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Why Is The iPhone So Hyped Up?
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far2cool
05-08-2011
Originally Posted by unklesam:
“I was the original apple fanboy, had the 2G,3G and now a 3GS, I've just had a month with a Desire S and have just gone back to my 3GS and I hate it, the entire interface is dated and I don't think these new additions IE notifications bar will make any difference to be honest. The only thing for me an iPhone has over android is the music side of things, Android has many players but vast majority are crap and volume is pityfully low. So I think I am gonna eBay this and get me a Desire S permanently”

Nice to see someone else has transferred

I did the same, I had a 3g, It was my first smartphone, I only went for it because of it's 'hype'

However, I replaced it with the Desire after reading some good reviews and it is a much better phone
grumpyoldbat
05-08-2011
Originally Posted by Stiggles:
“The shares did drop but came back when he announced he was coming back.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-12218590”

When did Jobs announce he was coming back? As far as I'm aware he's still off. He reappeared briefly at the iPad 2 launch and then did a bit of the WWDC keynote, but he looked proper poorly and tired. The current high share price is down to Apple consistently delivering massive sales numbers. Last quarter analysts were predicting record numbers (for Apple) of iPad and iPhone sales, and when the results appeared, the analysts had underestimated!
CrazyLoop
05-08-2011
I love my iPhone 4 and have had it just over a week now

I know it's not to everyone's tastes. I didn't buy it because it's an Apple product. It's the only Apple product I owe. Although I've now had an iPod shuffle, iPod nano & iPod touch from them. I loved them all for different reasons. But wouldn't get a Mac or anything as I much prefer Windows.

Having the iPod on the iPhone, now it'll mean in the mornings that I don't have to have both my phone & iPod touch in my pocket. I will just have one to keep hold of :P

I just love what it does and meets my needs happily.
Haruhion
05-08-2011
Originally Posted by CrazyLoop:
“I love my iPhone 4 and have had it just over a week now

I know it's not to everyone's tastes. I didn't buy it because it's an Apple product. It's the only Apple product I owe. Although I've now had an iPod shuffle, iPod nano & iPod touch from them. I loved them all for different reasons. But wouldn't get a Mac or anything as I much prefer Windows.

Having the iPod on the iPhone, now it'll mean in the mornings that I don't have to have both my phone & iPod touch in my pocket. I will just have one to keep hold of :P

I just love what it does and meets my needs happily.”

OK, but do consider; you have owned the phone for just over one week. The user interface does seem to "attract" people. Out of sheer interest; may I ask what 'really' influenced you to purchase one from the start?
Steve™
05-08-2011
I think where the iPhone wins is ease of use and the Apps. Having access to both UK and US itunes + a VPN connection opens up stuff like HBO and Showtime TV etc.

I think if you are techy sort of person like me then the iPhone lacks that fiddle factor...customisation is minimal and because its such a simple straight UI, it can come across as basic which wont suit everyone.

Try one BEFORE you buy.
far2cool
05-08-2011
People use the music argument, but when I had an iPhone I used spotify, now I have a HTC Desire, I use spotify.....
Steve™
06-08-2011
Originally Posted by far2cool:
“People use the music argument, but when I had an iPhone I used spotify, now I have a HTC Desire, I use spotify.....”


Great...but whats the difference..and your point?
far2cool
06-08-2011
Originally Posted by Steve™:
“Great...but whats the difference..and your point?”

Well for me, the music side didn't make any difference,

And also, I didn't see what was so great about the ipod bit of the iphone, other than making playlists, there isn't really a difference between that and any other phone music player...
Steve™
06-08-2011
Originally Posted by far2cool:
“Well for me, the music side didn't make any difference,

And also, I didn't see what was so great about the ipod bit of the iphone, other than making playlists, there isn't really a difference between that and any other phone music player...”


