Im just gonna go ahead and say this but I cant stop listening to Tardy for the Party i dont want to like but after watching it become what it is now its so catchy. Its not really a bad record i think cause it was sung by Kim its tacky although she cant sing well she did do good on the track 'even if she was helped by Kandi's producers

And also Kim has really grown on me i disliked her the 1st 2 seasons but she has kind of won me over now she can be delusional but shes also great TV and i like her personality now that im onto S4 Im gutted she leaves this season

The last two itv episodes show just how awful Kim is. She was so nasty yesterday with the way she treated Cynthia about the friendship contract, and the way she was going on about how she's protective of NeNe was ridiculous. Kandi's right, one minute she's phoning the police about her allegedly stangling her, and the next minute she's appalled at someone mentioning that one day she might die The way she acted about the bus and tour today was pathetic as well, it's almost funny to watch how ridiculous she is about everything, as much as I despise her I'm definitely warming to Phaedra as well, being a mum has seemed to somewhat humble her and make her a lot more likeable, she's still far away from Nene, Kandi and Cynthia for me though Looking forward to seeing Nene and Kim's fight in the next episodes, I saw some clips of it on youtube long before itv started showing Atlanta, and it was what made me really eager to see the series

Well OC was astoundingly uncomfortable to watch. All I can say is, f*ck being in that room with those ladies and that harsh lighting. Ouch.

Alexis, I like. However she annoyed me in this episode a few times. Mainly, when she couldn't have just let Tamra have her moment and had to mention her dress line etc. and how it was hard work too. I have to admit if I was Tamra that would have irked me. Why she can't just own the fact she was awful to Vicki is beyond me, of course Vicki told her to bring it on whereas Alexis just pointed out the elephant at the table in Costa Rica so it is different but just admit it because then they won't have any ammo. I was glad that she held her own against those bitches they really are unjustifiably horrid. I love how she kept it classy but I find it sad that you could see it in her face she is sad and afraid of them, especially Tamra which was notable when Tamra went to throw her out.

Gretchen is as vile as always. Not one redeeming quality any more. Why on earth she felt the need to chime in on Alexis is beyond me. I think she needs to go buy the box set and watch it back to remember she was one in Alexis' boots and how miserable it made her.

Heather looked like the girl from the film Orphan with that light on her. She has really fell in my estimation. Alexis said nothing to her and didn't even look at her and she started. Such a mean girl.

Tamra is just classless and disgusting. She can say all she wants she isn't a bully but she is. She always has a 'victim'. It got pointed out by a viewer on WWHL and she knew they were right when they started chiming out names of her hit list.

Vicki is starting to claim back her show I think. She put Gretchen in her place last night and it was fab and it looks like she takes Alexis' side next week. She is the Nene of the show, the last one standing, and she needs to remind these women that and kick them all back into line. Was very disappointed when she let them all go at Alexis. It's like, you invited her so defend her!

Lydia is great. Whoever hired her, Bravo! (Excuse the pun). She seems quirky and fun and interjects life into the show. I felt for her last night, I really did. She seemed bewildered last night and like she didn't want to look anyone in the face incase she was attacked. It was amusing to see her eyes dart around the room. If everyone had looked away for a second she would have ripped those Jimmy Choo's off and sprinted for the hills.

I hope it lightens up a bit because right now it is just..ugh. I want some fun but I feel with Tamra on the show it will never be. I don't even find her insults funny anymore, they're just horrible. I can tell I'm going to hate Brianna's husband in the upcoming episodes. "I'm the man of this house now and I'll decide who comes in and who doesn't"... WHAT?! It's Vicki's house that SHE paid for.

RHOA-Pheadra's sip and see, baby Ayden's coming out party and Kim proving that she trained as a nurse. Pheadra is so judgemental about Kim saying that she's a crazy heffer a stripper at "cheetahs" and Kim's a mistress that's going to hell. When it comes to Apollo, he's the best husband and father. Every sinner has a future. There's redemption, Apollo was innocent, he's a good guy. Kim fluttering her eyelashes at the bus driver Danny so that she can smoke. Guessing she met Big Poppa somewhere classier.

Counselling session with the CSI actor, Cynthia and Peter....is Peter a Gold-digger? Keeping her out of business deals, but asking her for money. What peter loves about Cynthia: her nose lips and eyes...any stranger on the street could say that. Kim smoking and drink singing outside and trying to dance. Kandi's song for her: "I knew it was gonna be a hit the moment I heard it" Didn't Kim hate it, until Kandi changed it? Kim doesn't really need Sweetie [her assistant] her daughter Brielle seems to need Sweetie more, she was crying when Kim told her they both had to go away on tour.

