I don't think Andy has that power any more. If the Execs at Bravo want her back, she'll be back. I don't think he'd entertain the idea of her on WWHL if he did.

Jill's friends with Luann and gets on with Sonja too. I don't see how it would work with Jill being back though. The minute she steps foot on set you know Bethenny & Ramona are going to draw the battle lines with her and form an alliance. To be fair, I don't think Bethenny has it in her to go at it with Jill anymore, not alone anyway. I don't like how the women are all afraid to properly call Bethenny out, it's annoying. I love Jill, but where does she fit amongst the new party-focused RHONY cast?

What would they call Bethenny out on, I found her usually right in all last seasons situations.

I still think Andy has some involvement with cast choices he is executive producer after all maybe not 100% but he's certainly part of the reason we have douche bags like Brandi being pushed for years past her sell-by date and the reason he gave Nene a pass when it came to questioning her at Reunions.

I enjoyed the first NJ Teresa Checks In episode. Milania, as ever, is the star of the show. I thought everyone came out of it looking good - even Joe Guidice, who always came across as someone who'd rather the cameras weren't there during the years.

I know he only agreed to do this show for the money but I was pleasantly surprised at how open he allowed himself to be on camera. Gia has proven herself to be a very mature young woman probably thanks to her current situation. Teresa herself, only heard via phone calls, even managed to sound just like the humorous Teresa we've all watched before.

One word that would sum up the entire family - humbled.

My only criticism would be the inclusion of Melissa and Joe. It seems rather desperate on their part to be seen on camera, to be seen as caring and loving when they probably don't look in on the family all that much when the cameras aren't there. All very fake and phony. You could sense the Gia and Joe seemed uneasy but wouldn't call them out on it.

I like Bethenny, but she was in the wrong sometimes. However, what I meant was that they never called her out when they had an issue with her. They'd gossip to each other and in their talking heads - or say something then do a 180 within a minute - Ramona being the worst offender.

For sure, he has influence, but not the deciding vote. If he did, Teresa Guidice would have been gone years ago, as would Kenya & Luann have been. The issue I have with Andy is that he finds it very hard to be impartial, especially on RHONY reunions.

Speaking of Teresa Guidice, her show tanked in the ratings. It scored lower than the Manzos season 1 premier - in fact, it scored lower than most housewives spinoffs in their first seasons. Joe Guidice was on WWHL blaming the Gorga's for this happening - then quickly backtracking when he got called out. It's hard to buy their 'ownership' mantra when they keep slipping up blaming others and asking why this happened to them. It's only the kids I feel sorry. The other two are as bad as each other.

RHOC finale was alright. at Billies girlfriend. Girl, that vodka & red bull gave you balls, not wings. The way Shannon stormed at Vicki was like she was going to open a can of whoop ass on her. Seriously though, Shannon came off a little crazy. Where did Heather's disdain for Vicki come from? I really like Heather (my fave of the cast), but I'm starting to get the feeling she only feels comfortable having a go when she has a group (Alexis, Shannon, Vicki) and that's not cool. I need her to climb off that fence and get involved more next season. I think next season they need 6 wives. They need to have more than 1 storyline as well. This season started off great but went down hill towards the end. Apparently, Gretchen is in talks to return - and she's getting along with Vicki now.

A new RHOA snippet was released and surprise surprise Porsha was getting violent with someone.
Ladies of London has lost it's momentum, imo. The new Caroline is an oddball. I'm still trying to figure out if her over the top accent is real or not.

Agree about them not facing Bethanney if they had issues with her, they all seemed to fear her.

Fleming on LOL is a bit fake but I think the accent is legit due to her living in both Denmark and the UK. What bugged me was how she made it seem all her kids had the one father when they don't. She simply said her "children's father lives in London", also going for a younger dude after being bitten by the Nicklas Bendtner relationship (the baby dad she's pretending doesn't exist) seems a but stupid and I actually buy Marissa saying he was douchey even though we haven't seen him and I don't like Marissa.

I also agree the show has plateaued somewhat but I guess Fleming vs Marissa over the "lock up your sons" thing with be new drama.

Sorry to jump in with a change of tack but does anyone watch the Housewives Of Orange County?

I was delighted yesterday to see a brand new series on ITVBe- where Briannna gave birth to baby Troy.

But Gretchen!! Arguably the most beautiful of any Housewife on any series- her shorter haircut looked fussy and ageing and she appeared to have a facelift. Why do ladies in their 30s think they need such drastic plastic surgery in America ?? She didn't need it and it certainly hasn't improved her, quite the opposite.

Alexis long bob looked sleek and sexy though and I do feel the ladies ganged up on her in Puerto Rico. Her husband Jim is a controlling sexist fool I feel but Alexis really copped it in the last series I thought and feel jealousy may have been at the root of that confrontation.

Good to see Brooks out of Vicki's life- he was clearly an opportunist out to get his hands on Vicki's money although apparently they end up back together before the series is out.

Is anyone else addicted to the OC Housewives?

ITVBe are a few series behind, I think that's season 8 (Gretchen and Alexis' last) you're watching, we're about to get the season 10 reunion (which looks so good). Brooks has a break from the show for a couple of years but was pretty much the main focus on season 10 if you keep watching! I think him and Vicki are finally done for good now. Also loving Ladies of London, Julie and Fleming are great additions, but I like them all!

I don't see how Vicki can recover from this season of Orange County.
It seems she has burned all her bridges like Brandi did in BH.

Sorry to go OT but does anyone know where/how I can get Mob Wives to watch online? I want season 3 but any searches seem to need US Amazon or US iTunes. I'm not savvy on any, um, alternative ways.

