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That's great for the OC. It's truly deserved. This season performed great, it was under-rated compare to what it deserved though.
Lizzie has already quit, or at least she has made it seem that way. I agree with trying to keep everyone though. I like the 5 person cast, it works well for the OC so I don't want a 6 person cast, unless Jeana comes back, then I'll make an exception. If Lizzie has quit, I'd be open to a new wife or promoting Danielle, especially after Tamra saying no one likes her, there must be more with her that we haven't seen. I'd like an event with every OC wife attending, maybe the finale party, but I doubt it. Kimberly lives in Chicago, Jo lives in New York and the rest of them seem pretty busy with work. I wouldn't want a set up like Jeana in the season 6 party either though, and with Gretchen attending, I couldn't see that not happening. Even if Lizzie quit, she only has made an impact on the last 2 episodes. She has been a bit meh though. So I do think keep the same cast but replace lizzie with someone else and maybe promote Danielle. |
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I love them! It totally adds to the scene and atmosphere, imo. I love it when they show clips that haven't been aired as a flash back too (like the one of Lizzie at her birthday, that behaviour was a bit of shocker, which wouldn't have been as effective in the birthday episode).
It keeps it fresh for me because sometimes a scene that originally seems pretty pointless, and can go over your head, but in the context of a flashback you see how it adds up and becomes relevant - if that makes sense. Plus I enjoy seeing all the crappy things someone, like Tamra, has done all in the one go. It really does highlight how awful she can be. Andrew, all's right in the world, you and I are disagreeing again. It got a bit two peas in a pod with our mutual hatred of Bravo sacking Jill. Much better when we're at odds! I haven't ventured onto the US boards since TWoP closed down. Now they were completely nasty and spiteful. Even I was a bit ![]() And they don't like Kim. I love her. (Atlanta not BH) |
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Well clearly the dude in charge of the bleeping on New York worked his fingers to the bone for this reunion episode!
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I never thought of it that way
Andrew, all's right in the world, you and I are disagreeing again. It got a bit two peas in a pod with our mutual hatred of Bravo sacking Jill. Much better when we're at odds! I haven't ventured onto the US boards since TWoP closed down. Now they were completely nasty and spiteful. Even I was a bit ![]() And they don't like Kim. I love her. (Atlanta not BH) The US boards are crazy. The third part of New York's reunion was great. Aviva came into her own and her responses seemed less contrived, although she did look very uncomfortable on the couch. There isn't really much else to say. I have to say Aviva had Heathers number where the route of their issues stemmed from though. Heather and Kristen really grated on me this episode, I have to admit, even though I like Heather. Sonja looked drunk, it might have been her makeup though, which was really bright red/pink for some reason. Carole is apparently claiming that Reid told producers he'd get Aviva to Montana if they promised to hire her for season 7 - I don't believe it. Mostly, because Reid doesn't seem like he likes Aviva doing the show, and they certainly don't need the money. Alex McCord addressed the overwhelming response from viewers wanting the old cast back. This is what she basically said: Bethenny- would never do it, she'd see it as a step back and would lose face after mocking the show. Jill - she would do it. But not with Ramona, unless she had an ally on the show (other than Luann I'm guessing) Kelly- she would, but she shouldn't because she'd eventually have another melt down. Alex - she wouldn't go back. She doesn't want to go back to that environment and prefers her recap show. She also said she'd ditch Carole & Aviva from the cast, and doesn't care whether Heather goes or stays. She said Ramona & Sonja will be in the biggest trouble though, due to their high salaries. I always change my mind about who I want to go, stay and return. I'd definitely demote Carole, or even drop her altogether, and if Heather follows so be it. I'm not sure if I want Luann full time or not, I like this new Luann that we see. I'm liking the idea of one or two new women though. Not like Kristen, they tried to pull a Brandi with her, and it hasn't really worked imo. I just don't think she fits in, and if Heather and Carole are on the way out, she has no purpose. Maybe a friend of Aviva's would be good, or Sonja's. |
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This would be my ideal cast for NY - Ramona, Luann, Jill, Kristen, Sonja and Heather.
