Formula One FTA Solution?!

rjfisher · 29-07-2011, 19:46

Having seen the news today that as of next year Sky Sports is the only place to watch half the races live I'm trying to find a sneaky solution as I'm not prepared to pay for Sky Sports.

So, I'm thinking that I could setup a secondary receiver and dish/lnb to pick up F1 fta from another european broadcaster.

My first idea was RTL in Germany at 19.2. Am I right in assuming that this is a digital broadcast? Does anyone have a better suggestion of station to go for?

ftakeith2 · 29-07-2011, 19:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by rjfisher

Having seen the news today that as of next year Sky Sports is the only place to watch half the races live I'm trying to find a sneaky solution as I'm not prepared to pay for Sky Sports.

So, I'm thinking that I could setup a secondary receiver and dish/lnb to pick up F1 fta from another european broadcaster.

My first idea was RTL in Germany at 19.2. Am I right in assuming that this is a digital broadcast? Does anyone have a better suggestion of station to go for?

rtl with five live audio

rjfisher · 29-07-2011, 20:02

Just what I was thinking!

I already had a zone 2 big sky dish with quad lnb, thinking of mounting a second lnb for 19.2, seen a few home made mounts so willing to try anything!

peter_sharp1uk · 30-07-2011, 13:06

Would a portable dish be suitable to pick up 19.2?

peter05 · 30-07-2011, 14:14

you could get it on 13deg french TFI HD but you may need a hd box

JamesE · 30-07-2011, 14:34

If you subscribe to Tring for the footy then I think that it's on there.

rob the satman · 30-07-2011, 15:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by peter05

you could get it on 13deg french TFI HD but you may need a hd box

TF1 HD is free to air on 9 deg east only

rob the satman · 30-07-2011, 15:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by peter_sharp1uk

Would a portable dish be suitable to pick up 19.2?

Yes, but anything smaller than 40cm may have picture break up in the rain.
What exactly do you mean 'portable dish'?

rob the satman · 30-07-2011, 15:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by rjfisher

Having seen the news today that as of next year Sky Sports is the only place to watch half the races live I'm trying to find a sneaky solution as I'm not prepared to pay for Sky Sports.

So, I'm thinking that I could setup a secondary receiver and dish/lnb to pick up F1 fta from another european broadcaster.

My first idea was RTL in Germany at 19.2. Am I right in assuming that this is a digital broadcast? Does anyone have a better suggestion of station to go for?

RTL is in digital from 19 east and 13 east, but 19 east is the better option, unfortunately RTL is only available free to air in SD, not HD

TF1 HD is available free to air from 9 east but may or may not still be free to air by next year, another thing to remember about TF! is that they only show the race live, no practice or qualifying

peter_sharp1uk · 30-07-2011, 17:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by rob the satman

Yes, but anything smaller than 40cm may have picture break up in the rain.
What exactly do you mean 'portable dish'?

Maplin sells one for caravans which fits in a suitcase.

rob the satman · 30-07-2011, 17:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by peter_sharp1uk

Maplin sells one for caravans which fits in a suitcase.

can you link it?? no time to look myself right now, sorry

pengwinzz · 30-07-2011, 17:50

Looks like I too will be going down the foreign fta/ftv route for f1 next year

there is a list of national f1 broadcasters here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...e_broadcasters

are RTL and TF1 the only european carrieres that can be picked up fta?

who covers the races in Ireland, Denamrk and the Netherlands?

iirc prior to this years hd coverage, there was a fta world feed that transmitted an upscaled broadcast that was used by cinemas - anyone know which satellite this was broadcasted from?

rob the satman · 30-07-2011, 17:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by pengwinzz

are RTL and TF1 the only european carrieres that can be picked up fta?

Yes, beggars can't be choosers

machare · 30-07-2011, 19:36

I am not sure if I count as a beggar if i pay my licence fee. I object to pay channels being allowed to outbid FTA channels and then hold the viewers to ransom. It is just away for the owners of the pay channel to line their pockets at the expense of the public.