Happy to be PM'd if anyone is kind enough to help - thanks

I think they'd sooner recast the rest than fire Vicki. Bravo & Andy love her and she's the OG of the OC. Plus, if Alexis can come back from season 7 then anyone can.

I'm kind of hoping they get rid of Tamra. I don't mind her but she's predictable and is definitely outstaying her welcome. Fancy pants needs to kick it up a notch as well.

I think it's time 1 of the main 4 (Vicki, Tamra, Heather and Shannon) leave to freshen up the show. Or keep them and add two more interesting women. The dynamics on the show need to be shaken up because this season was pretty stale. It's almost sad to see Vicki's 10 season milestone being celebrated like this. I'm holding out for a Jeana Keough return though. I always remember when she called Vicki's son's girlfriend the 'future ex-daughter in law' to her face LOL.

Well the first part of the OC reunion was just ok. Vicki talking about her mother was touching and the story about her getting arrested was funny. The highlight for me was Alexis' e-mail. That was hilarious and I can't stand Tamra so I loved it. Signed Jesus Barbie just topped it off.

Ah thankyou.

I honestly had given up all hope and did not expect to see past series seven. When series 8 appeared casually without any fanfare on ITVBe last week I jumped up and down.

As I am( shamelessly) addicted I keep note of what's going on to a degree and know Gretchen and Tamra are at each others throats again in real life! I think Tamra is quite a calculating vicious lady and it may sound pessimistic of me but I don't think her and Eddie will last.

As for Brooks..I am glad Vicky had decided to finally give up on him. He may make her happy but that's because he just tells her what she wants to hear! He is clearly just a gold digger after her money.

Its a shame they axe Gretchen and Alexis after this series its nice to see Alexis looking more content and Jim seems more relaxed , he even made a joke I think he has a controlling nature though and I dislike that intensely although Alexis seems to deal with it rather well. She doesn't seem to realise that Jim ordering her to change her clothes etc is not healthy behaviour.

I still detest Slade, job or no job!

I agree even though I am two series behind you!

She is toxic and so negative. I am happy that she escaped Simon's controlling clutches and is now happy with Eddie (for now) but she can go and be happy elsewhere! She brings too much conflict and I know these shows thrive on conflict but I just feel Tamra has had her time.

I am not familiar with Shannon but have never warmed to Heather. She seems to think that just because her husband and herself are terribly rich that she is better than everyone else. I sense that her husband annoys her too. I think she would be a nightmare to live with.

I seem to be alone here when I say I love Tamra. Yes, she's bitchy, mean, narcissistic and obnoxious but she's also funny and isn't afraid to share everything with the viewer. I was surprised she opened up about her daughter at the reunion. I'd imagine that would be humiliating to be rejected by your own child.

I enjoyed Part 1 of the reunion. There was the right mix of Housewives drama and comedy. Alexis' e-mail was actually the highlight. I can see Alexis making a few appearances next season - possibly to shoot some early scenes with Vicki, and some with Tamra - so they can fight over who loves Jesus more!

Heather is without doubt my least fave housewife of ALL the franchises (Tamra not far behind). She treated Alexis like dirt and was so awful to Shannon last series as well, she is beyond manipulative and nasty in my opinion. Can't stand Terry and his giant ego either but I feel sorry for him in that relationship!

Brandi's back on RHOBH.
http://www.usmagazine.com/entertainm...hills-20152110

"But even with those additions, Glanville’s spunky energy was missed, says a second source: “Producers brought her back to bring in some drama and liven things up.”"

No surprise, she's the main reason the show has been entertaining the past few seasons.

I used to love her. Until she threw the glass of wine at Jeana - I even liked her after that. Since around season 8/9 she stopped being authentic. It's the fake crying that wants me rid the most. I cringe.

As I say, OC needs a shake-up.

Not surprised about BH needing a shake-up with Brandi. By all accounts (new reports), this season may be worse than season 4. Totally deserved though. Who fires the two main stars (in terms of storyline)? Looking forward to the season and hope I'm wrong as BH is my fave,

Tamra is a fantastic HW. She doesn't care what anyone thinks and just says whatever. I honestly think it would be a huge loss if she was fired.

OC does need a shake up, but Vicki cannot go. She IS the OC just like Ramona IS New York and Teresa IS NJ.
Heather has always been pretty mehh to me. Ditch her.
A Vicki, Tamra, Shannon, Gretchen and Alexis season would be hilarious!

I can't see them get rid of anyone for OC next season. Vicki is the OG, Tamra always brings drama, Shannon brings the kookiness, Heather brings an air of class - and even Meghan, despite taking a while for me to warm to, managed to completely turn the tables on Vicki. Vicki always hazes the new girl but Meghan pulled so many receipts on her this season.

I like Meghan. Being the new girl must be tough and she could of easily turned around and backed down to Vicki but ddaaaayaaaam. She has got huge balls haha

That would be good actually, plus one new housewife. It seems as though Gretchen coming back is a real possibility, plus her and Vicki seem to have made up bizarrely (on twitter anyway). As long as fancy pants is gone I'll be happy.

Brandi now claiming some of the RHONY cast are druggies, she is such an attention seeker. If I was Eddie I'd want full custody she's unstable, earlier in the week on twitter her 12 year old was off on his first date and she told him to ask if his date was a virgin or not.

http://www.sheknows.com/entertainmen...st-of-drug-use

Wow, Lauri's (OC) son still has drug issues so she and George are raising their granddaughter. Sad.

http://www.bravotv.com/the-daily-dis...-sons-daughter

Kristen isn't returning to NYC. Probably doesn't want to discuss her hubby's Ashley Madison indiscretion.