Caroline for me is no loss to the show she was annoying and so was her family, I cant see why Bravo gave them a spin off when they really havent got that much of a big fan base compared to Teresa. But Andy loves everything Manzo so i bet he was the one who got it for them.

I don't like Caro but are you talking about the tears over Dina? or was that season 2? I forget.

If it was the ones over what Danielle supposedly did to Dina, I get why she cried. Dina could have lost her child over that.

I dunno she wasn't I suppose the biggest character but she was a bit of a silent assassin and the show was essentially built around her. She was pretty much the catalyst for every bit of drama on the show and then kind of sat back as every else went crazy over it.

Even when she'd gone she continued to be the cause of a lot of the drama for at least season 3.

LOL. No, I doubt they would repeat it from the beginning, but this is itv we're talking about. It would be a miracle if they just showed Season 8.

I suppose but the minute she was called out by Jac & Danielle she backpedaled and walk away. Caro done all her dirty work and without her I'm not sure Dina would have the balls to do anything and knowing the show as it is now, she'd be called out a lot more and quicker anyway.


Yeah I know, I hope they just go to season 8. If they must have a repeat, just season 7 & at that, that's only cause I wanna see Jeana and Kara at the finale..when Kara wore that raincoat was hilarious!

Why are ITV2 still showing re runs of Millionair Matchmaker, its been on for nearly a year!

Well Just watched this last finale of NJ before i go to work

To be honest I wish i didnt... For me it was a let down but what do i expect from this season which has been a pretty bland season. So the episode picks up after last weeks and we see 'small glimpses' of a fight it lasted like 5mins if that. Im let down by it cause when this was being filmed it sounded like it really got nasty but maybe stuff had to get cut due to legal issues.

We then see Teresa admitting to knowing stuff and saying how cause she felt so down she let the likes of Penny and Kim D get to her, she admits this all to Jac first who then tells her to tell Joe to just end it once and for all.

In between all of this we see Caroline roam through the house talking about how there are so many memories in the house that she cant bring herself to leave :yawn: Do any of us actually care if she moved or not? We are then treated to another BLK product placement but this time they have flavoured water to show us Only good thing about this part was Teresa talking to Joe and admits to Joe about everything says she is sorry.

Towards the end Teresa and the family head to Jersey Shore where the house which was destroyed by Hurricane Sandy restored and everyone comes over they have a BBQ then its on to speeches basically re-capping the season.

The only good what happened after messages was Teresa's and im surprised they added it on if im honest but it is the main focus right now and I feel bad for her because not only is her whole life being turned upside down but as a fan this may be the last time we see Teresa on this show if it gets really bad

I actually liked that the focus of the New Jersey finale wasn't really on the fight or Penny and this Johnny ''The Greek'' dude - or even the police charges that followed (those were very wisely kept hush hush ) But with the relationships within the group itself.

This entire season has been about rebuilding relationships and I think having it all end with the group still caught up in the drama of ''strippergate'' and cheating rumours would undermine the whole angle the show was trying to portray. Season 6 really needs to be about ''moving forward''. Nobody wants more family feuding.

I found the scene of Caroline wandering around her house and the flashbacks to her memorable moments on the show to be quite contrived and almost sickly-sweet - but I do think it was a great little send-off. She has been a big part of this show so she deserved it.

The highlight of the episode came in the last minute or so. I found it rather unexpectedly tense because, at the heart of it, there are 4 young children involved. I really hope this isn't the last we see of the Guidices on this show because without Teresa, I really don't think it has legs to stand on. If rumours of a returning HW are true next season then perhaps it's producers way of trying to retain viewers who they surely know by now only tune in for Teresa.

I can't wait for the reunion next week!

Yeah I cant imagine NJ without Teresa or her family Its really sad whats happening i know what they did was wrong but there are kids involved in this and i cant imagine how heartbreaking its going to be if they both have to go prison or even if Joe does time its going to effect her and the kids badly, i hope everything does work for them well.

As for the returning HW i really hope its Danielle she was such a bitch but i loved her and she said it how it was Also Dani had nice things to say about teresa when she was on WWHL. She is also re-tweeting all the time when fans ask her to go back onto the show.

Next season needs whole new direction anyway they need to move away from this whole family drama because fans are bored of it and turning of.

Im hoping/thinking maybe Bravo wanted this season like it was so it could just end on a nice note, then they will re-launch with S6 with 2 new HW and let a new era begin.

As for Caroline leaving it is going to be weird without her on the show and she did have a good send of in the finale but for me she didnt really add much to this season apart from being the peacekeeper and as nice as it is its not really fun to watch.

Anyone have any previews of the reunion by any chance ?

I really enjoyed the finale of New Jersey. They certainly saved the best episode for last. It was also one of the only episodes this season that actually felt real.
The ending was so sad though, as even though I wasn't always a massive fan of the Guidice's I do feel sorry for them, even though they have done this to themselves. It's the poor kids you have to feel sorry for. Milania's muffin top comment was .
The producers obviously knew that Caroline was leaving at the end of this season, which is why she hasn't had a big part this time. I really hope that Danielle does come back and maybe a brand new housewife for Season 6, as I finally think the family drama storyline is done, which makes me excited for Season 6.
Anyone have a link for Joe and Teresa's WWHL special as it's not available on the site I watch the HW's.

RHOV is the nastiest one of them all. They have lots of money, huge houses and seem sad.

