You mean her modeling and acting career

Yeah, Sonja will be back for S5, along with Luann & Ramona. From what I hear Ramona & Luann have recieved a HUGE pay increase for staying Jill was awful, really awful actually, but she made for great tv. So quite how Luann survived the axe over her Im not sure? Im not sure what the show would lack without the "classless countess" , apart from her telling everyone "how to behave" Its laughable!

Interested to find out more about the 3 new ladies though....no one seems to know much at this point.

Its so bad that ITV2 arent showing anymore Real Housewives after NY finished......I hope we can keep this thread going though, its nice to have somewhere to discuss the US pace housewives aswell

Ooh, tally, Did you manage to find Atlanta ep 2 by the way?

I cant find this weeks BH anywhere yet! Its so annoying, Im looking forward to seeing this tea party fiasco

Ooh, I meant to say in my above post, Did anyone see that Kim from Atlanta has officially gotten her own spin-off show? Its called "Dont be tardy for the wedding" and is following her through her wedding prep, and, Im assuming the wedding itself.

They clearly thought long & hard about that title didnt they?!

Have to agree with tally, the dress is terrible! It really does make Princess Di & her 80s meringue look simple & elegant by comparison!

Im sure I read somewhere Kim was going for a "southern belle, Scarlett O'Hara" type vibe with the dress. Hmm......yeah lol

The dresses are on the Daily Mail site. Well, two dresses and a backless jumpsuit. It looks like panto season has started early.

Yup, I found it through Blinx. Korey seems a sweetheart, how on earth did Kim ( who is a trashy golddigger) bag him? I still cant believe her age is real. She looks at least a decade older. This seems a much better season though it's early days.

Apparently they're doing a special on Kim's wedding. I didn't realise it was only held on November 11th. I just have to watch her try and navigate down the aisle in that monstrosity!!

No joy on BH yet, but it seems to be taking about 5-6 days for anyone to upload them.

http://www.lifeandstylemag.com/2011/...s-wedding.html

One of 3 wedding dresses Kim wore ( What does she think her surname is - Kardashian?)

UGH! UGH! and treble UGH! All of them are awful, but this one takes the gold medal in sheer horrendousness.

He really does seem like a nice guy, Im confused as to what he actually sees in her? And, OMG, dont even start me on her age! I still do not believe she just turned 33?! I know theres been a big thing about her age for years, but really, theres no way she is only 3 years older than I am! lol She looks at least in her 40s!


Yeah, Ive seen those other dresses now The woman has zero taste, I mean, she is a total panto dame! Like tally, ill deffo be tuning in just to see her get down the aisle in that dress, & be amazed that the poor guy she is marrying dosent run screaming! haha


Same, like you say, it seems to be taking ages for them to upload it, so annoying Ive been reading their blogs on the Bravo site & im even more interested to see this tea party drama. From what I can gather, seems to be between Lisa & Taylor, with Camille being dragged into the storm aswell!

Sassy and Tally here's a link to the first part of episode on youtube. The rest of the parts are on the uploaders page. I know it's recorded off a tv but the sound and picture quality are good enough (Well just to watch it)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goC62et4mfE

kimkam, you are a star. Thank you SO much.

Oh dear God, just when I thought I couln't loathe Taylor more, she excels herself in this episode. What a bloody drama queen. Go back to Oklahoma and stop pretending you've got the same manners as Lisa and Adrienne. You're a social climbing idiot with very little brain cells who will do anything to keep the spotlight on you. I so hope it backfires on you. Spectacuarly. In fact I hope she gets the boot for Season 3.

Kyle is a two faced biatch, I know the boyfriend is shady and, I think, still legally married, but back off Kyle. You are her sister, not her jailor.

I really like Camille this series. She talks a lot of sense, which makes her friendship with Alison Dubois, the psychic from hell, even more strange.

Does this series finish with Pandora's wedding? I'm sure I read it somewhere. If so I hope Lisa bans Taylor from a 500m radius of the venue.

