No they don't at all.

There is no 'set price depending on ratings'. The price is dictated also by the brand and audience. For example a show where the brand and audience is compatible with products where huge amounts of advertising money is spent then there is a higher premium for that slot.

Bravo don't decide where to put an advert but they do decide a price. A price which is calculated on more than just ratings. For example if it's a show where the audience are big cosmetic consumers they know they can ask for a higher price because the cosmetic industry spend millions on advertising. Where if it's a show where the audience are big tractor consumers then they have to lower their price because that is an industry that doesn't spend millions on advertising.

That's not to say ratings aren't important and of course they bring in the dough but the fact is if New York, OC or Beverley Hills had Atlanta's ratings there would be a bigger premium charged for advertising slots because advertisers will pay more for brands with white women because white women represent a much bigger buying demographic. That's why OC, New York and Beverley Hills will always have more investment when struggling and why they'll never be so quick to give them up.

Of course Atlanta brings in the money with the ratings they get and there is still a huge black buying demographic in the US but still it is smaller. As such there isn't that premium so cash is more solely dependent on the bigger ratings.

That's also why New York, the OC and Beverley Hill sells better abroad because most western countries don't have as big a black consumer demographic like the US does.

And I'm not trying to say black people only sell to black people and white people only sell to white. Of course that's not the case but when someone who we relate to promotes something it has more power. Advertisers pay for the brands where their biggest consumer are represented.

And I'm not saying Bravo aren't worried about New Yorks ratings or aren't trying to do everything to get them back up, just that when Andy Cohen says it's not being cancelled it's not hard to understand why. And why they will continue to invest in the show.

I totally agree. Even her absence during season 4, when she was in Australia, the show was lacking her so god knows who thought it would be good to get rid of her.

Season 5 was really bad though. St Barth's really started the storylines for the season and by that point it was too late. I totally agree with you on Jill being the face of RHONY and it still not being the same.

I like the idea of that cast. I'm not sure how it would work with Heather and Carole both being friends. The only other person they really get on with is Kristen but honestly, that seems like a show friendship imo. I just never got the real friendship that they tried to portray. I would love to see Caroles reaction to Jill though, I don't think she'd be able to handle her over-the-top-Jillness.

Yeah I think that's because of the "you're ruining the surprise" scene. He never got over that. I miss Alex too, she was quirky. I loved when her and Sonja fell out over the LGBT speaking event, that was hysterical. That was when NY was about something. It's a shame how the proper Hampton parties, the fashion shows/fashion week, the unique charity/cause events, have all gone away. I could never imagine the new cast all getting dressed up in wedding dresses to walk the streets...while falling out with one another. We never really see NY anymore either, i.e. the brooklyn bridge, the outside bars, the boat trips along the water. This just seems like a budget version made mostly in Caroles flat or Sonja's house.

It's a shame Alex stopped her video blogging, I enjoyed them. They were very informative.

The Gorga's have been in debt for a while now. Teresa's just overshadowed it. Jac is in a load of debt too, something to do with Chris running up company debts then filing for bankruptcy, apparently anyway.

I just seen picture of Kyle's back garden that she uploaded on her Facebook page. I didn't realise she has a swimming pool, tennis court/basket ball court & a golfing area.

She's still doing them. They just haven't been uploaded to Youtube. You can watch them on The Stir website.

In my opinion Jills firing was obvious. She was obsessed with the same old arguments, doing the same ol' sh*t for fours season.... only getting more venomous as each season passed.

She had the opportunity during season 4 to throw it aside... but she just continued on the same path.

And lets be honest it wasn't the cast change that started the downward path for New York, it was the season 4 reunion which was awfully received and shed half a million viewers from part one to two.

That reunion was frustrating to watch. Everyone constantly talked over each other. It was just noise. How the hell Andy or the production didn't step in during the process of filming to tell them that it wasn't making for great TV, just watching a bunch of women squawk at each other.

And don't even get me started on Alex! She was clearly on a mission to keep her job - constantly sniping at just about everyone.

Poor Cindy was just so over the entire sorry mess that she let her guard down and lost her patience with even Andy!

