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Old 31-05-2014, 23:46
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Wait so BH won't be airing this year then ? If thats the case then thats bad news as people will move on. Bravo i think are doing anything in there power to keep Lisa but i think she's over it now and she doesnt need the money. I really hope Lisa comes back though because i will miss her .

As for NY ratings i cant believe it! this season has been amazing but i think its time off air damaged it and people moved on, also I dont think people have warmed to Carole, Heather or Aviva. I cant see them axing it though half way they need Jill back to save that show but if that fails then I say call it a day
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Old 01-06-2014, 00:20
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If Camille comes back who's gonna film with Lisa?

I mean if they're determined to stop Lisa from quitting bringing back Camille (who has never been a Lisa fan and saying from episode 2 or 3 of season 1 what all the others decided at the end of season 5) is hardly an incentive to stay.
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Old 01-06-2014, 00:24
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If I was the head of Bravo, and I knew Beverly Hills wouldn't be ready to air in November/December, I would make a decision on Miami for casting etc. and film a smaller season (8 episodes, 2 reunion) over the next few months to air over November, December and the beginning of January. Then I'd bring Beverly Hills back to follow them.

Atlanta and Beverly Hills air around the same time though and Atlanta haven't started filming yet either. They'll probably both premiere in December rather than Beverly Hills earlier in November as the usual. It looks like New Jersey will be the sole show to air between September and December if that happens...
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Old 01-06-2014, 00:33
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If Camille comes back who's gonna film with Lisa?

I mean if they're determined to stop Lisa from quitting bringing back Camille (who has never been a Lisa fan and saying from episode 2 or 3 of season 1 what all the others decided at the end of season 5) is hardly an incentive to stay.
Well she's pretty much burned her bridges with everyone on the show that's stuck around for more than one season - past and present.

That's why they should add some 'friends of' that she gets on with (i.e. Shiva & Joanna). Even adding them full time doesn't give her an ally. Yolanda gets on with Shiva and Joanna gets on with Kyle. If Lisa doesn't want to be involved in the drama they should just demote her to a friend and that way everyone wins.

She'll still be able to film with Yolanda as they kind of get on, Kyle and her are able to get on for the sake of filming so they'll be fine. If Camille comes back and fights with Brandi, Brandi will run to Lisa to make up - she doesn't like to fight with more than one person at a time.

I think the season is unpredictable, none of them hate each other so much that they'll refuse to engage or mend fences with one another, so if Lisa is smart she'll start choosing which bridges to mend.
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Old 01-06-2014, 11:39
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It's such a shame about New York's ratings. This has been a great season so far. Unfortunately, as it's already been said, the cast switch up 2 years ago damaged the show. Viewers don't like sudden and drastic changes. Plus, it just didn't feel organic that someone like Jill Zarin would just disappear from the group without a mention by anyone else. We all know how these shows work and that's the name of the game but with Jill and this group, it just seemed odd. We all know if this was reality and not ''reality TV'' then Jill would be right there, stuck in and getting all the dirt from the newbies. In hindsight they should've just demoted Jill or Kelly and Alex to ''Friends'' as they could've been phased out gradually.

Then the massive gap between Season 5 and 6 hasn't helped either. Not only that, the gap between filming and airing has made it worse.

I hope Bravo and Andy Cohen still see the potential in the show despite the ratings. If they had faith in Miami for 3 whole seasons then I'd hope New York would be fine.
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Old 01-06-2014, 17:16
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I think NY will be fine and will get another season, theres stuff wrong with NY that needs fixing the obvious is Luann why they demoted her i dont now the most stupid thing they could of done, the over a year wait for the season did it no favours and this is such old footage. Im really hoping that Jill comes back next year i think her against the newbies would be great TV.
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Old 01-06-2014, 17:52
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I can see New York getting another season from the network. However, it just depends if the housewives will stay without a pay rise or with a pay reduction. They have to cut costs somewhere.

Also, Aviva's trying to get her Dad's fiance on next season. Yikes. Apparently, her and George aren't having a pre-nup. Double yikes!

If Jill and Heather are both on they'll clash. Heathers said she doesn't want Jill back and Jill's called Heather are dud replacement of her. LOL. Can we not pick back up on Jill vs Ramona? I'd at least care about that and would rather that than have to watch Kristen and Carole (whom I like) drone on about the same thing for half a season.

The lack of a great trip is quite annoying. They've had the outdoors trip in the Berkshires and the Hamptons but will be going on another one in Montana. I like the trips to exotic places like St Barths, Morocco, Bali, Puerto Rico, Anguilla etc.

I am wondering if they are even considering bringing Jill back because Bravo are so out of touch with their audience they don't know whats good for the shows. If it does get canned, they could always have a version of the Hamptons and keep on Ramona, Luann & Sonja - but that's plan Z.