Another BIG thank you to kimkam for that!! You are amazing!!


tally, have to agree with all of that! You pretty much said it all

Taylor, I dont even know where to start, I just find her so incredibly false & insincere, & I know Ive talked about Kim being a bit unstable, but I really think Taylor is a step away from a total breakdown. Shes goes on & on about finally "getting it all out there" Umm....?? No, happy to say whatever to take attention away from the real elephant in the room! Also, her conversation at the gates with Paul, she looked crazy!

Camille I really warm to more & more, Kelsey has been awful to her & I really do feel shes handled it all incredibly well. And I hated her last season! THANK GOD she finally took Taylor to task about the state of her marriage & what Russell had been doing to her. Ok, she seems to regret saying it the way she did, but really it had to be said. I understand what Taylor has gone through is awful, & Im not trying to be a bitch, but I just feel theres a part of her that revels in the attention.

Kyle & Kim just confuse me, I dont know what the hell kind of dynamic they have, but I dont get it. Agree with tally, Kims boyfriend does seem kinda shady & honestly, I dont really believe shes happy either, but Kyle seriously needs to let the woman live her own life & not make it all about HER. She goes on and on with the "why dosent she tell me any of this?" well, look at how you act. Hardly a surprise is it?!

Adrienne & Pauls dinner date was sweet though, I love the faces she pulls around him & the way they bicker haha

tally, I thought they might end this season with Pandoras wedding aswell, they seem to usually end on a big "event" & I can see that being perfect for a finale!

RHOBH Episode 11:

So Kim has a boyfriend!! Not sure what to think of him... he seems a little shady. It's weird, but I use to really like Kim but at the moment I've kind of gone of her.

Kyle has redeemed herself now that she's friends with Brandi and applogised.

Camille! You go! She rocks this season. I loved the faces she was pulling whilst Taylor was going of on one at the tea party and how she called her out on all her shit.

Taylor, go back to Oklahoma and take your lips with you. You are annoying and vindictive. I really dislike her as she just seems so fame hungry and attention seeking like. Now don't get me wrong, I do feel for her about her domestic abuse and Russell's suicide or whatever but if she was really that scared of him hitting her, why would she have spent all of season 1 playing on her marriage problems when Russell would eventually see it? I don't claim to know much at all about domestic abuse, but do victims really tell everybody about it? I thought it was something where most people are deeply ashamed and embarrassed about it and often too scared to tell people. I'm not saying she's a liar at all, and there is photographic proof that it happened, but perhaps she's exadurated it a little bit more than what it actually is. I wouldn't be surprised if she hit him too. Just a few thoughts that have gone through my head. I can't say this is definitely what I believe as I'd like to be proven wrong.

I feel for Lisa this season, she really has got the shit stick of editing. Still love her though. And if you're ego is huge because your Ipad wallpaper is of yourself and your dog, then I guess a lot of people will be hastily changing their wallpapers and phone backgrounds!!


Will do episode 12 later as I got to go out

Ooh this thread has gotten quiet hasnt it?! lol

Glad theres still a few of us watching at US pace, its nice to have somewhere to discuss the eps lol

Just caught up with the latest from Atlanta, can I say I really am loving Phaedra more & more, I think shes hilarious the faces she pulls & the little remarks she comes out with are fantastic. I loved when she was talking to Kandi about Peters (Cynthias hubby) brood of kids, and she was like "well I didnt know he was the old man who lived in his shoe" and her "You dont have to sleep with everyone you meet" I think shes great.

Also, the look on her face when Kims dad was trying to drum up some business at the baby shower, its like Ok, smile, take the card, be polite & he will go away!

And the drama at the baby shower, well, I mean you knew it was going to kick off at some point, they cant all be in a room together & not argue about something! For once Kim wasnt in the middle though.....

