It was good of Alexis to get together with Tamra to try and work out their differences and at least be civil with one another but Tamra wasn't having any of it.

I really dislike Tamra sometimes. I think she is most likely jealous of how Vicki and Alexis have become closer as well as the once close relationship between Gretchen and Alexis.

I remember from one of the 'reunion' episodes at the end of one of the seasons a couple of years ago when Jeana said that Tamra can only have one friend at a time. How true.

Its just come to me,Briana's new hubby looks like a young Mark Harmon ,its been bugging me

Yes! And not long after he appeared on the show and they were being driven somewhere, Tamra was yapping on and on about a row she'd had with one of the housewives, Eddie told her to chill, or relax, or something, and she was quiet for about a minute and then off she went again yammering about it all again. Eddie just turned his head and looked out of the window as if to say, oh for gods sake woman, are you never going to let up! I've liked him since then. I'm also very surprised he's still in the picture at all. Tamra is a nasty piece of work and Eddie seems to be well grounded and fair. Too good for her imo.

I'm very sad to see Gretchen joining in with all that. She should at best have said nothing. Poor Alexis, I'm not a massive fan either but she's harmless and not nasty, unlike Vicki and Tamra.

I wish I had found this thread before! I have seen all of NY, catching up on OC on ITV2 and have just set my series link for NJ after reading this. Can anyone tell me what series it is? Also, how do you all find out when it's going to be on? I hate how they are all over different channels.

I don't follow the TV i watch them online at watchseries as i'm from the UK and we're always behind. Regarding NJ no matter what series it is your in for a treat! Those women are nutters, they make Ramona look sane and calm. If it's series 4 your in for 20 episodes of Teresa bashing lol. She's great though, you get what the others are saying but you can't help but side her but at the same time go 'what the hell Tre? why do that?'. NJ has become favourite it really does make NY & OC look dull.


EDIT: Also recommend watching this link for the infamous table flip by Teresa http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXCet3ekQ0E

Been meaning to post all week on NJ and NY, but Ive been so busy! But Oh My God, NJ. that was a finale like never before wasnt it?!

There was so many accusations, conspiracies, etc flying around I really dont know who to believe. Im still team Tre though I just cant help it, for 20 episodes its all been "we hate Tre" God, I think if Caroline could blame the economy, global warming and the war in Afghanistan on Tre, she would! For people who hate her so much, they sure spent a LOT of time talking about her!

Caroline Im totally over, she needs to leave the show now. I just dont think I can watch her anymore, shes such a hateful cow. And she can take her family with her, Lauren in particular Id love to slap! Jacqueline also can go. She clearly cant function being on this show, and she needs to step away from the iPhone for a min. Tweeting and texting about Tre constantly. Its obsessive. And I know Tre is just as bad, but I cant help side with her! lol

As for the "set up" was it really all Tre? Frankly, I think not. More like a collaboration between Kim D and the producers. Im also a bit suss on who this mutual friend was that was texting Jac all night? producer intervention maybe? anyways, Melissa insists she cant remember where shes knows this Angelo guy from, then later says she worked in a bikini bar, anyway who cares if she stripped or not. Shes fuming that Tre would even entertain the notion, and decides to call in her hobbit of a hubby for back up. Way to really cause a drama! He turns up, ready to "talk" with this angelo guy, who has conveniantly left by this point. He gets into it with Kim D, calling her a coke whore, scum etc. He propably had a point mind, and Kim D was LOVING all this drama. I still think she was way more involved in this than Tre.

Jac, still recieving these strange txts, tells Melissa that Tre knew 2 weeks in advance that something was going down and that she was going to be set up. Which leads Tre to accuse Jac of being in on it, and maybe they are all trying to set Tre up?! Who knows. They are all crazy. Caroline of course is standing idly by watching all this, chiming in every now and then with a comment about how "disgusted" she is at Tre. Anyway, theres much shouting in the streets, and slamming of car doors and at the end of it, everyone is vowing that they are done with Tre for good. Tre insists she hates her brother. Its all just quite sad and depressing. I do kind of feel for Tre though, shes had a whole year of these women taking shots at her and basically calling her the devil.
I think shes going to come out fighting at the reunion though, and I cannot wait for it! Shes throwing bitches under the bus and its going to be brilliant to watch!

Moving to NY. What has happened to Aviva, she lost it big time. Shes a lunatic. That tea with Ramona was just and maybe she had a few valid points, but she didnt exactly cover herself in glory either. Its a crazy situation when Im siding with Ramona, but I was on her team watching that! Ramona is insane, but we all know that. Aviva went above and beyond.

