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can someone message me a link for this weeks BH my usual place has nothing
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I know that when I post here tend to get no response but I thought I would post this here anyway on the off chance that I am not being ignored.
For those of us in the UK RHONJ season 4 is starting on ITV2 this Friday (7th March) at 4.10pm. Also, I hear that Nene is taking part in the latest season of Dancing with the stars. I know that Lisa is it a few season ago and is still part of RHOBH but can/will Nene still do both? http://www.tvguide.com/News/Dancing-...t-1078825.aspx |
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I know that when I post here tend to get no response but I thought I would post this here anyway on the off chance that I am not being ignored.
For those of us in the UK RHONJ season 4 is starting on ITV2 this Friday (7th March) at 4.10pm. Also, I hear that Nene is taking part in the latest season of Dancing with the stars. I know that Lisa is it a few season ago and is still part of RHOBH but can/will Nene still do both? http://www.tvguide.com/News/Dancing-...t-1078825.aspx ![]() Just watched BH and thank god next week is the last one. This season has been so disjointed and it all seems a bit fake to me. I'm not saying Lisa did or didn't do what she is accused of, but what shocks me the most is that Kyle and Mauricio just accepted what Brandi said as being fact. Gigi and Kimberly going to college, Euurrghh, sorry, not interested, although Kimberly's dad is a hottie. Next week we finally get the 'checkmate bitch' quote from Brandi, then onto the reunion which I am hoping will kind of save this series, but i'm doubtful. |
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Hi, I don't think Nene being on DWTS will affect RHOA as if she does another season, that won't start filming until around June time. Brave of ABC in America to have a same sex couple on the show though
![]() Just watched BH and thank god next week is the last one. This season has been so disjointed and it all seems a bit fake to me. I'm not saying Lisa did or didn't do what she is accused of, but what shocks me the most is that Kyle and Mauricio just accepted what Brandi said as being fact. Gigi and Kimberly going to college, Euurrghh, sorry, not interested, although Kimberly's dad is a hottie. Next week we finally get the 'checkmate bitch' quote from Brandi, then onto the reunion which I am hoping will kind of save this series, but i'm doubtful. |
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Can you message me a link for where you watched it
Also, does anyone else think that this may be Lisa's final season. There is something that feels kinda final about the preview for the next episode. I know she was filming something for Bravo yesterday with Melissa G, Sonja and Vicky, but it could just be for VR as that is coming back for another season. I could only handle 2 episodes of that show as it's terrible, but I wouldn't be surprised if the new PUMP bar they are opening gets another spin off due to the success of VR. |
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Done, check your messages.
Also, does anyone else think that this may be Lisa's final season. There is something that feels kinda final about the preview for the next episode. I know she was filming something for Bravo yesterday with Melissa G, Sonja and Vicky, but it could just be for VR as that is coming back for another season. I could only handle 2 episodes of that show as it's terrible, but I wouldn't be surprised if the new PUMP bar they are opening gets another spin off due to the success of VR. As for BH i was so bored of Yawn'Landa and Kim yes your kids are going to college...I blame bravo for dragging this out for so long, how many episodes have we heard them both go on about moving. I really hated Yolanda this episode though i found her such a rude B*tch and it confirmed for me that she is glad this whole Lisa fallout is happening the way she was talking about Lisa to Brandi over the phone. I cant get over how Kyle is believing Brandi... Carlton even confirmed she never saw Lisa with the magazine! And why is Kyle not questioning Brandi on why she had the magazines at her house in the first place cause Brandi obviously went and got them! I dont see Lisa returning next season either and i dont blame her but i think her leaving would leave a massive dent in the show. Lisa doesn't need BH though she has VP rules and I'm sure she will get another few seasons out of that. But I tell you now I dont think i will be able to watch the show if its Brandi and Yolanda going against everyone cause thats will happen until Brandi gets bored of Yolanda and she then drops her like she did Lisa. I do think Bravo will do there best to keep Lisa and this show needs Camille back and even Taylor! seeing her in the episode made realise i actually miss her
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For those of us in the UK RHONJ season 4 is starting on ITV2 this Friday (7th March) at 4.10pm.