I really dont like Peter much though, I know he & Apollo both got into it, but I just feel like Peter came to the shower looking for an argument, Apollo was more just defending Phaedra. And Cynthia.....well, she could have tried to reign her hubby in a little no? Im sure I read that interview Peter gave about the housewives & it really was just a bit pathetic really, it just seemed to be him taking shots at them & im not really sure what the point was!

I thought Kims daughter giving her speech was quite funny, her whole "now shes knocked up again. Thanks" was really funny! Kroy really does seem like a lovely guy though, God only knows why he is with Kim! She really has gotten incredibly lucky there!

I think the quote of that ep has to go to Phaedra though "Opinions are like an anus, we all have them".


I havent had a chance to watch ep 12 of BH yet either, so I too shall post my thoughts tomorrow!

Agree with you completely about Lisa though, I love her, but I do feel like she is getting the "make her the bitch" edit this season. I think shes fantastic though. She & Adrienne are by far the best. Also, Camille is fabulous this season aswell. Ive done such a 180 on her. And the way she called out Taylor on all her BS in the last ep, Thank God!

I didn't have much sleep last night plus the tennis is on, so I've got Atlanta Ep3 and BH ep12 to watch. I so glad there's a few of us watching US time. I'd much rather talk to the posters on here, you're all so much nicer than the Americans. They are absolutely vicious and I wont have a word said against Lisa and Adrienne ( or *shock, horror* Camille). She's great this season.

Will report back on my thoughts when my busy schedule allows ( *snort* ,I'm the laziest person ever since my mobility went). I've no doubt it'll be the same as others. Sassy, I think apart from age we're two peas in a pod on our HoWives take.

Oh tally, I couldnt agree more! We do seem to share alot of the same opinions with our take on the Housewives!

Im glad aswell that are still a few of us watching & posting at US pace. Im the same, Ive had a look at the US forums & things before & its all just a bit needlessly vicious in my opinion! And theres only so much sympathy for Taylor I can take!

So, I said Id post my thoughts on BH ep 12 today so heres my 2cents worth!

Taylor- Again, where to begin?! I mean, shes horrendous. I find it irritating just how completely hard done by she acts about the whole tea party thing. I mean, seriously? Camille wasnt in the wrong in the slightest, all she did was be honest & address the huge elephant in the room that nobody spoke about. She wasnt broadcasting any information that the other women werent aware of. It was way overdue for Taylor to be called out on all her crap. And Im glad she did

I have to agree with Adrienne, if Taylor didnt want anyone commenting on her marriage, then maybe she shouldnt go around telling all the other women whats going on in her relationship.

And then there was the birthday party for Kennedy, I mean, shes 5! And surely, someone in her precarious finacial situation should be a little wiser with their money?! I know Russell apparently hid alot of their financial problems from her, but really, their daughter is 5! Though, I have to admit Id still love someone to buy me a horse....... it was gorgeous! haha Ooh but was with her little speech...."Oh Im just a girl from Oklahoma.....living this fab life...." Please. Go back to Oklahoma, at once!

Brandi was around again in this episode, I really like her & I do hope she gets a bit more screen time in the coming eps. And she even tried to apologise to Kim I have to say, it wouldnt have been me, bigger person or not, after everything that had gone Id want nothing to do with them. Kim, of course was being a bitch, & more or less ignored her. I was more shocked that she even bothered to turn up for the party in the first place.......

I used to like Kim last season, but now, I just go off her more & more. She does need help though, whether her issues are medication, in her head, I dont know, but she needs a proper reality ckeck.....and that boyfriend.....really dont see that ending well! I did like Brandis little comment, "well, Kim cant even speak for herself, so......." lol

Still cant really take to Dana though, I dont suppose Ive seen enough of her to judge, but she just seems a bit.....tryhard? I dont know. Ill reserve judgement for now!

