Keep in mind she's the executive producer of her spin-off show Vanderpump Rules. I think that quick scene of her telling Brandi to talk to Scheana about her engagement is exactly the kind of thing that actually goes on behind the scenes of these shows - producers asking the cast to initiate conversations. That's all very well and good if you signed up for the show and you're getting paid but Brandi and the others get nothing for any appearances they make in Vanderpump Rules. Thinking about it, you can kind of understand where Brandi might be coming from when a friend wants to use your marriage break-up to boost her reality show - and boost the mistress' storyline in her show...

So, I pretty much agree with all the comments above. In this situation I'm totally Team Lisa.

The latest ep was pretty decent actually, Kyle looked a total fool after fawning all over Brandi and saying how manipulative Lisa is, whilst in the other scene Lisa is defending Kyle to that psycho Carlton. Kyle, take a seat.

Brandi can join Kyle. I used to love Brandi (and I do still more or less enjoy watching her) but my God the woman can take NO responsibility for her actions. Basically poor old Brandi is just SO easily manipulated and Lisa plays on that, so really its Lisa's fault that Brandi cant stop her mouth from running away from her. Whatever. Oh and I also agree that Brandi does not want Lisa and Kyle getting friendly again. She is fuming about that!

The one thing in all this is that I am actually interested to see how all this goes down with Lisa and Brandi.

Moving onto AtlantaI just have one thing to say, and that is to Cynthia, Ooh messy boots hunni, messy boots! Cynthia is taking lessons from the Nene Leakes school, and it doesn't suit her!

I didn't enjoy Kandi getting all ratchet, but I see why she did. The way Peter was stepping up to her like he was about to start something, and then Mal pushing her. Id have flipped to. But at least Kandi had the decency to be shame faced the next day and apologise to everyone. You cant say that for the rest of them!

Nene was just thoroughly nasty this ep. Kenya is right, all the blame for that fight is being put on her, and that's not right. Nene created the tension in that room and instigated it all. Nene's ego knows no bounds and none of the other women will stand up to her, Kenya is the only one who doesn't care about telling it straight to her.

Well it's more understandable than Lisa's jealousy of Kyle and Taylor's friendship during season 1 and 2.

I think Brandi just finds it strange that Lisa decides she's going to be great friends with Kyle again at the exact same time the press are being extremely sympathetic to Kyle and slaughtering Lisa and Brandi over their attacks regarding the affair rumours. One minute she's using the rumours to dig at Kyle just as much as Brandi, the press call her out and suddenly she's shaking her head and poo pooing these vicious rumours as if it was only really Brandi who was forcing them.

It's very telling that in the aftermath Kyle has built a friendship with Brandi and not Lisa. TV shows can manipulate the viewer, not so much the people involved.

That flashback to Ken telling Roscio she's privileged really went along with his patronising comment last week about Lisa dresses him, he dresses Giggy and Giggy dresses Roscio. I really wanna know how much that poor woman is earning as a maid to put up with Ken.

I agree. I don't get the Team Lisa brigade how when she has pulled so much dirty crap the past few seasons and they want to pin all the blame on Brandi and it doesn't wash with me. There's a reason Lisa has so no friends from all the past seasons of the show and I doubt it's all because of everyone else like some want to believe. It's funny seeing the same people who loved her 'refreshing attitude' last season turn on her now she's spoken against Lisa, have a seat.

How strange was the comment about Cedric being deported to France? It sounded like Lisa had something to do with it.

I don't get the over-reactions to what Kyle said either. She didn't go off on one about Lisa but just called it as she seen it - and as a lot of people see it. Lisa had no option but to defend Kyle or she would have looked like a complete idiot. If anything, Kyle just revealed what a giant phoney Lisa is and how she tried to use her when she lost Brandi.

Brandi on the other hand needs to take responsibility for her actions - no one made her do anything. On the same side, so does Lisa. She knew exactly what she was doing by revealing information to Brandi. Brandi also just let us know what most knew as well, 'when the tough get's going...so does Lisa'. She's a fickle friend.