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I know she was filming something for Bravo yesterday with Melissa G, Sonja and Vicky... |
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I cant get over how Kyle is believing Brandi... Carlton even confirmed she never saw Lisa with the magazine! And why is Kyle not questioning Brandi on why she had the magazines at her house in the first place cause Brandi obviously went and got them! If Lisa had any shred of dignity she'd have just admitted she has pulled some dirty crap and say she messed up, it's the constant denial and victim playing that annoys people. Also, can someone tell her to stop with the inch long eyelashes, they look ridiculous, as they do on most women her age. I loved this episode. It was old school Beverly Hills and had none of the BS. It was fun and dealt with real life issues that women of that age do deal with. (i.e. the daughters leaving, ear piercing trips etc.) I loved seeing them all have fun in PR. Very strange how that's the second trip Lisa has left and it's became more fun after she's gone. I'm glad Carlton wasn't there, can she be gone already? I think it's such a testament to Kims character how much her children adore her and how well she gets on with her exes. She seems super close with them all. LOL at her packing all that stuff, you could tell John thought she was insane. I felt like they should have called this episode Finale: Part 1. because it wrapped up some of the storylines, like the first half of the finale usually deals with. I think they were testing the waters with Taylor in that scene and the reaction (on some blogs I read & Twitter) seemed pretty positive about it. Why else would they have included a scene with her right at the end of the season when she's been vacant for all but one scene at the beginning? I'd definitely say the last 2 episodes have began making up for this season. I hope the finale and the 3 part reunion make up for it! I wouldn't be sad to see Lisa go, I think she's the source of a lot of the negativity on the show, and has been since season 2. In fact, ever since Taylor never invited her to an event way back in season 2 she's been like that and I'm tired of it. I'd like to see Kyle, Kim, Joyce (I love their interactions with one-another), Brandi, Camille & Taylor. I'd want Yolanda demoted and Carlton gone. They need more friends of the show to spice it up, Adrienne is rumored for a return as well which I'd like, but only as a friend. I really want to see Brandi go at it with Camille - that will be insane TV. I think those 6 would mesh well because they get along but also all bring the drama. I'd maybe add the Baroness that was rumored last season but I hate odd numbered couches at reunions, it throws the balance off. Overall, the producers are to blame for this mess of a season, not the cast. I'm over Atlanta now as well, the break has just ruined all the momentum. It's not even like they are having a double to make up for it. Reunion, please. |
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I dont see Lisa returning next season either and i dont blame her but i think her leaving would leave a massive dent in the show. Lisa doesn't need BH though she has VP rules and I'm sure she will get another few seasons out of that. But I tell you now I dont think i will be able to watch the show if its Brandi and Yolanda going against everyone cause thats will happen until Brandi gets bored of Yolanda and she then drops her like she did Lisa. I do think Bravo will do there best to keep Lisa and this show needs Camille back and even Taylor! seeing her in the episode made realise i actually miss her
![]() [/b]Adrienne is rumored for a return as well which I'd like, but only as a friend[/b] I would be very surprised to see Adrienne ever back on the show after Season 3 and the way she was a no show for the reunion. Personally I don't miss her at all. I always thought that for a woman with so much money, she looked like a hooker. |
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Unless they get Camille and Taylor back then sorry but no new HW will save BH if Lisa leaves then i cant see the show doing any better Lisa is Beverly Hills like teresa is NJ, and Bravo should learn from the mistake of getting Carlton and Joyce we dont want NEW HW and NW's won't save the show either bring back originals or this show is going to flop even harder next season.
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Season 4 of NJ has never been shown on UK television before, has it?
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Lisa is Beverly Hills like teresa is NJ.
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Thank you ITV2 for showing NJ Series 4 ( I had wondered whether Lifetime were going to show it at some point as they ran several of the RH first).
I have never seen NJ Season 4 before either as only watch RH on UK channels. I am so looking forward to it.
