Right, I guess I have to go and be mother for a while dammit 
lol
Talk soon, cheery-bye
lolTalk soon, cheery-bye
The John James Appreciation Thread (Part 9)
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Originally Posted by muggins14:
“I loved Andrew as Jack Bauer, watermelon night... interesting both Andrew moments but for me the line of the show is from Marcus Bentley 'John James and Josie are going for a ... lie down' and John giving him the Jaffa cake was class ”
“I loved Andrew as Jack Bauer, watermelon night... interesting both Andrew moments
but for me the line of the show is from Marcus Bentley 'John James and Josie are going for a ... lie down' and John giving him the Jaffa cake was class ”
Feel like a naughty schoolgirl. Hubby out tonight so I can participaten in the forum after 6 pm!
I too loved Marcus Bentley and John on ignore the obvious day. Love his voice.
Cheeky, very good post, not being a member of either Twitter or fb, I sometimes feel I am missing out. As for John, he always seemed to twitter when he didn't have anything better to do. As Cheeky said, he doesn't owe us anything. he's very
Originally Posted by muggins14:
“The question is, should Shabby have been allowed into the BB House... did she not admit she wasn't taking her meds at the time or all of the time, something like that?”
“The question is, should Shabby have been allowed into the BB House... did she not admit she wasn't taking her meds at the time or all of the time, something like that?”
Have to say I questioned this too. She did say she was taking some kind of medication. I've also questioned why some of the people going into the BB house in the past. Wonder what kind of psychological tests housemates actually take?
Multiquoting for England - so please feel free to totally ignore
Thank you Lena - I believe you are right - I am sure it was of great interest - but it's time for me to let go and move on - if they delete this mega-quote heads will roll
I agree Sam Pepper is a bit of a love - he appears to have a heart of gold under that rather annoying exterior.
Lovely post and agree - just miss him tweeting really - bit selfish I know - but got used to him - liked him - would like to see more of him
I hope so but think not - I was talking to a friend earlier on twitter about this - I think they wont more control to edit - last year the LF allowed us to see the real HM and not the ones they would have liked us to see (are you with me)
Ditto - "Mute" never looked so good.
There is a clip with John James and Andrew dancing (well I say dancing - but you know what I mean) so funnnnnnnnnny if anyone comes across it could they post it please - think its round the glee task time.
Keeva felt she had no option than to leave - though it would have taken a minor earthquake for Corin to budge but the bullying was of equal degree to my way of thinking.
My favourite moment - after John had left and they were in the bedroom building a fort - funniest thing in the whole series.
Dont be long - I am actually missing you this evening x
Originally Posted by Lena J:
“Hi Deefs, I was so disappointed when I read that your post had been for the highjump, I'm sure it would have made interesting reading. I lost one the other night and all I did was say hello to the newbie and confirmed for them something about someone on twitter and their connection with someone else on fb: and it disappeared within fifteen minutes!:”
“Hi Deefs, I was so disappointed when I read that your post had been for the highjump, I'm sure it would have made interesting reading. I lost one the other night and all I did was say hello to the newbie and confirmed for them something about someone on twitter and their connection with someone else on fb: and it disappeared within fifteen minutes!:”
Thank you Lena - I believe you are right - I am sure it was of great interest - but it's time for me to let go and move on - if they delete this mega-quote heads will roll
Originally Posted by ucra girl:
“Welldone to Sam Pepper
”
“Welldone to Sam Pepper
”
I agree Sam Pepper is a bit of a love - he appears to have a heart of gold under that rather annoying exterior.
Originally Posted by CheekySAUCISSON:
“Hola!! Just wanted to bring my thoughts over from next door for anyone who may give a rip
But my view (for what it is worth) on the 'TO TWEET OR NOT TO TWEET?' John debate: I firmly believe that everybody has the right to use their own twitter accounts for whatever purposes, to tweet whatever opinions, give whatever information about their life as little or as often as they please. Yes, it is sad that we don't get to hear from him as much now (not that he was the most religious tweeter even when he lived in the UK .. he'd go weeks without tweeting then too but then come back with a BANG and tweet heaps!) but we must respect that. It is up to him!! Of course I'd like him to tweet more (I won't pretend that I wouldn't like that) but I don't think it is fair of his followers to pester him or try to guilt him into tweeting.
(I don't mean that nobody should tweet him .. tweet him as much as you like - maybe you'll persuade him to come out and play?)
Let him come to us on twitter when he feels ready or when he has something to say. And should the day come when he decides to delete his account .. we'll just have to deal with that because it is his life after all - to live it the way he sees fit. The way that makes him happy.