I LOVE the way they talk on Atlanta. I actually get it now aswell, so I more often than not get what they mean. Im used to it I guess.

BumbleSquat- Im the same! I totally find myself saying things like "shade" and "read" more with friends who actually watch the show mind! Agreed about Peters comments aswell, Im really hoping he didnt mean that the way it sounded. Especially after the way Kordell has come across this season. Peter really has been SO much better this season, I used to hate him, but hes grown on me this last season, and hes much better with Cynthia.

I get the feeling Nene was referring to Phaedra needing replaced. The blogs have been going crazy over all the "shade" thats gone down between Phaedra and her trying to get Nene's estranged sisters on the show to dig the dirt about Nene. I think this is going to be a big point of next season, I can see a Nene/Phaedra feud happening for sure.

I really felt for Porsha on the reunion, defending that loser of a hubby of hers, and then a week later she finds out, via twitter that he is filing for divorce! What a loser. I like Porsha, she seems really sweet and she doesnt have a bad bone in her body. Shes much better off without that controlling nightmare and I think them splitting up will be the making of her.

Kenya, well she is crazier than I dont know what, but Oh how I LOVE to watch her! Shes fabulous and brings the drama in spades- she knows it aswell. Andy struck Gold with her, and I loved when she got up and started twirling around again like a crazy person. And shes been texting my Apollo, but shes so entertaining ill let her off with it! You just know she was waiting to out those texts on the reunion.

Im so sad Atlanta is over for another season. Roll on Season 6! And it looks like all the ladies are locked in for next season aswell, cant wait!

I havent had a chance to watch The OC yet, but it looks like its going to be as crazy as I thought it would be.

Oh and Andrew.....you should check out Atlanta, I really think you would enjoy it. For me, its the best by miles. As tally said, the bitching and the drama is still present, but it has a better vibe than some of the other franchises. And you dont feel like you need a stiff drink after watching, unlike Beverly Hills or New Jersey!

OC is crazy. You'll probably need to get a good litre bottle of Vodka if you want to get through it without feeling the tension like you were there.

Ok. Well fellow Howivers, I will give season 5 a go this weekend and report on how I get on.

One thing that didn't sit right with me about Atlanta was when Nene said about the OC 'white women'...I was like, whaaat? Could you imagine if one of the OC women had referred to the Atlanta girls as the 'black/brown women'?


Oh and an interesting article regarding Nene and her sister... http://www.allabouttrh.com/nene-leak...talks-phaedra/ hmmmm, maybe she will be the new housewive? Be careful what you wish for Nene.

OH MY GOD

I've just watched the screaming match that is this weeks' OC. There are literally no words.

You know, sometimes in moments of perspective I think about families fleeing civil war in the Middle East, millions starving to death or scavenging to scrape a living in the Third World and think "why the hell am I watching a bunch of narcissistic, plastic Barbie dolls behaving like they've just been let out of the mental home and haven't taken their drugs.

But then, that's WHY I watch these trash shows- to give my mind a break from all the very real tragedy in the world and to feel tremendously smug while doing it.

It got nearly as awful as the franchise from North of the US that I wont deign to name. Horrible.

BumbleSquat, Andrew, Sassy - great write ups, I have nothing to add, except Alexis must need the money. There is no way in hell I'd have come back after last years' bullyfest (while not forgetting her attack on Vicky a couple of seasons ago). Do you really want your children watching this in a few years?
I actually thought Alexis came out of it OK, and I'm loving Lydia, so far. But not for all the tea in China would I have stayed after the onslaught started. I would have exited the show last year. A quarter of a million bucks isn't anywhere near compensation for having to film with the three witches led by Gretchen and having months of your life taken over by Bravo.
I cant decide who is worse? Gretchen, Heather or Tamra. I hate Eddie with a passion too.

And my oh my, Vicky is back in real Sh1T stirring, "deflect the conflict off me" mode, isn't she?

UGH. I don't have millions of friends, but the ones I do have have zero in common with these backstabbing bunch of morons.

ps. Is it just me or did Slimey look really old? Maybe he's just realised he's got one very sick little son, who may appreciate seeing his Dad without the peroxided harridan around.

Thanks!

I agree, I don't know who's worse either Tally.

