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kimkam_kim
22-04-2014
With all the talk of Nene's ego its ironic I saw the advert that Lisa V, Sonja, Melissa and Vicki shot for the NBC upfronts and look who has a shot all on her own. Miss Nene Leakes! I don't know if it will be the same for everyone but I saw the advert on the hollywood reporter front page!

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/
Andrew_Duncan
22-04-2014
Originally Posted by firefly_irl:
“People talk about Kenya provoking, that is irrelevant in most legal jurisdictions, physical violence isn't condoned whereas freedom of speech does allow a person say what they wish to you however unsavoury provided it isn't libelous.

Also get real, Porsha was calling Kenya a s*ut from the 90s and that she had a rotten vagina, so don't even make dumb Porsha the victim, she gives as much as she gets.

Also Phaedra can follow Porsha out the door, she has based two entire seasons now on hating on Kenya with no storyline whatsoever. Not to mention she is married to a con who's foaming at the mouth to hook up with her arch enemy Kenya, how pathetic.”

I totally agree with the BIB. As much as Kenya is a first class biatch she wasn't entirely at fault. They both were. I'm not buying this as Porsha losing her cool, after Phaedra said they had spoke about this already so it's quite clear Porsha already had this in her mind going in there. I happen to like both women but can admit they were both at fault.

Also, the reason Kenya spoke through the thing was because Porsha had interrupted her to begin with so let's not get it twisted. Plus that's still not an acceptable excuse. It's like saying domestic violence is justified if a women taunts and speaks over a man - it isn't. Violence isn't OK period. Other Housewives have had worse said to them and still managed to keep their cool.

I like Phaedra and would like her to stay but her marriage issues seem to be distracting her from the show and lord knows what she'll be like next season with these new 'issues' with Apollo.

Just to comment on the Miami comparison - it's 2 entirely different scenarios. The miami one was alcohol indulged - not that it justifies it for me. Joanna had chased after Adriana when she tried to leave the situation and then 'grabbed' her shoulder (although the camera angle doesn't show us if that actually happened) so there was physical contact on both parts - unlike this reunion. Porsha was warned to calm down and back away from Kenya (& vice versa) by Andy - the HBIC of Housewives - and still decided to ignore him and get physical. Adriana & Porsha are in 2 different positions as part of the cast as well. Adriana is/was the star of Miami at that point and the show was already doing mediocre so it would have been a ratings disaster to get rid of her. Porsha, on the other hand, although is extremely likable, she isn't anywhere near the star on this show, she's not even in the top half and has been rumoured to be getting fired all season.

I couldn't care less if both Porsha & Kenya got fired at this point.

I'm excited for OC & NY this week. It's the start on the Ramonja fall out which will be a different direction for the show - I'm intrigued as to how it will change the group dynamics.
Ben_Hunt
22-04-2014
Umm sorry what have Kenya's storylines been? Trying to make out she was in love with a guy who clearly didn't know her not want to be with her and now wanting to get pregnant without any proof that she has a partner! She's there to stir and she finds excuses to make it look like she's progressing through the show. Phaedra meanwhile has extended her family, her businesses and education while Porsha has gone through a divorce and had to find independence. Kenya's never been married yet she's on the show!
firefly_irl
22-04-2014
Originally Posted by Ben_Hunt:
“Umm sorry what have Kenya's storylines been? Trying to make out she was in love with a guy who clearly didn't know her not want to be with her and now wanting to get pregnant without any proof that she has a partner! She's there to stir and she finds excuses to make it look like she's progressing through the show. Phaedra meanwhile has extended her family, her businesses and education while Porsha has gone through a divorce and had to find independence. Kenya's never been married yet she's on the show!”

Yawn.

Yes extending her family with a criminal who for such a hot shot lawyer didn't even realise he was cashing Delta Airlines cheques, or didn't care. Porsha is in her early 30s, she should have her independence now rather than hang off her fake husband and mother.

Every single major moment this season aside from the bridal shop had Kenya involved. Bailey Bowl, couples night, Mexico and the vineyard.
Andrew_Duncan
22-04-2014
Loved the OC last night. It was tame compared to other shows but it was still a great episode. I think they might have fired Lizzie before her segments have even aired - she still wasn't on it & wasn't in the preview for next weeks! LOL.

It looks like the fireworks start next week with Heather, Vicki & Tamra.

The show has definitely got a fresher feel with the old girls gone. I'm really liking the new girl Shannon too. She seems so nice and calm so I'm super intrigued as to what Heather can do to make her go crazy.
daisiesfan
22-04-2014
Originally Posted by Andrew_Duncan:
“Loved the OC last night. It was tame compared to other shows but it was still a great episode. I think they might have fired Lizzie before her segments have even aired - she still wasn't on it & wasn't in the preview for next weeks! LOL.