There's a half hour New Jersey preview on Bravo tonight after the premiere of Kandi's wedding. Ladies of London premieres tomorrow night too, which I'm looking forward too.
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Old 01-06-2014, 19:51
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I can see New York getting another season from the network. However, it just depends if the housewives will stay without a pay rise or with a pay reduction. They have to cut costs somewhere.

Also, Aviva's trying to get her Dad's fiance on next season. Yikes. Apparently, her and George aren't having a pre-nup. Double yikes!

If Jill and Heather are both on they'll clash. Heathers said she doesn't want Jill back and Jill's called Heather are dud replacement of her. LOL. Can we not pick back up on Jill vs Ramona? I'd at least care about that and would rather that than have to watch Kristen and Carole (whom I like) drone on about the same thing for half a season.

The lack of a great trip is quite annoying. They've had the outdoors trip in the Berkshires and the Hamptons but will be going on another one in Montana. I like the trips to exotic places like St Barths, Morocco, Bali, Puerto Rico, Anguilla etc.

I am wondering if they are even considering bringing Jill back because Bravo are so out of touch with their audience they don't know whats good for the shows. If it does get canned, they could always have a version of the Hamptons and keep on Ramona, Luann & Sonja - but that's plan Z.

There's a half hour New Jersey preview on Bravo tonight after the premiere of Kandi's wedding. Ladies of London premieres tomorrow night too, which I'm looking forward too.

trips are lacking this season in terms of a proper sunny holiday abroad, Heather said that there about 5 or so trips this season so hopefully its still to come.

Im really looking forward to Ladies Of London now, i wasn't so keen before but just seen the trailer and it does look good, hopefully its a hit.
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Old 01-06-2014, 20:00
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Them not going too far abroad is most likely due to budget cuts. They aren't going to shell out for a big holiday somewhere exotic when they can just send them off to the Hamptons for the same type of drama.
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Old 01-06-2014, 20:05
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I think the poor ratings for season 5 have meant the budget was cut for this season of RHONY, hence why no international trip. Probably means next season the big trip will be a visit to Brooklyn to stay with Alex and Simon That would still probably be a treat for Sonja.

How many people watch other Bravo shows like Married to Medicine, Million dollar listing shows, Shahs and of course Ladies of London? Instead of having a thread for each show, how about we have a seperate thread for non Housewives Bravo shows?
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Old 01-06-2014, 21:47
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I think Ladies Of London should stay here for now And if it proves popular maybe create a new thread but it is a Real Housewives just with a different name
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Old 01-06-2014, 22:25
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I've been so busy I haven't had much chance to post lately. But I've just been reading through the last page or so, and I've got to agree with NY.

I think this has been the best season in ages, and I'm already enjoying it more than Season 4 of BH, and basically the last 2 seasons of NJ! I'm gutted the ratings just don't seem to be there for NYC this season though. Its such a shame. I do think it'll get another season, but after that its anyone's guess. Id be gutted to see it go though Getting rid of Jill, Alex and Kelly in one fell swoop killed it for them unfortunately. It was too much to jump into Season 5 with 3 new HW and start over again.

I also really wish they would make a decision on Miami, one way or another , especially considering BH and Atlanta haven't even started filming yet. Regarding BH, I'm not surprised to see Carlton and Joyce go. Carlton was a sure bet though I thought maybe Joyce could get another season, even as a "friend", but I doubt she will be that bothered anyway. I'm just hoping Lisa will come back, Id be gutted if she left and I just cant imagine the show without her. They need to get Camille back, I'm really hoping this will happen

I'm so looking forward to Kandis Wedding and Ladies of London starting. I hope LoL is good and scores a hit for Bravo, it could have great potential. I'm interested to see this preview of NJ as well, I'm hoping this upcoming season will be good. If ever there was a franchise in desperate need of a revamp it was NJ!

kimkam- I love Married to Medicine, but I never know if I should talk about it on here, I don't like to drag the thread too off topic, I think most of us are set to watch Ladies of London though so I guess we can just keep discussing that on here? lets face it, its the Housewives of London with a different name!
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Old 02-06-2014, 11:38
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I'm a Bravoholic. If it's on Bravo or TLC and it's trash I'm there.
I love Million Dollar listing but have ploughed through all the rest like Shahs of Sunset, Southern Charm, Eat, Drink, Love and Blood, Sweat and Heels.
I've caught up with all the HoWives except NY. I'll watch that after the tennis finishes. I'm enjoying OC especially since it's bash Heather season. I do miss Lydia though.

I'm meh about Ladies of London. I shall watch, of course, but I'm not thinking I'll be enthralled. It's not a bunch of women I'm that interested in.......we shall see.
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Old 02-06-2014, 13:46
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It looks like Bravo are having problems across the Housewives board regarding money.