I agree with Ali and Heidi's posts on the subject. I just don't think he knows WHAT the hell to say now .. that he hasn't already. He's smart - he knows that aaaaanything he does tweet will be jumped on, reading between the lines will happen, some will ASSUME it relates to Josie or the way he feels about her in some way (whether that be positively or negatively) there will be a million different interpretations flying around - most of which will be WAY off the mark .. look at what happens when he just 's at us for goodness sake!! I can't blame him for taking a twitter back seat (for however long he wishes to do so) .. he must wonder if it's really worth the hassle.
He doesn't owe us one little thing - we're not entitled to a travelogue of all the activities of his day (he's not living his life on a twitter 24/7 live feed like the BB days - although I'd like to have a little glimpse and see how he IS and what he's doing back home) I like to think that it is like Kay says and that he is ENJOYING himself - this is what I'm choosing to believe anyway (I wouldn't like to think of him being miserable in life) Plus, isn't there more to life than TWITTER and other social networking sites????? *Gasps* YES, SHE DID SAY IT!!!!
I know - a crazy notion isn't it? I try not to spend too much time on there as it is hard to stop tweeting when you start a 'session.'”
“Hola!! Just wanted to bring my thoughts over from next door for anyone who may give a rip
But my view (for what it is worth) on the 'TO TWEET OR NOT TO TWEET?' John debate: I firmly believe that everybody has the right to use their own twitter accounts for whatever purposes, to tweet whatever opinions, give whatever information about their life as little or as often as they please. Yes, it is sad that we don't get to hear from him as much now (not that he was the most religious tweeter even when he lived in the UK .. he'd go weeks without tweeting then too but then come back with a BANG and tweet heaps!) but we must respect that. It is up to him!! Of course I'd like him to tweet more (I won't pretend that I wouldn't like that) but I don't think it is fair of his followers to pester him or try to guilt him into tweeting.
(I don't mean that nobody should tweet him .. tweet him as much as you like - maybe you'll persuade him to come out and play?) Let him come to us on twitter when he feels ready or when he has something to say. And should the day come when he decides to delete his account .. we'll just have to deal with that because it is his life after all - to live it the way he sees fit. The way that makes him happy.
I agree with Ali and Heidi's posts on the subject. I just don't think he knows WHAT the hell to say now .. that he hasn't already. He's smart - he knows that aaaaanything he does tweet will be jumped on, reading between the lines will happen, some will ASSUME it relates to Josie or the way he feels about her in some way (whether that be positively or negatively) there will be a million different interpretations flying around - most of which will be WAY off the mark .. look at what happens when he just 's at us for goodness sake!! I can't blame him for taking a twitter back seat (for however long he wishes to do so) .. he must wonder if it's really worth the hassle.
He doesn't owe us one little thing - we're not entitled to a travelogue of all the activities of his day (he's not living his life on a twitter 24/7 live feed like the BB days - although I'd like to have a little glimpse and see how he IS and what he's doing back home) I like to think that it is like Kay says and that he is ENJOYING himself - this is what I'm choosing to believe anyway (I wouldn't like to think of him being miserable in life) Plus, isn't there more to life than TWITTER and other social networking sites????? *Gasps* YES, SHE DID SAY IT!!!!
I know - a crazy notion isn't it? I try not to spend too much time on there as it is hard to stop tweeting when you start a 'session.'”
Lovely post and agree - just miss him tweeting really - bit selfish I know - but got used to him - liked him - would like to see more of him
Originally Posted by bblover:
“Do you think LF will return after CBB?”
“Do you think LF will return after CBB?”
I hope so but think not - I was talking to a friend earlier on twitter about this - I think they wont more control to edit - last year the LF allowed us to see the real HM and not the ones they would have liked us to see (are you with me
)
Originally Posted by annemarie1066:
“They had already had a taste of Sam when his hat went missing. I've never been so grateful for volume control”
“They had already had a taste of Sam when his hat went missing. I've never been so grateful for volume control”
Ditto - "Mute" never looked so good.
Originally Posted by bblover:
“John James dancing is always fun...neh”
“John James dancing is always fun...neh”
There is a clip with John James and Andrew dancing (well I say dancing - but you know what I mean) so funnnnnnnnnny if anyone comes across it could they post it please - think its round the glee task time.
Originally Posted by AlexBB3:
“But this illustrates exactly the problem I outlined. You've made a subjective judgement that the Corin/Sam wig-gate episode was worse than my examples 1-10. I wouldn't agree with that analysis, example 1 was the worst example of house bullying imo. You think Corin became "genuinely upset", whereas I think Keeva became "genuinely upset". And the fact that Keeva felt she had to walk out a day later, whereas Corin didn't, suggests my psychological analysis may be the more correct one. You say Corin was very isolated, but I just don't see that. She may not have been helped about the makeup but HMs generally were on friendly terms with her (unlike Keeva's isolation) - so she should have been (and indeed was) able to cope.
