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The John James Appreciation Thread (Part 9)
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Lena J
13-09-2011
Originally Posted by AlexBB3:
“Great news to have confirmation of the new bf, Luke - despite the lying denials on Muckers Forever last week and clutching at straws re BOTS "hard times" comment. Happy for Josie and glad she didn't go for a zeleb bf.

Interesting that she once said OK! was the only mag for her, but now here she is forced into using Now, lol. Puts last week's Closer sympathy article in context as well ie, its purpose was to soften the backlash from disappointed reuniters.

Will be fun to watch the double standards from the faux amis - staged pap pics by John and now by Josie. And no doubt Luke is just trying to get publicity for his plumbing business??

The reuniters will ofc wheel out another version of their religion of selective blindness - belief flying in the face of all the evidence. :yawn:

And meanwhile John is just watching those wheels go round, as his Ex ticks off another box in the standard menu of zeleb mag credentials. ”

1st BIB An advertisement free zone imposed as I recall.

2nd BIB So far I've witnessed:
The ostrich approach - If I don't look I can stay in my little bubble.
The OK bible approach - Only mag Josie trusts.
The Tit for Tat approach - Virtually identical article and pics therefore no new bf/gf.
The Fate approach - They were meant to be, this is just a little hiccup.
The Face Facts approach - They've both moved on, we should be happy for them.
Happy to say that there are quite a few of these.

I'm waiting though to see the night sky as I am expecting the 'it's not the same as John showed no respect he moved on too fast' followed by the 'was Sherrie already lined up' discussions.

A few things I want to go back to re posts from last night and I WATCHED BB so am ready to give an opinion on some of the hm's.
annemarie1066
13-09-2011
Originally Posted by Lena J:
“1st BIB An advertisement free zone imposed as I recall.

2nd BIB So far I've witnessed:
The ostrich approach - If I don't look I can stay in my little bubble.
The OK bible approach - Only mag Josie trusts.
The Tit for Tat approach - Virtually identical article and pics therefore no new bf/gf.
The Fate approach - They were meant to be, this is just a little hiccup.
The Face Facts approach - They've both moved on, we should be happy for them.
Happy to say that there are quite a few of these.

I'm waiting though to see the night sky as I am expecting the 'it's not the same as John showed no respect he moved on too fast' followed by the 'was Sherrie already lined up' discussions.

A few things I want to go back to re posts from last night and I WATCHED BB so am ready to give an opinion on some of the hm's.”

Can't resist nipping in from work to say that I am chuffed /relieved she has a fella. Shame she didn't call the GMs(gobby muckers) off John earlier. She has been seeing him since June so they both moved on quickly, no issues with that except she continued to play the victim. Someone on my Twitter TL retweeted the 'Don't mention my name in papped articles' tweet which was of course ironic.

Hopefully we now have total separation which will allow John to communicate as and when he chooses
Lena J
13-09-2011
All good wishes to JJ on Thursday night. A true and loyal friend to John. http://www.skysports.com/video/inlin...174177,00.html
muggins14
13-09-2011
Just popping on to say Hi, have a great day, very tired up all night lol

Originally Posted by ellemay:
“After watching that crap last night i'm missng BB 11

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltMXqv8tmbY

http://www.youtube.com/user/Snorbius1#p/u/6/zsg2ijnbhGg”

Great to watch those and of course Billy Joel is THE man
ellemay
13-09-2011
Originally Posted by Lena J:
“All good wishes to JJ on Thursday night. A true and loyal friend to John. http://www.skysports.com/video/inlin...174177,00.html ”

Good luck JJ x

http://www.youtube.com/user/Snorbius1#p/u/5/kKKBhjk0W1I
ellemay
13-09-2011
Originally Posted by muggins14:
“Just popping on to say Hi, have a great day, very tired up all night lol



Great to watch those and of course Billy Joel is THE man ”

I'm a bit nostalgic. It just seems like both have moved on and we should be remembering what a great summer they gave us.
nyannie
13-09-2011
Originally Posted by Lena J:
“All good wishes to JJ on Thursday night. A true and loyal friend to John. http://www.skysports.com/video/inlin...174177,00.html ”

I will second that. JJ is everything a true friend should be - loyal, discrete and honest. Hope he does very well on Thursday. Go JJ go!
ellemay
13-09-2011
Last one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gx2ulZRTXes
augusta92
13-09-2011
Originally Posted by Lena J:
“Hi ucra, I don't know where the delete twitter came from but she was tweeting last night and it's there now.