I noticed he was quite mean to/about her back when it first aired. They really don't seem good to her. Even when Lisa asked her for tea this episode, she never asked politely. Watch the difference between the way Lisa spoke to Roscio and the way Yolanda spoke to Mohammed's man. Huge difference.

Also, has anyone seen Lisa and Ken on twitter throwing around the word slander and insinuating they'll sue Radar Online? Quite hypocritical considering they called Paul and Adrienne litigious.

I still think Lisa is behind all the Radar stories. Every time she has a fight with someone the next day there's a story trashing them on Radar - it's not a coincidence, maybe Adrienne was right. And then whenever people catch on she has these Twitter outbursts at them to cover it up. Seems a little strange.

Nice to know that she's sticking by her advice to Kyle about ignoring all stories that aren't true...

I only really like Kyle & Kim this season. I liked Joyce but her bravo blog this week really put me off her. It's like a Lisa fan tribute page. Shame, I thought she had more of her own zing than that.

Vanderpump Rules once again beats RHOBH in the ratings! (2.2m vs 1.9m).

Also, does anyone know if there's a White Party episode this season?

Shocking When a spin off does better then then the main show...its bad. Bravo will be making changes next season for sure. Lisa won't be going anywhere unless she decides herself she does not want to come back.

Brandi's only real criticism against Lisa this episode was basically "I am too stupid to stop myself from being manipulated by someone smarter than I am". She even said herself that Lisa never put any actual words into her mouth, but yet Brandi doesn't seem to be able to take responsibility for what comes out of her own mouth. If it wasn't for Lisa, I doubt Brandi would have been made a housewife in the first place. She had shredded her relationships with Kyle, Kim, and Taylor. The only two she got along with was Camille and Adrienne and we all know what happened there!

It just seems like Lisa is the go to person for them to create a bit of drama on the show. They all seem very willing to say things at the reunion or in their speaking heads. But when it comes to saying it to Lisa's face, they don't seem to have the guts to say what they feel.

I just rewatched the New York housewives' trip to Morocco back in Season 4. It's that classic episode with the bucking camel that wants to shake LuAnn off its back, Cindy still having a fit over Sonja's 'pecking order' comments from earlier in the season, and Jill and Ramona's big blow-out.

What's interesting is that they were at a party in which a psychic told Ramona that there's another woman in Mario's life. In light in recent stories coming out about their marriage and subsequent separation, it's quite bizarre. Funnily enough, it's Sonja who has the biggest reaction to the whole thing by breaking down. She even says ''What if Mario leaves after Avery goes off to college or something?'' Avery, of course, went off to college only a few months ago.

Agreed of all the staff Roscio seems to be treated the worst. Even when Joyce dropped in to Lisa she was nicer to Roscio than Lisa and Ken ever are. Their attitude towards her really turns me off them as unlike the show is hardly likely thats all put on for TV.

Lisa didn't get Brandi on the show, that's ludicrous. What got Brandi on the show was the drama she brought during season 2 and Camilles season 3 exit. During season 2 Lisa & Brandi had little exchanges between them. It's already been known that one of the producers knew Brandi and introduced her to the rest of the producers and it went from their. Lisa had nothing to do with it.

In the reunion is to someones face, isn't that the whole point of the reunion? If people said every single thing to someones face they'd be called a trouble maker etc. (see Kenya Moore). I disagree with saying them all, Kim had no problem telling Lisa how she felt, neither did Taylor, Camille & Adrienne in the past or Joyce this season . And if stories are true Brandi & Yolanda tell her to her face as well. Carlton hasn't had a problem with her as of yet. Kyle is the only one not being forthright with her but it looks like that changes next week...when has Lisa said anything to anyone's face though? I'd say around 90% of Lisa's scenes this season has been her talking about people behind their backs, mainly Kyle.