As for sending her awful father to Ramonas event to procure an apology?! Is she for real. She must have known what would happen. Ramona lost it, and I dont blame her. Id have had him thrown out aswell, I loved Sonja getting in her line about "white trash doesnt apologise"

Poor Sonja, I feel really quite sorry for her. Her ex is obviously a total loser, and yeah, tally, I think your right, hes loaded and is at least 70. He should know how to behave. She seemed genuinely gutted when he didnt show up to their meeting, and Im glad shes going to sue him. About time! I also liked the scene with her and Luann, when she was having the paintings taken down. She and Luann seemed to have quite a genuine friendship, and it was nice to see Lu drop the "countess" act to be there for her.

Looking forward to the finale, looks like its going to be good. Ive really enjoyed this season, a slow start, but the drama certainly ramped up. Absolutely love Heather and Carole. Please Bravo, get these two back next season!

Oops, meant to put this in my post above.

Anyone watching Miami season 2? So far Im really enjoying it Its much better than last season and really like the new girls. Well, except Karent, Im not sure about her yet, and she really needs to get out of this delusion about her man, I see that ending in tears!

Ive still got this weeks ep to catch up on, but I really like it. And its such a nice change of pace compared to NJ

Ive seen that happen before its called table tipping it happens a lot at ghost haunts

I think Tamra is very nasty, and she clearly thinks she is being funny, but the way she goes after someone is not nice. Alexis is daft and full of herself but I do not think there is anything malicious about her, and I am struggling to see why Tamra has it in for Alexis so much. The nasty gleeful smile Tamra gets on her face when others are saying horrible things about Alexis is not pleasant.

The "one friend" rule seems to make sense. Particularly when thinking about the painting party and her revealing the friendship with Gretchen; Tamra practically rammed Vicki's face into the fact that Gretchen and her were now new BFFs. Childish - if Gretchen means that much to Tamra then so be it, but it seemed the thing that meant the most to Tamra was getting a reaction from Vicki.

I think the next episode will make for uncomfortable viewing when the women gang up against Alexis.

Thanks! I am looking forward to watching it!

I just watched part 1 of the NJ reunion. One word - INSANE

Buckle up and put on a helmet because the accusations and insults were flying - not to mention death threats!

That was crazy! You gotta laugh a Tre still not acknowledging anything she has done thought. Lauren was totally out of line bringing Tre's kids up. The girl needs to learn what is & isn't inappropriate. Is the reunion over 3 nights or 3 weeks?
Cannot wait for the next episode.

Loved the NJ reunion, wish we didn't have to wait so long for the rest!

Just watched today's OC. Heather is offended by Alexis being a phoney but will quite happily listen to bitchy comments from Tamra. Hmm, not impressed. I see that new BFFs Tamra and Gretchen now wear matching outfits.

Wait until the reunion, they swap hair styles and wear the same colour dress.

Also I'm a little confused, do people like Tre?
because I thought they did, I do, but I've read a 2 or 3 articles where they've claimed she's the most hated housewive of all time... :

I thought Tamra was vile in yesterdays episode. It's quite sad to watch a 40+ year old woman acting like a 16 year old school girl in the playground.

Why does Tamra always have to have an arch enemy? First it was Gretchen, then it was Jeana and now it's Alexis. I think it's pretty obvious that she has turned her guns on Alexis because she is green with envy at Alexis and Vicki's new found friendship, hence why she has now also started being vile to Vicki.

It's sad to see Gretchen being cold and stand offish towards Alexis because up until she made up with Tamra, Gretchen was great friends with Alexis. I really hate how Tamra influences people around her but even more annoying is that those people go along with it. Heather and Gretchen need to grow backbones.

I've seen every episode of RHOC and I've noticed that all the real bitchiness only started taking place when Tamra joined the show in Season 3.

I watched it and thought " There are no words"
Really, how on earth can you even begin to describe it.

I see Jaq has found her inner fishwife. Showing the trashiest traits of her Las Vegas background there. Oh and Lauren is turning into a minimother....gawd help us all.

I love how everyone in their 'talking heads' segments are like ''Oh, that Teresa! What a character eh? '' - When their general opinion of her now is so far from removed from that. I guess Teresa's beastly reaction just helped the others in their assassination of Danielle at the time.

These women are simply thugs in cocktail dresses.

Having said that, they make brilliant television. There's no way in hell I would want any of them as friends or even worse, family. But I love watching them.

