Im on S3 at the moment myself and after watching 3 seasons well nearly i think New Jersey has over taken Beverly Hills for me I still love BH but in terms of drama and good TV every episode NEw Jersey has provided that but i do miss the Danielle drama

LOLOLOLOL Sassy "Kaftans R Us. Love it!


I thought most of the stuff in Kyles' shop was vile, but heck, what do I know about fashion. If it sparkles and glitters it's 90210 apparently. Giggie would have rocked most of those outfits.

ok just finished S3 of NJ. Tre what happened ? i love her though i think she funny and the reunion was kind of awkward i mean for me it was all 3 against 1 yeah what she said in her book was kind below the belt but i dont think it was that bad

watched a trailer for S4...WHY did they not get rid of Kathy? she is so pointless as a HW on the show and i can not stand her husband. Looks like its going to be a Bash Tre Season which is kind of putting me of watching it.

I just read aswel Bravo have kept all the cast with no change for S5... they should of got rid Of Kathy, Caroline and Jaclyn and bring in some new blood keep Tre & Melissa cause i think she's funny and awesome for the show

I dont know why but i always root for the Bitch/Villain of the season of RH

I do like Kathy. I think NJ needs the calm type of housewife as everyone else is just a little... coo-coo for coco pops! Besides, without her we wouldn't have Rosie and I think she's both loveable and frightening at the same time!

Hi I've never posted in this part of the forum ( mainly because I couldn't flipping find it) I pretty much only follow what's showing on ITV2 ) Atlanta is very fast becoming my fave after OC and BH in that order. NeNe is ghetto fabulous in the best possible way and I love it. I got ahead of my my self and decided to wiki the girls ( I DON'T KNOW HOW TO INSERT SPOILER ALERT ON MOBILE SO THIS IS YOUR WARNING) but poor AJ.

Just what is all of the Vancouver women's problem with Mary? After a whole season and 6 episodes of Season 2 I still haven't got a clue?

She lied about getting out of the party from hell, but on a scale of 1-10 I don't think it's a huge deal.I'd have flounced off telling them my real reasons way before. Jody and spawn are beyond rude to her and they say things in such a horrible way that the real people they're hurting is themselves. I mean, who would want to associate themselves with such vile people.

I absolutely loved Mary's song "Hero" and, for the first time in any franchise, I really would buy it. In fact I'm going to see if I can get it on iTunes. Who'd have thunk it? A HoWife with talent.
I also liked Robin. Girl is also a pretty good singer and she isn't hitting on Mary. I cant decide about loulia.

I like Vancouver but part me does think the producers are having fun with this imo im getting pretty bored of it. Just Leave Mary alone and Ronnie...Ronnie go and have a drink im sorry but she P*sses me to a point where i dont give a crap how she was an alcoholic personally i dont believe it i think she likes to play the whole 'I was in Rehab' card to get sympathy.

I find her treatment of mary disgusting and i hate aswel when she goes 'im having an Anxiety attack every time Jodie is arguing with Mary.

Can not stand her 2 faced face anymore herself and Jodie and Amanda need to just move on cause they are bullying Mary.

I like Loulia but yeah im not to sure either i think she will be in-between Robin and Mary and the others like a Yoyo. I hope her loyalty is with Mary.

Just seen this week's Vancouver. These bitches are really starting to get to me with their treatment of Mary, it's horrible to watch.
Jodi is beyond vile and as for calling Mary a bully, she's also clearly got mental issues.
Loving Iolia standing up to the equally moronic and dellusional Amanda. And Ronnie, oh my word, you wouldn't want her as a friend.

Yeah amanda needs to be put in her place and Loulia did it Amanda tries to hard tbh and she wold be nothing without jodi or mia

Just realised my V+ hasn't taped the whole of last weeks Atlanta on ITV2! Raging!

I feel for you. I'm always pretty annoyed if I miss a recording. Fridays will be repeated on Mon morning.

Aren't the episodes on ITV player?

Yeah, got all last weeks so will have a marathon watch tonight! I did realise that it's not taped the week before either, so I've only seen about 4 episodes of series 1. I'm annoyed at myself for not noticing, I know v+ does this sometimes so usually I check all my planned recordings! I'm also a bit more annoyed than I should be, it's only a tv programme after all.

RHOA- I don't think Kandi knows what's she's getting herself into with Kim's singing career, there's going to be a lot earache and regret for Kandi coming up. Interesting to find out more about Lisa's family. I wonder what they'll think of Nene when she's goes to visit. Kim saying that she's split up with Big Poppa....doubt it. When Nene leakes calls you Ghetto" and "A bit....hood" Something is very very wrong.

Just straying away from HoWives at the moment but Dance Moms starts on Bio on Tuesday at 9pm. It'll be either something you love or hate, but you cant remain indifferent, and it will appeal to HoWives fans, I think.