More interesting is the reaction to the 'papped' photos. When the NOW article of John and Sherrie came out, he was branded as being cruel and doing it to hurt Josie. It was generally accepted that John had colluded with NOW.

Today we have a virtually identical set of pics, strolling in a park hand in hand, stopping for a kiss, etc. The only missing one is Josie scowling over her shoulder like John did. We even have the standard source, 'a friend'. Now the boot is on the other foot they need confirmation of what a 'papped'pic is and I don't think some of them like the answer.

John and Josie's relationship in the article has been described as a 'flop', apparently their body language expert Judi James (the one bb always wheels out during the series) says they have much more chemistry than John and Josie ever had. NOW of course, want you to vote on who's hotter John or new man.

But the biggest thing that made me crack up is that if you look closely it appears new man is holding a box of
RIBENA!!! Hahahahha

Infact she's tweeting right now about new man.”


the only differences are the timing....


and Why on earth are Now trying to compare this new guy to John?..... luke doesnt look anything special....to me he looks pretty normal, a straightforward tall skinny guy....
nyannie
13-09-2011
Originally Posted by ellemay:
“Last one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gx2ulZRTXes”


Aaaah - those were the days. . . happy memories!

Thanks ellemay for reminding me.
augusta92
13-09-2011
Originally Posted by Lena J:
“All good wishes to JJ on Thursday night. A true and loyal friend to John. http://www.skysports.com/video/inlin...174177,00.html ”

id like to join in ...good luck JJ for thursday.

Its taken him a year to mention one of his best mates from childhood, well done JJ, hopefully he will do JLS proud
augusta92
13-09-2011
Originally Posted by ellemay:
“Good luck JJ x

http://www.youtube.com/user/Snorbius1#p/u/5/kKKBhjk0W1I”


I love the memories.....

But this one from TSAJ is so sad, John looks so miserable and unhappy almost all the way through......

by the way, at the start at the fitness show, when JJ is doing the arm wrestling, there is a tall blonde girl standing behind watching who looks a lot like Sherrie, or am I imagining it?
bblover
13-09-2011
Originally Posted by augusta92:
“I love the memories.....

But this one from TSAJ is so sad, John looks so miserable and unhappy almost all the way through......

by the way, at the start at the fitness show, when JJ is doing the arm wrestling, there is a tall blonde girl standing behind watching who looks a lot like Sherrie, or am I imagining it?”

Thanks for the YouTubes

No,it is not Sherrie MarionI think you are indeed imagining it

Good luck JJ,not a fan of boxing,but wish him all the best.

Wonder if John happy about the new BB,with no LF,you can hardly get to know the HMs.
augusta92
13-09-2011
Originally Posted by bblover:
“Thanks for the YouTubes

No,it is not Sherrie MarionI think you are indeed imagining it

Good luck JJ,not a fan of boxing,but wish him all the best.

Wonder if John happy about the new BB,with no LF,you can hardly get to know the HMs.”


fair enough........as im not sure id recognise sherrie in a crowd!!!! But the girl in the crowd did look familar somehow...where else have I seen her?

And I agree about the live feed.... without it its not really worth watching the rest of the show.....

And as for the Kerrah and Lucien romance that is splattered across the pages of OK magazine...what on earth is going on......is there anyone who believes that this is genuine?


and does anyone know what was Pamela Anderson upset about last night on BBbots?
bblover
13-09-2011
Originally Posted by augusta92:
“fair enough........as im not sure id recognise sherrie in a crowd!!!! But the girl in the crowd did look familar somehow...where else have I seen her?

And I agree about the live feed.... without it its not really worth watching the rest of the show.....

And as for the Kerrah and Lucien romance that is splattered across the pages of OK magazine...what on earth is going on......is there anyone who believes that this is genuine?


and does anyone know what was Pamela Anderson upset about last night on BBbots?”

Say what?
ellemay
13-09-2011
Originally Posted by augusta92:
“
and does anyone know what was Pamela Anderson upset about last night on BBbots?”

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showt...354123&page=47

Victor mentions it on post 1159
ellemay
13-09-2011
Originally Posted by bblover:
“Say what?”

Front of Ok Mag can it get any worse.?
augusta92
13-09-2011
Originally Posted by bblover:
“Say what?”


