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Old 20-07-2011, 16:48
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Rock Statesmen?

Really? What do you think?


Are they over rated and are they what anyone would call 'rock stars'?
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Old 20-07-2011, 16:51
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This is just like when Rihanna kept chanting "I'm a rockstar" in Rockstar 101. Just embarrassing...
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Old 20-07-2011, 17:21
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what a load of bullshit... rock? ROCK? ... jeez, if that lightweight, plaigarised riddeld, whitterings of that chris martin bloke constitutes what passes for rock nowadays then the music industry is in serious trouble.

statesmen?... lol... statesmen are respected, as i clearly dont respect them they obviously arent! lol.
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Old 20-07-2011, 17:25
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Violet Hill ripping off T-Rex's riffing style does not a rock track make.
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Old 20-07-2011, 17:30
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I wouldn't call them rock. They're more alternative. They've been very on and off with me, particularly during their early days (excluding 'A Rush Of Blood To The Head', which was all kinds of brilliant), but I love their fourth album and their fifth may just be their best yet. I'm in love with 'Every Teardrop Is A Waterfall', and by the sounds of things, 'MX', 'Charlie Brown' and 'Hurts Like Heaven' are all indicative of what could be a brilliant fifth album for them.
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Old 20-07-2011, 17:33
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I wouldn't call them rock. They're more alternative. They've been very on and off with me, particularly during their early days (excluding 'A Rush Of Blood To The Head', which was all kinds of brilliant), but I love their fourth album and their fifth may just be their best yet. I'm in love with 'Every Teardrop Is A Waterfall', and by the sounds of things, 'MX', 'Charlie Brown' and 'Hurts Like Heaven' are all indicative of what could be a brilliant fifth album for them.
alternative?...to what?... they are mainstream, mor, guitar pop.
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Old 20-07-2011, 18:16
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Their first album was U2 knock-off material, granted, but there were some better moments regardless. Their second album was hardly middle-of-the-road. Their third was disappointing but again, not exclusively middle-of-the-road. Their fourth album was the most alternative by a country mile. I wait eagerly for the next hit song featuring a yangqin, a tabla, a tack piano, a string quintet, or a timpani.

It seems, Coldplay have been around for so long that they have become epitomised by themselves; the music they released 2001-2005 is now being labelled 'guitar pop' and is something their newer material and commerciality is being blindly judged against.

But to relinquish any fires I'd like to add that no, I don't believe they should be labelled "Rock Statesmen".
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Old 20-07-2011, 18:26
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I wouldn't call them rock. They're more alternative. They've been very on and off with me, particularly during their early days (excluding 'A Rush Of Blood To The Head', which was all kinds of brilliant), but I love their fourth album and their fifth may just be their best yet. I'm in love with 'Every Teardrop Is A Waterfall', and by the sounds of things, 'MX', 'Charlie Brown' and 'Hurts Like Heaven' are all indicative of what could be a brilliant fifth album for them.
They are MOR radio 2 in the afternoon music. Alternative? I'm sorry, I don't hear Sonic Youth or Fugazi or Slint in their sound.... don't hear Pavement or The Pixies either... so I assume "alternative" to you is "anything not obviously pop or rock" because to call Coldplay alternative is to call the Spice Girls paragons of feminist virtue and dignity.
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Old 20-07-2011, 18:54
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Another argument about genre, as if it matters how you classify them.

I'll never understand why people care about getting the little boxes they put bands into exactly right.
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Old 20-07-2011, 21:29
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They are MOR radio 2 in the afternoon music. Alternative? I'm sorry, I don't hear Sonic Youth or Fugazi or Slint in their sound....
AFAICT "alternative" is basically the American version of "indie" and has become debased in a similar way.

Since some point in the late 90s (*) "indie" has basically become a term that refers to anodyne, mainstream, big label, unthreatening chart-friendly guitar fodder like Coldplay. The first time I heard "Yellow" (i.e. their debut) after listening to all the hype I was like "*this* is what all the fuss is about?!"

Coldplay are basically a corporate record company employee's wet-dream version of Radiohead, had they sold out, had a pretty-boy lead singer and turned out anodyne, MOR, fake-indie toss.

Edit: Oh yeah, and "rock statesmen"? Sounds about right for those boring dullards- but unlike (say) U2, Coldplay always *were* that boring, they've just been around long enough for other dullards to start giving them "credit" for it. Bleh.....

(*) Hello Travis! Whatever happened to them?.... oh yeah, I remember... Coldplay happened, that's what.
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Old 20-07-2011, 21:32
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They have far too much filler on their albums to be considered a 'classic' band.

The first time I heard "Yellow"

Same chord progression as Oasis- All Around The World.
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Old 21-07-2011, 06:36
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What? Rock Statesmen?
No, no, no and no!!!
For me they are guitar driven pop...(and very often so bland it hurts)
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Old 21-07-2011, 12:51
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Another argument about genre, as if it matters how you classify them.

I'll never understand why people care about getting the little boxes they put bands into exactly right.
Fair point, indeed.
Mmm I know I started this is what more that they'd applied such value to Coldplay and yes I guess I was referring to genre, but there really isn't much 'rocking' to coldplay... Maybe I'm being too conventional.
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Old 21-07-2011, 12:59
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Do they really have to have a label?

You either like them or you don't

I love them whatever
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Old 21-07-2011, 13:56
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Another argument about genre, as if it matters how you classify them.

I'll never understand why people care about getting the little boxes they put bands into exactly right.
try 'because music has many different styles, its not all the same'...

are coldplay r n b? classical? folk? dance? etc...it might seem trite to you but like it or not music does come in many differing forms.
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