So let's say Corin has an insecurity about her wigs/makeup, John has an insecurity about being called crabeyes and Josie has an insecurity about everything (according to her fans). Which insecurities do you want BB to protect, to avoid cruelty to HMs. After all John had to put up with crabeye taunts at various points over many weeks - was that cruel, or should he just man-up on a gameshow?
I might be able to buy into your approach if I thought there was some way of avoiding it spiralling into a victim's charter. In particular, I'd hate to introduce an incentive for those who whine (DQs and complainers) rather than those who just get on with things. In the context of this discussion, it's worth saying though that I don't think either Keeva or Corin are in the former category - so in that case it boils down to whether a line was crossed whereby they needed protection.
Of course there must always be boundaries and clear cut bullying yes, HMs are entitled to be protected . . . but let's remember that FMs are complaining every few minutes on this forum that someone or other is being bullied so BB have a very subjective call to make most of the time. I just think that regardless where we draw those boundaries, FMs will always have very different views about when they've been crossed - as you and I have just demonstrated in our respective "sympathies" for Corin and Keeva.”
“But this illustrates exactly the problem I outlined. You've made a subjective judgement that the Corin/Sam wig-gate episode was worse than my examples 1-10. I wouldn't agree with that analysis, example 1 was the worst example of house bullying imo. You think Corin became "genuinely upset", whereas I think Keeva became "genuinely upset". And the fact that Keeva felt she had to walk out a day later, whereas Corin didn't, suggests my psychological analysis may be the more correct one. You say Corin was very isolated, but I just don't see that. She may not have been helped about the makeup but HMs generally were on friendly terms with her (unlike Keeva's isolation) - so she should have been (and indeed was) able to cope.
So let's say Corin has an insecurity about her wigs/makeup, John has an insecurity about being called crabeyes and Josie has an insecurity about everything (according to her fans). Which insecurities do you want BB to protect, to avoid cruelty to HMs. After all John had to put up with crabeye taunts at various points over many weeks - was that cruel, or should he just man-up on a gameshow?
I might be able to buy into your approach if I thought there was some way of avoiding it spiralling into a victim's charter. In particular, I'd hate to introduce an incentive for those who whine (DQs and complainers) rather than those who just get on with things. In the context of this discussion, it's worth saying though that I don't think either Keeva or Corin are in the former category - so in that case it boils down to whether a line was crossed whereby they needed protection.
Of course there must always be boundaries and clear cut bullying yes, HMs are entitled to be protected . . . but let's remember that FMs are complaining every few minutes on this forum that someone or other is being bullied so BB have a very subjective call to make most of the time. I just think that regardless where we draw those boundaries, FMs will always have very different views about when they've been crossed - as you and I have just demonstrated in our respective "sympathies" for Corin and Keeva.”
Keeva felt she had no option than to leave - though it would have taken a minor earthquake for Corin to budge but the bullying was of equal degree to my way of thinking.
Originally Posted by bblover:
“Andrew and his affairs with the melons and apple pies?
I think another one of the funniest moments imo,was Ben in the DR with the clown ROFL”
“Andrew and his affairs with the melons and apple pies?
I think another one of the funniest moments imo,was Ben in the DR with the clown ROFL”
My favourite moment - after John had left and they were in the bedroom building a fort - funniest thing in the whole series.
Originally Posted by muggins14:
“Right, I guess I have to go and be mother for a while dammit lol
Talk soon, cheery-bye”
“Right, I guess I have to go and be mother for a while dammit lol
Talk soon, cheery-bye
”
Dont be long - I am actually missing you this evening x
Originally Posted by CheekySAUCISSON:
“Hola!! Just wanted to bring my thoughts over from next door for anyone who may give a rip
But my view (for what it is worth) on the 'TO TWEET OR NOT TO TWEET?' John debate: I firmly believe that everybody has the right to use their own twitter accounts for whatever purposes, to tweet whatever opinions, give whatever information about their life as little or as often as they please. Yes, it is sad that we don't get to hear from him as much now (not that he was the most religious tweeter even when he lived in the UK .. he'd go weeks without tweeting then too but then come back with a BANG and tweet heaps!) but we must respect that. It is up to him!! Of course I'd like him to tweet more (I won't pretend that I wouldn't like that) but I don't think it is fair of his followers to pester him or try to guilt him into tweeting. (I don't mean that nobody should tweet him .. tweet him as much as you like - maybe you'll persuade him to come out and play?)