The BBC have ended their present contract two years early, The new agreement runs until 2018. The Director of BBC sport is a woman. I wonder if this was a factor, as motor sport is predominantly male.

RTL had quite a bit of pre qualifying coverage this morning. Radio 5 Live were covering something else at that time.

Red Devil · 30-07-2011, 20:51

Is TV3 (Catalonia) FTA? I guess it is because it says 'clear' (the same as RTL does) on kingofsat, does anyone know for sure?

Can't find details for TV3 HD anywhere.

TV3 HD show every session live, while the SD version just show FP3, qualifying and race live.

rob the satman · 30-07-2011, 21:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Devil

Is TV3 (Catalonia) FTA? I guess it is because it says 'clear' (the same as RTL does) on kingofsat, does anyone know for sure?

Can't find details for TV3 HD anywhere.

TV3 HD show every session live, while the SD version just show FP3, qualifying and race live.

How can I put this, no,

TV3 terrestrial in Spain shows all the sports you are looking at listings wise.

TV3 CAT does not (or very rarely) show any kind of sport, let alone Formula 1 or any other top sport, it is sort of the 'international' version of TV3, different version

Listen to the people who know, RTL and TF1 are currently the only places where ALL the Formula 1 races will be shown free to air from next year on satellite Tv

rob the satman · 30-07-2011, 21:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by machare

I am not sure if I count as a beggar if i pay my licence fee. I object to pay channels being allowed to outbid FTA channels and then hold the viewers to ransom. It is just away for the owners of the pay channel to line their pockets at the expense of the public.

The BBC have ended their present contract two years early, The new agreement runs until 2018. The Director of BBC sport is a woman. I wonder if this was a factor, as motor sport is predominantly male.

RTL had quite a bit of pre qualifying coverage this morning. Radio 5 Live were covering something else at that time.

I was meaning that we as 'beggars' are looking for the scraps of free to air Formula 1 in satellite TV land, and scraps they are as most of Europe too is encrypted for top sports, only RTL and TF1 currently free to air places for all Formula 1 races from next year.

I totally agree with what your post says.

Red Devil · 30-07-2011, 22:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by rob the satman

How can I put this, no,

TV3 terrestrial in Spain shows all the sports you are looking at listings wise.

TV3 CAT does not (or very rarely) show any kind of sport, let alone Formula 1 or any other top sport, it is sort of the 'international' version of TV3, different version

Listen to the people who know, RTL and TF1 are currently the only places where ALL the Formula 1 races will be shown free to air from next year on satellite Tv

Ok thanks, the list I was looking at just lists the broadcasters, it didn't say it was terrestrial.

Winston_1 · 31-07-2011, 00:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by rob the satman

can you link it?? no time to look myself right now, sorry

I could but I won't as I don't want you to be ripped off. B & Q sell a caravan kit cheaper, and Aldi had them in stock cheaper recently.

jzee · 31-07-2011, 00:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by peter05

you could get it on 13deg french TFI HD but you may need a hd box

Is that not encrypted? RTL HD also seems to be encrypted so unless this is planned to change anyone hoping to get a 100% live free HD F1 may be disappointed. Although 4 Austrian HD channels seem to be testing in the clear: Sat 1 HD Austria, ProSieben HD Austria, Kabel eins HD Austria, Puls 4 HD Austria, don't know if they'll stay FTA or carry F1 however.

simon194 · 31-07-2011, 01:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by machare

I am not sure if I count as a beggar if i pay my licence fee. I object to pay channels being allowed to outbid FTA channels and then hold the viewers to ransom. It is just away for the owners of the pay channel to line their pockets at the expense of the public.

The BBC have ended their present contract two years early, The new agreement runs until 2018.

The BBC haven't ended their present contract early at all but financial constraints meant they couldn't fulfil their obligations for the next two seasons. Sky agreed to buy the partial rights because none of the other terrestrial broadcasters are in a position to do so.