Here's why - Ramona has a concrete storyline set up already for Season 7. I don't like Alex's suggestion that she should go down the dating path. It wouldn't seem plausible to me considering Ramona was in extreme denial about anything being wrong with her marriage at the reunion and that was only filmed recently. I can't see Ramona even wanting to look at another man - at least not right now. Sonja has to be there because Ramona needs an ally. But Sonja needs to get her act together and focus on one project and be seen to finish it. She needs to prove she isn't scattered like the others have said and complete something. Get her life together and be the fun and carefree Sonja we first met in Season 3. Kristen. I hadn't much of an opinion on her during this season until I saw all her big moments edited together at the reunion and that's when I realised what a big part she played this year. She seemed a lot more at ease with being a ''rookie'' compared to the new girls in Season 5. Heather. I want to see her away from Carole. Don't get me wrong, I do like seeing a genuine friendship blossom on the show but Heather, I find, doesn't seem to quite get what the show is all about. Yes, in real life, if someone pisses you off the way Aviva has then you'd probably distance yourself from them as much as possible - but the Real Housewives isn't real life and she needs to remember that the show is an ensemble cast so she can't decide to exclude anyone from it. I want to see her away from her best friend because at times she came across like a mean girl who ostracises people. Luann had a great Season 6, despite not holding an apple. I think that's because we saw the real Luann. In years gone by, she always had this Countess image who condescended people about etiquette and such. A criticism the others gave her was about how she'd be one way in front of the cameras but completely different when the cameras weren't there. Apparently she was more down to earth and normal. This season she's been a lot more relatable and real. Jill. As Alex said, she'd love to do it and that's still great to hear. With all this news with Ramona and Mario, I feel she'd add more to the story. The only problem for Jill would be the role she'd want to play on the show would more than likely be very different to role producers give her. Jill wants to be liked but I suspect the show would push for her to be the villain. I'd probably have Kelly back as a Friend. I think it's a shame NY can't film things like Fashion Week and real sociallite parties for Page 6 and such. All the events seem to be created-for-TV nowadays which takes the sparkle off a bit. It also detracts from the image that Manhattan has - a busy, thriving city where your social calendar is never clear. Now we just have daft Team Sonja parties that would never have happened if Bravo weren't around. |
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I think it's a shame NY can't film things like Fashion Week and real sociallite parties for Page 6 and such. All the events seem to be created-for-TV nowadays which takes the sparkle off a bit. It also detracts from the image that Manhattan has - a busy, thriving city where your social calendar is never clear. Now we just have daft Team Sonja parties that would never have happened if Bravo weren't around.
Kristen is good for drama but it seems forced, a lot like Aviva's, but Kristen always seems like she's trying to outdo Aviva and the others - and she needs to learn that her input is not always wanted or needed. It's a shame that they are banned from a lot of these events and top restaurants, bars and clubs in New York. I think firing Jill and Kelly had a lot to do with that though. If you watch the seasons back, the majority of events had Jill or Kelly attached to them. Kelly had the connections to the fashion world and Jill had connections to pretty much everyone LOL. Her charities were always having some type of event. The new women (Carole, Heather, Aviva, Kristen) don't seem very well connected at all. How did they even find them? The Team Sonja event was pretty cheap and just smacked of desperation and highlighted how far this show has fallen, New York has never really had the best finale episodes though - ever, remember season 4? When a 54 year old Ramona tried to pretend she might be pregnant. They can gain some ground back next season, for example, Luann could have a proper fashion show with her clothing line, although it's not New York Fashion Week, it's still authentic. New York seems to have this stigma attached to it though, that makes everyone in New York avoid it like the plague. It may be because 'New York money' is very different from the likes of 'LA County money'. I think 'New York money' see the show as tacky and embarrassing, whereas their LA counterparts are all involved or linked to the entertainment industry in various ways. Even the parties during season 5 and this one has had less and less guests attending. If producers are looking for new women, they should be looking for a Bethenny type person, someone we can get behind and support. |
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Just caught up with NY and NJ:
NJ - Was good but if I'm honest i have really been craving some Danielle I would of loved to see her with these new women. Jim really has no idea what he let himself in for does he lol? Now i know the women cant sue each other or press charges when they sign up but does the same apply for the husbands? I would imagine since the husbands are heavily featured in NJ I would of thought they would of had the same sort of contract ? I thought he looked so pathetic in his talking had and what is it with him in a suit he takes it to seriously. Im really liking Melissa this season i think if she and joe was like this from the get go they would of had a better following. The twins i love them so NJ and trashy i love it NY part 3 - Im gonna be honest the 3rd part for me kind of felt like a damp cloth this reunion could of easily of been 2 parts max. Ramona i thought was alot better this half but knowing that she has confirmed her split this just felt dated. Another reason why i think these reunions should be taped closer to the finale rather then weeks ahead. Now this season has fully wrapped I think its time to let go of Carole and i dont care if we lost heather both are nice people but they dont bring the drama a reality show entitles. I watched Alex recap and she gave her view on old cast members returning and she says: Bethany- would be mad to go back Jill - Would do it but only if she had an ally Kelly - would 'but imo' i dont want her back lol As for Alex herself well she basically said she wouldn't go back as he loves doing what she does now and she loves doing her recaps and if she did go back she wouldn't be able to do that. I dont blame her from the sounds of things she got treated quite bad by producers and the editors so why go back to that? Now I say keep Aviva as a friend of and have her there for Jills sake it would be good to see how there friendship actually is and Aviva like her or not she does bring the drama. Sonja i will welcome back but only if she stops being so delusional and goes back to how she was in S3. Ramona I wouldn't want to see her dating I would like to see how she is doing after everything and i think we will see a new side to her. I also think we need 2 new HW to mix it up. |
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Just watched NJ, NY and OC. All good episodes.