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Same here, I only see the shows on UK telly so am really grateful for the heads up. Thanks
![]() I don't post much these days as am always so far behind but just finished OC and: Still dislike Vicky (more than ever) or her shouty, self-important tantrums, ditto Tamra although I had hope when she was nice at times but she still is nasty. Heather is snotty but tolerable, Gretchen is a bit pointless these days. Alexis I don't mind, she's the least offensive. Can't remember the new girl lol, the one with fairy dust for a mother but she was surprisingly frank when needed if a little unable to move on... Brianna and Ryan were a little odd but maybe a product of Vicky..... Brooks makes me want to hurl! I'd like more Miami. Not seen a NY series in aaaages but can't bear Ramona and her drama all over the press (Vicky mkII). Hate Altanta but plodding through S2 in the absence of other eye bleeders lol. NJ - Teresa and Joe and their family fights bore me witless, I preferred Jac and co but gather they have gone down in people's estimation in more recent series. I can se from Friday! Time warp over, back to you guys who are more up to date than I ![]()
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That's how I see it too. Looking at the blogs and polls, Lisa is by far the most popular housewife on Beverly Hills and one of my favourites. Don't get me wrong, I don't think she sh!ts out golden eggs and don't agree with her all the time, especially lately on twitter where she is milking the victim card for all it's worth, but if she goes the ratings will be even further down the toilet.
What just annoys me with all the other women is that Kyle in particular is taking Brandi's side when Brandi called her sister a Meth addict and other things its just confusing she is either just doing it to get at Lisa but i think she actually thinks Brandi is telling the truth. Also why are they not questioning Brandi on why she had the magazines at HER house in the first place Lisa is still popular i think Brandi had hoped it would turn all Lisa's fans against her and she will have nothing left but Lisa is still popular and her spin of is doing better then its Home show so that says something.
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Same here, I only see the shows on UK telly so am really grateful for the heads up. Thanks
![]() I don't post much these days as am always so far behind but just finished OC and: Still dislike Vicky (more than ever) or her shouty, self-important tantrums, ditto Tamra although I had hope when she was nice at times but she still is nasty. Heather is snotty but tolerable, Gretchen is a bit pointless these days. Alexis I don't mind, she's the least offensive. Can't remember the new girl lol, the one with fairy dust for a mother but she was surprisingly frank when needed if a little unable to move on... Brianna and Ryan were a little odd but maybe a product of Vicky..... Brooks makes me want to hurl! I'd like more Miami. Not seen a NY series in aaaages but can't bear Ramona and her drama all over the press (Vicky mkII). Hate Altanta but plodding through S2 in the absence of other eye bleeders lol. NJ - Teresa and Joe and their family fights bore me witless, I preferred Jac and co but gather they have gone down in people's estimation in more recent series. I can se from Friday! Time warp over, back to you guys who are more up to date than I ![]() ![]() NJ - From what we in the UK have seen - I used to really like Teresa in the 1st season but she changed so much in season 2 and 3 - I find her so deluded. I also prefer Jac I also enjoy Kathy. I am looking forward to seeing (if we see that is) what happened between Jac and Teresa to make Jac decide not to do the Season 3 reunion I got into Miami more this second season, the first one seemed very strange to me. I have wondered if we should have a RH UK pace thread like they do with other US shows but was not sure if other UK fans would post in it - we do seem to get a little lost in here. |
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OC - It has only been a few weeks (I think) since the season ended over here so I dont think that you are that far behind. I can not stand Vicky either, it is very much one rule for her and one rule for everyong else. I did think that Tamra had started to be more normal, but when she is round Vicki (or should I say vicki gets her hooks in) she starts to revert back. Also, Ryans argument at Vicky's party I found very strange, he did not seem the same as when he first appeared - I do wonder if there was something going on.