It was Brandi's relationship with Lisa and Ken that endeared her to me and many others previously. She just seems so desperate for attention now, that she'll say anything against anyone for a chance of the spotlight finding her. Lisa has been nothing but kind and generous to Brandi, yet she still feels the need to back stab her in this way. It shows how truly low rent she is. Maybe Brandi was sleeping with someone from production and that would explain why she made it to full cast mate, because nothing in her private life screams "Beverly hills housewife". The only reason she is now getting pally with Kyle is because she knows Kyle has had issues with Lisa in the past. YoYAWNda is getting in on the act now as well, trying o cause a fuss over Lisa having a party on the same night as her step daughters wedding. Another housewife who is grasping as straws trying to find some relevant story line in the show.

It's funny seeing the same people who loved her 'refreshing attitude' last season turn on her now she's spoken against Lisa, have a seat.

The reason I have gone off Brandi has nothing to do with the fact that she has 'spoken against Lisa' and everything to do with the fact that she is generally vile. Joking about molestation, the racial remarks and the way she has treated and continues to treat Joyce show her to be a nasty piece of work.

I liked Joyce but her bravo blog this week really put me off her. It's like a Lisa fan tribute page. Shame, I thought she had more of her own zing than that.

So you no longer like Joyce because she likes Lisa?

As for all the comments about the way Ken and Lisa treat their maid, let's be clear, she is a maid in Beverly Hills and will therefore certainly not be paid a pittance, so Ken was right, she is not in need of Lisa's old dresses.

Im still a fan of Lisa yeah she can be catty but i dont find her offensive if anything i laugh maybe i shouldn't but i do

I have gone of Brandi this season i loved her in S2 then S3 came i felt for her but then this season I just have lost all respect for her not just because of what she is doing to Lisa but her whole attitude towards everyone and even the way she acts of the show.


I cant wait for NYC to start i know i only just finished that show but I love NYC theres just something different about from the others and cant wait for some turtle time

Totally agree. Sometimes I think 'Wow Lisa, that was really shady', but if anything it makes me like her even more.
Apparently there is a 30 minute preview of NY tonight on Bravo, does anyone know if these previews are usually uploaded to the usual sites as I wanna watch?

I'm unsure if they will but I hope they do, I'm so ready for NY!


No. I don't no longer like her, it's just put me off her a bit because before I really championed her but her blog is 99% about Lisa and being pro-Lisa. I was just disappointed that she chose to big-up Lisa through the whole thing rather than discuss events from a fair point of view which is what she usually does.

I don't think it was about what he said but more how he said it. Whether she gets paid well or not she's still a human and deserves to be treated with respect. However, what he said about Gigi dressing her was wrong, it insinuated that she was lower than a dog. The way Lisa asked her for tea and has ordered her around is quite appalling - paid or not they should still be polite.

Regarding the first bit that's fair enough. However, she was vile last season also. Maybe you didn't see it but it was happening. Lisa was just as bad as Brandi to Joyce in the beginning. She was dismissive to her and encouraged a lot of Brandi's behaviour. Also, I don't get how Brandi's treatment of Joyce would put you off her when she was far far worse to Adrienne last season. Anyway, my original statement was aimed at people's only problem with Brandi being that was supposedly mean to Lisa.

Man, I can't wait for Beverly Hills to finish. This season has been lame. Miami's last season was better! For me, the only thing worth watching this season has been Kim's TH.

I didn't like the way she treated Adrienne last year, that was completely out of order and that was the beginning of the end for me with Brandi, although I could still appreciate her humour in some ways. I totally agree with you about it not being able to wait for this season to all being over though, as it is crap this year. Anyone know how many episodes it's got left? What replaces BH, NY or NJ?
OT, I have tried to watch that Vanderpump Rules and that is the trashiest show I have ever seen. Whilst BH is not good this year, how that has better ratings is beyond me. I watch loads of trash tv but I can't watch any more of that lol.

I don't know what to think about BH, Lisa came across so selfish and arrogant last season. I really liked Brandi's and Kyle's heart-to-heart during their workout.