Its not just a player. Its retail, burning, copying, import, export and management.
welshmark83
06-08-2011
android is so complicated to use compared to an iphone.
iphone is easy to jailbreak and easy to customize to how you like.
no way would i keep an iphone if i was unable to jailbreak, but because i can it makes it such a better phone. Also one of the main reasons is for the app install0us
Stiggles
06-08-2011
Originally Posted by welshmark83:
“android is so complicated to use compared to an iphone.”

I know i shouldn't laugh but.....Hahaha!!

Having moved from an iphone 4 to Android i can safely say that's the biggest load of shite i have ever read!!!
alanwarwic
06-08-2011
One thing certain about Apple hype is that Appleinsider is responsible for much of it.

The rather surreal nature of a few of their articles is nothing compared to the ensuing discussion.
Chairman___Meow
06-08-2011
Originally Posted by Stiggles:
“I know i shouldn't laugh but.....Hahaha!!

Having moved from an iphone 4 to Android i can safely say that's the biggest load of shite i have ever read!!!”


I was about to post exactly the same thing...
call100
06-08-2011
Originally Posted by welshmark83:
“android is so complicated to use compared to an iphone.
iphone is easy to jailbreak and easy to customize to how you like.
no way would i keep an iphone if i was unable to jailbreak, but because i can it makes it such a better phone. Also one of the main reasons is for the app install0us”

You can jailbreak and make an iPhone do what an Android can already do naturally but you find Android too complicated??????????????????:
alanwarwic
06-08-2011
http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/s...-201108044162/


"Millions remain uncool"
My level of personal coolness has not increased to match my HTC thing"
CrazyLoop
06-08-2011
Originally Posted by Haruhion:
“OK, but do consider; you have owned the phone for just over one week. The user interface does seem to "attract" people. Out of sheer interest; may I ask what 'really' influenced you to purchase one from the start?”

I've wanted one ever since they first started advertising them. I just love the fact you can do so much, easy to use, you can multi task, that you have the iPod within in. So many reasons really. It's not just a phone to text/call/take photos like most. It's so much more. I can't explain my love and desire for one lol.
porkpie
06-08-2011
Originally Posted by CrazyLoop:
“I've wanted one ever since they first started advertising them. I just love the fact you can do so much, easy to use, you can multi task, that you have the iPod within in. So many reasons really. It's not just a phone to text/call/take photos like most. It's so much more. I can't explain my love and desire for one lol.”

Because the marketing works.
There are so many phones better than the Iphone that don't have the Iphone restrictions of no Bluetooth transfer or ability to expand memory or copying to and from .

The only reason to buy an Iphone or Ipod is for the badge.

Other devices do the same job better and cheaper.
CrazyLoop
07-08-2011
I didn't buy it for the badge lol.

I've got excellent memory, have installed about 50-60 apps so far, with nearly 100 photos already, plus almost 1000 songs PLUS two videos & still have a lot left over Yes there is the restriction of the bluetooth transfer but thankfully most of the photos on my previous phone were on my laptop already & some I got rid as they were quite old...
John Malkovich
07-08-2011
The iPhone is hyped up because it's such a good device, pure and simple.

The OS is stunning, fast and easy to use. I sometimes spend hours on my iPhone either playing games, listening to music, watching videos or browsing the web.

I spend more time on my iPhone than I do my PC and TV.

As for the hardware, I think it's the best looking phone out there.
Steve™
07-08-2011
I'm currently on ios 5 beta 5 and the improvement and additions are pretty impressive.

iCloud and find my phone is really impressive. I dont think I am going to sell it now lol
Helbore
07-08-2011
Apple have some amazing marketing skill. Smartphones had been around for years. I bought my HTC Blue Angel (running Windows Mobile) back in 2003. It was a fantastic phone for its time and everyone I showed it to was in awe. But that was the problem; no-one knew it even existed until I showed it to them. It wasn't available for consumer purchase on any network. You either needed to buy the "XDA" branded version on o2 business or you bought it full-price as an unlocked handset.

