[tally]

Originally Posted by sheddy99

Anyone see today's RHOOC, poor Vicki and Donn are obviously going to get divorced. I nearly choked when Alexis & that cow Gretchen accused Vicki and Tamra of creating drama to take attention away from Alexis' event.....can anyone remember Peggy's party????

Poor Vicki? Blimey, I cant believe anyone has the time of day for her. I truly loathe her.

She treated Donn appallingly and has had a toy boy boyfriend since before she filed for divorce. Donn's still living at Casa Vicki though and the divorce isn't final as far as I can see. So perhaps he needs to grow a pair.
Meanwhile Brianna, who I think is tremendous, (she must have her fathers' genes) is disgusted with her Mother and has finally stood up to her controlling, manipulative ways. GOOOOO Brianna.

[LaineyT]

Originally Posted by tally

Poor Vicki? Blimey, I cant believe anyone has the time of day for her. I truly loathe her.

She treated Donn appallingly and has had a toy boy boyfriend since before she filed for divorce. Donn's still living at Casa Vicki though and the divorce isn't final as far as I can see. So perhaps he needs to grow a pair.
Meanwhile Brianna, who I think is tremendous, (she must have her fathers' genes) is disgusted with her Mother and has finally stood up to her controlling, manipulative ways. GOOOOO Brianna.

I know at the end of Fridays episode it said Vickies daughter had moved back home. So she had a toy boy on the go dirty girl lol.

[tally]

Originally Posted by LaineyT

I know at the end of Fridays episode it said Vickies daughter had moved back home. So she had a toy boy on the go dirty girl lol.

I think I'm a series ahead, just finished watching the latest US offering and Brianna is brilliant. She moved far away from Mother who is making a right a-hole of herself constantly trying to make sure B stays a virgin ( good grief she's in her twenties!! and it's none of her goddam business. )

I cant be objective about Vicki. If she was my Mother I'd kill her. She doesn't have any boundaries.....until, God forbid, someone questions her.Then all hell breaks loose and they are the scum of the earth.

I dont even admire her work ethic because it's OCD and there's nothing else in her sad, lonely life ( until the toy boy arrived. )

And he wont last, he'll soon be a "sponger"

I liked Donn. I thought he was a thoroughly decent bloke and both of her kids look on him as their father.

[sheddy99]

Originally Posted by tally

I think I'm a series ahead, just finished watching the latest US offering and Brianna is brilliant.

there have only been 6 series, which is what has just finished now on itv2.
I felt sorry for both vicki and donn because getting a divorce is horrible you could see they both weren't happy, and it evoked sympathy in me.
didn't realise vicki had another boyfriend already
I HATE jeana and laughed when tamra threw that letter in her face

[Jo09]

Originally Posted by sheddy99

there have only been 6 series, which is what has just finished now on itv2.
I felt sorry for both vicki and donn because getting a divorce is horrible you could see they both weren't happy, and it evoked sympathy in me.
didn't realise vicki had another boyfriend already
I HATE jeana and laughed when tamra threw that letter in her face

Why the hate for Jeana?

[sheddy99]

Originally Posted by Jo09

Why the hate for Jeana?

I don't know, I can't put my finger on it. She's just come across as so smug and righteous lately.

[Jo09]

Originally Posted by sheddy99

I don't know, I can't put my finger on it. She's just come across as so smug and righteous lately.

True. I thought Jeana was trying to rise above Tamara's bait. When Tamara was in Gretchen's business she was far worse than Jeana. Double standards.

[tally]

Ah sorry, I didn't realise they were so up-to-date on British telly. Have they shown S4 of NY. Both Season 3 and 4 are hysterical. Not so keen on Atlanta, but I still watch it.
They didn't say B had moved back home on US telly. Is it because she's still ill?)


Jeanna was the only one I liked, but I do think she has no business meddling in Slimey and Gretchen or, more pertinantly, Tamra's affairs. After her non marriage and her pathetic excuse of an oldest son, I have zero respect for her opinion on men.

One thing puzzles me, how did she and Vicki produce such fabulous daughters?

[zippy00]

I didn't realise there was a thread tucked away in here I though no one was watching.