It looks like the fireworks start next week with Heather, Vicki & Tamra.

The show has definitely got a fresher feel with the old girls gone. I'm really liking the new girl Shannon too. She seems so nice and calm so I'm super intrigued as to what Heather can do to make her go crazy.”

I read that Lizzie is first on the show in Ep 4.
At first I thought losing 3 women from the cast would be bad for the OC, but it was needed. Even though there are only 4 women so far it hasn't felt flat to me at all, in fact i'm really enjoying it so far.
Shannon is a great addition to the show, cooky, a little deluded but funny, although I do feel for her husband. Vicki is hilarious. I see her son is still a mardy git, you would think he'd have grown up by now.
Isn't there a new FOTH that's also supposed to be joining? Danielle? I wonder when we see her.
Just to chime in on the Atlanta thing. Yes Kenya provoked Porsha but that is not an excuse to drag someone around by their hair. Kenya wasn't the only one saying horrible things and she didn't get out of her seat when Porsha started talking about her vajajay. Porsha's actions just proved how immature and dumb she is. Also, blaming Andy Cohen? PLEASE!
It sounded to me (when Nene was trying to silence Porsha) that Porsha had already planned to hit Kenya and Phaedra and Nene had talked her out of it.
Either way it was ratchet as hell. Enjoyable, but not something I want to see on the show as a regular thing. That's what Mob Wives is for.
soapiej
22-04-2014
I liked OC this week, the way Shannon and David are portrayed I can't help but think they are one of those reality tv couples headed towards divorce. Next week's episode looks very good, Heather and Tamra have their confrontation.

Atlanta: just ratchet. I just wish they would have brought Marlo to the reunion, but she isn't mentioned in the next two episode descriptions, so it seems like she wasn't there.
I have had it with Atlanta and yet I just keep watching, I don't know why. To be honest, I wouldn't mind if they would take a longer break after this season ends, and just return next March/April instead of November.
Andrew_Duncan
22-04-2014
4 episodes is quite far in (quarter mark of the season) to be introducing a new wife. However, I'm loving how organically they are bringing Shannon in and making her fit without forcing it. It was evident how natural it was at Tamra's party when Heather walked off and left her standing there, looking nervous which is what most people would be like in a room full of strangers, until Vicki saved her. I hope they bring in Lizzie in naturally too. I think this is where New York and Beverly Hills messed up big time, they just threw them in at the deep-end.

I don't know what to expect from Danielle. There were stories about her being crazy and creating all this drama among the cast and her own family for the show but then Shannon said in an interview that she was very quiet.

I usually don't like when the cast is small, or there is an odd number of HW's (throws the feng shui off), but in the case of the Orange County less is definitely more.

I don't think her son is over her gate-crashing his college party on national television yet. lol.

Originally Posted by soapiej:
“ To be honest, I wouldn't mind if they would take a longer break after this season ends, and just return next March/April instead of November.”

I agree! The fact they started filming again to add even more episodes to the season (originally is usually 16 - 18) has put Atlanta in an overkill. The breaks in between made it seem so much longer too.

They should hold off on Atlanta until March/April and move Beverly Hills to the lucrative Sunday evening slot that it was in. If new cast members are coming back to Beverly Hills that should give it some hype, it could revive Beverly Hills by being in that slot as well. They could film Miami over the summer and then see how it would fair airing over the fall instead of the usual late summer period. Miami would need some changes though, cast wise. (In: Adriana, Joanna, Alexia) (Out: Lea, Lisa, Marysol) (Replacements: Karent, Ana & someone new). They can never ever mention Adriana's marriage date again because we're over that.

Although, I can't see them letting Atlanta have a break with its ratings success, neither can I see them bringing Miami back either sadly.
dillan
22-04-2014
Gina questioning staying on Real Housewives of Melbourne for S2..

http://www.yourtv.com.au/blog.aspx?b...wcomments=true
soapiej
22-04-2014
http://goo.gl/LvZ2SN
This article states that two housewives were fired. I am ok with those two - both are dull anyway. Again, this site looks not very reliable, but when it comes to the housewives, they have almost always been right.
daisiesfan
22-04-2014
Originally Posted by dillan:
“Gina questioning staying on Real Housewives of Melbourne for S2..

http://www.yourtv.com.au/blog.aspx?b...wcomments=true”

Gina is the only one I like, so if she does leave that gives me a good reason not to watch a potential S2. To be honest I think this season has been really boring, i'm surprised there would even be a S2. It has just seemed like a bunch of rehashed storylines from other HW shows.
With regards to Cynthia, Marlo and Porsha getting axed, i'm not surprised, although I will miss Cynthia. Yes, she's not exactly the most riveting to watch, but I do like her. Marlo was only in a couple of episodes, so wont be missed by me and Porsha? Good riddance.
DEADLY_17
22-04-2014
Originally Posted by soapiej:
“http://goo.gl/LvZ2SN
This article states that two housewives were fired. I am ok with those two - both are dull anyway. Again, this site looks not very reliable, but when it comes to the housewives, they have almost always been right.”

