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Why Is The iPhone So Hyped Up?
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Dan Sette
15-08-2011
Originally Posted by clonmult:
“ (Stax Electrostatics, you won't find better headphones).”

Sweet headphones. Although the Jecklin Float gave them a run for the money - though they were more like small speakers strapped to the side of your head.
clonmult
15-08-2011
Originally Posted by Dan Sette:
“Sweet headphones. Although the Jecklin Float gave them a run for the money - though they were more like small speakers strapped to the side of your head.”

The Jecklins were rare though, i don't think I ever saw any at shows, or ever knew anyone with a set.

Both those and the Lambda Pros did give you a mild cyberman look.
daz_f
15-08-2011
i have a set of Bose that i use with my iphone 4 and imo they do sound good
tdenson
16-08-2011
Originally Posted by paul2307:
“Your opinion but isn't he supposed to have Pancreatic Cancer and had a Liver transplant and hasn't their share price admittedly along with a lot of others dropped drastically since he went off sick in January ? , lets see what happens in 12 months”

Share price in January was about $335. Share price today is $383 (and that is after a major adjustment in the last two weeks due to the general market crash). Don't think you have a clue what you are talking about.
Stiggles
16-08-2011
Originally Posted by tdenson:
“Share price in January was about $335. Share price today is $383 (and that is after a major adjustment in the last two weeks due to the general market crash). Don't think you have a clue what you are talking about.”

Hes actually asking a question there.

In fact he is correct. The share price did drop earlier this year when he announced his illness.

So instead of jumping on someone like you have, learn to read properly.
tdenson
16-08-2011
Originally Posted by Stiggles:
“Hes actually asking a question there.

In fact he is correct. The share price did drop earlier this year when he announced his illness.

So instead of jumping on someone like you have, learn to read properly.”

I did read it properly, I suggest you reread it. In my mind that was a rhetorical question in the way it was phrased. The fact that he said "along with a lot of others" meant he was referring to recent events, and not what happened to the share price at the announcement of SJ illness. Yes there was a 5% dip very temporarily at that announcement - which bounced back as soon as the Steve Jobs obsessed US media got onto their next story. (BTW Paul2307 said "hasn't" rather than "didn't" implying what had happened from January to now).

To add my two penneth to this thread, and at the risk of entering the Lion's den, (since I'm a self confessed Appleholic), my answer to what is the secret of Apple's success is as follows -

1. They do from time to time introduce genuinely innovative technology e.g. the original iPhone. I was a long time user of early smartphones (Windows CE, Symbian etc) and the iPhone was without question a huge leap in usability. Even though as an extreme techie for whom using the internet (mail and web) on a mobile device was the holy grail, I just couldn't be bothered with the early smartphones. Making them work sensibly on the internet was too much like hard work. For the first time, Apple made it easy and enjoyable to use the internet on a mobile device. (Bear in my mind I am someone who had a 300 baud modem for email in their car in 1992, so I'm not averse to chasing technology for technologies' sake).

2. However, I believe a bigger part of their success, and the reason why their products have this perception (albeit generated by Apple themselves) of "they just work" is because they have a knack of knowing when to leave things out to keep it simple. My wife wouldn't know where to start with an HTC Desire (I am the support person for my granddaughter's HTC Desire), but she took to the iPhone from day 1.
As a techie I am constantly frustrated by things Apple leave out of software - like preferences to tweak settings, but I fully understand why they do it. Choice leads to complexity.

Incidentally, the main reason I am an Apple person is because as a long time Windows user I just got sick and tired of fighting Windows systems, mainly due to malware. I have never run an antivirus program on any of the 8 Macs I am responsible for, and never had a problem. I am constantly being asked by my Windows friends, what do I do about these messages telling me I am infected, and when I do get involved it turns out to be a day's work to sort things out usually resulting in reinstalling their system from scratch including the inevitable "where is your key for XYZ Microsoft product" - which of course is a non issue in the Mac world because Apple actually trust their users to be honest with licenses.
porkpie
16-08-2011
I would agree that Microsoft/Windows means shit.
But it won't change the fact that Apple products limit users choices that other brands don't and Apple then charge you a premium for the privelege of doing less.

Choice does not mean confusion.
Anyone who wants to Bluetooth from one phone to another or upgrade the memory or do many other things have to search out apps with Apple products when they don't with others which means that for people who want to do those basic things Apple make it more confusing
tdenson
16-08-2011
Originally Posted by porkpie:
“I would agree that Microsoft/Windows means shit.
But it won't change the fact that Apple products limit users choices that other brands don't and Apple then charge you a premium for the privelege of doing less.

Choice does not mean confusion.
Anyone who wants to Bluetooth from one phone to another or upgrade the memory or do many other things have to search out apps with Apple products when they don't with others which means that for people who want to do those basic things Apple make it more confusing”

I really think though that people are missing the big picture that Apple are about. I would call it the "appliance'isation" of computing. When I first started working with Windows in 1987 (the first version I used was the 0.9 alpha release of Windows 1.0) after 10 years with Unix and various proprietary systems before that, I had high hopes that this would bring the simplification of the computer to the masses. My hopes were dashed by Microsoft who constantly sought the addition of more and more features at the cost of complexity, unreliability and poor performance on inadequate hardware.
In my opinion the world would be totally different had they chosen to consciously turn the computer into an appliance. This would have meant an approach that meant small tight code, heavily restricted as to what hardware it would run on - does the world really need 5,000 printers with all their associated device driver problems and likewise for graphics cards etc. The basic kernel of Windows should have been encapsulated in a ROM completely eliminating the ability of malware to modify how the system works.

Whether they can achieve it, I don't really know but in my opinion (and as a techie it pains me to say this) Apple are heading in the right direction by dumbing everything down. An example is the latest version of Mac OS X. As a techie it frustrates me like hell because all over the place they have hidden little techie features that were exposed previously. However, I have to say I think they are spot on with what they are doing. I am not the primary target, it is the man in the street and I know from my own experience of supporting numerous friends with Windows PCs that they are just too complicated.
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