Rumours about Season 5 have surfaced online. I can't remember which site I read it on so don't take this as a gospel but casting for the season took place months ago - in order for producers to wrap up the departing housewives' storylines at the reunion. Teresa is safe. There is no way Bravo will want to let her go - even though producers absolutely hate her and Juicy Joe! Caroline was asked to return but declined. She apparently wanted to leave at the end of season 3 but stayed on the show in order to secure business ventures for her children with the BLK water and Lauren's beauty salon. Jacqueline is out, as is Kathy. Although it's been suggested Kathy will be back in a minor role next season, possibly as a ''friend of the housewives''. Melissa is also returning - but season 5 will totally switch gear.

Producers put out a casting call for any potential new housewives to attend the Posche Fashion show. That creepy Angelo guy wasn't the only person from Melissa's past to attend. Apparently the place was packed full of old friends of Melissa's - all eager to expose her past. Many believe her ''Thank you Jesus'' routine is bull. It looks like season 5 will definitely not be Melissa's year.

It's funny you say that only Melissa and Tre are back because they're the only two ticked for season 5 on Wiki. (I know its unreliable most of the time.)

It's a real shame about Kathy. She was one of my favourite housewives until the reunion, she was just hitting low blows with the parent slagging. imo anyway.

I wonder if Kim D will become part of the main cast as she hates Melissa as well but in the same respect Melissa will need friends as well as Tre because I don't wanna watch another 20 episodes of bashing one housewive, even if it is Melissa. Kinda sad Caroline and Jac aint returning since they've been there from the start even though I don't like them but it was obvious it was them or Tre.

If Kim G is still around, I say bring her back. That would cause fireworks. I hope Dina comes back now Danielle & Caroline have left but I don't see it happening. Season 5 needs to have new housewives that are actually friends with the housewives though, I don't want another NY where they don't know each other because what makes NJ different is that they know each other and have history together.

Teresa's interview on The Wendy Williams Show from Monday.

I love how brutally honest Wendy is with her in this clip. At times you think Wendy has guts to say some of things right to Teresa's face.

''Oh, nobody would want to see your cooking show!''

Just found this online. Again, don't take it as gospel...

Mmmm

To answer a few other posts, I had a catch up of all 3 Miami episodes last night. It's better than series 1 but I'm not sure about it yet. It's all so pleasanr so far and I dont root for any of them. Hate psychic Mum though and the Mum who looks as if she can smell rotting fish when her daughter brings her man around.
Will I keep watching? Hell yes, I have NO willpower when it comes to the HoWives!

I used to loathe Tre and her brats. But after Zleb Apprentice I had a different attitude to her. She's dim as a broken lightbulb, but she's a grafter and was totally different, really willing to follow orders and pleasant. Unlike Nene Leakes on the previous series she doesn't keep harking on about being Donald Trump's new BFF though. (Nene was wonderful until she spoilt it by quitting. She and Star Jones had one of the most poisonous feuds ever! Television gold.)
Tre is single handedly keeping that family going as Juicy seems to be doing sod all apart from putting it around. ( Cant wait for the part of the Reunion when the men are on).
And I feel compassion for anyone who is so out and out bullied. Yes, Tre brings a lot of it on herself but Caroline and her puppet Jaqueline have been utterly vile while the rest of them jumped on the bandwagon. Tre will never master the concept of thinking before she speaks.
So, much like Kim in Atlanta, I've done a U Turn.

New York finale was a lot tamer than I thought it would be after last week. I looked back on my early posts and boy have my opinions changed. Loved Aviva, now I loathe her. Opposite with Heather- I LOVE her now. I've flip flopped over Sonia although Ramona and her would drive me mad in real life.Carole has turned out to be a bit wishy washy and a fence sitter. She isn't bitchy enough for this show.
Is Lu on the way out? (Please, please, please!) only she's hardly been featured in the last few episodes. Looking forward to the Reunion shows though.

Tamra has to be top dog, she is pure evil, always thinks she is right, Gretchen should have learnt from last series, Heather is the Materialistic one, Vickie should realize she is getting old, Eddie, well not sure about him, its what he does with his mouth and facial expressions makes me wonder about him, Are these people for real

Agree about Carole. I'm not sure she watched the show before coming on it. Not sure whether she'll be kept next season or if any of them will really. Well, except Ramona.

I think Lu's had enough of it all tbh. However I did read that Luann has it out with Carole at the reunion, something to do with Carole talking behind her back. Think it was Bravo it was on, not sure though.

As much as I love Heather & Carole, I do think NY needs a new cast.