Cynthias downfall is Peter if it wasn't for him i would want to like her more and would want her to stay another season cause her feud with NeNe would be interesting BUT I cant take another season of Peter trying to be HW :/ Porscha not surprised like i said before even before this fight I think she was on the chopping block and that fight sealed her exit.

Now As 2 spots are open I think 2 Brand new wives would be good someone we haven't seen but ideally I would just Love to see Kim and Sheree back but if i had to choose one then Kim please!
PrincessTT
22-04-2014
I'll be disappointed if Nene and Kenya are still there next season, but I'll carry on watching... However if that disgusting creature Kim comes back then I'm out.

I can think of a couple of the Married To Medicine women that I'd like to see switch over to RHOA.
Andrew_Duncan
22-04-2014
Originally Posted by soapiej:
“http://goo.gl/LvZ2SN
This article states that two housewives were fired. I am ok with those two - both are dull anyway. Again, this site looks not very reliable, but when it comes to the housewives, they have almost always been right.”

I'm disappointed about Cynthia going. I was hoping they would keep her and add Malorie to the cast or at least feature her more prominently. Maybe her replacement will be Petericia. Cynthia was the glue between the cast and added a certain beauty and class to the show. Her storylines with Peter were old as hell but they seem quite down to earth and real to be honest. I hope they'll give her a 'friends' role. What are they going to do though, fire everyone that crosses Nene?

I guess they're going to be adding friends for Nene as she gets on with no one. I'm even a little sad Porsha got fired completely, I though maybe a demotion would have been coming. I hope they add Lexus (Lexie?) cause she is fab-u-lous with her little cocktail and OTT facial expressions.

The shocker is Phaedra coming back though.I can't see Kim returning this season. Maybe next season if Tardy... doesn't do well this season.

Originally Posted by dillan:
“Gina questioning staying on Real Housewives of Melbourne for S2..

http://www.yourtv.com.au/blog.aspx?b...wcomments=true”

I like and dislike all the cast. I think production has to step it up by letting storylines progress rather than showing scene after scene with the same confrontation. They have at least 3 confrontations/sit downs every episode.

Also, none of the women have the ability to recall their own words but are perfectly capable of recalling each others. Gina & Janet are definitely the main offenders.

I like Gina but it's clear she'd be a pain in the ass to film with. Apparently her legal letters kept interrupting filming which is probably the real reason why Janet was annoyed (but obviously couldn't say so as it would break the 3rd/4th(?) wall.) I think her CC'ing the girls was a threat, why else would she have only cc'd them two? However, I'll hold full judgement for the reunion when the reason comes out. Andrea is a great villain and is playing her role well, I lol'd at her pettiness in the last episode, saying she wasn't sure whether to invite Gina seconds after Gina had just said it. The Gina/Janet fallout escalated quickly. I admire how Janet owned up to what she had said - even if she got the words wrong, a recurring theme on this show. I like Chyka but she's too nice, such a sweetheart and it shows. I just laugh at Lydia, I don't why. I feel like I should hate her but I like her, she's so clueless, I don't know how to explain her. I think Lydia is taking the show as light-hearted whereas some of the girls are taking it quite seriously. I cannot stand Jackie, such an irritating woman.

I'd probably rank them:
1)Janet (even though I don't agree with her dropping Gina in it)
2)Lydia
3)Gina
4)Chyka
5)Andrea
6)Jackie.
BumbleSquat
22-04-2014
Not really surprised about the Atlanta contracts story. Some people have noticed a ''pecking order'' amongst the cast based on who Andy acknowledges first at the reunion.

This year it was Nene, Kandi, Kenya, Phaedra, Porsha and finally Cynthia.
dillan
22-04-2014
According to E! Online, BOTH Kenya and Porsha are unlikely to return after their fight.

I think E! is a pretty reliable source.
PrincessTT
22-04-2014
Originally Posted by dillan:
“According to E! Online, BOTH Kenya and Porsha are unlikely to return after their fight.