Then Apple waltzed in to the market (clearly because they realised the PMP market was in its death-throes and smartphones were going to take their place) and managed to sell the smartphone to the masses. Prior to this, smartphones were business tools generally only owned by the tech-savvy. Apple made them something the average Joe on the street wanted. Consequently, the average Joe sees Apple as the inventor of the smartphone and companies like HTC are "rip-off" copycats, even though they've actually been in the market for years longer.

Apple's biggest advantage was that the smartphone market had stagnated. It wasn't large and the main players were offering minor updates every few years. Apple had an opportunity to enter the market with something new, when others were practically standing still. In their credit, HTC had clearly seen the writing on the wall, as they were trying to develop bolt-on improvements to WinMo in order to keep it fresh.

So in came Apple and they released a phone with an incredible fanfare. It rode in on the back of the iPod's success and convinced the uninformed majority that it was a totally new type of phone. To anyone tech-savvy, it was a joke of a device; a half-arsed effort to create a smartphone. It lacked 3G, it had no third-party app capability, it even lacked simple things like stereo bluetooth support. But then most people were totally unaware there were phones out there that already had these features, so their lack of presence didn't stop most people.

The success of the iPhone is a matter of incredibly shrewd marketing. It took an existing market, added some impressive eye-candy and convinced a new, large section of the population that they just invented a new market.

You've got to give it to Steve Jobs; he knows how to sell technology.
porkpie
07-08-2011
Originally Posted by CrazyLoop:
“I didn't buy it for the badge lol.

I've got excellent memory, have installed about 50-60 apps so far, with nearly 100 photos already, plus almost 1000 songs PLUS two videos & still have a lot left over Yes there is the restriction of the bluetooth transfer but thankfully most of the photos on my previous phone were on my laptop already & some I got rid as they were quite old...”

Yes you have a 16Gb memory.
When you find you want 32Gb memory will you be able to spend £20 on a new memory card ?
No , you'll need to spend £500 on another Iphone.

If for some reason your computer crashes and you lose all your music , videos and pictures on Itunes will you be able to simply copy them from the Iphone back to your computer with just a simple connection ? No.

And the Iphone offers very litttle choice of wallpapers , ringtones and other essentials without needing to pay extra.

Originally Posted by John Malkovich:
“The iPhone is hyped up because it's such a good device, pure and simple.

The OS is stunning, fast and easy to use. I sometimes spend hours on my iPhone either playing games, listening to music, watching videos or browsing the web.

I spend more time on my iPhone than I do my PC and TV.

As for the hardware, I think it's the best looking phone out there.”

There are thinner phones with larger memories and better cameras that don't lock you into the variety of restrictions including those I mentioned above.
Haruhion
07-08-2011
Originally Posted by Helbore:
“Apple have some amazing marketing skill. Smartphones had been around for years. I bought my HTC Blue Angel (running Windows Mobile) back in 2003. It was a fantastic phone for its time and everyone I showed it to was in awe. But that was the problem; no-one knew it even existed until I showed it to them. It wasn't available for consumer purchase on any network. You either needed to buy the "XDA" branded version on o2 business or you bought it full-price as an unlocked handset.

Then Apple waltzed in to the market (clearly because they realised the PMP market was in its death-throes and smartphones were going to take their place) and managed to sell the smartphone to the masses. Prior to this, smartphones were business tools generally only owned by the tech-savvy. Apple made them something the average Joe on the street wanted. Consequently, the average Joe sees Apple as the inventor of the smartphone and companies like HTC are "rip-off" copycats, even though they've actually been in the market for years longer.

Apple's biggest advantage was that the smartphone market had stagnated. It wasn't large and the main players were offering minor updates every few years. Apple had an opportunity to enter the market with something new, when others were practically standing still. In their credit, HTC had clearly seen the writing on the wall, as they were trying to develop bolt-on improvements to WinMo in order to keep it fresh.

So in came Apple and they released a phone with an incredible fanfare. It rode in on the back of the iPod's success and convinced the uninformed majority that it was a totally new type of phone. To anyone tech-savvy, it was a joke of a device; a half-arsed effort to create a smartphone. It lacked 3G, it had no third-party app capability, it even lacked simple things like stereo bluetooth support. But then most people were totally unaware there were phones out there that already had these features, so their lack of presence didn't stop most people.