Well at least Sky have said they won't be sticking ad breaks in during the races, at least for next year, which is more than can be said the the others.

pmbond · 31-07-2011, 07:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by pengwinzz

iirc prior to this years hd coverage, there was a fta world feed that transmitted an upscaled broadcast that was used by cinemas - anyone know which satellite this was broadcasted from?

That's a couple of years ago. It was on 1W and I used to watch it every 6 laps when ITV had an ad break.

Gneiss · 31-07-2011, 08:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by peter_sharp1uk

Would a portable dish be suitable to pick up 19.2?

No problem with a 45cm dish... that's all I use although mine is fixed to a wall.

richardp · 31-07-2011, 09:20

So what are the HD options then?

19.2E plus one of these http://www.sateuropa.co.uk/product_o...id=10&subcat=8 and then £50 yearly sub?

13E plus fransat box, where can these be bought cheaply? (Yes I have googled it, but not convinced the sites don't have a premium on them)

Any others? I don't mind paying some money for a ftv option, but at most it'd have to be £50 a year.

Monster900 · 31-07-2011, 10:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by richardp

So what are the HD options then?

19.2E plus one of these http://www.sateuropa.co.uk/product_o...id=10&subcat=8 and then £50 yearly sub?

13E plus fransat box, where can these be bought cheaply? (Yes I have googled it, but not convinced the sites don't have a premium on them)

Any others? I don't mind paying some money for a ftv option, but at most it'd have to be £50 a year.

The first one looks interesting if the Humax HDR CI slot is CI+ compatible.

Does anyone know if it is?

29-07-2011, 19:46	#1
rjfisher Guest Join Date: Apr 2000 Posts: 522	Formula One FTA Solution?! Having seen the news today that as of next year Sky Sports is the only place to watch half the races live I'm trying to find a sneaky solution as I'm not prepared to pay for Sky Sports. So, I'm thinking that I could setup a secondary receiver and dish/lnb to pick up F1 fta from another european broadcaster. My first idea was RTL in Germany at 19.2. Am I right in assuming that this is a digital broadcast? Does anyone have a better suggestion of station to go for?

29-07-2011, 19:53	#2
ftakeith2 Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 469	Quote: Originally Posted by rjfisher Having seen the news today that as of next year Sky Sports is the only place to watch half the races live I'm trying to find a sneaky solution as I'm not prepared to pay for Sky Sports. So, I'm thinking that I could setup a secondary receiver and dish/lnb to pick up F1 fta from another european broadcaster. My first idea was RTL in Germany at 19.2. Am I right in assuming that this is a digital broadcast? Does anyone have a better suggestion of station to go for? rtl with five live audio

29-07-2011, 20:02	#3
rjfisher Guest Join Date: Apr 2000 Posts: 522	Just what I was thinking! I already had a zone 2 big sky dish with quad lnb, thinking of mounting a second lnb for 19.2, seen a few home made mounts so willing to try anything!

30-07-2011, 13:06	#4
peter_sharp1uk Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Nottingham Posts: 506	Would a portable dish be suitable to pick up 19.2?

30-07-2011, 14:14	#5
peter05 Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 2,531	you could get it on 13deg french TFI HD but you may need a hd box

30-07-2011, 14:34	#6
JamesE Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Hibaldstow, N. Lincolnshire Posts: 5,985	If you subscribe to Tring for the footy then I think that it's on there.

30-07-2011, 15:49	#7
rob the satman Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: in orbit! Posts: 755	Quote: Originally Posted by peter05 you could get it on 13deg french TFI HD but you may need a hd box TF1 HD is free to air on 9 deg east only

30-07-2011, 15:51	#8
rob the satman Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: in orbit! Posts: 755	Quote: Originally Posted by peter_sharp1uk Would a portable dish be suitable to pick up 19.2? Yes, but anything smaller than 40cm may have picture break up in the rain. What exactly do you mean 'portable dish'?