I think E! is a pretty reliable source.”

I trust E! more than I trust Media Fake Out... Plus I'll cling on to any hope that Kenya might be going
DC1983
23-04-2014
I think both Kenya and Porsha should be fired. It is a shame about Porsha as I quite like her, but she was dumb enough to let herself get riled up. Saying that, if I had been in Porsha's shoes, I would have reacted the same way too.
firefly_irl
23-04-2014
If Kenya goes I've no reason to remain invested in Atlanta, in BH I only watch for Kyle and Lisa and in NYC for Sonja and the Aviva craziness. Since Nene got all diva-esque I only have Kenya on Atlanta.

I'm so annoyed this criminal activity will probably get Phaedra another boring ass season.
Andrew_Duncan
23-04-2014
Originally Posted by firefly_irl:
“If Kenya goes I've no reason to remain invested in Atlanta,

I'm so annoyed this criminal activity will probably get Phaedra another boring ass season.”

I agree. She's the only one that adds any spice to the show at the minute. Nene is just intolerable and seems to think she's above the show and her cast mates. Kandi doesn't do well with confrontation and doesn't really go there with anyone, she just shrugs it off. Phaedra is only good with her zingers in her TH. That leaves no one...

I don't know if they will play out Phaedra's stuff. I think it could be too much having legal drama on New Jersey and then again on Atlanta.


Another great episode of New York again. I was rooting for Sonja when it came to Ramona but she was out of line talking about Luann. Sadly, I think this the beginning of Sonja's downfall and we will see the effects of her financial woes. I'm looking forward to next weeks where drinks get thrown!
DEADLY_17
23-04-2014
If Kenya goes i will be so gutted she brings the drama We cant rely on NeNe anymore as she is clearly bored and is only still doing RH because she knows its a steady income and her place is safe with producers. If they drop Kenya then we need an original back.

I enjoyed NY again this week but what is up with Ramona I mean i love her craziness but she needs to tone it down a little with how she is treating Sonja, as Sonja is clearing hitting the bottom and to have a close friend say those things when you know its going to effect them is not right. Im also not liking Ramona picking on Kristen as she is becoming a fave of mine already. I am so over the whole Aviva vs Carole stuff just END it already! Aviva I like for TV purposes but she grates me so much with the BS that comes out of her mouth. Next weeks looks like another good ep but Ramona throwing her wine is stupid but we will see how its actually done cause it could be just them joking around.
firefly_irl
23-04-2014
There is clearly a violence clause from watching the clip on Bravo website, the minute Porsha got out of her chair Kenya was saying "Yeah you wanna hit me, get fired", and as usual Porsha took the bait because she's not exactly got a lot going on in her head.
PrincessTT
23-04-2014
Originally Posted by firefly_irl:
“There is clearly a violence clause from watching the clip on Bravo website, the minute Porsha got out of her chair Kenya was saying "Yeah you wanna hit me, get fired", and as usual Porsha took the bait because she's not exactly got a lot going on in her head.”

Given the amount of violence across all the RH shows I don't think there is a specific violence clause... I think Kenya meant that she would kick up a fuss and get Porsha fired if she hit her, I think she meant her "either she goes or I do" afterwards about the whole show not just the reunion.

My ideal line-up for next season would be Kandi, Phaedra, Cynthia, Porsha with Quad (from M2M) and Lisa Wu (from seasons 1 & 2) joining them... Get rid of the unnecessarily mean & nasty Kenya and the delusional, egotistical Nene.
firefly_irl
23-04-2014
Apart from Joanna and Adriana I don't think any other actual cast members have gotten physical with each other, sure the men have in Jersey and ATL but thats it.

ATL without either Nene or Kenya would be a snoozefest. Who among that cast would cause drama with each other????
PrincessTT
23-04-2014
Originally Posted by firefly_irl:
“Apart from Joanna and Adriana I don't think any other actual cast members have gotten physical with each other, sure the men have in Jersey and ATL but thats it.

ATL without either Nene or Kenya would be a snoozefest. Who among that cast would cause drama with each other????”

Sheree yanked Kim's wig, Nene choked Kim, Nene and Kim on the tour bus, Tre threw Andy out the way like a ragdoll (his words not mine) when she was charging at Danielle... And they continued to feature the HW's husbands and children who have been violent on the show.

Personally, I don't like the kind of drama that Nene and Kenya bring - it's nasty and bitter, not entertaining in the slightest. My favourite moments on RHOA are when we see Kandi working, when we see Phaedra in one of her many businesses, Cynthia trying to be sexy for her husband - I love seeing the ladies having a good time together not being mean to each-other just for the hell of it.
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