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The John James Appreciation Thread (Part 9)
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ucra girl
11-09-2011
[quote=abbieluvs22;52708395]
Originally Posted by ucra girl:
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I do agree it is not Josie it is C5 press machine parading John James around.I dont think it is neccessary because they want to remind people of the love story of last summer more so because they are still interested in John as a person and know he still has fans.If there was no interest in him and he lives in OZ they wouldnt mention him at all and they would be bigging this new boyfriend.It looks to me that the new boyfriend is no match media wise otherwise he would be dragged down our throats. It is a good thing for John thou.[/QUOTE]

Agree with this. John and Josie's appeal initially was each other and their relationship. Obviously since then they have split and people have formed opinions either way and now maybe support one over the other.

I think regardless of who new spouses are it won't work they can never be branded like JJJ were. Josie's bf will be better off staying in the background and likewise Sherrie (though it seems unlikely she is going to make an appearance now) It would never have worked if John and tried to push the relationship into the media and same for Josie.

My personal opinion is that no future spouse will ever compare with John or Josie in the eyes of the media. So we will see if Josie introduces the new b/f - I think he would be wise to keep quiet if she is actually serious about him. Same with John - I do think John was a little silly to ever do the interview about Sherrie and I don't really understand his reasoning for it. He could of just told Josie and then he could of avoided a lot of the hate - then again I suppose he felt he had to justify himself as it wouldn't have been fair to only hear Josie's view.”




I do think under the circumstances at the time he had to,allegations about cheating can have a long term effect on any career of any shape or form and he has to leave his options open for that.If he hadnt been accused of cheating I dont think he would have put Sherrie out.I think telling Josie on her own would have been even more damaging as John's fans wouldnt know the truth.
muggins14
11-09-2011
http://t.co/yKlz8wh

John posted on Loys
muggins14
11-09-2011
My thoughts today are with all those that were lost on 9/11 and all those that lost their loved ones. Never Forget.
abbieluvs22
11-09-2011
Originally Posted by muggins14:
“http://t.co/yKlz8wh

John posted on Loys ”

Lovely to hear from John, sounding so happy x x
muggins14
11-09-2011
Originally Posted by abbieluvs22:
“Lovely to hear from John, sounding so happy x x”

Yes indeed He was looking to contact this guy at one point wasn't he, didn't he tweet about it ages ago?

I imagine he'd be enjoying all the sports that are on at the moment too
Lena J
11-09-2011
Originally Posted by muggins14:
“Yes indeed He was looking to contact this guy at one point wasn't he, didn't he tweet about it ages ago?

I imagine he'd be enjoying all the sports that are on at the moment too ”

Thanks for bringing this over muggins, I saw that he'd re-activated his fb and wondered if he was about to make contact.

You're right I remember he was asking if anybody knew how to contact him. Wow, may have to take a look at BB now, and I vowed I wasn't going to watch.
muggins14
11-09-2011
Quote:
“My personal opinion is that no future spouse will ever compare with John or Josie in the eyes of the media. So we will see if Josie introduces the new b/f - I think he would be wise to keep quiet if she is actually serious about him.”

I think that, in the eyes of the media currently, they are only becoming aware of Josie a bit because she appears on TV sometimes now, and goes to more events, and so might become more known to those that read the magazines that these kinds of pictures would appear in (from these kinds of events I mean), or mags that are interested in BB.

Therefore I do not think that Josie will permanently be connected to John in the eyes of the media, because - beyond actual articles and interviews done with the two of them that were arranged by them/their management at the time - they weren't sought out by the press during their time together, were never papped. There have been more papped pics of Josie since her split with John and her increased visibility in her own right on TV, so the John connection you mention above I don't see that as being the case.

muggins14
11-09-2011
Originally Posted by Lena J:
“Thanks for bringing this over muggins, I saw that he'd re-activated his fb and wondered if he was about to make contact.

You're right I remember he was asking if anybody knew how to contact him. Wow, may have to take a look at BB now, and I vowed I wasn't going to watch.”