Totally agree. It was a hot mess and Andy even lost control of the situation. I think everyone knew they were fighting for their jobs so were trying to do outdo each other.

I know. She was even sniping when the drama had nothing to do with her. I think the only one she hadn't sniped at by the end was Ramona.

Cindy was way out of her depth. I'm still not sure what they seen in her to cast her in the first place.

I've always thought Jill never should have been fired. I do think she should have been given a time out though. Just so she could get herself back together, I don't think she ever fully adjusted to the fans new perception of her which I have no doubt must have been hard to swallow. Some people are crazy and go way over the top.

I don't think anyone can just blame Jill for the reunion failing. It was a result of the entire cast and poor direction for the Andy and the producers. If anything I would have kept Jill and fired just fired the other 3. Jill and Ramona are able to get on as long as Ramona doesn't get involved in her fights i.e. with Alex. I think Jills time away has probably let her see how to play the HW's game, by keeping it moving.

The recasting would have been successful without Heather and Carole and two other people. Although likable they don't really do many interesting things - Heather did last season but that was mainly Sonja being an ass to her. Carole hasn't really done anything of note which is why she's probably hanging on to Book-gate.

I totally agree. Whilst I like Heather and Carole, they are not housewives material IMO. Many of the shows have cast culls and it doesn't affect their ratings, but they have to get it right, NY's recast would have worked if they had cast more interesting women. I still can't believe they actually brought Heather and Carole back for another season.
As much as I am enjoying NY this season, it's a shell of the show it used to be. The only thing really keeping me invested in it is that i'm really rooting for Sonja.
The OC is proof that if they cast the right people, viewers will accept a big cast shake up. I thought this season would bomb with 3 women leaving but it's made it feel fresh again. Shannon is becoming a big favourite for me, she's made for reality tv. A part of me does die inside though every time I hear the word 'Brooks' That is a storyline that I will be pleased to see over.

I agree, surely there are more interesting women out there that would do it. I think Carole was brought in as a the weird one to replace to Alex, Heather was the Jewish family type to replace Jill & Aviva was the cooky/crazy one to replace Kelly. The only one that actually worked was Aviva. I don't know what it was about it but the scene where Sonja, Luann, Ramona & Aviva were sitting around the table at the wine venue just seemed so much more housewives-cast-like. I can't explain it but it felt right. LOL. I like Kristen but she seems a bit young, even though she isn't, to fit in with the cast but she might grow with them.

I'm interested to see where the Sonja/Ramona/Luann/Aviva quadrant end up and how Aviva and Ramona end up on the outs again.

I'm loving the OC and Shannon. She's nuts but still really likable. I like the grandual introduction to the newbies as well. Other housewives shows need to take note.

The Brooks storyline is still to come. *eye roll*. Hopefully with Tamra getting on with him his storyline is minimal.

I agree Aviva is the only one out of the newbies who actually fits the show and was a great casting but the other two not so much.

Is Jill wanted back by other fans or is it just a small fraction of us

I think it's half and half. The ones that don't want her back only say because they don't like her but usually admit she's good TV. Her WWHL ratings proved that people wanted her back - they were higher than all but 4 episodes (St Barts & reunion) of Season 5 and higher than every episode this season by 300,000 to half a million. She's one of those weird people that no matter if they love her or hate, they'll talk about her and watch her. She was trending all night and the whole of the next day after Lilo mentioned her name on WWHL the other week - 3 years later, that's star power. LOL.

Just watched Part 1 of the Melbourne reunion and it made me realise how much I love Andy Cohen, as the presenter on this was bad. Not Vancouver reunion guy bad, but bad. His face was also starting to freak me out too, why would anyone pay good money to look like that?
It was all a bit meh, but Gina's 'insignificant arse hair' line was brilliant. I've loved Gina all season, but don't think she came across very well at the reunion. For a lawyer, i'd expect her to be quicker with the comebacks, but all she said was' I didn't do/say that.
Anyone know where I can see the Ladies Of London trailer?

I miss the proper NY accent to and Jill had it, the way she just went on and on and then saying something like in NY accent 'Are you kidding me' I really hope Bravo get her back Its obvious she will sign if its offered.