Today, Bravo airs a "First Look Special" for the new RHONY season. Before that, they will broadcast a ranking show called "Bravo's Top Ten Dinners from Hell". Hopefully, I can find those two online at some point.

ITV is launching a new channel called ITVBe, and this will be the new UK home of "Real Housewives". http://www.itv.com/presscentre/press...e#.UvuyCfaBo6V

Neither of those two, NY will be airing on Tuesdays and NJ (if they keep the same schedule as last year) will be airing on Sundays. I think OC replaced BH last year around the beginning of April, but OC is still taping so I don't know about that. Maybe they'll finally start Ladies of London (repackaged as the Real Housewives of London) and put it on Mondays. Would make sense.

I'm the same, I have majorly gone off Brandi this year (and I was a HUGE fan in seasons 2 and 3) but its not because of the Lisa thing. Its just the total trashbox way that she is, coupled with the things she says and her general attitude that has gone seriously South. Its put me off. At the same time though I do still find her amusing and she does crack me up sometimes- whether she should or not

Lisa I love, I always have. For me she's the best thing about Beverly Hills in all honesty, Yes she can be catty, and I love that she's a bit shady. But I find her endlessly funny, she doesn't care really what the others think of her. She has a similar sense of humour to me, not sure if that's a good or a bad thing!

Each to their own though, that's the beauty of the "Housewives" we all have our faves, and what I love about one person might be the thing that someone else hates. It would be boring if we all shared the same opinions on them.

I cant wait for Beverly Hills to be over either. This season has been a real non starter. At least we have NYC to look forward to, I want to get a hold of the 30min preview as well. I'm so ready to catch up with these ladies again, cant believe how long its been.

Vanderpump Rules- I struggled through Season 1. Its trash, but I just didn't find it enjoyable. I didn't like a single one of them, and even Lisa couldn't save it for me. I haven't bothered with Season 2, but it says something when its rating higher than BH Housewives!

I just want to point out the vast difference this thread is compared to other discussions going on on other Housewives websites, blogs etc. It's as if some fans on other sites think they need to recreate the drama in their discussions as if they are actually on these shows!

I don't think I've seen anyone here throw the word ''haters'' around like it was going out of style!

Well I'm not sure, NJ could be coming back a lot sooner than we thought. I'm sure they done some TH filming back in November which indicated (according to Alex Mccord) that it's at least midway through filming. That could be premièring about April time when Beverly Hills finishes. Although OC is scheduled to come back around then too. We could have 3 shows at once!

I just couldn't get into Vanderpump Rules either - I even gave the reunion a try and I just couldn't. They all seems so unlikable. I think it got good rating because of the fights, they always do bring in the rating. With the recent fight in Atlanta smashing in the ratings I fear Bravo could be heading towards pushing for more fights in the show.


I really, really wanted a full camera shot of the view from where they were sitting! So disappointed we never go one.

Is the Dinner Party one all housewives or all Bravo shows? I'm excited either way! The BH dinner party has to be in the top 3.

Is Ladies of London still happening? I haven't heard much on it.

I hope they put the real Housewives on at 9pm if there just going to put it on in the daytime and butcher it with ere sloppy edit then i won't be watching. But if it is after 9pm and they show all the Real housewives from S1 i might watch it

As for Ladies of London is it still happening ?

I also want to know what is going on with Ladies Of London. Wasn't it supposed to be airing last Autumn?
Maybe it was so bad that Bravo decided against it lol. I still think it will be The Real Housewives Of London if it does see the light of day, as it sounds too close to the franchise to be called anything else.
The Real Housewives Of Melbourne starts at the end of the month. The trailer looks a tad cheap but I will give it a go. http://youtu.be/psiY2wGW8g0

Have you ever been to www.lipstickalley.com ? They have all kinds of discussions going on, just look into their "Real Housewives" board. You have to get used to their lingo though, it can be a bit unusual

As for Ladies of London, I haven't heard anything about it in a long time, hope it's still happening.