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Would you buy Humax HDR again and any regret moving from Sky?
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Dan the Van
02-08-2011
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“.but the obvious way of getting the Guide (by pressing "Guide") didn't have a 40 second delay until the latest software update.”

I thought there has always been a delay when pressing Guide perhaps the update time has increased. I have been using the alternative method for a couple of years.

In answer to the OP, yes I would buy a Humax HDR again.

Dan.
grahamlthompson
02-08-2011
Originally Posted by 2Bdecided:
“...but the obvious way of getting the Guide (by pressing "Guide") didn't have a 40 second delay until the latest software update.

The tenacity of people claiming this is the end of the world is only matched by your tenacity in jumping and telling everyone that it's just fine!

It's a minor software cockup which has effectively broken the Guide button after two years of working just fine.

All boxes keep the EPG refreshed in the background - some do it using the fast data stream on Freesat's dedicated transponder when one tuner is not in use, all do it using the slow data stream on the current transponder when both tuners are in use.

The Humax is not giving you a useful choice, it's saying "I should have been keeping an eye on this for you, but I haven't been - would you like to wait 40 seconds while I go and get the data, or look at the old version I've saved".

Cheers,
David.”

\there has always been a delay of around 30-40 seconds. What is new is the inabilty to set series recordings until the total download is achieved. Humax have already said this is intentional to minimise ITV series recording failures when they change the event id's during the period the entry is in the epg (in contravention of the freesat+ specs)
Flyer 10
02-08-2011
You really believe that?

Hoe often has that event actually happened to anyone?

Its a classic fob off and youd have to be extremely gullible to think they are trying to fix ITVs problem, its just an excuse so they dont have to fix the EPG themselves.
Flyer 10
02-08-2011
Originally Posted by Dan the Van:
“I thought there has always been a delay when pressing Guide perhaps the update time has increased. I have been using the alternative method for a couple of years.

In answer to the OP, yes I would buy a Humax HDR again.

Dan.”

There was always a delay but you could still record fine and that wasnt a problem for anyone.

Until the decided to "fix" it.
grahamlthompson
02-08-2011
Originally Posted by Flyer 10:
“You really believe that?

Hoe often has that event actually happened to anyone?

Its a classic fob off and youd have to be extremely gullible to think they are trying to fix ITVs problem, its just an excuse so they dont have to fix the EPG themselves.”

Failure of ITV1 HD recordings due to event ID changes are well documented if you could bothered to look
2Bdecided
02-08-2011
Talk about dejavu - we've had this conversation.

It did take 40 seconds to get the new EPG data before, but you could hardly call it a "delay" because, back then, the Humax didn't stop the user from doing things during this time.

The changed functionality may be some kind of "fix" for some broadcasters' occasional naughtiness, but if so, then the schedule+red "workaround" will break this fix.


Thinking it through, I can't believe it is a fix for broadcaster naughtiness. If the broadcaster changes the event ID, they can change it at any time. Which means a "fix" will involve setting the timers when event ID "123" is listed in the EPG, yet still recording properly when event ID "456" is broadcast in that time slot. This means being able to cope with the change happening _after_ you've booked the series. Otherwise, you've haven't "fixed" the problem! That means having an "up-to-date" or "stale" EPG is irrelevant - because whatever "fix" is in place will fix the "stale" EPG anyway.


Either the change is a cock up, or fixes some other obscure bug. If it fixes an obscure bug, then the schedule+red "workaround" retains that bug. If it's a cock-up, then can we have the old Guide functionality back please?

Cheers,
David.
Flyer 10
02-08-2011
Originally Posted by grahamlthompson:
“Failure of ITV1 HD recordings due to event ID changes are well documented if you could bothered to look ”

Yeah but it wouldnt fix it unless the id changed between epg presses.

The post above proves Humax are lying.
SWIZZ?
02-08-2011
Thanks 2bdecided, I'd forgotten the workaround, Shed+Red
I'd changed to a Harmony & forgot to program the Schedule key in. Anyone know if Sched/Red could be put on one Harmony fey?

I don't regret changing from Sky for monetary & ethical reasons, I thought they were a SWIZZ. Later events seem to prove that as part of News International, malpractice (some say criminality) is endemic.
I'd be pleased if NI was banned from owning UK media of any sort.


However there are still practical issues.
1-- the remote is distinctly worse than the Sky remote, & my Humax remote failed while the Sky ones never did.

2--Erasing programs needs the patience of a saint ! & I'm very unlikely to be nominated to that level

3-- My box has a new fault reported by at least one other that it sometimes loses a tuner. I never notice until it reports a clash that wouldn't exist with 2 tuners. This of course usually happens when you are trying to arrange a last moment recording.
REPASSAC
02-08-2011
Originally Posted by SWIZZ?:
“]However there are still practical issues......
2--Erasing programs needs the patience of a saint ! & I'm very unlikely to be nominated to that level
.....”