Reiko was not asked back due to lack of drama on season1 and Christina declined and was happy not to return.. no wonder all the hatefest.

http://delishows.com/watch-what-happ...e-giudice.html

I wish Christina had returned, she was really entertaining.

RHOV started off well yesterday, Ronnie is a lot more likeable and down to earth than she was in the last season. (for now anyway :P)

Thanks so much for the link, however I wish I hadn't watched it now. These two are so delusional it's unreal.

Just been catching up with the finale of NJ. I'm so glad this season is over. Its just been a re-hash of the same old stuff that nobody cares about anymore.

Having said that though, I did quite enjoy the finale, and I agree with BumbleSquat- I am SO glad the focus wasn't on the Posche 2 fight, no need to give Penny any more screen time than she's already had! Horrible woman! And that hair?! I'm sorry, I know I keep bringing it up, but seriously, the woman owns a Salon and she walks around with hair like that from the colour, to the seriously bad extensions, I just cant. She and Kim D are clearly buying their hair from the same place. Scary!

I think its pretty much a cert that Caroline is done with the show, the little montage of their past moments in the house seemed like a nice little send off for her. I'm glad though, its time she left, she hasn't been as bad this season, but I cant tell you just how OVER the woman I am. I wont be watching her spin-off, I cant imagine anything less entertaining. Definitely will not miss the kids either. The boys I can take, Albie is a cutie and by far the most likeable member of the whole family. Lauren however, that girl is a pit-bull. I cant even stand to look at her. Everything about her grates on me.

I think there is definitely light at the end of the tunnel now with NJ though, Season 6 looks like a season of changes and I cant wait. I hope Teresa is still able to be a proper part of the show (in my eyes, Tre is NJ. Without her I doubt anyone is interested.) Caroline and Jac need to go, and it seems pretty certain they are, Kathy is lovely, I like watching her, but she's not for this show at all. It be good if she came back as a "friend" and that way we can keep Rosie. Melissa Id get rid of as well but I don't see it happening. I'm not sure what I think about these rumours of a returning housewife for next season. Id prefer 2 fresh, new women that haven't been featured before. Danielle, entertaining as she was, was just insane and I'm not sure Id want her back full-time. Dina I did like, more or less, so maybe she could return. If I had to choose Id rather see Dina back over Danielle.

What did we think of Tre and Juicys sit down with Andy? I mean, I get that there is a lot of stuff they cant talk about. but they didn't really say much of anything, he just sat there and said Whatever the whole time, and Tre just kind of stumbled her way through it. What Juicy had to say about Melissa and Joe not being very supportive was interesting. The finale of NJ was so focused on the relationships between them all, but I don't think for a second that Tre and Melissa are trying to put all their crap aside. They might be able to play pretend for the cameras, but I think that's as far as it goes. I think there is a part of Melissa that is thrilled with what's going on right now with Tre.

I'm curious to see what kind of direction the Reunion is going to take.

They've been charged with 39 counts of money fraud and tax crimes and could face up to 50 years in prison... and yet she still doesn't understand all the charges against her?! How can she be so clueless?

She constantly said throughout that interview that their attorneys were dealing with it but surely if you were the one facing quite possibly the rest of your life in the clink then you'd want to educate yourself on why exactly you're going there! It beggars belief!

OMG how can they both be so ignorant of what they are being accused of? They didn't even understand the charges. They should have an IQ test to make sure they are capable of defending themselves in a court of law.

Anyone else see WWHL with Bethenny and she couldn't wait to say that she heard Joe and Tre are going to jail? I really used to like her but now I can't wait to see her fall from grace. Such a bitter, hateful excuse of a woman.

Jody had a zinger of a line just now on ITV2. "There's nothing like feeding the impoverished some cake"

Robin, u can't sing. go away! Can't stand her already

She seriously can't! Why is everyone acting like she's the next Mariah Carey?!

It's sad, I've been watching the reruns of NY on ITV2 in the mornings and Bethenny used to be so much fun, fantastic one-liners (about Kelly "She's evidently Madonna" in that charity meeting was hilarious!) and she's sadly turned into somebody who really believes her own hype. It's a shame.

I'm watching the reruns too and Bethenny and Jill were the best RHONY Housewives.

Does anyone know what Bethenny's spinoffs were like?


That was hilarious.

Howled with laughter when Amanda took on Ronnie - Jody's face was gold! As if she was thinking 'It's actually not me for a change!'

I read a lot about Mary being bullied this season... but atm she and Ronnie look OK. Is that to change?

This! I use to love Bethenny. When she was on NY Housewives, she was my absolute fave but now I just cant take the woman at all. She is so bitter these days its unbelievable. She really thinks she "it"


Honestly the way Mary is treated this season by Ronnie and Jody is just disgusting. You would think she was the devil incarnate the way those women vilify her. I liked Vancouver Housewives at first, but you couldn't pay me to watch Season 2 again, its beyond. Nasty and horrible. Ronnie and Jody are surely the most disgusting women, Ronnie has serious mental issues I have no doubt, and Jody and that daughter of hers are vile. I'm so glad they decided to axe it after that season.

Just going to catch up on this weeks Miami, and I Dream of Nene, is anyone else watching Nene? I absolutely love it She is in fabulous diva mode as ever, and its much better than Tamra's wedding show, I just couldn't invest in it.