I'm completely hooked, It's currently on it's 3rd year in the States and the Moms are a hoot with their "stage mommyness" desire to push their kids and most of all deal with the little Hitler who owns the Dance Company, Abbie Lee Miller, an overweight, talented choreographer who rules with a draconian fist, imposes awful rules on everyone and whose motto is "everyone is replaceable"

I have to believe it's scripted, because she treats the girls and their mothers appallingly and, if it was real then I think Child Protective Services would get called in. It's obvious just how much the girls(who are adorable and very talented) adore her in some scenes.

Anyway, I'll stop going on about it, just wanted to give everyone a nod to this. It's completely unmissable in my book. Sort of The Real HoWives of Pittsburg, with lots of dance. But you may hate it and the way Abbie treats both her charges and their mothers. I think it's one of those Marmite things. Trash TV at it's best.

Just wrapped up Season 4 of NJ and wow what an Explosive season and what a reunion.

New Jersey has for me overtaken Beverly Hills i just think every episode was always brilliant and no fillers like BH have.

But onto Season 4 I thought it was drama packed but it was the Tre and Joe saga that continued would they wont they reunite. I thought the reunion was 4 against 1 i actually felt bad for Tre i mean yeah she has gone a bit loopy but thats what i love about her I like how she can stand on her own.

I thought the ending of S4 with the whole Poche Fashion show was a COMPLETE set up not only by Kim D but by the Producers I found this very interesting article and it REVEALS who exactly was texting Jaclyn...and it was no other then Dun Dun... an Executive producer!

http://famewhorgas.wordpress.com/201...t-of-interest/

http://jezebel.com/5946024/real-hous...ufacture-drama

Cat Rodriguez is friends with all the Women apart from Tre she hated Tre and she wanted to create the drama and have Tre outed as the one setting all of this up. Also Notice how When Jaclyn is asked by everyone at the end of the final part who sent the texts she could not reveal who My guess is after they wrapped filming maybe Jac was asked by producers who texted her and maybe she said who which led to Cat being sacked.

Im not saying Tre is an angel but i like her i think shes funny and a great person to have on this show i think without her crazy antics this show would not be as fun to watch.

Does anyone know any news on Season 5 at all? i know they are filming and there are no cast changes but apparently producers have had to force all the women into group therapy to help heal the rift caused by the end of S4 as None of the women are talking to Tre which is not good for the show cause if the women dont want to be in a scene with Tre then where do they go from there?

Thats certainly true! For me though, I found season 4 a real struggle, and I used to love the craziness of NJ, it was just SO toxic its beyond belief. It was the "we hate Tre" show and I swear in Carolines head Tre is responsible for everything from the economy to world hunger I have to say Caroline was particularly detestable during season 4.

Teresa does bring a lot of it on herself though, but I just dont think its right the way they went after her ALL season like a pack of rabid dogs. Say what you will about Tre, but shes dynamite on that show, she is NJ, in the same way Nene is Atlanta. Shes also a grafter, and she gets out there, she doesnt sit around waiting on that douche of a husband to make the $$ (lets face it she would be waiting a LONG time) and personally I say good for her going out and making some cash from the tabloids. Also Joe Guidice has to be the most unlikeable husband on all the Housewife franchises. And Im no fan of Joe Gorga either!

The reunion was in its insanity. I think it takes the crown for most toxic reunion over all the franchises, and who thought the season 2 reunion could be outdone?! lol having said that, it was always going to be insane- they hadnt all been in a room together in over a year by the time the reunion happened.

What really gets me about NJ is that these people are family and they are ripping shreds out of each other on national TV. Its the kids I feel sorry for. You can see it with Tre's eldest daughter she is far too aware of the nastiness within that family.


I still dont understand why they didnt clear house after season 4. It was needed badly. Ok, we all know they were never going to get rid of Tre or Melissa, but seriously why would Jacqueline and Caroline even want to come back?! Caroline turned into a psycho, and Jac, well I just dont think she can deal with the show anymore.

From what Ive read Kim D has been added as a "friend" and Tre has been filming a lot with her, and there were pictures leaked of Kim D, Melissa and Tre filming at one of the kids birthday parties I think it was, and it looked like yet another argument was kicking off between them and Melissa.
They must be nearing the end of filming though, its been going on since before Christmas, and I think the show is due to start again around May on Bravo. I cant say Im looking forward to season 5, especially if its going to be another "bash Tre" season, I hope its not though. Ill still watch, I dont have the will-power not to

I'm into Atlanta now. I like Kim & Kandi but the rest of them do my head in. Nene (sp?) is funny but I don't like how she ambushed Kim with Sheree.

Well the stories have been flying about all day about NY.

Sonja Morgan has predicted that Heather and Luann wont be back...personally I hope it's Sonja that isn't. Heather was fun, the night her and Carole went drinking was the funniest and 'realist' thing about last season.

Personally NY need an entire new cast who are a bit younger or aren't so self-righteous and don't care about their image so much. As much as I love Jill Zarin I don't think even she can save this show.