The success of the iPhone is a matter of incredibly shrewd marketing. It took an existing market, added some impressive eye-candy and convinced a new, large section of the population that they just invented a new market.

You've got to give it to Steve Jobs; he knows how to sell technology.”

Some are undoubtedly going to disagree with that, but I think it is a great post.
Steve™
07-08-2011
Originally Posted by Helbore:
“Apple have some amazing marketing skill. Smartphones had been around for years. I bought my HTC Blue Angel (running Windows Mobile) back in 2003. It was a fantastic phone for its time and everyone I showed it to was in awe. But that was the problem; no-one knew it even existed until I showed it to them. It wasn't available for consumer purchase on any network. You either needed to buy the "XDA" branded version on o2 business or you bought it full-price as an unlocked handset.

Then Apple waltzed in to the market (clearly because they realised the PMP market was in its death-throes and smartphones were going to take their place) and managed to sell the smartphone to the masses. Prior to this, smartphones were business tools generally only owned by the tech-savvy. Apple made them something the average Joe on the street wanted. Consequently, the average Joe sees Apple as the inventor of the smartphone and companies like HTC are "rip-off" copycats, even though they've actually been in the market for years longer.

Apple's biggest advantage was that the smartphone market had stagnated. It wasn't large and the main players were offering minor updates every few years. Apple had an opportunity to enter the market with something new, when others were practically standing still. In their credit, HTC had clearly seen the writing on the wall, as they were trying to develop bolt-on improvements to WinMo in order to keep it fresh.

So in came Apple and they released a phone with an incredible fanfare. It rode in on the back of the iPod's success and convinced the uninformed majority that it was a totally new type of phone. To anyone tech-savvy, it was a joke of a device; a half-arsed effort to create a smartphone. It lacked 3G, it had no third-party app capability, it even lacked simple things like stereo bluetooth support. But then most people were totally unaware there were phones out there that already had these features, so their lack of presence didn't stop most people.

The success of the iPhone is a matter of incredibly shrewd marketing. It took an existing market, added some impressive eye-candy and convinced a new, large section of the population that they just invented a new market.

You've got to give it to Steve Jobs; he knows how to sell technology.”

The fact you state that smartphones existed before the iPhone and back that up by mentioning a product running Windows Mobile clearly illustrates you have a limited understanding of "smartphones" and what Apple brought to the market which was new and refreshing and better than anything else on the market.

For a start most of these so called smartphones were a pain in the ass to use and Windows Mobile is right up there with the biggest offenders. Its just about the shitest OS, shitest UI that ever flashed its way onto a chip, backed up by the year on year fall in people wanting to use such devices.

There were other devices running proprietory software and they were just as bad. Yes they got the job done, but it was like pulling teeth navigating the UI.

I used many of these devices, and frankly iPhone brought alot to the market which was not there before and since that first 2G model they have brought alot more...alot of which has been copied and immitated.

In fact, its probably thanks to Apple, that the smartphone market is what it is today.
Steve™
07-08-2011
Originally Posted by porkpie:
“If for some reason your computer crashes and you lose all your music , videos and pictures on Itunes will you be able to simply copy them from the Iphone back to your computer with just a simple connection ? No.”

Yes. Just a simple connection - the included sync cable. http://i-funbox.com/

Free software. transfer everything. For free with just a "simple connection".

Did I mention it was free and a simple connection

Originally Posted by porkpie:
“And the Iphone offers very litttle choice of wallpapers , ringtones and other essentials without needing to pay extra.”

Nope all free again, and you can use ANY track in your library.

http://www.demogeek.com/2009/07/31/h...o-your-iphone/

I'm all for criticism of the iPhone - there are alot of things I find annoying and restrictive about it - but lets at least be accurate and not come out with such gems as Windows Mobile was there first or you cant add a custom ringtone to the iPhone
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