There is a front page spread and article in todays OK magazine ... talking about how Lucien and Kerry are so much in love...
.they came out of the house and spent four hours in Kerry's hotel room and now they are a genuine couple....

its so sweet....but I havent yet seen anyone on the main boards who seems to believe that it is real...
but surely it must be ...cos didnt Josie say that OK magazine are the only ones who can get the story straight and tell the truth?
AlexBB3
13-09-2011
1. As spotted by Annemarie, this was tweeted:

Quote "Next time u sell pap pics to a mag do u think you could ask them to keep my name out. Its gona be hard but give it a go." .DITTO!!

The tweeter was then attacked by various GMs. :yawn:

2. Fascinating piece of illogic being used by reuniters on twitter today. Apparently John's gf article and Josie's bf article are just media put-up jobs, so should be ignored even though Josie has confirmed it. Of course, last week, when JJAT suggested the Closer article about Josie's phone/text threats were a media hype story, we were evil and venomous. Go figure!

3. Josie happier with new bf than with John apparently (bottomup)

tishini123 @Mr__Ree @LauraMoores33 So true Ree and Laura, Everyone has been commenting on how fab she looks lately, now we know why ..lol x
Mr__Ree @LauraMoores33 Real men make a woman feel good about herself. #fact 2 hours ago
LauraMoores33 Let's Not Tell A Lie .. Josie Looks A Lot Happier Than She Did With John! Don't Be Bitter .. Jedward Style - 'It's Not Cool Okay!' Haha!

4. Fantastic opportunity to spot the faux amis. You can tell from whether people react with anger to (i) anti-John tweets (ii) anti-Josie tweets or (iii) both, whether they are faux amis. Classic example was this tweet which exposed some tell-tale responses:

paulnlynne so josie has a new boyfriend good for her hope her muckers now leave john alone so he can come bk to twitter lets hope luke doesnt do twitt

There have already been several others today, very informative.

5. GMs attacking other BB HMs on twitter for the crime of not being supportive enough of the Ex:

- budda234567
- lorweir
- juliam53
- tishini123
- fluffyeg
- ilovetoread17

I wonder how many supposed JJJ fans are following these folks on twitter and turn a blind eye to their actions . . . yet attack and unfollow other tweeters? Selective outrage is a give-away sign of the true loyalty behind supposed JJJ allegiance.

No doubt there'll be more bulletins to follow.
bblover
13-09-2011
Originally Posted by ellemay:
“Front of Ok Mag can it get any worse.?”

I just had a look at the MF...What can i say lolBest of luck to them both//?

Brought memories back of John,in hilarious costumes on the front of the cover....CRINGE.
herejohno
13-09-2011
Originally Posted by augusta92:
“There is a front page spread and article in todays OK magazine ... talking about how Lucien and Kerry are so much in love...
.they came out of the house and spent four hours in Kerry's hotel room and now they are a genuine couple....

its so sweet....but I havent yet seen anyone on the main boards who seems to believe that it is real...
but surely it must be ...cos didnt Josie say that OK magazine are the only ones who can get the story straight and tell the truth?”

Must be the truth then if Jose says it the truth Irony
bblover
13-09-2011
Originally Posted by augusta92:
“There is a front page spread and article in todays OK magazine ... talking about how Lucien and Kerry are so much in love...
.they came out of the house and spent four hours in Kerry's hotel room and now they are a genuine couple....

its so sweet....but I havent yet seen anyone on the main boards who seems to believe that it is real...
but surely it must be ...cos didnt Josie say that OK magazine are the only ones who can get the story straight and tell the truth?”

Of course she would have to say that,she had a contract with them at that time

Have to say i'm surprised,didn't see that coming,i thought both made it clear they were not attracted to each other in that way......oh well the temptations was too strong

Originally Posted by AlexBB3:
“1. As spotted by Annemarie, this was tweeted:

Quote "Next time u sell pap pics to a mag do u think you could ask them to keep my name out. Its gona be hard but give it a go." .DITTO!!

The tweeter was then attacked by various GMs. :yawn:

2. Fascinating piece of illogic being used by reuniters on twitter today. Apparently John's gf article and Josie's bf article are just media put-up jobs, so should be ignored even though Josie has confirmed it. Of course, last week, when JJAT suggested the Closer article about Josie's phone/text threats were a media hype story, we were evil and venomous. Go figure!