The NJ story seems to fit actually. It would explain Jac's odd reaction to the finale. I think when she got home she realised the producers had manipulated her, blown apart her friendship with Tre (which I believe they were genuinely close) and truly f*cked her over. I think the Gorga's knew as did the Manzo's and they were all in to try and make Tre look the bad one because they were all getting negative feedback during season 3 (which was airing at the time of filming season 4) from the viewers.Kim D was in on it for a place on the show. I'm not sure about Kathy though, she seems too nice. I do love how Tre can hold her own. I'm excited for season 5, apparently Tre has new friends joining so hopefully that evens up the

The article about Andy Cohen having favourites is so true. It's blatantly obvious and irritating.

Only 2 more Beverly Hills left :O !!
Info on the finale:

http://www.allabouttrh.com/photos-sp...-three-finale/

I know everyone hates Faye as do I, but my god she knows how to spice it up!

I think for NJ in Season 6 'if theres one' then i think Caroline, Jac and Kathy should all be axed. Tre has to stay she is New Jersey no matter what anyone says. But Bravo have to be careful with getting rid of so many Characters in one swoop i mean i Heard the New York show after axing was it 3 Housewives ratings declined. People need to be introduced to new HW slowly imo test the waters then bring them in Full time.

As for the producer with stirring the pot that made me so angry when i read up on it i mean it kind of shows what else do they get away with? I know Producers manipulate certain storylines but they do sometimes take it to far. I thought Tre was edited to make worse then she actually was imo.

I might be the only for this but i would like Kim D on the show full time as much as she is annoying she does make great TV along with Tre and i love how she Talks so Jersey 'I love the Jersey Accent' Give her the pot and spoon

I agree about Andy he grates me he clearly does not like Tre ever since she pushed him back on the reunion of S2. I find Andy very one sided which is wrong for a presenter as they should not have favourites or at least make it obvious which he does.

Some online sources have stated that Danielle was filming with Teresa last week!

Oh hell. Danielle may be a step too far, but I threaten to boycott series and just how many episodes of any series of any franchise have I missed?

ZILCH NADA NONE.

Like the HoWives I'm full of hot air. The nearest I've got was to S4 of NJ. It was so awful to watch Tre be so ganged up on, and Caroline was a biatch of the first order. I'd put it down to menopause and empty nest syndrome, but that doesn't excuse her completely vile comments and behaviour, which were soon picked up by her little puppy dog, Jaqueline.

The thing was, away from that toxic lot, I'd really got to like and admire Tre. She'd been on Celebrity Apprentice and made the top four. Her thickness was sort of endearing and she came across as a real grafter. She just stuck her head down and worked and worked. Even The Donald liked her and said she was nothing like the table throwing harridan he'd expected.

With a husband like Juicy it's a good job she's got that work ethic, she's making all the money. He's such a loser. To me Teresa IS New Jersey. I wouldn't miss Caroline and her brats or Jacqueline, at all. Though I do like Chris Laurito, he's one of the decent husbands who are so rare.

After last weeks' hoot fest that was the ladies trip to Vegas, Atlanta was a bit mundane this week. It must be heading towards the finale, surely.

(Kim's spin off "Don't Be Tardy" starts early April. I'll watch that too. I have no taste filter! )

O spare us!! Ive read the same thing about Danielle (meant to put it in my post earlier), I agree with tally, I think its maybe a bit overkill if its true, does this show really need Danielle and all her crazy back? What with Kim D being made a housewife/friend of the housewives, must we have Danielle back creating mayhem aswell?!

I actually think this might happen though , I can totally see a shock appearance by Danielle, maybe for some finale melodrama. Its all rumours at this point obviously, but I have a feeling we could see Danielle on NJ in some form this season. And madness will surely follow

Yup tally, I think we are nearing the finale of Atlanta. They filmed the reunion last week, with Kim in attendance. As Andrew mentioned theres 2 eps left of BH to go, so Id imagine maybe 2 or 3 for Atlanta aswell, then the reunion.

Ill be watching Kims Dont Be Tardy aswell I loved the first season with her wedding prep. Its funny, I dont miss her on Atlanta but Ill happily watch her spin off!

Im going to check out Kandi's show, The Kandi Factory aswell, which airs right after Kims show! Its more of a talent show than a Housewives show, but it looks quite good. I love Kandi, one of the most down to earth, likeable women of all the Housewives, and I hope the show does well for her.

Oops meant to post about Vancouver, Ive just caught up with last weeks ep, I cannot believe the way they are still treating Mary, what the hell did she do?! Shes normal, balanced and talented, compared to the rest of the crazies and thats the only thing I can think of.

I couldnt believe it when Jody called Mary a bully?! Is that crazy bitch for real?! She thinks Mary is a bully, she obviously has a mental deficit. I think someone needs to have a look at her behaviour over the past 1 and a half seasons.....
Shes so vile, and that daughter of hers....Ugh! Loathsome isnt the word.

Ronnie is just such a 2 faced cow, Im starting to have Jody levels of dislike for her. Not feeling Amanda either, but shes so involved with Jody and Mia, thats an instant black mark in my book anyway! Im liking Robin though, I love how shes SO Texan and Ioulia is growing on me aswell.

Porsha might not be the most articulate of people or know how many days there are in the year but the woman is an evil genius and as sharp as they come.

She knows exactly how to push the right buttons to create the reaction she wants to create.