It never gives me problems - watch recording, at end while credits start / ads - press OK - choose delete - exit.
Flyer 10
02-08-2011
Originally Posted by REPASSAC:
“It never gives me problems - watch recording, at end while credits start / ads - press OK - choose delete - exit.”

If you have say an afternoons worth of sport to delete, and other stuff too then it will annoy you because they cant be queued.

Normally however its not a problem but thats not the case with 2 5 hour HD recordings.

Still its much better now than having to wait until the box stopped recording. Maybe they will bring that back again as another "feature".
REPASSAC
02-08-2011
Originally Posted by Flyer 10:
“If you have say an afternoons worth of sport to delete, and other stuff too then it will annoy you because they cant be queued.

Normally however its not a problem but thats not the case with 2 5 hour HD recordings.

Still its much better now than having to wait until the box stopped recording. Maybe they will bring that back again as another "feature".”

I can't remember recording any sport. However if I got into that situation of say having a load of programmes to delete I would do it via ftp - it will handle any queue needed.
2Bdecided
02-08-2011
Originally Posted by Flyer 10:
“If you have say an afternoons worth of sport to delete, and other stuff too then it will annoy you because they cant be queued.”

I think you can move it all into one folder and flag the lot for deletion in the file manager view. Though that takes a little patience too!

Cheers,
David.
grahamlthompson
02-08-2011
Originally Posted by Flyer 10:
“If you have say an afternoons worth of sport to delete, and other stuff too then it will annoy you because they cant be queued.

Normally however its not a problem but thats not the case with 2 5 hour HD recordings.

Still its much better now than having to wait until the box stopped recording. Maybe they will bring that back again as another "feature".”

You can multiple select recordings either in the root folder or within a sub-folder. You can also delete a folder and all it's contents. When you start the delete press the off button it will put the box in sby when the delete process is complete.
Flyer 10
02-08-2011
Originally Posted by grahamlthompson:
“You can multiple select recordings either in the root folder or within a sub-folder. You can also delete a folder and all it's contents. When you start the delete press the off button it will put the box in sby when the delete process is complete.”

That takes just as much time as deleting individually unless you have a whole series already in a folder.
SWIZZ?
02-08-2011
Originally Posted by REPASSAC:
“It never gives me problems - watch recording, at end while credits start / ads - press OK - choose delete - exit.”

Agreed, but I was thinking more of all those recordings of series that Lady Swizz requested then changed her mind.
SWIZZ?
02-08-2011
Originally Posted by grahamlthompson:
“You can multiple select recordings either in the root folder or within a sub-folder. You can also delete a folder and all it's contents. When you start the delete press the off button it will put the box in sby when the delete process is complete.”

I've not got that to work since the software "improvements", perhaps it is me.
SWIZZ?
02-08-2011
Correct me if wrong but I thought most folk wanted to mark items to bin then activate the multi-delete as an option to take effect when closing down for the night.

I'd also like to reactivate the tooth fairy ready for my 3rd set of gnashers.
grahamlthompson
02-08-2011
Originally Posted by Flyer 10:
“That takes just as much time as deleting individually unless you have a whole series already in a folder.”

Why you can select mutiple files in the root folder (non series content) in less than a minute and then let the box delete them. Whoever said you can't queue deletes is incorrect.
Flyer 10
02-08-2011
Originally Posted by grahamlthompson:
“Why you can select mutiple files in the root folder (non series content) in less than a minute and then let the box delete them. Whoever said you can't queue deletes is incorrect.”

you cant, you can either delete them all at once, thats not queuing.

Queueing would be deleting one file and then deleting another file straight away leaving it to do its business in the background but you have to wait for it to finish.

Whatever you say, it would be more user friendly to allow that than to force people to wait.
Dan the Van
02-08-2011
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“Queueing would be deleting one file and then deleting another file straight away leaving it to do its business in the background but you have to wait for it to finish”

If you exit out of the GUI you can carry on using the HDR, all you see is the dustbin icon on the screen.

Dan.
Flyer 10
02-08-2011
Originally Posted by Dan the Van:
“If you exit out of the GUI you can carry on using the HDR, all you see is the dustbin icon on the screen.

Dan.”

I know but you have to wait for that icon to disappear before you can select another file to delete.

Theres no problem deleting 1 file, thats fine, it multiple files that are a hassle, still not as bad as a previous update stopped you from deleting at all unless the box was not recording.
gomezz
02-08-2011
Originally Posted by Flyer 10:
“I know but you have to wait for that icon to disappear before you can select another file to delete.”

Not if you use the multiple file select and delete method described in a post made just today.
Dan the Van
02-08-2011
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Dan the Van
02-08-2011
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“it multiple files that are a hassle”

I assume when you say multiple files are you expecting two recordings to be deleted at the same time, not one after each other?

Dan.
Flyer 10
02-08-2011
Originally Posted by gomezz:
“Not if you use the multiple file select and delete method described in a post made just today.”

but the multiple key presses take up just as much time, also can you delete files in different locations?
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