I know. I keep reading everything like that in her voice. She was one of a kind.

I'm not sure she would. A while back I remember her saying she was done with the show and she had actually, for the first time, seemed to have moved on from the show. I'd love her back but I think it'd be awesome if they asked her back and she told them to stick it, they'd be speechless. If she does come back she'll demanding those $ though.

Just watched the Melbourne reunion. Gina came out of that looking really, really, bad. She was denying ever using the word moron after it showed her saying it on camera...then she called Andrea it 3 times on the show. That montage of her saying things about the other women really showed her to be a piece of work, and to think I liked her before the reunion.

The email was a threat, even Chyka who has been loyal to Gina admitted that was how she had taken it. I still don't get why only those two were CC'd and not the others. Gina had made out like the email didn't mention anything about the cast but it blatantly said they would be served, even if it was only so they knew it's still not a very comfortable position to be in. I found it funny Andrea saying the producers told her she couldn't talk about the email but she went and did it anyway on camera and seemed surprised they stopped her and told her she couldn't mention it - what did she think was going to happen? LOL.

What the hell was with the 'body bag' segment? That was disgusting, as was her trying to intimidate Chyka with the 'you better get this right'. I actually can't believe they aired that part of the reunion.

For the first time I really enjoyed Jackie, she stuck to her guns and actually made a lot of sense when she spoke. I'm not Andrea's biggest fan but I did feel bad for her, she's taken a pummeling in the press and on social media and it's clearly taking it toll on her. I love her and Lydia's friendship though. Speaking of Lydia, she was another person Gina was vile to saying she was no better than a prostitute and had married for money. IMO, Lydia had a legit reason for not changing her name.

The only person not to get into with Gina was Janet. I really enjoy Janet. She brings an element of fun to the show with her. She looked glowing at the reunion as well.

It was actually quite a good reunion. I was expecting a crappy one like Vancouver but this was US housewives style, minus Andy of course. The host done well, not sure why he felt the need to the wear sunglasses though.

All I can say about Part 3 of the RHOA reunion is that Apollo showed himself to be dumber than I ever thought possible... I really do hope that Phaedra has already started to put the wheels of divorce in motion and she doesn't stand by him when he's in prison.

Oh and Kandi was pretty much perfection, she put her point across to Nene eloquently and didn't resort to petty insults... On that note Phaedra's sperm bank comments were below the belt and Kenya looked genuinely hurt by them.

Other than that it was a whole load of Kenya and Nene trying to shout over each-other and I would be very grateful if they would continue to do so away from my tv screen so that I never have to see either of them again.

And Cynthia summed up my feelings perfectly with her "not this again" when Apollo reached for his phone to show text messages.

I started to watch Porsha's one-on-one afterwards but it got too painful after about 5 minutes and I switched off. It does make me laugh though, Bravo say that they don't condone violence and yet they gift Porsha with her own one-on-one.

Next Sunday (May 11th) is Kenya's one-on-one with Andy followed by the lost footage episode... The week after (May 18th) is the RHOA Husbands Revealed episode and Kandi's spin-off starts in the RHOA slot on June 1st. I wonder what they'll be putting on the Sunday in between (May 25th) to continue the seemingly never-ending season of RHOA.

''She's sitting around talking about MY husband and my... the father of MY children, and she spends her weekends paddling through sperm banks, looking through cat-a-logues, to try to find a donor. Honey, you don't know if yo baby daddy will be an axe murderer or a child molester because what you WILL know is that he needed $10 to get him a medium-sized pizza, so he ejaculated in a cup so you can have a kid.''

Pheadra's read on Kenya was cutting to put it kindly! I've said this before and I'll say it again, Pheadra is probably the shadiest b*tch to sit on the Bravo stage. Her words are her weapons.

Meh Part 3 annoyed the hell out of me! I actually felt bad for Kenya this episode Phaedra was out of line to say what she said about sperm banks she must of offended alot of people in Kenya's situation. Apollo has a criminal past AND could be going to jail for fraud so Phaedra just looked stupid and Apollo looked stupid throughout he was obviously coached by Phaedra before filming and to me he just looked like he was pissed that Kenya maybe turned him down so he turned against her.