30-07-2011, 15:56	#9
rob the satman Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: in orbit! Posts: 755	Quote: Originally Posted by rjfisher Having seen the news today that as of next year Sky Sports is the only place to watch half the races live I'm trying to find a sneaky solution as I'm not prepared to pay for Sky Sports. So, I'm thinking that I could setup a secondary receiver and dish/lnb to pick up F1 fta from another european broadcaster. My first idea was RTL in Germany at 19.2. Am I right in assuming that this is a digital broadcast? Does anyone have a better suggestion of station to go for? RTL is in digital from 19 east and 13 east, but 19 east is the better option, unfortunately RTL is only available free to air in SD, not HD TF1 HD is available free to air from 9 east but may or may not still be free to air by next year, another thing to remember about TF! is that they only show the race live, no practice or qualifying

30-07-2011, 17:15	#10
peter_sharp1uk Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Nottingham Posts: 506	Quote: Originally Posted by rob the satman Yes, but anything smaller than 40cm may have picture break up in the rain. What exactly do you mean 'portable dish'? Maplin sells one for caravans which fits in a suitcase.

30-07-2011, 17:19	#11
rob the satman Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: in orbit! Posts: 755	Quote: Originally Posted by peter_sharp1uk Maplin sells one for caravans which fits in a suitcase. can you link it?? no time to look myself right now, sorry

30-07-2011, 17:50	#12
pengwinzz Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 219	Looks like I too will be going down the foreign fta/ftv route for f1 next year there is a list of national f1 broadcasters here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...e_broadcasters are RTL and TF1 the only european carrieres that can be picked up fta? who covers the races in Ireland, Denamrk and the Netherlands? iirc prior to this years hd coverage, there was a fta world feed that transmitted an upscaled broadcast that was used by cinemas - anyone know which satellite this was broadcasted from?

30-07-2011, 17:55	#13
rob the satman Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: in orbit! Posts: 755	Quote: Originally Posted by pengwinzz are RTL and TF1 the only european carrieres that can be picked up fta? Yes, beggars can't be choosers

30-07-2011, 19:36	#14
machare Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 901	I am not sure if I count as a beggar if i pay my licence fee. I object to pay channels being allowed to outbid FTA channels and then hold the viewers to ransom. It is just away for the owners of the pay channel to line their pockets at the expense of the public. The BBC have ended their present contract two years early, The new agreement runs until 2018. The Director of BBC sport is a woman. I wonder if this was a factor, as motor sport is predominantly male. RTL had quite a bit of pre qualifying coverage this morning. Radio 5 Live were covering something else at that time.

30-07-2011, 20:51	#15
Red Devil Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 11,886	Is TV3 (Catalonia) FTA? I guess it is because it says 'clear' (the same as RTL does) on kingofsat, does anyone know for sure? Can't find details for TV3 HD anywhere. TV3 HD show every session live, while the SD version just show FP3, qualifying and race live.

30-07-2011, 21:08	#16
rob the satman Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: in orbit! Posts: 755	Quote: Originally Posted by Red Devil Is TV3 (Catalonia) FTA? I guess it is because it says 'clear' (the same as RTL does) on kingofsat, does anyone know for sure? Can't find details for TV3 HD anywhere. TV3 HD show every session live, while the SD version just show FP3, qualifying and race live. How can I put this, no, TV3 terrestrial in Spain shows all the sports you are looking at listings wise. TV3 CAT does not (or very rarely) show any kind of sport, let alone Formula 1 or any other top sport, it is sort of the 'international' version of TV3, different version Listen to the people who know, RTL and TF1 are currently the only places where ALL the Formula 1 races will be shown free to air from next year on satellite Tv

30-07-2011, 21:12	#17
rob the satman Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: in orbit! Posts: 755	Quote: Originally Posted by machare I am not sure if I count as a beggar if i pay my licence fee. I object to pay channels being allowed to outbid FTA channels and then hold the viewers to ransom. It is just away for the owners of the pay channel to line their pockets at the expense of the public. The BBC have ended their present contract two years early, The new agreement runs until 2018. The Director of BBC sport is a woman. I wonder if this was a factor, as motor sport is predominantly male. RTL had quite a bit of pre qualifying coverage this morning. Radio 5 Live were covering something else at that time. I was meaning that we as 'beggars' are looking for the scraps of free to air Formula 1 in satellite TV land, and scraps they are as most of Europe too is encrypted for top sports, only RTL and TF1 currently free to air places for all Formula 1 races from next year. I totally agree with what your post says.

