You're right And in S05E06 too, when Joe Gorga & Joe Guidice began to fight. Definitely a first for Atlanta though, I think.

What on Earth was Nene on?! She completely provoked the entire thing with the sh*t-stirring question cards. She also was tough on Kenya - not that Kenya didn't deserve a talking to considering she blew up over tardiness recently - but to do it right there in front of everyone just created a bad atmosphere in an already tense situation. Nene then has the nerve to say she organised the whole thing so everyone could work through their problems! It's interesting because last season Nene was so above all the drama. She had ''grown''. Kandi even pointed it out - it was laughable that she was saying that because her drama and craziness wasn't so long ago! And now that her beloved role of playing herself in The New Normal has been cancelled she's back to her usual self in Atlanta...

I also don't think Kenya charged at anyone. Charging at someone is, in my opinion, running at them like a furious elephant, ready to flatten them! She didn't do that. I'm surprised that anyone would blame her really.

Apollo... what can I say? Brain-dead muscle man who thinks that just because he has fists he has to use them...

I'm dying to see the next episode!

I have to defend NeNe now, I think those question cards came from the producers and she didn't have any other choice than to use them.

Ohh Lord, Atlanta was insane! I need Kenya's fan from the reunion to bat all the craziness away

I am SO glad I'm not the only one who is 100% convinced that Nene was on something (think it may have been snowing )I called it right away, she had all that restless energy, and I'm sure she wasn't like that when Porscha, etc arrived. Its sad, cos I love Nene and I don't like to think of her as getting drugged up.

Anyways, she instigated ALL of that! She was throwing serious shade around with those questions and they were designed to get a response. She knew exactly what she was doing.

Kenya may be a sh*t stirrer herself, but I was totally on her team last night. Ill say this for Kenya, girlfriend does not back down from a confrontation and good for her! Like she was just supposed to sit there and let Christopher come at her, and then he pus his hands on her?! Hell No. Christopher and his wife are pure Trash. Enough said. No wonder Brandon got involved and came to Kenya's defence, nobody else was in a rush! And as others have said I noticed Peter holding him down while Apollo went postal on him. I was disgusted by both of them.
We are so not getting the full story though (selective Bravo editing again?!), I mean why was Apollo even involved at all. It makes no sense. Then for Nene to try and blame Kenya for all that, No way, props to Kenya for not backing down to Nene.

I knew this would be the last ep before they take a break for the Superbowl next week. Gutted. I cant wait for the next one, but Im for sure going to be watching that ep again.

Apollo dropping $8,000 a WEEK at the strip clubs?! I too have to wonder where that money came from, esp in light of the latest news to come out about him. I still think Phaedra is way too savvy to be involved in anything like that though. I hope she is anyway.

I LOVED Phaedra's naming ceremony for Mr President. It was ridiculously OTT, esp for a baby, but I love watching Phaedra throw these totally outlandish events. How funny to see Dwight again?! He used to be around all the time. I enjoyed his and Phaedra's dance, great fun. Apollo and Phaedra are so on the outs though aren't they, he just looked like he wanted to be anywhere else but there and all they did was snap at each other.

I cant wait for the Reunion now Kenya is going to be lapping up all the news about Apollo.

Atlanta was just crazy last night. Its sad all the stuff with Apollo because as Phaedra said last night they have two young boys mixed up in this. Even before all the bank fraud they don't seem on the best of terms.

Some Crazy New York gossip though! http://tamaratattles.com/2014/01/27/...ome/#more-9130 God could you imagine single Ramona and Sonja in RHONY? I think Ramona turns a blind eye though to Marios indiscretions.

Is it sad I'm looking more forward to Vanderpump Rules then RHOBH tonight?

According to Nene's blog Kenya was 3 hours late and everyone was ready to go but production wouldn't let them until Kenya arrived.

