I'm sure I read somewhere that OC's Alexis had been holding out on signing up for the new season so producers would bump up her salary. But it backfired on her when producers weren't playing into her hands and she kind of had to backtrack and ask to return.

Anyway, is The Real Housewives of New York getting cancelled?

I love how this story reeks of Jill Zarin's sh**-stirring!

Apols if this is not new but been away for ages! New show about plastic surgeon's wives...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/ar...labia-jar.html

Only Alexis that would happen too, lol!

Interesting comments on that article, especially this one (which I agree with):

--"I don’t care what anyone else says, the minute Bravo decided to fire Jill and keep Ramona was the minute they killed this series. Ramona is a unstable woman who screams a lot, at least Jill was giving viewers the drama they wanted. And I know some people have the “if Jill comes back, I’m not watching mentality” but look at the numbers. Obviously more people than just those of us who read and participate here watch and those people are the ones that gave up on the series (as I’m sure some of us readers did too). The ratings tanked last season and the cast was boring. The Real Housewives franchise is about opulent women who spend lots of cash and do lots of fun things and argue in a way that keeps us interested, these women on RHONY did none of that. People fighting over royalty titles (really? “Royalty” does not exist in America, moving on), an 80 year old pervert making story lines? A woman hooking up with random men while trying to get pregnant with her boyfriend, while in her late 40s? These are not REAL or relatable. Oh and lets not forget a 2 year story of the imaginary toaster oven. Come on now, none of these story lines were the least bit interesting, humorous at times, but never giving the impression “I can’t wait to see what happens next.”

RHONJ and RHOBH have relatable story lines (family issues on both), or at least give viewers more of an opinion. With RHONY, its just like, who cares? It doesn’t matter if Heather or Sonja were right because the toaster doesn’t exist. Who cares if Luann hooked up with a pirate, she’s not engaged or pregnant.

"I just think this series took a turn for the worse when Kelly, Jill and Alex were let go (Cindy was eh). They at least brought that opinion-forming drama out of viewers, and that’s what Bravo strives for. If people take sides and debate, then that makes for a good series, not this bs they tried having last season."--
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The general opinion seems to be that the last season lacked. The women had next to no chemistry, the events where crappy and the only moment of the season that is memorable was Aviva's white trash remark. Her pervy father is a no no as well. I hope they fire them all and completely re-cast because what NY lacks that NJ & BH (the best) have is a cast that connects and has an emotional connection rather that 5 women who don't give a crap about each other.

Love Jill for making up that article *if she did*. You gotta love Jill. Whether it's loving Jill for being jill or loving to hate Jill. I don't why Bravo don't suck it up & hire her because even 2 years after being fired for the NY show she's still the most talked about thing from it. Plus imagine her ego if they did! It would be Jilltastic to watch!


...maybe I'm bias because she's always been my fave from all the shows.

That's what I need to know too ddj. I'm watching the BH ones at the minute on ITV2 but they're repeats. The one yesterday was at Camille's house in Colorado when they were skiing. I know I've seen further epis where (Carole?) was bragging about the price of her sunglasses, and then where Brandi joined and Kim hid her crutches (not funny) but I think that was the last series I saw. I've had a look at the Bio (156 on Sky) channel too but can't see anything much there either. Help anyone? I'm addicted and need my fix.

PS. I know she's very popular on here but I just don't like Lisa. I think she's a trouble maker.

Instead of axeing it, I'd scrap the whole cast and start afresh... apart from possibly Ramona can't help but laugh at her!

ddj and Jequila check your PM's

Thank you tally! - I replied to your pm, hope you got it ok.

Ditto, i think she is far too smug for my liking. I also think and wonder how they have soooooo much dosh, i am sure her husband is a gangster or ex gangster and Cedric probably knows a whole lot of their dirty dealings.... ... i trust no one me

Just done catch up on today's BH where Taylor had her mini breakdown in Beaver Creek (what a lovely name - like a porn star ) .... quote from Kyle 'I know Taylor is in a mess, but come on, we are on vacation' .. yep Kyle is all heart.