Though Gretchen is a real piece of work this season. I was literally gobsmacked when she said if a kid was being bullied and having their dinner money taken then they should sit somewhere else or they're asking for it! is that really the message she or Bravo wants to be putting out there?

He is looking old but isn't he quite a bit older than Gretchen, like 7-10 years older? I wonder what's wrong with his son..mind you the embarrassment of having Gretchen as a stepmother and housewive hunter Slimey as a far won't be helping.

How could I have forgotten this?! The shocked emoticon I just used was literally the face I pulled when she said that!

On a lighter note - this basically sums up Nene Leakes at the Atlanta reunion!

Mines too bumbleSquat!

She is hilarious. Her laugh was infectious.

Grayson, Slade's son has been fighting a rare brain tumour for most of his life. Including the years he didn't pay child support.
He and Gretchen are a pair of douchebags. I once liked Gretchen but now she's well and truly dipped all over in the greed culture and delusion that seems to be what joining the HoWives entails. More on Grayson HERE


On an even lighter note, that took me ages to type. I was temporarily blinded by Nene's pearly white gnashers.

How can anyone have that many teeth in their gob?

And todays lol

So Ive had the day off and caught up with The OC- there are no words for that ridiculous spectacle I mean....really!

Gretchen I am over! What a complete and utter bitch. She has a very short memory if she doesnt recall that only a few seasons ago she was the one in Alexis place. Has she decided to forget Tamra was a bitch on wheels to her for YEARS?! I have a feeling that Gretch and Tamra are going to come to blows again at some point this season, and when that happens I really hope she goes crawling back to Alexis and is told promptly where to go! Gretchen used to be my fave on The OC, but the last few seasons I have rapidly gone off her. Theres nothing nice to say about her, plus shes saddled herself to Slimy Slade, and if that doesnt show shes insane I dont know what does?! Im not even going to comment on the way she was acting when Slade was leaving for a few days to go see his sick child! There are no words.....

Tamra has always been a trashy bitch, but at least with Tamra, in those rare moments when she isnt being a huge bitch, I find her sort of amusing. Not on this ep. Her behaviour was disgusting. She really was like the devil, sitting at the head of that table, backlit by red I swear to God had I been Alexis I would have been arrested, the moment she went to throw her out Id have ripped those trashy extensions out her head!

Heather wasnt much better. She jumped into the whole "mean girl" spirit of this show very easily last season, and the way she is going, Id advise her to take a hard look at her behaviour! She says you are defined by the company you keep? Well, shes hanging out with Tamra/Gretchen so what does that say about her?! The 3 of them together are horrendous. As for Vicki, well she kept it quiet for most of it, as tally said she has reverted to type and was totally in "deflect" mode.

What really annoys me is the way this lot are acting, they are really making me warm to Alexis! haha God knows she is ridiculous and such a wannabe, but she doesnt deserve the way Tamra/Gretchen treat her. Its disgusting. Kudos to her for coming back this season I guess, but after Costa Rica last season I would have been out. Theres no way Id be able to spend any time with those women- not without doing bodily harm to them anyway!

I am really liking Lydia so far though, she was clearly way out of her depth at that party and was looking for the exits! Not that I blame her. Her hubby is really quite cute, and I loved when they had dinner with Heather and Terry, and he basically told Heather she wouldnt be on the cover of their magazine cos she isnt famous enough! Heathers face was a picture!

RHOA-The infamous Nene VS Kim bus tour episode. Peter and Cynthia: I think Peter's trying to emotionally blackmail Cynthia to raise enough money to keep his club open. He's using the wedding as a carrot to dangle in front of her. "If my club stays open, you can have your wedding" Kandi shouldn't have snapped at Kim's assistant Sweetie, but it must be hard for Kandi getting woken up by the song "Don't be tardy for the Party" When she created the song and hasn't been given any money for it.

Nene and Kim, one minute they're best friends, the next...the fight was edited, but Nene wasn't violent. The full fight is posted everywhere. Kim's right, Nene is jealous of her solo career, but if Nene really wanted she could have a singing career, maybe she could ask Kandi. Hardly any Sheree, but editors should put more Pheadra into every episode, there wasn't enough of her.

I have my doubts.

It seems to have backfired on Nene and I'm sure she'll do everything in her power to sink it again like she did during season 4.

Apparently what really happened was the sisters came to the show because they wanted to 'tell all' on how Greg and Nene had conned family members out of money. The show organised it for them to be at Phaedra's party... it was due to be a 'storyline' for season 4. However Nene threatened to quit so it was sunk. The sisters were edited out of the party (as were Marlo and Cynthia for some reason).

