run out of fuel so it will have to stay 28.2 and the new narrow beam satalite will have to go to go 19.2

well may be astra 1n has run out of fuel so will have to stay at 28.2 and the new narrow beam satalite will have to go to 19.2 next year

Digi Man Has posted about some movement on the 1N transponder in the 1N Changelog on here.

Seems it's their turn to have a shuffle.


http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...1&postcount=26

Can anyone from the affected regions do a Freesat rescan to find out whether or not those regions have yet been added to the Freesat EPG?

(Well, I suspect it'll happen tomorrow).

ITV1+1 has now got it's name as well!

Just wonder what the almost HD channel (Formally known as The Gremlims Channel) is going to be?

One called "Service 7465" is showing the same as ITV1+1 which is ITV Wales.

All action on the 1N ITV transponder at the moment!

Edit: "Service 7465" has now disappeared just leaving the one ITV1+1 (Wales) now.

And 2011 has gone as well now.

Current lne up:

ITV1 Central S - FTA
ITV1 Central E - FTA
ITV1+1 (Wales) - FTA
20780 Almost HD The gremlins Channel - Encrypted

Not in the area myself but I did a quick scan using Nottingham post code NG2 3NG and it still came up with ITV1 Central W.

Now one called 7480 has popped up but is encrypted.

Stand by! Remain seated uptil the bud has stopped!

EDIT: 7480 has now replaced 20780. Still encrypted (even on a Sky Box)

7480 is broadcasting 9.2mbs of video (encrpted) so it's stll an HD channel (Of sorts)

That seems crazily inefficient when they could achieve the same result by reducing FEC, with the bonus of increasing bandwidth.

What about "20791", is that still on 11.053 H, if so, what is it's current status?

Also, did "20780" get relabelled as "7480"?

Now we have got four Ch5 channels from 1N but the strange thing is if you step upwards (number-wise) from one to the next each channel one is about 1.2 seconds behind the previous!!!

"20791" has disappeared ?!

"20780" was there. Then it was there with "7480". then "20780" disappeared.
Now The channel lebelled "7480" has an SID of "20780"
So basically, yes, after all the shuffling, 7480 and 20780 are one and the same. Whether 20780 became 7480 or 7480 became 20780 is not known by me.

Currently 4 channels: (And their SIDs showing what they used to be)

Label SID
ITV1 Central S - 20700
ITV1 Central E - 20701
ITV1+1 (Wales) - 20715
7480 - 20780

And the Channel 5 that is a copy of the BBC one was about 9 seconds behind the BBC one.

I think this is done so that if you get a big changing scene on one channel, it doesn't happen at the same time on all the copies at the same time or the encoder would give up.

By delaying each copy, the big flash is only happening on one channel copy at a time.

Well that is my theory behind it.

That makes sense so they are not all showing the exact same content, it helps with same channels using vbr.

There is an echo in here. Didn't I just say that?

If they are in a statmux, adding a delay to each version showing the same content will allow the statmux to share the bits.

Otherwise it would be pointless to use a statmux.

Does no one actually read before they post here any longer?

Maybe some of us can't type as quickly as you

I posted 33 minutes before your one sentence.

And 1 hour an 8 minutes before the second post saying the same thing

There is slow and then there are excuses.

So... does anyone wonder if it's anything to do with statmuxing?



In all seriousness sometimes people open a number of threads in tabs to read later (and then maybe get delayed reading a previous thread), it's easy to end up replying to a thread without refreshing it, and so miss the last couple of replies.

ITV & BBC & C4 also use delays on their similar channels. Yes it's for stat muxing.

Why not just have each multiplex/transponder have a version of all the channels? For example:

Mux 1 = BBC One London, ITV1 London, ITV1+1 London, Channel 4 London, Channel 4+1 London, Channel 5 London, Channel 5+1 London
Mux 2 = BBC One North, ITV1 North, ITV1+1 North, Channel 4 North, Channel 4+1 North, Channel 5 North, Channel 5+1 North
etc.

I doubt "North" is an advertising or news region but you get the point. Stat muxing would, in theory, be much more efficient this way.

So with statmuxing (has anyone heard of that?) Some people will know who has won X Factor before others do.

Someone with far too much time on their hands just has to do a chart of which is the less delayed version on BBC, ITV, Channel 4 and Channel 5

Don't be silly, that would require far too much cooperation between "competing" broadcasters.

Can anyone confirm whether there's Freesat EPG data being broadcast on the new FTA ITV1 Regions on 11053H? There's currently no DVB subtitles on there, just wondering whether these might also get added to the Freesat EPG for relevant postcodes tomorrow?

I personally reckon they'll wait until some of their micro-regions are discontinued and Astra 2B TP36 is migrated over to TP59 on 1N, then add them all to Freesat in one go. This is going to screw up some people's PVR's in terms of series linked programmes.

Not seeing anything yet, guess we will have to see if the get added to Freesat tomorrow or all in one go at a later date.