Not sure how reliable Nene's version of events is though

What is going on with Beverly Hills, it's turning to complete trash. The last few episodes have been so boring. We must be almost 3/4 of the way through and nothing has happened. I can't believe i'm gonna say this but I have enjoyed Season 8 of the OC more than this season of BH and BH was always one of my favourites.

The production/editing on Beverly Hills is a sham. It's embarrassing how poor it is.

There is no build up to anything and no story-line for anyone this season! Last night was a prime example of poor editing there's no build up to the Kyle/Carlton fiasco but then Carlton goes off on one about her -where is all the scenes with the tension that the other girls go on about? It's just really weird and nothing adds up.

There's an obvious lack of direction for the season. Not to mention their attempt to make it relevant to younger audiences falling flat on its face.

I loved the scene with Kim and her old friend from back in the day. It's the first thing this season that's made me curious and wanting to see more...potential romance for Kim? I wanna see more of Kim meeting people and talking about her past showbiz time, it intrigues me. Unlike Carltons bs.

Brandi annoys me but I can see how Lisa annoys her. Yoyo was a lot, lot more likable this episode. I liked Lisa getting along with Kyle more but it was crappy to back out 2 mins before she was meant to attend. I like Joyce and it was nice for to defend her friend, Kyle.

As much as I love Kyle, Kim, Joyce & even to a very small extent (as she annoys me greatly) Lisa I wouldn't mind the entire cast being dropped next season and bringing in a new group of women. It's not been done before and would be interesting to see how it would work.


Atlanta was crazy - an angry moose pumped full of cocaine must definitely be a first for reality TV.

Don't buy that for a second, during the episode didn't it say she was an hour late. Also I'm sure Nene would have been going at her for 3 hours and why would production bother editing it out. Kenya didn't rise to Nene's criticism of her tardiness as Nene would have liked.

NeNe needs to come back down to earth! Since last season it was bad but now her ego is so big she forgets where she came from. And she did say Kenya was only an hour ON CAMERA so she is BS I think she's really on a drive to get Kenya of the show and is doing everything to make her leave, Kenya is a threat to NeNe because Kenya has become a better character this season.

Beverly Hills.....I agree with there no direction this season and I think an ENTIRE cast revamp would do the show good These women have become stale an just so bitchy... Bravo should refresh it and see how things go.

As for NYC I am now on Season 5 and what a change watching these seasons back to back and seeing such a dramatic change is weird lol. Im glad Kelly left cause she needed help and Jill meh I will miss her though cause she does bring drama... BUT why ALEX! Alex and Simon grew on me and by S4 i was loving Alex. Glad they kept Ramona, Luann now so sure was not really a fan sometimes i like her then next cant stand her and she is so condescending and Sonja she needed to be kept she sure knows how to bring drama and she is funny and crazy.

But yeah I love NYC cant believe i only just got into it.

This is obviously the point where they realised Carlton would be a cast member, wasn't she rumoured to only be a "friend" at one point, obviously the fight with Kyle got her cast member status.

I can't deal with her anymore, she talks about positivity and all she does is swear and hate on people.

Vanderpump Rules once again beat RHOBH last night, and also had its highest rated episode since the premiere of the show last year!

I've said this every week now but Carlton's dislike for Kyle is an obvious attempt to stay relevant. It's clutching at straws for a storyline.

This weeks' episode once again proved it. It was either a bad editing error or Carlton making up crap but when Kyle gave Carlton her necklace at the Americana party we see Carlton in her talking head saying maybe she got it wrong about her. Maybe this is an attempt at a fresh start and to move on. Then we see her go to Yolanda's the next day. We know it's the day after the party because Yolanda points out her hangover from the party the day before... Then in Carlton's talking head again she tells us that ''a few days'' after the Americana party she woke up and had this bad feeling about Kyle.

How many of these people are grifters?

http://m.tmz.com/#Article/2014/01/29...-beverly-hills

According to this, Joanna wants to either switch to Orange County or Beverly Hills.