Jeana used to be the most normal one, but she now seems sad, bitter and lonely, stirring up trouble whenever she can for press space. Interesting only Quinn went to see if she was ok. I had to press pause to double take at her wig btw, what was she thinking I really don't get Jeana either making excuses for the men, besides Simon, her Hubby and Son do you remember her in one series defending Vicki's ex Mike when she had never even met him

To be fair though most of them have become a bit more dislikeable this series, I don't think being on the show does any of them any favours so I hope the money is worth it.

Vicki did win me back though as I thought the last couple of episodes you could see some of the reasons of why she's like she is with work and how she treats Donn. Seems like there had been a lot of hurt over a long period on both sides. I think you can have two nice people, but they just aren't right for each other, someone doesn't have to always be in the wrong. Poor Brianna though having to put off her escape, that girl is a saint and there is no excuse for that whole spanking employees thing

[Jo09]

Spanking employees? What did I miss?

[tally]

Originally Posted by Jo09

Spanking employees? What did I miss?

It's Vicki's idea of office discipline. I think she thinks it's amusing. I would rather be on skid row than work for her. Her Blog take on it:

I know some of you may think spanking Danielle was out of line, but it was all in fun and she told me afterward that she understood me being upset. I have known Danielle since she was in third grade, and she is best friends with Briana. She had been slacking off at her job recently, and she kept making excuses for showing up late, leaving work to do errands, or get tea and then not returning back to work when she told me she would. I love her like my own daughter, and although I don't think spanking a 23 year old is ever appropriate, it at least showed her how serious I was. Since her "spanking," she has not let me down yet, and I'm confident that was a huge life lesson for her.

I'd sue the living daylights out of her and I'm not remotely litigious, normally.

[Danslink]

In my insomniac state last night, I stumbled across The Real Housewives of New Jersey. I was enthralled. Is it a good version?

[Jo09]

Originally Posted by tally

It's Vicki's idea of office discipline. I think she thinks it's amusing. I would rather be on skid row than work for her. Her Blog take on it:



I'd sue the living daylights out of her and I'm not remotely litigious, normally.

Don't know how I missed that. Normally I would suspect it's just for the cameras but it's Vicky so you never know. I'm glad Vicky acknowledged it's inappropriate.

[Jo09]

Originally Posted by Danslink

In my insomniac state last night, I stumbled across The Real Housewives of New Jersey. I was enthralled. Is it a good version?

This was the first housewives I watched. Unlike the OC a lot of them are related and of Italian ethnicity. Season 1-2 was mostly the family vs Daniele. I enjoyed it and would recommend watching. It sparked a lot of debate in the states.

[tally]

Originally Posted by Danslink

In my insomniac state last night, I stumbled across The Real Housewives of New Jersey. I was enthralled. Is it a good version?

The best. They hate each others' guts and there are two factions, Caroline, Jaqueline and Theresa v T's sis-in-law and the rest of her family!!

But if you're watching and Danielle in still in it, it's fascinating. She's certfiably nuts! And dangerous.

[Valerian]

Originally Posted by Danslink

In my insomniac state last night, I stumbled across The Real Housewives of New Jersey. I was enthralled. Is it a good version?

Stick with it Danslink, there are a couple of episodes coming up were all the families except for Danielles, go back to Italy.

I am looking forward to RHONY which starts on Wednesday, I gave up on RHOOC, I couldn't really get into it.

[louise1966]

Originally Posted by tally

Poor Vicki? Blimey, I cant believe anyone has the time of day for her. I truly loathe her.

She treated Donn appallingly and has had a toy boy boyfriend since before she filed for divorce. Donn's still living at Casa Vicki though and the divorce isn't final as far as I can see. So perhaps he needs to grow a pair.
Meanwhile Brianna, who I think is tremendous, (she must have her fathers' genes) is disgusted with her Mother and has finally stood up to her controlling, manipulative ways. GOOOOO Brianna.

Vicki is my favourite housewife. I respect her greatly for being an independent, working mother, who has no desire to rely on a man for money. I think your comments about Brianna are misplaced; Vicki has come out of hospital, and Brianna is moving back home to be with her mum, as any loving daughter would. Everything you read about Vicki and Donn's divorce is rumour and speculation. Vicki herself said that he eas not too demonstrative - my words - in showing or professing his love for her. She works hard and needs to feel loved, I'm sure. Obviously, she didn't. I do believe that Vicki likes to be the orchestrator of events, but her concern for Brianna over her health problems has been evident for all to see. As Vicki said in an interview, family is everything. She is perceived as being this industrious hard nosed female who lives for her work when, in reality, she does a job she loves to support her family. She needs to work - she doesn't choose to - to pay her bills.