Sadly this Mark is the one who is already p'ing me off the most and I'm not sure how long he'll last from reaction I've seen about the threads
Lena J
11-09-2011
Originally Posted by muggins14:
“Sadly this Mark is the one who is already p'ing me off the most and I'm not sure how long he'll last from reaction I've seen about the threads ”

Oh dear. Trust John to get on with someone who irritates everyone, sounds like a Sammy Pepper situation again. That's why we all love him. Off for a quick gander.
muggins14
11-09-2011
Originally Posted by Lena J:
“Oh dear. Trust John to get on with someone who irritates everyone, sounds like a Sammy Pepper situation again. That's why we all love him. Off for a quick gander. ”

lol he doesn't irritate cause he's a joker, he just seems really needy (asked Harry if he'd still share a bed with him when a free bed came up which caused a thread in itself ) and was the one going on about the egg-shaped bath to all who entered on first night
annemarie1066
11-09-2011
Originally Posted by muggins14:
“Sadly this Mark is the one who is already p'ing me off the most and I'm not sure how long he'll last from reaction I've seen about the threads ”

Hi Muggins

Lovely post from John and pretty typical that he breaks his silence to promote someone else. My initial reactions to John weren't good and had I relied wholly on the highlights might not have changed.
I'll reserve judgement at this stage, tbh they seem a pretty alien bunch at present and I'm learning all the wrong things about them at the moment but hopefully that will improve
ucra girl
11-09-2011
Originally Posted by muggins14:
“http://t.co/yKlz8wh

John posted on Loys ”

Oo great news to see that he is keeping an eye on events in the BB house.John is the type of person to like someone like Mark,people who dont take themselves too seriously.Mark hasnt annoyed me yet but it is likely he will be nominated quite quickly,the ppublic might save him thou.
AlexBB3
11-09-2011
Originally Posted by abbieluvs22:
“Same with John - I do think John was a little silly to ever do the interview about Sherrie and I don't really understand his reasoning for it. He could of just told Josie and then he could of avoided a lot of the hate - then again I suppose he felt he had to justify himself as it wouldn't have been fair to only hear Josie's view.”

I don't agree with the part of your post above. He wanted to get JJJ fans to understand and come to terms with the fact that the relationship was finito. Even with the Sherrie article, there are still some who 4 months on refuse to accept it's over. So had he not done the article, there'd be even more of those folks who just don't get it. He may perhaps also have felt it was a way of answering back against the cheating slurs from Team Gibson at the time, but if that was the case I think it was ill-advised to believe it would settle things on that score.

Guess I can see your point in PR terms . . . as it meant he could be painted as the bad guy by a lot of JJJers - for having put an end to their hopes and dreams. But in the real world, I think it was the more honest and forthright approach, and entirely consistent with the personality I watched and grew to love in BB11.
AlexBB3
11-09-2011
Originally Posted by annemarie1066:
“I'll reserve judgement at this stage, tbh they seem a pretty alien bunch at present and I'm learning all the wrong things about them at the moment but hopefully that will improve”

Originally Posted by Lena J:
“You're right I remember he was asking if anybody knew how to contact him. Wow, may have to take a look at BB now, and I vowed I wasn't going to watch.”

It's worth a look guys, they're quite an interesting bunch on first viewing . . . providing you don't intend to get too moralistic about it. I see the poledancer is already being accused on MF of being a prostitute!
The ratings are poor so far, so they need all the help you can give them!
ellemay
11-09-2011
Originally Posted by AlexBB3:
“It's worth a look guys, they're quite an interesting bunch on first viewing . . . providing you don't intend to analyse it as too much of a morality play. I see the poledancer is already being accused on MF of being a prostitute!
The ratings are poor so far, so they need all the help you can give them! ”

I always say i wont watch. I usually get drawn in after a few weeks, not so sure this time with no live feed.
georgyporgy
11-09-2011
Good evening jjat

before i read back and catch up
sending my very best wishes to nyannie
thinking of you and your beautiful city today

georgy x
ucra girl
11-09-2011
Originally Posted by muggins14:
“I think that, in the eyes of the media currently, they are only becoming aware of Josie a bit because she appears on TV sometimes now, and goes to more events, and so might become more known to those that read the magazines that these kinds of pictures would appear in (from these kinds of events I mean), or mags that are interested in BB.