NeNe Im just over her well and truly after this 3 part reunion, she looks bored, she is uninterested in any of the question andy is asking her, she can dish but cant take it and she can not hold onto friendships. Also she goes on about how Kenya is using Cynthia to get back at Nene BUT she is doing the exact same thing with Phaedra she couldn't stand her before but because she doesn't like Kenya and she knows Kenya hates Phaedra so she is using her to get at her.

The best part of the Atlanta reunion was seeing the flashback of Sheree and Nene's fight. 'Your last car was repo'd, YOUR LAST CAR WAS REPO'D'.
Nene is really delusional to think she is still the queen of Atlanta. She has turned a lot of people off over the last couple of seasons all due to her arrogance.
I love Phaedra, but I don't buy the united front that she and Apollo were putting on. Loved Kandi's read to Andy when she said if someone called Todd a bitch she would 'do the behaviour you said you don't condone lol.
I think a cast shake up is gonna happen as if they keep it exactly the same the dynamics are gonna be weird with the same women.

Personally I would ditch Kenya and Cynthia.

It would be totally unbelievable if Kenya was still part of the group. She's like the Danielle Staub of Atlanta. She's burned so many bridges with everyone that it would just be totally unbelievable to have her still part of the show.

Cynthia has never really be that entertaining to me. Her major stories this year came from her husband who had more desire to express an opinion than her. The end of her friendship with Nene is sad but it sums up her role on the show - she's the ultimate flip-flopper. Plus she just seemed redundant at the reunion. However, I think that was down to her lack of involvement in the Porsha/Kenya aftermath. All the other ladies seized the moment whilst Cynthia backed off and removed herself from everyone else. It kind of made her look as much an outsider as Kenya in that moment IMO.

Cynthia has class unlike NeNe though and tbh the show is not good for her i think she should quit and get in first before Bravo does.

I wasn't buying the whole Phaedra and Apollo front they put on either its just seemed fake and just an attempt to stop the rumours of them splitting.

I have to agree with you on Kenya though she really has become Danielle from NJ I dont want her to not be on next season though cause I do like her but no one is going to film with her next season BUT if Sheree comes back then maybe they will both team up together. There has been alot of sheree being mentioned this season and they even showed her in that flashback in this episode. Something tells me she will be back either just part time or full time but for her return to work I would want her back as Full time HW.

I also think NeNe is going to get a battering by Bravo with the editing next season if she signs on she was rude to Andy and it sounds like she is a Diva with producers so they might just get her back the best way they can.....Give her the villain role next season. They did it with Teresa for like 3 seasons.

The Atlanta reunion...

Like most people, I'm over Nene. Kandi read her wonderfully. Andy really needs to reign her in, she was so disrespectful to him. I hope the producers give her the ass edit then boot her ass after next season.

Phaedra went way too low. She was out of order and vile. Not only did she offend Kenya, she offended every single woman that uses the sperm banks and the men that donate.

I like Cynthia, she's far too good for the show. I forgot Porsha was gone until Kandi sat in her seat, that's irrelevant she is.

I felt bad for Kenya, the beat down on her was the worst on a HW's show. Teresa might have had all the cast against her but I can't remember them ever going way low like that. She genuinely looked hurt after Phaedra's comment. It was obvious she checked out of the reunion there.

I think it's more unbelievable to bring Nene back to group than Kenya. Kenya still gets on with Cynthia & Kandi. Nene only gets on with Porsha - her relationship with Phaedra is built upon a mutual dislike of Kenya and if she does go they will have nothing in common. It never really occurred to me until last night, but Nene is very intimidated by Kandi and Kenya. Kandi's the most popular and Kenya brings the drama/is the villain...where does that leave Nene?

I felt so uncomfortable watching Apollo talk to Kenya, he was clearly trying to intimidate her. Even Kandi was like 'what the hell?'. Did anyone else see Apollo nodding his head agreeing with Kenya on the drugs thing? Phaedra will no doubt be giving him a lashing for that.