After the whole New York holdout it seems that other shows are following their lead.

It's being reported that no one has signed up for Atlanta yet, despite all being offered contracts, and they are refusing to sign up unless they all get pay rises.

It's reported that Beverly Hills are the same. All the remaining 5 have been offered contracts but none are signing until they get a pay rise. Although, apparently, everyone is close to brokering a deal and signing up except Lisa. The Beverly Hills ladies deserve a pay rise, they're paid the least out of all the shows, except Miami. Adriana (the top of Miami) gets $75,000 and Yolanda & Kim only get $100,000 which is shocking considering the ratings difference. Also, the likes of Heather ($175,000) & Aviva ($200,000) are earning more or the same as Brandi($175,000), Kim($100,000) & Yolanda($100,000). **figures are taken from Celebritynetworth & Allaboutrh so may not be accurate.

Gretchen Rossi confirmed she was offered to return and film an exit scene, a la Jeana Keogh, but declined it due to money too. This must have been what she was referring to when she said they asked her back.

TMZ is reporting that Shiva is the front runner for Beverly Hills. Surprising as I thought Camille would be. I really don't want 7 Housewives either.
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Old 02-06-2014, 15:11
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By watching the 2 new NJ clips on BravoTV, its clear that all the drama is coming from Amber and the twins. Melissa looks like she's going to have a few problems with Amber and Teresa obviously has all the legal stuff.

Dina looks like she's going to be quite a bore tbh, which now that I'm thinking about, is no surprise. She was only ever good because of her drama with Danielle.
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Old 02-06-2014, 15:22
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http://stoopidhousewives.com/2014/06...husband-brawl/

A link to the new Real Housewives of New Jersey trailer. It's a bit all over the place but this season looks like it'll be really, really good! It looks like Amber's husband is the Peter of NJ. There's even a hair pulling cat fight! I hope Tre doesn't go there with Kathy again this season, she needs to get over it. Even though Amber looks like the trouble maker, I think I'll really like her. How annoying that they're both called Teresa, even if it's pronounced differently it's still spelled the same.
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Old 02-06-2014, 16:24
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Whats the intro like did they show it ?

I think this season is going to be the best one since s2 we needed new wives and these women sound brilliant for NJ. Its going to be weird watching the season though if teresa gets sent down i know what she did was wrong but I still cant help but feel sorry for her...is that bad of me lol? I cant imagine the reunion without her yet alone a season

I hope season rates well to because RH shows seem to be loosing steam only Atlanta has stayed and grew stronger but I suppose NJ is up there with ATL in terms of pulling in big ratings.
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Old 02-06-2014, 17:04
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They did show the new intro. Sadly, until a download hits the net, we won't be able to see it. Teresa did instagram a picture though: http://instagram.com/p/ovBl-mSK4h/

It already looks a hundred times better than what it was before!

I don't think it will the best since S2. I loved S3 and S4, the drama was great. It just got very tiresome during S5 with the same storyline.
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Old 02-06-2014, 17:14
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I don't think it will the best since S2. I loved S3 and S4, the drama was great. It just got very tiresome during S5 with the same storyline.
I loved S3 & 4 too. I never got the hate for them. It was no more darker than the Danielle drama, just Teresa was the victim instead of the culprit. The season 4 finale and trailer made good TV even though it was intense. It was sad to see everyone turn on Teresa and hard to watch Jac imploding as well.

Season 5 was a mess but I get why they kept the same cast, they had to show them making up or Bravo would have been crucified for ruining the family then dumping them - it tied up loose ends too. It let Jac redeem herself too. imo.

I fear Atlanta may suffer the same fate as RHONJ season 5.

Does anyone know if the new taglines are any good?
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Old 02-06-2014, 17:32
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http://stoopidhousewives.com/2014/06...husband-brawl/
A link to the new Real Housewives of New Jersey trailer.
Thanks Andrew

I agree the trailer seems a bit all over the place, but I like it. I'm feeling ready for NJ now. I never thought Id say that again after Season 5! This show needed a new direction and new blood desperately and I think this season could deliver. I really hope so. Amber seems like she's going to be dramaful I think I'm going to enjoy watching her though. Her hubby is something to do with Tre and Juicy's trial, did I catch that right? That should be interesting! Its the twins I'm not sold on yet, this will sound crazy but they seem a bit too "Jersey" for my tastes lol lol but ill go with it. They could be good. I don't mind Dina being back either. I'm interested to see where she is at now, I don't think she will be the most engaging HW, but then she wasn't really before either- it was the Danielle craziness that swept her along. I liked Dina though so I think she will be good to watch. Gia crying breaks my heart. Poor thing, she shouldn't have to deal with all this. I'm still hoping Tre wont do jail time- if only for the sake of her girls.