3. Fantastic opportunity to spot the faux amis. You can tell from whether people react with anger to (i) anti-John tweets (ii) anti-Josie tweets or (iii) both, whether they are faux amis. Classic example was this tweet which exposed some tell-tale responses:

paulnlynne so josie has a new boyfriend good for her hope her muckers now leave john alone so he can come bk to twitter lets hope luke doesnt do twitt

There have already been several others today, very informative.

4. GMs attacking other BB HMs on twitter for the crime of not being supportive enough of the Ex:

- budda234567
- lorweir
- juliam53
- tishini123
- fluffyeg
- ilovetoread17

I wonder how many supposed JJJ fans are following these folks on twitter and turn a blind eye to their actions . . . yet attack and unfollow other tweeters? Selective outrage is a give-away sign of the true loyalty behind supposed JJJ allegiance.

No doubt there'll be more bulletins to follow.”

As John would say,i couldn't give a rip

Both have long move on,now it is time to the loys/muckers to move on too,and not stir things.
nyannie
13-09-2011
Originally Posted by herejohno:
“Must be the truth then if Jose says it the truth Irony”

More double standards. Kereeh said on OKTV last night that she considered Lucien a younger brother.

No doubt lots of cash passed hands to get this photoshoot.

As for the NOW article - what can I possibly say that hasn't been said before. Hope the attacks on John stop and he feels he can come back to the UK.
AlexBB3
13-09-2011
Originally Posted by Lena J:
“1st BIB An advertisement free zone imposed as I recall.

2nd BIB So far I've witnessed:
The ostrich approach - If I don't look I can stay in my little bubble.
The OK bible approach - Only mag Josie trusts.
The Tit for Tat approach - Virtually identical article and pics therefore no new bf/gf.
The Fate approach - They were meant to be, this is just a little hiccup.
The Face Facts approach - They've both moved on, we should be happy for them.
Happy to say that there are quite a few of these.

I'm waiting though to see the night sky as I am expecting the 'it's not the same as John showed no respect he moved on too fast' followed by the 'was Sherrie already lined up' discussions.

A few things I want to go back to re posts from last night and I WATCHED BB so am ready to give an opinion on some of the hm's.”

Love it. Pls keep us posted with your lunar observations.

Looking forward to the BB stuff as well.
AlexBB3
13-09-2011
Originally Posted by HughesyMac:
“This was in reply to Lindy's post on whether love conquers all. It really interests me as I've often pondered this myself, but never came to any concusion. Similar backgrounds, values and beliefs surely must remove obstacles at the first post, but I believe compromise can overcome any difficulties these present.

Most important to me is how each person in the relationship treats the other. Just plain decent behaviour, consideration, respect and good manners - I could go on. In other words, the way we treat our friends and aquaintances if we want to keep them. Sometimes couples forget to do this especially when they run into difficulties.

I also meant to quote Lindy's post (not up to speed on this yet) where she mentioned John's obvious escalating stress I particularly noticed this when he and Josie were on the Vanessa show. This was confirmed by him in that OK magazine joint interview when he mentioned his reasons for leaving was because he couldn't stay in England when he felt insecure. How awful to feel that way and how are you supposed to make a relationship work under those circumstances?

I'm not trying to say that that he was perfect and easy to live with. Of course he wasn't and we all saw that on BB. However, we also saw the integrity, loyalty, compassion and other admirable qualities he had. Not sure Corin and one or two other HMs would agree as they were on the receiving end of his rants. But this is what is so interesting about his character - it was multifaceted. Hope this makes sense.”

Hughesy - great post, I totally agree with paras 2-4.

Just to test para 1 (no right/wrong answer obviously). Isn't the danger that you fall in love with your heart (happens instinctively and, for the best sort of love anyway, without being analytical or sometimes even rational). But every individual has boundary issues and principles which go to their core. Can you really compromise those to make it work? I guess the answer may come down to which one of the two of you have to compromise on the boundary issue (if it's an all-or-nothing one, anyway). So, for example, let's say I fall in love with someone and find out that she works as a prostitute or a pornstar. The fact that she did that wouldn't alter my view of her as a friend but would be nigh impossible I think for me to compromise on in a partner. Perhaps you'd say: well she ought to make the compromise and give it up, but then again why should she if it's what she wants to do. Lindy might counter my argument by advising that folks shouldn't fall in love too quickly but discover these potential obstacles early on and then filter out love on that basis, I guess?? Think I'm still sticking with my original premise that love is necessary, but not sufficient.
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