At this point, I'd fire Porsha and Phaedra. Both have been pretty irrelevant all season and most of last season. I'm tired of Phaedra's act as well, not to mention how she has been kissing Nene's ass all reunion. I'd maybe demote Cynthia. For new wives, either Sheree, Marlo & Natalie or a combination of them and new girls.

Part 3 of the Atlanta Reunion.......well that was brutal!

Count me in with the I'm over Nene crew. What has happened to the woman?! She is so totally disrespectful I don't even know what to say, Andy is reeling that he helped create this monster. I just cant with her. Id actually rather Nene left the show now. I never thought Id say that, I loved Nene from Season 1, but the last few seasons she has just gotten continually worse. She must be a nightmare to work with. She doesn't have friends, only people she "helps" and in return she expects total loyalty- have an opinion that she doesn't share and your done. She hates Kenya because Kenya is stealing her crown. Simple as.

Kandi was perfection and she read her brilliantly. I love that about Kandi, she wont play to Nene.

I love Phaedra, she has the best shade. I totally agree that her words are most definitely her weapons. Unlike the rest of them, bar Kandi, she's totally unflappable. She's not about to jump off the couch and scream blue murder, but she will cut a b*tch with her words. And she did. And then some! Now I love Phaedra, but I was shocked with what she said to Kenya. It was a step too far I feel. I was sort of half admiring the shade of it, but at the same time I couldn't believe she went in so hard. Never mind owning Kenya, she just insulted anyone who has used a sperm bank. Moving onto Apollo, he just came across totally ridiculous. Phaedra might be sticking to the script, but her facial expressions and her body language is entirely telling. She is SO over him. I don't see these two lasting much longer- I think at this point Phaedra would wrap him in a bow and give him to Kenya! Really did not like the way he spoke to Kenya either, he was trying to intimidate her I totally believe that. Saying he is the reason she has a storyline- Kenya may have stirred up the pot with the Apollo drama and the texts, but she's more than able to match these women, and doesn't need him to give her a place on the show.

I felt for Kenya. The way they went in on her was brutal. Kenya maybe be a pot stirrer and a total drama queen, but it was just relentless. Don't get me wrong, she is no shrinking violet, but you could see she totally checked out, esp after what Phaedra said. She just shut up and spoke volumes with her silence. I think she realised that nobody in he cast particularly likes her, maybe they can tolerate her, but she's not going to have anyone exactly jumping in her corner.

And the husbands came on......I did at Peter whipping out his peach and taking a bite. He so wants to hold a peach! I cringe for Cynthia when she tries to defend him though, its just so......awkward! I like Todd, he and Kandi seem really happy and I hope it works out for them, its a shame Mama Joyce is all sorts of crazy!

All this has left me wondering about next season though. After all that, there's going to need to be a cast shake up. It just wouldn't work with them all. I really hope Kenya doesn't go, she's fantastic entertainment on this show, but I just wonder what her place will be next season- and I just cant figure out if I think Porsha will go or not. At this point Id honestly rather see Nene go than Kenya. I really would. I hope Cynthia manages to stick around though, she brings beauty and a real class to the show, she may not be the most dynamic, but she fills a role. Get Sheree back, I'm so into this idea! Maybe she and Kenya could go for Nene, although Sheree and Kenya in an argument would be pretty crazy as well!

Here's a little clip of Porsha on WWHL last night http://youtu.be/ADKuol4A0z4

Yeah thats why i felt bad for Kenya when that comment about the sperm banks was made it really hit her hard and maybe it was only then she realised that no one actually likes her it is horrible because at the end of the day Kenya is Playing for the cameras she knows how to create drama but have fun with it where as NeNe and especially Phaedra hit below the belt and Kenya only does that when she is being attacked i cant blame her. Also did anyone else catch Apollo's comment about Kenya's toe nails :/ he was trying to be funny but he just sounded like a child and when he kept saying 'Oh you need me for a storyline you should be paying me' I was like STFU if anything its Kenya who has kept the two of them relevant.

From what i have read about the Porsha one on one it sounds like NeNe and Phaedra have been in her ear to bash Kenya and Cynthia she sounds like a puppet.