Therefore I do not think that Josie will permanently be connected to John in the eyes of the media, because - beyond actual articles and interviews done with the two of them that were arranged by them/their management at the time - they weren't sought out by the press during their time together, were never papped. There have been more papped pics of Josie since her split with John and her increased visibility in her own right on TV, so the John connection you mention above I don't see that as being the case.

”

My taking is that it is the articles and interviews that Josie has done mentioning John after the split that will connect her to John media wise.If she had kept quiet there would be no references by now.If you ride that boat with the media,they will ride it back. The new b/f will to have to be in the background.The individual Josie papping has been equally matched with her mentioning John all the time so there is no 'only Josie'.She has used the media to get at John and cant shake them off just because she wants to.
That is why they are 'quoting' her now even if she 'doesnt say'.
AlexBB3
11-09-2011
Originally Posted by ellemay:
“I always say i wont watch. I usually get drawn in after a few weeks, not so sure this time with no live feed.”

Go for it!

So do we think that John is happy for a Loys mole to have leaked this message to twitter??
muggins14
11-09-2011
Originally Posted by AlexBB3:
“I don't agree with the part of your post above. He wanted to get the JJJ fans to understand and come to terms with the fact that the relationship was finito. Even with the Sherrie article, there are still some who 4 months on refuse to accept it's over. So had he not done the article, there'd be even more of those folks who just don't get it. He may perhaps also have felt it was a way of answering back against the cheating slurs from Team Gibson at the time, but if it was I think it was ill-advised to do it in that way.

Perhaps I would agree with you if I looked at it in terms of PR . . . as it meant he could be painted as the bad guy by a lot of JJJers - for having put an end to their hopes and dreams. But in the real world, I think it was the more honest and forthright approach, and entirely consistent with the personality I watched and grew to love in BB11.”

I think that, with all the ideas put forward about why the article was done - attempting to see it from John's point of view as to why he would do it, I agree with what you say above. Whatever the effect might have been or whether it was a good or bad idea, I think that he thought it would have the effect of clarifying the situation for everybody and helping them to move on.

Not sure I made sense there but hey ho
georgyporgy
11-09-2011
Originally Posted by Izzie321:
“Hi all!

Just popped over the border for a read and had to say this is almost spot on imo!

I don't think it was a case of BB eyes. It was real. But their lives and values didn't fit... and the realisation happened against their will but was inevitable nevertheless.

Also I don't think your view is un-romantic at all.”

Welcome Izzie
thankyou for posting on the jjat
hope you pop in again
and post
best wishes
Georgyx
muggins14
11-09-2011
Originally Posted by AlexBB3:
“Go for it!

So do we think that John is happy for a Loys mole to have leaked this message to twitter?? ”

Because of it's massive political content or secretly coded messages?

No seriously, I thought they were going to ask him the next time he was on, but I don't think they did lol. If he reads twitter then he will be aware that the last message made it over to there, and so the probability would be that this one would make it there somehow too.
muggins14
11-09-2011
Right, off out now, although there seems to be a storm a-brewing! Have a good evening
ellemay
11-09-2011
Originally Posted by AlexBB3:
“Go for it!

So do we think that John is happy for a Loys mole to have leaked this message to twitter?? ”

I really dont think he's that interested to be honest. He must know whatever he puts on there gets out. I dont think for a minute he would post something he didnt want getting out. Does that make sense.? lol

I think the mole love the attention bless.
ellemay
11-09-2011
Originally Posted by muggins14:
“Right, off out now, although there seems to be a storm a-brewing! Have a good evening ”

See you later Muggins.
AlexBB3
11-09-2011
Originally Posted by muggins14:
“Because of it's massive political content or secretly coded messages?

No seriously, I thought they were going to ask him the next time he was on, but I don't think they did lol. If he reads twitter then he will be aware that the last message made it over to there, and so the probability would be that this one would make it there somehow too.”

Content is irrelevant. If a Loys member is leaking stuff against the group's rules, then that shouldn't happen.
It probably doesn't matter whether John approved its release as I doubt the motivation of JohnJamesClub and whether they would respect John's wishes anyway.
Nonetheless, it's good to see a more forthcoming John this time and hopefully he won't be discouraged from posting there again.
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