NJ- The more I see Amber, the more I like her. Maybe that's just because I always like to root for the underdog, but there's something about her that I just like. I don't get all the hate for her. All she did was repeat something to someone she thought was a friend, who then repeated it. I've never been a huge fan of Melissa's and even less so this time round. Now Amber's husband on the other hand, I don't like at all, although his talking head made me giggle when he was going on about what he would do to Joe Gorga. This season is already 10 x better than the whole of last season. NYC- This reunion certainly didn't need to be in 3 parts, it's been OK, but nothing special. Aviva finally woke up in this part, (maybe her meds kicked in). As decent as Carole clearly is she is not HW material IMO, I think her and Kristen should leave and even maybe Heather too but I can't see another large shakeup of the cast unless it involves some of the older cast returning. Unlike other cities in the franchise a cast shake up on NYC hasn't really worked. I mean, I have enjoyed this season for the 'campy' often clearly staged drama that has been brought, but the show is a shadow of what it once was. OC- I thought Brits abroad were embarrassing but I cringed at how some of the women acted in Bali. I can't believe that Bravo wasted airfare on Danielle attending the trip. I hope she enjoyed it as there's not a cat in hells chance she'll be back next year. She was clearly meant to be a main housewife but has been a complete snoozefest. Poor Vicki, you could tell she was genuinely upset. As much as I can't stand Tamra, I hope she is back next year as she does bring the drama. Can't believe the season is almost over, but can not wait for the reunion. Should be a good one. |
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daisiesfan- agree with your whole post!
I really like Amber on NJ. She isn't getting a great reaction from viewers, but I like what she's bringing. She's drama, and she's not scared to open her mouth. And I adored when she told Melissa she was "tainted" I mean, should she have said that about Nicole, no, probs not. But Melissa was only too quick to run off and tell the twins. I'm warming to the twins, I think all the new girls on NJ are working well. NY was good, quite why it had to be 3 parts I don't know. Glad Aviva finally woke up a bit telling Carole she thought she was older than 50 and meant it as a compliment?! Brilliant. Loved Ramona's rambling speech where she tried to tell Aviva what was wrong with her, but made absolutely no sense whatsoever. this is after she told her she liked her, but there "is a part of you that's pretty vile" I really don't know who should stay/go next season. I'm so open for Jill coming back though. Id love that to happen. They need to start production ASAP though, half the problem this season is that by the time the show aired everything felt really dated. There was way too big a gap. The OC is just kicking all the other HW ass at the minute. Only just behind Atlanta for me. Bali was beautiful, but as per, a total disaster. Nobody is for feeling Tamra are they?! Its about time she got some of her karma back, she's a huge bitch and a compulsive sh*t stirrer so I'm not sad to see her in the hotseat. But I cant imagine her not being on the show either, she brings drama. She's trash, but she's watchable. I feel bad for Vicki that it looks like her and Tamra's friendship has totally imploded. For all their faults, I liked their friendship- call me crazy but I always thought it seemed genuine. In a way, I hope they can fix things, I've no desire to watch Vicki v Tamra next season. Otherwise one would have to go, and it really cant be Vicki, she is the Original HW, she deserves her Orange for Season 10. Id love to know what the deal was with Danielle?! ![]() she is the invisible HW. Before this season started I read so many stories about her, how she had come in guns blazing right from the off, making enemies of the other women and bringing crazy drama......so where was it??! She's been a total damp squib and brought nothing to the table, besides being Lizzie's "friend". Id love to know the story, what happened with her that they cut all her footage. It sounded like she was meant to be a big presence on the show, yet none of it happened. Cant believe its the finale next week and then we are onto the Reunion. The season has flown in! |
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I rewatched Season 5's reunion of New York out of curiosity to compare and this year was, by far, much better. I did have to laugh though when Andy asked Aviva about the Anna Nicole Smith comparison to Sonja. She said in her talking head interview that Sonja, like Anna Nicole, had married a rich, older man and lost it - and she's been going on a downward spiral ever since. Aviva says it was a ''snarky comment'' and apologised for it at the reunion. Fast forward to this year and she's backtracked to say it was a compliment because Anna Nicole was funny and charming!