NJ - From what we in the UK have seen - I used to really like Teresa in the 1st season but she changed so much in season 2 and 3 - I find her so deluded. I also prefer Jac I also enjoy Kathy. I am looking forward to seeing (if we see that is) what happened between Jac and Teresa to make Jac decide not to do the Season 3 reunion I got into Miami more this second season, the first one seemed very strange to me. I have wondered if we should have a RH UK pace thread like they do with other US shows but was not sure if other UK fans would post in it - we do seem to get a little lost in here. LOVE Vicky and her pyscho banshee moments, I think Tamra is just rotten to the core and Ryan needs kickin' to the curb!! Something's not as it seems there with him... However, I do agree that Heather is a snob lol!Can't wait for new NY!! Adore Ramona & Sonja together! And the trailer did look SO good! |
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That's how I see it too. Looking at the blogs and polls, Lisa is by far the most popular housewife on Beverly Hills and one of my favourites. Don't get me wrong, I don't think she sh!ts out golden eggs and don't agree with her all the time, especially lately on twitter where she is milking the victim card for all it's worth, but if she goes the ratings will be even further down the toilet.
Quoted for truth! Honestly if Lisa goes (which by the way, I would not blame her) the ratings are going to get worse. I'm totally positive on that. I think Lisa would be a huge loss to the show, and I'm not sure Id be that interested in watching without her. Now, I am firmly "Team Lisa" if you will, but do I think she is some angelic queen sat on high?! Certainly not, and she isn't a "victim" either, I just don't believe that she's some evil manipulator out to control everyone. I am highly confused as to why nobody is asking Brandi why she had the tabloids, at her house, in the first place? Kyle seems more than happy to go along with what Brandi says which also confuses me. Yo is seriously disappointing me as well lately, I've usually always liked her but she is such a sh*t stirrer. I do think this whole backlash against Lisa is backfiring on Brandi, etc, they were clearly hoping for Lisa to look like the bitch, but if anything its just gone to show how petty the rest of them are. I cant wait for this season to be over, glad next week is the finale. I'm hoping the Reunion might perk things up a bit, but I'm not counting on it. Is it a 2 part reunion I assume? For next season? Id LOVE to see Camille back- I still miss her on the show. And I think its just what BH needs as well. There's no way Bravo will get rid of Lisa, but its entirely possible she might decide she has had enough and quit herself. I really hope not. But I wouldn't blame her. Please No to Taylor though. I cant bear the woman and seeing her briefly this week only served to remind me how much I don't miss her at all. Also I think its time for Kim to take a step back, I'm not saying leave the show entirely, I like her, but I think she would work well in a "Friend" role. Kyle is safe, most likely Brandi is as well. I cant decide on Yolanda, axe Carlton for sure, Joyce- she's grown on me, so I don't really mind if she were to stay. I'm looking forward to Atlanta being back on Sun. The break was so annoying though. There cant be that many eps left now surely? time to wrap up the season and get to the Reunion I think. |
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The ratings are going to go down next season with or without Lisa. Although very well liked she's not the Nene or Teresa because they bring the drama, the excitement whereas Lisa doesn't she usually just stirs it and doesn't participate - she's hardly riveting TV unlike Nene & Teresa who get their hands dirty. Also, Nene isn't even HBIC in Atlanta anymore, Kandi has that covered and Kenyas the drama bringer so Nene could go and the ratings wouldn't be bothered. At this point, I'm not even sure if NJ would be effected by Teresa leaving...which about to happen as she has to go to jail for a while. No wive is bigger than the show, not Lisa, not Nene, not Tre, no one.
The ratings are only going to go up if original cast members come back, the viewers have pretty much signaled that we aren't here for new wives. Let Lisa go and replace her with Camille. Bring back Taylor in replacement of Carlton. Demote Yolanda and we have a show. Adrienne even said that she would return if the price was right so lets have her on as a friend. Lets add some friends, preferably wealthy-ish. Has anyone seen Twitter? Lisa is being called out left right and center on her lies. She claimed none of them tried to contact her & Kyle posted messages and said she tried to call Lisa proving she was lying and Joyce (while defending Lisa) let slip in her blog that she also called Lisa. Also, the other week she claimed Brandi & Cedric never met and is now claiming that she didn't know about Brandi until Brandi and Cedric had lunch...which is it? She's so messy at the moment. Sassy The reunion is 3 parts. Theres at least 4 epsiodes of Atlanta left. They go to Mexico, not this upcoming episode but the one after then I'm assuming AT LEAST 2 eps in mexico and one at home, could be more though. |
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I'm looking forward to Atlanta being back on Sun. The break was so annoying though. There cant be that many eps left now surely? time to wrap up the season and get to the Reunion I think.