That might spice it up, particularly with the whole Yolanda's hubby thing and the words thrown between Krupa and Glanville. She is right though, its likely Miami would be the 2nd franchise to be axed whenever it happens.

I really dont want Miami axed Last Season was fantastic and the reunion was brilliant, I dont want Joanna in BH cause like i said it will become a Jo vs Brandi season and that will really turn me of Joanna is a fame whore who will do anything to stay relevant hopefully Bravo ignore her pleas. If they want to ale a new cast for BH then Search for NEW people.

As for NY does anyone think Bravo will edit S6 like Miami was ? Miami last season was edited beautifully and i loved how they did the reunion with all the backstage stuff.

Joanna needs to take a seat. That girl is not the star she thinks she is. If she were to move to Beverly Hills I think Id be done, I cant stand the girl. I cant see it happening though thankfully.

For me personally, its Adriana that makes Miami. Love her or hate her, she is perfect Housewives material.
I'm still holding out hope that Miami might get another season, I loved Season 2 and while Season 3 was a bit hit and miss, for the most part I enjoyed it. And the reunion was epic. Miami give a good reunion I'm not holding my breath, the ratings for Season 3 were beyond dreadful, but Id watch another season for sure.

Moving onto this weeks ep of Beverly Hills and I just don't know what's happened to this show. I cant really muster any enthusiasm for it at all.

Carlton irritates me. At first I thought her instant dislike for Kyle was kind of amusing, but really, she just seems to have taken against her for absolutely no reason. Its embarrassing. It just seems like a way to have a storyline and get camera time. I'm over her. And I'm no fan of Kyle, but really!

Totally agree with the lack of direction/bad editing this season. Nothing seems to add up and everything seems a bit out of place. Kyle and Carlton's fight was just

This show needs a major clear out or something next season. Its not the show it used to be. This was my fave behind Atlanta and I used to find myself avidly looking forward to the next ep, not anymore! I'm actually more excited to catch up with the NYC ladies, I cant wait for them to be back on.

I like Miami and would like to see it back. In order to go forward I'd drop Lea, Lisa, Alexia & Marysol. Just continue with Adriana, Joanna, bring back Karent & Ana and then ad 2 new wives and a few friends. (But don't decide the new wives until after filming and let the others be 'friends' - that'll amp up the drama.) There's no reason it couldn't be getting 1.2-1.8 million viewers.

Joanna can stay away from the others- she's too different for them and too young/immature to be on them, especially Beverly Hills. Plus Yolanda, I don't think, will be returning next season. She seems to be doing a bit of rehab on her image so she can go out with her reputation in tact. (See her WWHL appearance) although, I think it's more David's idea though- he can see the mud slinging coming their way and wants out. Very smart move.

I think Beverly Hills needs to fire it's producers. Although ratings did climb for the last episode.

Just caught up on last 2 eps of OC on itv2. Absolutely LOVE this franchise; to me, the original and the best.
Vicki makes it for me! She's my all time favourite HW now - (even though Ramona's return in NY Season 6 may challenge that )


As for rumours that Ramona may become single: lock up your husbands and sons Ramona + Sonja would be on the prowl! Hilarious! NYC my 2nd favourite franchise

How do people think OC will go with the huge cast change though? Will it suffer or be better without Gretchen/Alexis/Lydia??

Quite shocked to hear about Ramona and Mario tbh but this just goes to show reality TV is not good for your marriage if you have hidden problems because it makes them become bigger then eventually leads to a messy breakup which this might be if reports are to go by about police being called. Press will start soon for NYC S6 so I wonder how ramona will address it.

Im on S5 now and Im really liking Carole she seems so down to earth Aviva I like BUT looks like she turns against Ramona and Sonja which i might have a problem with since those two are my favourites.

I think it will improve the OC. Gretchen had to go, 4/5 seasons of her vs vicki and Tamra was enough. She had to go or they did and her storyline was at a conclusion so it was the best way. Although, it was sad she went out on a bad note after being a big part of the show and one of the most popular for 5 seasons.