Phaedra and Sheree spoke on camera to them however they had no part in bringing them to the show.

It's weird, did her sisters fake a reconciliation to make Nene bring the whole situation up thus bringing attention to it and them? Did she think they'd have her back in making Phaedra the scape-goat? Everyone seemed to think Nene and her sisters had come to an agreement (due to Nene's upcoming wedding show) hence her willingness to go there. Yet the minute she did her sisters jumped to Phaedra's defense and start gunning for Nene.

The rumours are the 'divorce' was linked to this somewhat. There were rumblings over Greg's dodgy dealings in the press at the time and the 'split' was to distance Nene from it.

I really hope Nene is as real as she appears on the show, but I am having my doubts which saddens me, as I genuinely love her to bits. (I say this after a bottle of wine). Hopefully, this is just some hangers on wanting their 15 mins.
I do believe, however that Bravo would do anything to protect her, as she is TRHOA.
That said, this season for me was all about Kenya. Love her or hate her she was fantabulous!

Watching S4 and Nene has not really been involved this season apart form the trips she went on. But when she is involved there is drama which is good for us

I personally dont get the hate on Kim Although she is annoying i think she was a great cast member. Im currently onto Ep 16 and looks like Kim is about to Fire Sweetie. Do i blame her... no from watching it sweetie seems to just be hogging onto Kim for the Money and exposure.

Phadra has really grown on me this season i was not a fan on S3.

Not been watching S8 of OC, but certainly will when it's on ITV2. However, I am glad that Gretchen is coming across badly. Never really liked her, but since she got with the hideous witch Tamra last season she's become even worse!
I do think it will do Vicki well being away from Tamra, who as a previous poster said, is just turning into a cow and her put downs aren't funny anymore.
Towards the end of season 7 my views were:
Vicki = better without Tamra, starting to like her again
Tamra = evil b#tch who can't take any bad word said against her or accept her wrongdoings
Gretchen = BLEURGH, (along with Smiley)
Heather = snob, desperate to please Tamra
Alexis = originally hated, but shockingly I actually ended up warming to her!

Wonder if its the same in Season 8...

As someone who has only began watching OC since Season 8 started a few weeks ago, I can safely say that is exactly the impression I've been getting from most of the ladies.

Also, am I the only one who thinks Heather treats her husband in the exact same way Adrienne Maloof treated Paul? The constant eye-rolling and nitpicking is all there.

dun dun dun... Aviva will be back! Smart of Bravo if the reasoning for keeping her hanging is true.

http://allthingsrh.com/aviva-dresche...hony-season-6/

Another rumoured Housewive for BH.

http://allthingsrh.com/brenda-soleim...season-4-cast/

Not really sure about her, never heard of her. Has anyone else?

Why have they not approached Latoya Jackson? She is friends with most of the wives (Kyle, Kim, Lisa and Yolanda) and her comments about Omarosa showed she can bring the drama and stir shit up.

I think Tara Reid or Kathy Hilton would make good addition, though well all know the latter won't do it.

Not sure who she is either but just cause we dont know who she is doesnt mean she wont be good But maybe a big name would of been good for the show.

I have just finished S4 of ATL and Wow what a reunion that was. Cynthia got on my nerves i mean she only starts shouting back at people when she has NeNe around, As for Marlow that woman needs to just shut her mouth. She is so annoying and such a hypocrite her comments to Kandi were so stupid and so rude.

Neer heard of this Brenda ether and there's precious little on Google.

Am I a complete bitch for reading the headline and thinking "Oh wow" Kyles finally wised up to Stud Muffin Mauricio's extras?

Also she aint getting a spinoff . Thank you Lord!!

Her tacky clothes in her even tackier boutique can fail quietly.

Never even knew Kyle was being considered for her own spin off. Cause it would not do well she aint that interesting to have her own show imo.

Spin off's only work when they are done right I like Dont be Tardy by Kim and i do think its alot better then Vanderpump rules which for me was a huge mess.

I have to agree with Vanderpump Rules. If you take Lisa out of the equation the show probably would've been suited to MTV or something. But it seemed rather forced and unbelievable that Lisa, their boss, would get so heavily involved in their personal lives. No boss would ever want to be bothered - but she was needed in the hopes the BH viewers would follow her.

It's been given a second season so clearly Bravo must've been happy with how it performed anyway.