And Kevin the wedding planner! Hes so hilariously OTT I love it! If I happen to get a ring on it anytime soon......(hint, hint to my guy) Im hiring Kevin for my wedding! some of those sample invitations were great though, way too much, but great! except the scroll thing.....not sure Id be impressed by that if I had it delivered to me.....ridiculously silly though!

Lisa not using The Palms for Pandoras bachelorette party, I thought that might cause an issue with Adrienne, as soon as I heard Lisa say they were having it at Planet Holywood I thought there might be a problem!

Are Bio sky156 repeating Miami housewives from the beginning again???

Yes, they are showing it right now.

I know its a daft question but hey here goes !

Why??

LOL Someone had to say it! Shamefully I was going through some of my umpteen DVD's I've made and have kept the series. I'll never watch it again, so Why?

I think it goes against my beliefs not to back up anything on my hardrive.

Sassy, I've watched BH finally, agree with all you said. They're so broke and up to their necks in shady deals that Kennedy gets a birthday party that cost squillions and would put the Beckham's outings to shame.
The kid is 5 ffs, but it wasn't about her it was about stupid Taylor and her late husand. (I would be rude, but my Mother told me not to speak ill of the dead).
If I was Brandi I'd have said a few choice words to Kim the entitled before flouncing off as dramatically as I can. I suppose Paris Hilton didn't stand a chance with a family like hers. Kathy is supposed to be 100x worse than Kim and Kyle, but with sanity.

Oh heck, I hope Adrienne and Lisa dont fall out over Pandora's Bacherlorette venue, I love those two.

Martin Short did a wonderful acting job in Father of The Bride Kevin is his doppelganger. Mavellous OTT campness there.

I was hoping to watch Atlanta but I cant keep my eyes open so it'll have to wait.

haha They really did mess up with Miami didnt they?! By far the least interesting of the Housewives shows. Mind you, it only had like 6 or 7 eps didnt it? It never got the chance to go anywhere. I really wanted to like the Miami one, I spent my last b-day in Miami & had an amazing time!!

The reunion was quite good though, it was filmed Live I think & they all just seemed to let rip at each other.

And that Elsa woman still scares the life out of me! OMG plastic surgery gone SO wrong!

Im interested to hear what they are gonna do for season 2 though, they need to get rid of most of the ladies I think & start fresh, or only keep a couple from season 1. I think if they get it right it could work better, Miami is pretty perfect for a housewives show, and its full of women perfect for a housewives show aswell! haha


Agreed tally, everything Miss "Im so false it kills" Taylor does is all about Taylor. No doubt on that!

I can absolutely see where Paris Hilton gets it from now....and if her mother is anything like Kyle & Kim......

I hope Lisa & Adrienne dont fall out either, though I have a feeling whatever happens Lisa will get the less than flattering edit. I think the producers are deffo being very selective on how they edit Lisa this season!

OMG yes! Kevin really is a "Fraank" from Father of the Bride isnt he?! Absolutely brilliant! I love watching his scenes with Lisa.

Marysol explains why it was a flop

http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...ts-a-flop.html

I think Miami does have a lot of potential and would like to see it back but I could understand if Bravo didn't renew it.

Where to start on RHOBH though? That tea party was intense! I do sympathise for Taylor watching these scenes as she was obviously going through a tough time with Russell but her behavior was shocking. She really had it in for Lisa and to actually attack Lisa like that in her own home was very bad mannered. However many times she said "I've tried since we met to be your friend" I didn't believe it for one second but was what was even more bizarre was how quickly they 'resolved' it. I was exactly like Kyle in that "That's it?". Andy Cohen has said though it's interesting to watch Lisa and Taylors friendship develop through the season. I was sad to see Lisa being wrongly attacked in her own home when I think she did have the best intentions and said it in the best possible way she could and for Taylor to take that and twist it was wrong. You could tell she was frustrated when Adrienne was lecturing her. I do like Adrienne but she going to get sore from sitting on that fence all day. Taylor was in the wrong and needed to be told so. Camille also really shocked me as I never would of thought she would of done that. It took guts to say that on camera and I could understand why she felt bad but someone needed to say it for Taylor and Kennedy's sake. Go Camille! lol (Did anyone think it was funny how they were all skirting around the fact that it wasn't about what Camille had said but said it on camera that was the issue for Taylor)