Also just finished watching the final episode of NJ on Bio (season 3) -- so behind, going to have to catch up online now. The one where Teresa slags off Caroline in her book about being 1/16th Italian. I don't get it could someone explain - thanks

That's not a bad idea. Except given the telly gold that she is, I'd only want Ramona kept on if Jill came back. I agree that Bravo made a BIG mistake getting rid of her. Especially keeping Lu - she's not only useless, but painful to watch.

Funny how we all have different takes on people: I love Lisa, and I love Teresa!!,

This weeks' Atlanta was really entertaining I must say... So the feud between Phaedra and Kenya is still galloping on. It's donkey versus stallion. Let's be honest here, Kenya totally upstages Phaedra in the booty stakes. Kenya's ass is of epic proportions and whilst Phaedra's is decent, Kenya's does look ''kadonkulicious'' (I guess that's the only word I can use to describe it). They are, however, both at fault here. Phaedra expecting Kenya work for free on the work-out video was wrong but Kenya then retaliating by copying the idea doesn't exactly give her the high ground.

The big moment of the episode came towards the end when they both come face-to-face at the charity event. I think Kenya is totally cuckoo for coco pops but her response to being called a copycat - dressing up as Pheadra and pointing out her contradictions in doing so - is a shrewd move on a show like this. The other ladies reactions to the whole scene was hilarious - Nene, as ever, manages to get a slice of the action with her summary in her talking head segment.

On a side note - Porsha makes a rookie mistake in helping Cynthia with the beauty pageant. A story like this has probably been done in all the franchises. One housewife will ask another for help and will inevitably fall out when she doesn't pull her weight.

Over in Beverly Hills the girls head off to Vegas for the trial of Brandi's night school for girls - which basically sounds like a hen party, a pole-dancing class and night out drinking cocktails. The funniest line throughout the whole episode came from Lisa - ''are we not doing the stripping at the Palms so Adrienne won't get offended?''

Brandi makes Marisa aware that it comes across she doesn't love her husband as much as he loves her. It's a fair point to make. I don't understand why though, I think her husband Dean is actually kind of cute. Am I alone here? Meanwhile, Adrienne and Paul attend Kyle's daughters sixth grade graduation party (????) Do people do that in America? A party for every little thing? This scene really is nauseating - the Maloofs thanking Faye for having their back with Brandi. UGH! Faye is so smug in this moment. Can you really sit there proudly for making a woman leave a dinner party in tears - just because she TOLD THE TRUTH?

Meanwhile, I'm going to revert back to calling her Yawnda. Does anyone care for her and her creepy husband? It must also be compulsory that all Yawnda scenes include shots of lemons everywhere.

Then there's the senseless Kim scenes where she seems to be having plastic surgery out of boredom. There is nothing about her appearance that she's insecure about but hey, she's bored not drinking anymore so she'll have a bit of unnecessary work done to her face!! Seriously, I think I saw more of my ceiling during this part because I was rolling my eyes so damn much!

It was actually a decent episode - there was no dramatic arguments and HOORAY! No Taylor! Next week looks promising with the return of Season 1 Camille!

Please can anybody let me know how I can watch the show online? xx

When did adrienne get jackpot? I remember paul got her the big dog as a present and she was so grateful and loved it. She said it was the best gift ever. Now she wont let it in! Shes always seen with the little dog and doesnt seem fussed about the other one anymore.

Adrienne changes so much. Sad to think she's shacking up with Sean Stewart, he's always seemed to be an aimless rich kid or lost. Somehow cant see this fling lasting very long.

Was it a holiday weekend or anything because I've had no luck getting any of the Bravo shows this week. Dying to see how booty fights end in Atlanta, whose DVD gets made etc.

tally Ive sent you a PM

Oh, and a heads up to all of us watching US pace, its the Superbowl this sunday in the US so no new Atlanta till Feb 10th

Need to catch up on BH and Atlanta so ill post when I have!