30-07-2011, 22:45	#18
Red Devil Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 11,886	Quote: Originally Posted by rob the satman How can I put this, no, TV3 terrestrial in Spain shows all the sports you are looking at listings wise. TV3 CAT does not (or very rarely) show any kind of sport, let alone Formula 1 or any other top sport, it is sort of the 'international' version of TV3, different version Listen to the people who know, RTL and TF1 are currently the only places where ALL the Formula 1 races will be shown free to air from next year on satellite Tv Ok thanks, the list I was looking at just lists the broadcasters, it didn't say it was terrestrial.

31-07-2011, 00:12	#19
Winston_1 Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 5,008	Quote: Originally Posted by rob the satman can you link it?? no time to look myself right now, sorry I could but I won't as I don't want you to be ripped off. B & Q sell a caravan kit cheaper, and Aldi had them in stock cheaper recently.

31-07-2011, 00:29	#20
jzee Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 19,460	Quote: Originally Posted by peter05 you could get it on 13deg french TFI HD but you may need a hd box Is that not encrypted? RTL HD also seems to be encrypted so unless this is planned to change anyone hoping to get a 100% live free HD F1 may be disappointed. Although 4 Austrian HD channels seem to be testing in the clear: Sat 1 HD Austria, ProSieben HD Austria, Kabel eins HD Austria, Puls 4 HD Austria, don't know if they'll stay FTA or carry F1 however.

31-07-2011, 01:02	#21
simon194 Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: East Sussex Coast, UK Posts: 1,852	Quote: Originally Posted by machare I am not sure if I count as a beggar if i pay my licence fee. I object to pay channels being allowed to outbid FTA channels and then hold the viewers to ransom. It is just away for the owners of the pay channel to line their pockets at the expense of the public. The BBC have ended their present contract two years early, The new agreement runs until 2018. The BBC haven't ended their present contract early at all but financial constraints meant they couldn't fulfil their obligations for the next two seasons. Sky agreed to buy the partial rights because none of the other terrestrial broadcasters are in a position to do so. Well at least Sky have said they won't be sticking ad breaks in during the races, at least for next year, which is more than can be said the the others.

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Formula One FTA Solution?!

31-07-2011, 07:58	#22
pmbond Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 852	Quote: Originally Posted by pengwinzz iirc prior to this years hd coverage, there was a fta world feed that transmitted an upscaled broadcast that was used by cinemas - anyone know which satellite this was broadcasted from? That's a couple of years ago. It was on 1W and I used to watch it every 6 laps when ITV had an ad break.

31-07-2011, 08:19	#23
Gneiss Forum Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Cambridgeshire Posts: 14,046	Quote: Originally Posted by peter_sharp1uk Would a portable dish be suitable to pick up 19.2? No problem with a 45cm dish... that's all I use although mine is fixed to a wall.

31-07-2011, 09:20	#24
richardp Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 20	So what are the HD options then? 19.2E plus one of these http://www.sateuropa.co.uk/product_o...id=10&subcat=8 and then £50 yearly sub? 13E plus fransat box, where can these be bought cheaply? (Yes I have googled it, but not convinced the sites don't have a premium on them) Any others? I don't mind paying some money for a ftv option, but at most it'd have to be £50 a year.

31-07-2011, 10:47	#25
Monster900 Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Bangor Posts: 333	Quote: Originally Posted by richardp So what are the HD options then? 19.2E plus one of these http://www.sateuropa.co.uk/product_o...id=10&subcat=8 and then £50 yearly sub? 13E plus fransat box, where can these be bought cheaply? (Yes I have googled it, but not convinced the sites don't have a premium on them) Any others? I don't mind paying some money for a ftv option, but at most it'd have to be £50 a year. The first one looks interesting if the Humax HDR CI slot is CI+ compatible. Does anyone know if it is?