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The ratings are going to go down next season with or without Lisa. Although very well liked she's not the Nene or Teresa because they bring the drama, the excitement whereas Lisa doesn't she usually just stirs it and doesn't participate - she's hardly riveting TV unlike Nene & Teresa who get their hands dirty. Also, Nene isn't even HBIC in Atlanta anymore, Kandi has that covered and Kenyas the drama bringer so Nene could go and the ratings wouldn't be bothered. At this point, I'm not even sure if NJ would be effected by Teresa leaving...which about to happen as she has to go to jail for a while. No wive is bigger than the show, not Lisa, not Nene, not Tre, no one.
The ratings are only going to go up if original cast members come back, the viewers have pretty much signaled that we aren't here for new wives. Let Lisa go and replace her with Camille. Bring back Taylor in replacement of Carlton. Demote Yolanda and we have a show. Adrienne even said that she would return if the price was right so lets have her on as a friend. Lets add some friends, preferably wealthy-ish. Has anyone seen Twitter? Lisa is being called out left right and center on her lies. She claimed none of them tried to contact her & Kyle posted messages and said she tried to call Lisa proving she was lying and Joyce (while defending Lisa) let slip in her blog that she also called Lisa. Also, the other week she claimed Brandi & Cedric never met and is now claiming that she didn't know about Brandi until Brandi and Cedric had lunch...which is it? She's so messy at the moment. Sassy The reunion is 3 parts. Theres at least 4 epsiodes of Atlanta left. They go to Mexico, not this upcoming episode but the one after then I'm assuming AT LEAST 2 eps in mexico and one at home, could be more though. Im seeing the twitter feud with Lisa, Kyle and Brandi and its just a mess and they are all in the wrong but Kyle just keeps stirring it even more by posting pics, then you have brandi posting links to stories that 'confirm' Lisa knew about Scheana... Brandi just needs to Stfu she is going on Like her and Lisa were best friends for 10 years she is just dragging this out for storyline just like how i see Kyle dragging this whole 'Magazine fiasco' on. I want Camille back purely because i think she will put Brandi in her place whether she will agree with a return is another matter, i mean i dont know why she doesn't. Next season they need a complete overhaul and decide where they actually want to take Beverly Hills...do they want it to be all about backstabbing, and Plotting against one and other OR do they want to show what Beverly Hills is about... Glamour, Wealth and the various type of dramas that go on in BH. We dont want to see this whole 1 against 5 other women its just irritating to watch and its just like being in school. |
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Adrienne will not be invited back thats just rumours plus Andy slated her at the last reunion and her not turning up to the reunion ticked of alot of producers. Yolanda is just a bitch this season and her true colours have shown in the last few episodes but it does bring drama so maybe she will be kept on... however I dont see David agreeing he strikes me as the one in control of that relationship and if he aint happy with the reception his wife is getting he will properly tell her to leave, after all Yolanda is not exactly a fan favourite anyway.