Saw BH today, sorry but who pays $25,000 for sunglasses and then boasts about it?!

Lisa's husband looks like an 80s porn star and her ski outfit looked like it belonged in the 80s too.

OK..so the shows on ITV2 are a year or so old...are any of these couples still married? Or is everyone divorced? lol

RHWOBH: Three divorced (including Brandi), two still married, one widowed

which ones?

Lisa and Kyle still married as is Yolande (yawn).

Camille, Brandi, Adrienne and Kim divorced

Taylor, widowed, though as they'd already split up she's only technically a widow.

BH this week was relatively pleasant. The trip to Vegas might be one of the more amicable trips they've made and Taylor was mercifully quiet.
Brandi is so insecure isn't she? I love her for all her faults, unlike the borefest that is Yolande. Please dont bring her back next season, I feel I'm being lectured on healthy eating 24/7. As for her fawning over her fugly ( but multi-millionaire) husband, YUK. Get a personality darling, you can be more than an appendage to him. No fun!

Wasn't impressed with Kim. It was like she was bored, so thought a trip out to get some plastic surgery would amuse her. I'm glad she's staying away from Kyle though. The only time I like Kyle is when she's in Mum mode and it's obvious she and Maurecio adore their children. The graduation party was quite sweet if you're into these kinds of things. It was unheard of in my day, though I know school proms are all the rage over here too. My godaughter even got a certificate of graduation when she left infant school for the "big school". Personally I think that was a rip off for the photographer who charged the earth for the "official" picture.

What on earth was Camille on about with Lisa not owning Sur? Is there a scandal to come out apart from Adrienne using a surrogate?
And I roared at whoever said Ken looked like an 80's porn star. I've always thought he was gay. No man I know would fawn over a ridiculously coiffed, manicured and designer dressed toy dog without feeling embarrased.

Las Vegas was busy this week. The staff from Sur decamped en masse to celebrate the obnoxious Stassi's birthday. And guess what? There was an almighty fight! Seems it's written into their contracts. I'm Team Jax all the way although I wouldn't be pining for the revolting Stassi. She's a rude, obnoxious, spoilt brat who thinks the world should bow down before her. I'd like to slap her, hard.
Mind they all come across as idiots and shallow airheads. Good fun to watch though At least I think so. Braindead TV at it's finest!

Off to catch up on Atlanta. I'm saving the best till last, I hope.

WOW... that's a lot of drama lol

Vanderpump Rules is about the 20-30 year olds who work in Lisa's restaurant - and they've all f***ed each other at one point.

These people are so ridiculously immature it's almost as if you're watching a cliche-ridden teen soap opera with the mean girls and jock guys. Exactly why they try to involve Lisa in all their petty dramas is beyond me. I don't call my boss during a weekend away to squeal on what the other's have been getting up to!

The show is so infuriating and all the cast are unlikeable that I actually enjoy seeing them frustrated or upset. Everytime they cry it feels like a little hug from Jesus!

This show would've flourished on MTV but I'm not sure it would reach the same Housewives demographic because it's a younger cast with loads of thumping music and shots of West Hollywood.

BIB- OMG that killed me. I laughed so hard! I totally get what you mean! Also, so true, this show would have killed on MTV, it really has that MTV vibe written all over it.

I have to admit, Im enjoying Vanderpump Rules, agreed tally they all come across as vapid, shallow idiots but Oh its fun to watch! Im so team Jax, I kinda love the guy a little, though Ive no doubt he would drive you utterly mad as a boyfriend. Stassi is vile, she really thinks shes It and that the world owes her a favour Cant stand her, you wouldnt tire of slapping her very, very hard!
Worst of it all is that she reminds me SO much of a girl I used to work with- its actually scary. She was a nightmare aswell, we got on well for a time, until we fell out (over a guy ) and then that was it. The battle lines were drawn!

Just need to catch up on BH and Atlanta tonight!