I cant see Bravo giving in with these pay rise demands. Atlanta, maybe, they have delivered the best ratings every season, but no way to Nene. She's on a $1million per season as it is, and she wants more?! after last season Id be giving her a pay cut and telling her to check that monstrous attitude before she gets her $1M back! I used to adore Nene, but she's gone way beyond now. I'm also surprised that Porsha could still be part of the cast after the reunion- I really thought that was it for her, but maybe not. As long as Kenya is still there I'm happy. Id give her a pay rise. She plays the Housewives game to aplomb, I've said it before but she is gold on Atlanta. Id love to see Sheree back next season as well. Please let this happen!

I'm not sure about Beverly Hills. Last season was a non-starter and the ratings were bad, even VR was beating it, but Bravo does really seem to get behind BH, and their ratings are much better than Miami. As much as I like Kim I still struggle to see why they would bring her back as a full time HW. I just really hope Lisa comes back for another season. Honestly, I don't mind if there are no new HWs next season. Shiva seems nice, but I don't think she's really cut out for Housewives, maybe she could be a "friend" and see how she fares. I'm still holding out hope that Camille will be back, Id really love her back on the show full time.

I cant wait to watch Kandi's Wedding, and of course Ladies of London starts tonight. Does anyone know how many eps are in Kandi's show? I'm trying to figure out when Don't be Tardy should be back, its meant to be this summer so I was thinking maybe after Kandi's show, or towards the end of its run.
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Old 02-06-2014, 17:54
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Thanks Andrew


I'm not sure about Beverly Hills. Last season was a non-starter and the ratings were bad, even VR was beating it, but Bravo does really seem to get behind BH, and their ratings are much better than Miami. As much as I like Kim I still struggle to see why they would bring her back as a full time HW. I just really hope Lisa comes back for another season. Honestly, I don't mind if there are no new HWs next season. Shiva seems nice, but I don't think she's really cut out for Housewives, maybe she could be a "friend" and see how she fares. I'm still holding out hope that Camille will be back, Id really love her back on the show full time.

I cant wait to watch Kandi's Wedding, and of course Ladies of London starts tonight. Does anyone know how many eps are in Kandi's show? I'm trying to figure out when Don't be Tardy should be back, its meant to be this summer so I was thinking maybe after Kandi's show, or towards the end of its run.
Dina annoys me. She's just so dull. Even when she's angry at someone she still acts calm and it's just odd. I'm not sure if the guy has anything to do with the case, from what I got from the trailer, it was that he was criticizing Joe Gorga for working with the attorney general that was prosecuting the Guidices. I could be way off though.

I would be happy to continue with the 5 cast on Beverly Hills too, unless it's Camille returning. Kim has her daughters wedding to use as a storyline this season so I can see why they've brought her back. Plus, she always stirs the shxt for the producers. I love Kim but if she doesn't start showing up and participating this season then she can just go.

I think I read Kandis spin off was 8 episodes. I'm surprised that they gave her another shot after the abysmal ratings for the Kandi Factory.
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Old 02-06-2014, 18:13
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Kandi's Wedding is going to be six episodes, because on the 13th of July RHONJ is already starting in that time slot. The new intro was NOT shown during the sneak peek, just the new transition shots that are inserted between the scenes. I know this from Twitter, the new housewife Nicole said that the intro wouldn't air because she is only recording her tagline tomorrow.
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Old 02-06-2014, 19:37
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Kandi's Wedding is going to be six episodes, because on the 13th of July RHONJ is already starting in that time slot. The new intro was NOT shown during the sneak peek, just the new transition shots that are inserted between the scenes. I know this from Twitter, the new housewife Nicole said that the intro wouldn't air because she is only recording her tagline tomorrow.
Oh well that's disappointing.
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Old 02-06-2014, 22:45
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Oh I wanted to see the new intro But oh well I can wait and I cant wait to see it i do hope they keep the family behind the women but i have a feeling they might just do the one shot with the women and the name like BH and NY and Miami. Wonder if they will update the intro music to like they did with NY.

Dina I like her but i agree she doesnt bring much she keeps saying n the clips i have seen 'oh I'm a bitch' but is she really? I think she is a nice person though but for TV...... But we cant judge her from clips so we have to give her a chance I'm just glad Teresa actually has a genuine friend now to back her up.
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Old 02-06-2014, 22:55
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Them not going too far abroad is most likely due to budget cuts.
Isn't it more to do with the fact one of the cast members refuses to fly? Ironically the one who pulled out of all the trips anyway.

I mean a trip abroad is hardly an expense when compared to a trip to the Hamptons.
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