Im seeing the twitter feud with Lisa, Kyle and Brandi and its just a mess and they are all in the wrong but Kyle just keeps stirring it even more by posting pics, then you have brandi posting links to stories that 'confirm' Lisa knew about Scheana... Brandi just needs to Stfu she is going on Like her and Lisa were best friends for 10 years she is just dragging this out for storyline just like how i see Kyle dragging this whole 'Magazine fiasco' on. I want Camille back purely because i think she will put Brandi in her place whether she will agree with a return is another matter, i mean i dont know why she doesn't. Next season they need a complete overhaul and decide where they actually want to take Beverly Hills...do they want it to be all about backstabbing, and Plotting against one and other OR do they want to show what Beverly Hills is about... Glamour, Wealth and the various type of dramas that go on in BH. We dont want to see this whole 1 against 5 other women its just irritating to watch and its just like being in school. How is Kyle stirring it? She posted one picture of the messages in response to Lisa's lie. She was defending herself which she has every right to do. If anything, it's Lisa's continuous lies that are stirring the pot. Why does she lie when she knows she can be proved wrong? And it's not just Kyle who exposed her lie either, both Yo and Joyce have too. Although, I imagine Yolanda's call was to reprimand her dinner party etiquette rather than see she was ok. Brandi and Lisa are cut from the same cloth so I don't care for either of them or their bs. Regarding the magazine fiasco, of the 4 times it has been mentioned; 1st in Kyles kitchen...by Lisa, 2nd in Carltons...by Lisa or Brandi (I'm unsure which one), 3rd in Lisa's ...by Lisa & Ken and 4th in PR by Brandi. I don't see how Kyles keeping it going but even so if my supposed 'friend' apparently did that I wouldn't let it go either. It's just strange how Lisa is not wanting to confront the lie and call Brandi out but instead wants everyone to 'let it go'. Maybe she is innocent, I don't know, but for an innocent person she sure is hell is acting hella guilty. If she had said at the PR table "It is not true, Brandi you are lying, stop lying" or words to that effect it would have been done with there and then. If Ken hadn't started shouting at everyone (which he did before things kicked off) and going on about a 4 on 1 attack -when at this point only Yolanda was saying anything- then none of this would have escalated. Him not letting her speak was the main problem. I want it to be like season 1 & 2 next season but it wont happen unless all 3 of the former dream team are gone. Out of all the seasons they are the only ones that have been seen plotting. Kyle's a bitch but never have we seen her plotting - she's never been caught in a lie either might I add which is extraordinary for a housewive. I didn't like the 5 on 1 thing when it was everyone against Kim (season 1), Taylor (season 2), Adrienne (season 3) or Kyle (season 3 reunion/early season 4) either but not a lot of people seemed to care then. In order to get the original format back all 7 need to go and a new set have to be brought in but after the way Brandi was allowed to unveil Adrienne's surrogacy a lot of the Adrienne-rich Beverly Hills people wont even give it a consideration. So we can thank the former dream team and producers for that. The producers are the main problem anyway, the production this season has been shockingly poor but apparently they are looking for new ones. YIKES at 6 more Atlanta episodes. I don't even know if I can be bothered with that. It looks like the OC will replace Beverly Hills in mid April and New Jersey will replace Atlanta in late May, early June.. |
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Totally agree. If Lisa does leave I think it will be the downfall of the show unless they get some good new cast members or some of the old ones return. I would definitely be up for Camille and Taylor to return. It was weird seeing Taylor back as she was only briefly in one other episode this season and I had expected her to be a friend of the housewives. Personally, I don't think the producers had a clue what they were doing with this season and think there should be a shakeup behind the scenes too.
[/b]Adrienne is rumored for a return as well which I'd like, but only as a friend[/b] I would be very surprised to see Adrienne ever back on the show after Season 3 and the way she was a no show for the reunion. Personally I don't miss her at all. I always thought that for a woman with so much money, she looked like a hooker.
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I'm shocked no ones mentioned that Teresa is expected to face 21-26 months in prison after pleading guilty. Depending on when she goes in, I can see a rush record of S7 of RHONJ, just like what they did with S4.
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I'm shocked no ones mentioned that Teresa is expected to face 21-26 months in prison after pleading guilty. Depending on when she goes in, I can see a rush record of S7 of RHONJ, just like what they did with S4.
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Lisa is still popular i think Brandi had hoped it would turn all Lisa's fans against her and she will have nothing left but Lisa is still popular and her spin of is doing better then its Home show so that says something.
LOVE Vicky and her pyscho banshee moments, I think Tamra is just rotten to the core and Ryan needs kickin' to the curb!! Something's not as it seems there with him... However, I do agree that Heather is a snob lol!