Kim is getting on my nerves this season after initially liking her at the start. Who does she think she is? Brandi was just trying to be civil. They were at a 5 year olds party what did she think Brandi would do? Like Lisa said 'Why do they even bother with Kim anymore?'
It was great to see Kevin the party planner again, he's hysterical I hope Adrienne and Lisa can get past this little quarrel. I can see both sides on this issue as Adrienne has helped bring business to Lisa in the past and obviously it would be kind for Lisa to return the gesture and obviously it her daughters bachelorette party and she can have it wherever she wants and was in fact being thrown by another family friend. I guess it's difficult when all your friends own hotels/casinos

I don't really have much to say about RHOA except I despise Kim and Sheree. They way they were talking about Cynthia was awful when Cynthia is the last person in the group to start a fight and if they had problems with Peter they should talk to him or Cynthia at least. But 5 hours late was ridiculous. I bet they never wish they bothered now

I didn't know there was a thread about TRH. I only recently got into it having watched the RHONY reunion with Andy Cohen on ITV2 I think. I was hooked and wondered what all the fuss was about and I've been watching it ever since. I love the New York housewives. Ramona is nuts but makes fantastic television. Jill is a delusional bully, along with the worst snob I think I've ever come across in the count-less Luann. Bethenny was by far the best housewife and the series grew a lot more toxic without her presence. I actually grew to really like Alex and Simon too, having initially thought they were both mental social climbers, I know think they are the only sane people on the show and it;s a shame they won't be back. As for Kelly. What can you say other than "cookoo".

I've moved on to the RHONJ now and I am in utter disbelief with the whole set up. I used to loathe Danielle but having seen the way the Manzo clan treat certain people they don't like I think the whole lot of them are bully's and I'm quite proud of Danielle for taking them on, especially that spoilt brat Ashley. Caroline's response to Ashley pulling Danielle's hair out was "she's been out to get us all along". Incredible how Danielle can muster up the power to force someone else to pull her hair out behind her own back! Caroline is as vile as the sky is blue and no wonder her sister and brother don't speak to or have any contact with her any more. They all keep going on and on and on about Danielle and then say "why won't she just go from our lives?", yet it's clearly them who have the problem with her, not the other way around.

Join the clan, sooty-soo. I think we're all in agreement on our opinions of the "ladies" (actually I could count on the fingers of one hand just how many throughout the franchise ARE ladies!) I'm struggling to think past Lisa, Camille and Adrienne.

Turning up 5 hours late was just not on. I think Cynthia is blah and dont like Peter, but Kim, NeNe, Sheree and Phaedra all get up my nose. Atlanta is my least favourite -after Miami, I only watch for the train wrecks that are Kim and Nene's squabbles.

At least it'll be worth staying with this season, just for Kim's trashy wedding and the gowns What monstrosities will her poor girls get put into? I must google and see if there's any pictures online.

And BINGO! Sheesh! Age appropriate? Much? They look like bacofoil ornaments!

http://www.wetpaint.com/real-housewi...at-her-wedding

While Mama Kim resembles a porn version of Marie-Antoinette. Check out those boobs

Yeah, Hello to sootysoo!! Nice to have another housewives fan here.

Again, tally you got it spot on with Kim (Atlanta), she is a porno version of Marie Antoinette
Apparently she was going for a Scarlett O'Hara, southern belle vibe. Admittedly, been years since I watched Gone with the Wind, but I dont remember it like that.......

And I cant even think of what to say about her poor girls in those "creations", they seem like nice kids, at least they didnt choose those dresses I guess, they have Kim written all over them.....