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Sorry Aviva totally owned Heather in part 3, look how pissy Heather got over the "you were not brought up in the ghetto girl". Send Heather down to the RHOA and she'd poop her pants dealing with Nene or Kenya. Heather's pathetic gang were of course there to back her up. I also can't stand how Andy clearly loves the couch on the left and basically makes fun of Sonja and Ramona. Also almost all the viewer questions to the right couch were antagonistic as though they were the bad guys.
Apart from the Countess I couldn't care less for Kristen, Heather and Carole. Also these reunions are too long, we don't need the family drama, sorry but I don't care about their kids. Hope we have either returns or newbies next season and dump Carole/Kristen, I'd love someone who would totally take on Heather, only reason I want her to stay. |
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Sorry Aviva totally owned Heather in part 3, look how pissy Heather got over the "you were not brought up in the ghetto girl". Send Heather down to the RHOA and she'd poop her pants dealing with Nene or Kenya. Heather's pathetic gang were of course there to back her up. I also can't stand how Andy clearly loves the couch on the left and basically makes fun of Sonja and Ramona. Also almost all the viewer questions to the right couch were antagonistic as though they were the bad guys.
Apart from the Countess I couldn't care less for Kristen, Heather and Carole. Also these reunions are too long, we don't need the family drama, sorry but I don't care about their kids. Hope we have either returns or newbies next season and dump Carole/Kristen, I'd love someone who would totally take on Heather, only reason I want her to stay. Without the Ramona, Sonja and even Avivs, rhony would have no storyline and nothing would happen. S7 should be Ramona, Sonja, Aviva, Jill, Dina Lohan, Heather. Carole/Luann/Kelly as friends. Three part reunion coukd have been cut down to 2 or even 1. For me Rhonj has been getting better and I hope the rating continues to increase. RHOC finale looks good and can't wait for the reunion. |
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I totally agree about Andy favouring the left couch. He was quite rude to Ramona and Sonja this time around. I think it was part 2 when Sonja was talking to him and he was pretty much ignoring her and looking at his phone.
I watched the season 2 reunion for RHONY yesterday and it made me question whether New York will ever get back to it's great days, even if old cast members come back, because back then it was really awesome. I'm fearful that a Jill return wont live up to the hype either. I hope it does, if it happens. I think Bethenny would come back as well, for a self-serving purpose though. Let's be honest, if RHONY gets cancelled everyone that was on the show will fade into obscurity quickly, including her - or at least her fame will diminish to an extent. 80% of press about her is related to the show or Jason, and the Jason stuff is over now, so she needs the show to keep her brand out there. It would only be a one/two season deal though, to give the show a kickstart, boost/rehab her name & image, and plug her products. It's sad that Alex has ruled out a return. I'd have liked to have seen her come back either full or part time. I'm quite liking the idea of Dina Lohan, but isn't she broke? Surely, they can find some interesting women married to rich men in the finance industry (New York's is the biggest in the world) that are willing to do the show, like Aviva is. They need to have ties with the cast though. I'm expecting at least 3 of the 7 to get the boot next season. (My money is on Carole, Heather & Sonja with Aviva being demoted) I'd bring back Aviva and try to get Fran Drescher (Reid's first cousin) to film with her as a 'friend of' or give her a full time role, if she'd do it. She might because her latest show got cancelled last year and she hasn't done much since. She'd be brilliant because she's hysterical - having her, Jill, Bethenny, and Ramona on the show would be insane. I'd like to see the cast as: Jill Bethenny (if she wont, then just bring Kristen back) Ramona Aviva Kelly Fran Drescher (if she wouldn't, then a new housewife) Dina Lohan (if she's badly broke, then leave the cast at 6 people) with Luann, Kristen and Sonja as friends of. I'd like a scene with Heather & Carole deciding to step away from the show, to give them a goodbye kind of thing - like OC done with Lauri and Jeana - because I like them, but they just aren't that interesting. We need funny people to join the show. Other than Luann, non of them have been consistently funny this season, none of them are that witty with their insults either. |
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I had to laugh when I saw this GIF of Tamra at the reunion. She's literally screaming this at Vicki yet her face shows absolutely no emotion whatsoever! Lay off the botox!