[louise1966]

Since she and Matt the jailbird separated, Jeana has indeed evolved into a sad and bitchy cry baby. On Friday's episode, the first thing she did after Tamra threw the drink over her, was to phone Simon to tell him. What does it have to do with Tamra's estranged husband? Jeana needs to get a life.

[tally]

Originally Posted by louise1966

Vicki is my favourite housewife. I respect her greatly for being an independent, working mother, who has no desire to rely on a man for money. ........ She is perceived as being this industrious hard nosed female who lives for her work when, in reality, she does a job she loves to support her family. She needs to work - she doesn't choose to - to pay her bills.

It's OK. This is a discussion forum. You dont have to agree with me and I totally disagree with your opinion..

But it's not going to upset me in the slightest, so all's well.

[spoty]

Originally Posted by louise1966

Since she and Matt the jailbird separated, Jeana has indeed evolved into a sad and bitchy cry baby. On Friday's episode, the first thing she did after Tamra threw the drink over her, was to phone Simon to tell him. What does it have to do with Tamra's estranged husband? Jeana needs to get a life.

I can see her getting married to Don within a year. If not Slade?

It seems she is so good and all the other women must be crap because they do not just put with everthing the husband they do not like about them, and should just be happy????????

[Jo09]

Originally Posted by spoty

I can see her getting married to Don within a year. If not Slade?

It seems she is so good and all the other women must be crap because they do not just put with everthing the husband they do not like about them, and should just be happy????????

Probably called Simon for a bit of moral support. The housewives didn't do much did they? Tamra's behaviour was unacceptable. I note that she is still in Gretchen's business throwing around accusations she cannot know is true (can only suspect unless she was watching) but doesn't think anyone can have an opinion on her relationships.

Do feel a bit sorry for Vicky. Much prefer Vicky to say Alexis.

[spoty]

Originally Posted by Jo09

Probably called Simon for a bit of moral support. The housewives didn't do much did they? Tamra's behaviour was unacceptable. I note that she is still in Gretchen's business throwing around accusations she cannot know is true (can only suspect unless she was watching) but doesn't think anyone can have an opinion on her relationships.

Do feel a bit sorry for Vicky. Much prefer Vicky to say Alexis.

I have Vicky down as David Brent and I do love/like Don?

If I had to pick between Tamara & Gretch I would have to go for the G, because TAM took it too far [slagging her off] and then hates it done back to her.

I also think Gretch [and a couple of the others] had to keep their lips shut because of money/tax/child walfare etc... Some things can not be told on tv.

[LaineyT]

If I was Gretchen Id marry Don just to the life out of Vickie Im sure Don would be up for it lol

[louise1966]

Originally Posted by Jo09

Probably called Simon for a bit of moral support. The housewives didn't do much did they? Tamra's behaviour was unacceptable. I note that she is still in Gretchen's business throwing around accusations she cannot know is true (can only suspect unless she was watching) but doesn't think anyone can have an opinion on her relationships.

Do feel a bit sorry for Vicky. Much prefer Vicky to say Alexis.

Tamra's remarks about Slimey not paying child support were based on fact printed in court papers which certain websites got hold of. Also, her comments on his employment status are evidently true. This fact is self evident and both Gretchen and the Slimey one have admitted this. Re Gretchen, Tamra remarking on Gretchen's holidaying whilst Jeff lay dying in the hospital is again a fact that was shown on the programme. Cheating on Jeff, the guy who was the other party has admitted this did take place. So what exactly has Tamra done or said wrong? If you can give it, you've got to be able to take it. Or, as the wives say, "own it"!

[louise1966]

I think Gretchen revealed her true - can anything about this narcissistic woman be truly genuine? - personality when she accused Vicki of orchestrating her admission to hospital to detract attention from the party and Alexis. "Everything has got to be about her". How bitchy is Gretchen? I think that last quote could be attributed to her character, not Vicki's.