Alexis, I liked but she wasn't up for bringing any drama and had made peace with everyone so, again, it was the best way. It meant she could leave on a high and not come back and be boring.

I liked Lydia but she didn't really bring much. She's too sweet. Her absence won't really be noticed much.

The success of the new season really depends on the new wives picked. Really, they need to be able to go up against Vicki, Tamra & heather and not be intimidated for it to work. I have high hopes though.

What's happening with 'ladies of London'?

There's a girl on Celebrity Big Brother, Luisa - she was from The Apprentice - I think she'd be a good fit for a London based housewives show.

I can't wait for Season 9 of the OC. Season 8 was the first one I got into properly and I loved it. I've been rewatching it all again on ITV2.

Apparently Alexis wasn't asked back after Season 7 but producers asked her back when they couldn't find a new replacement. I think she was the real winner of Season 8 though - she left the show with her head held high and on good terms with everyone again. Even Jim got a respectable exit!

Lydia, I found to be quite refreshing and constantly upbeat (and called Slade a tool and douchebag! ) but she was clearly out of her depth when it came to the reunion. She could handle Heather and her ''princess'' attitude but she couldn't deal with the very intense atmosphere surrounding Brianna, Brooks and Vicki. I think she made the right decision not to return for the sake of her nerves.

I was really surprised to hear Gretchen isn't returning. Out of everyone she probably had the strongest storyline to carry into Season 9 with planning a wedding, starting a family etc. Plus her relationships with all the girls seemed to be left completely open-ended and in a weird place. Or perhaps producers realised there would never be any resolve to her cheating rumours from the past and decided to drop her and the story altogether. But maybe I just prefer the stories to be concluded properly though. Every Housewife pitches potential storylines to producers so they can be asked back for the next season so perhaps Bravo execs also weren't interested in covering a Slade/Gretchen wedding. 2013 was a big year for Housewives getting hitched - Tamra, Nene, Joanna and Adrianna. Maybe the network didn't overkill on the subject of weddings?

It's the Season 4 syndrome that made New York and Atlanta tiresome bitch fests also.

At the point where there is no going back, relationships and rivalries have been defined and they fester become melting pots of bitterness which stops being fun. Particularly with the original cast.

I do think a cast shake-up would be good, not necessarily the entire cast though. But I do think they need to do a New York and jettison one of their big two characters. New York had got to the point where either Jill or Ramona had to go because their issues which never moved forward just dominated the show far too much and affected everything.

And I think the same can be said of Lisa and Kyle. Yes I know Brandi is the one that causes the controversy and yes I think it's time for her to go now but Lisa and Kyle are still the two most dominating presence on the show and I think 80% of the bad blood involving everyone stems from Lisa vs Kyle. Their rivalry started I think way back in season 1 when Kyle got really close to Taylor which put Lisa's nose out and out of that the problems grew and grew. Their rivalry isn't a shouty shouty one like Ramona and Jill more a quiet, passive aggressive one however I do think that is where a lot of the bitterness grows from and it leaves it's fingerprints across the entire show involving everyone. And I do think it is a feud just stuck in that one place never moving forward.

So which one of the two should go? I think probably Lisa (who can go off and enjoy Vanderpump Rule's success) because out of the two I think Kyle would be more open to a fresh start where Lisa would just transfer the bitterness towards someone else.

I would also keep Yolanda and Joyce. I have really enjoyed Yolanda this season and think she is more confident and has come into her own, unfortunately she is too often an appendage to Brandi. I'd like to see her given a chance with a new cast dynamic once all the bad blood that developed way before she got there has gone. The same with Joyce who I think is really throwing herself into the show but once again it's clouded by the issues that were already there. Carlton I couldn't care less about so can go. Kim I do love and think she's providing this season with some much welcome lighthearted relief but with a cast revamp hopefully bringing the lighthearted back her asides might not serve much point.