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Rhoc finale. Feels to soon and this season has been fantastic. The finale was teally really good, it had the right mixture and that dinner was like wow and wtf and even the separate segments for Tamra and Vicki. It truy felt like a finale as it was really the final of rhoc for ever.
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OC finale was really good! Don't have time to do a recap, sadly. If you watch OC then read Shannon's blog! She gave Heather and Terry a lashing! My personal highlight is this:
"To say words and then insinuate that we would have to look them up is truly offensive. And by the way, a thesaurus is used for synonyms. What we would actually need to look up the big words Heather and Terry used would be a dictionary." Miss Fancy Pants just got schooled and educated. Can't believe there wasn't a Lost Footage for RHONY! This doesn't look good, the last show not to have one was Miami & S4 of NY. |
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The cast for the second season of #RHOMelbourne was officially announced today.
http://www.irealhousewives.com/2014/...season_20.html Looking forward to seeing Pettifleur Berenger, she seems quite interesting. |
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OC finale was really good! Don't have time to do a recap, sadly. If you watch OC then read Shannon's blog! She gave Heather and Terry a lashing! My personal highlight is this:
"To say words and then insinuate that we would have to look them up is truly offensive. And by the way, a thesaurus is used for synonyms. What we would actually need to look up the big words Heather and Terry used would be a dictionary." Miss Fancy Pants just got schooled and educated. Can't believe there wasn't a Lost Footage for RHONY! This doesn't look good, the last show not to have one was Miami & S4 of NY. So many rumours abt Rhoc from Tamra being fired to Tamra and Shannon signed on and all the cast invited. Heather is holding out for money whilst Vicki's salary is being cut. Who knows? Given Rhoa, Rhonj is shown on Mondays, Rhoc and Rhobh on Mondays, and Rhony and Rhom on tuesdays... perhaps next year will be: Sunday - RHOA and RHOC Monday - RHONJ and RHOBH Tuesday - RHONY and RHOM if they both get another season. |
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Vicki has signed on for next season already. She confirmed it on her Facebook account the other day.
Shannon also said she wants to come back, so most likely is. She actually said that, as far as she knows, everyone is coming back. The only one I would be surprised coming back is Lizzie. The Dubrows will be back, they're just butt-hurt that the edit didn't protect them against the Beadors, and that the fans turned on them. Alexis has called Tamra out a few times too - all in retaliation to Tamra's claims though. She said she appreciated Tamra's apology but said if Tamra was genuinely sorry she'd pick up the phone. Tamra also claims she sent Alexis apology gifts, which Alexis said never happened in a direct response to Tamra's tweet claiming otherwise. So, I can see Alexis possibly returning in a friend role. I appreciate that Tamra brings drama but it's just gotten so forced lately, her only redeeming thing was her & Vicki but now I'm more interested in watching Vicki & Shannon be friends, so where does that leave Tamra? Orange County scored over 2 million again! Hopefully it can maintain this momentum going into the reunion - which looks to be their best yet! |
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Given their Miss USA backgrounds I'm assuming Claudia will come in as a friend of Kenya. Does this mean no Marlo??? Thats a shame, I always love Marlo's appearances.
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I have always liked Orange County Vicki but disliked Tamara. Vicki's daughter seems an ungrateful madam. I hope she and her husband have gotten there own place now.
On the Beverly Hills series my favourite by far is Kyle but I really dislike the arrogant Lisa Vanderpump. I used to like Adrienne and I never quite understood what happened there when they all turned against her. I felt sorry for Taylor when Russell hung himself leaving her with massive debts, but she seems happier without him. It has always bugged my what part Taylor played as a child actor in Little House on The Prairie. She seems far too thin and I wondered if she was always that gaunt looking. |
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^^ Taylor was never an actress. Kyle had a recurring role on Little House on the Prairie, playing Alicia. Kim appeared in one episode, playing a girl who had one leg shorter than the other and was teased by Nellie Olsen. I only know that because her episode just happened to be on TV recently.
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RHONJ was
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Plus I enjoy seeing all the crappy things someone, like Tamra, has done all in the one go. It really does highlight how awful she can be.

I would of loved to see her with these new women. 