Let him come to us on twitter when he feels ready or when he has something to say. And should the day come when he decides to delete his account .. we'll just have to deal with that because it is his life after all - to live it the way he sees fit. The way that makes him happy.
I agree with Ali and Heidi's posts on the subject. I just don't think he knows WHAT the hell to say now .. that he hasn't already. He's smart - he knows that aaaaanything he does tweet will be jumped on, reading between the lines will happen, some will ASSUME it relates to Josie or the way he feels about her in some way (whether that be positively or negatively) there will be a million different interpretations flying around - most of which will be WAY off the mark .. look at what happens when he just 's at us for goodness sake!! I can't blame him for taking a twitter back seat (for however long he wishes to do so) .. he must wonder if it's really worth the hassle.
He doesn't owe us one little thing - we're not entitled to a travelogue of all the activities of his day (he's not living his life on a twitter 24/7 live feed like the BB days - although I'd like to have a little glimpse and see how he IS and what he's doing back home) I like to think that it is like Kay says and that he is ENJOYING himself - this is what I'm choosing to believe anyway (I wouldn't like to think of him being miserable in life) Plus, isn't there more to life than TWITTER and other social networking sites????? *Gasps* YES, SHE DID SAY IT!!!! I know - a crazy notion isn't it? I try not to spend too much time on there as it is hard to stop tweeting when you start a 'session.'”
“Hola!! Just wanted to bring my thoughts over from next door for anyone who may give a rip
But my view (for what it is worth) on the 'TO TWEET OR NOT TO TWEET?' John debate: I firmly believe that everybody has the right to use their own twitter accounts for whatever purposes, to tweet whatever opinions, give whatever information about their life as little or as often as they please. Yes, it is sad that we don't get to hear from him as much now (not that he was the most religious tweeter even when he lived in the UK .. he'd go weeks without tweeting then too but then come back with a BANG and tweet heaps!) but we must respect that. It is up to him!! Of course I'd like him to tweet more (I won't pretend that I wouldn't like that) but I don't think it is fair of his followers to pester him or try to guilt him into tweeting.
(I don't mean that nobody should tweet him .. tweet him as much as you like - maybe you'll persuade him to come out and play?) Let him come to us on twitter when he feels ready or when he has something to say. And should the day come when he decides to delete his account .. we'll just have to deal with that because it is his life after all - to live it the way he sees fit. The way that makes him happy.
I agree with Ali and Heidi's posts on the subject. I just don't think he knows WHAT the hell to say now .. that he hasn't already. He's smart - he knows that aaaaanything he does tweet will be jumped on, reading between the lines will happen, some will ASSUME it relates to Josie or the way he feels about her in some way (whether that be positively or negatively) there will be a million different interpretations flying around - most of which will be WAY off the mark .. look at what happens when he just 's at us for goodness sake!! I can't blame him for taking a twitter back seat (for however long he wishes to do so) .. he must wonder if it's really worth the hassle.
He doesn't owe us one little thing - we're not entitled to a travelogue of all the activities of his day (he's not living his life on a twitter 24/7 live feed like the BB days - although I'd like to have a little glimpse and see how he IS and what he's doing back home) I like to think that it is like Kay says and that he is ENJOYING himself - this is what I'm choosing to believe anyway (I wouldn't like to think of him being miserable in life) Plus, isn't there more to life than TWITTER and other social networking sites????? *Gasps* YES, SHE DID SAY IT!!!!
I know - a crazy notion isn't it? I try not to spend too much time on there as it is hard to stop tweeting when you start a 'session.'”
I completely agree....we were lucky last summer to have John as a housemate to watch...now he has left he needs and deserves a private life.....
Originally Posted by AlexBB3:
“Certainly Shabby fans at the time were convinced that BB were unfairly picking on Shabby by depriving her of her grandad's precious hat, whereas most FMs just saw it as a ridiculous strop about nothing. The perceived unfairness then was that Corin only had to give up one of her many makeup pencils, whereas Shabby was required to give up her one and only hat.
I've got a vague recollection that she hadn't told BB about it and some think that's what she divulged to Keeva during their mics off convo the night before she walked out. Afterwards, I think she implied she'd overestimated her ability to cope without the meds (not sure how long before entering the house she'd started to come off them). Wonder whether Cheeky will be able to pick up any of the mics off convo when she reaches day 26!”
“Certainly Shabby fans at the time were convinced that BB were unfairly picking on Shabby by depriving her of her grandad's precious hat, whereas most FMs just saw it as a ridiculous strop about nothing. The perceived unfairness then was that Corin only had to give up one of her many makeup pencils, whereas Shabby was required to give up her one and only hat.
I've got a vague recollection that she hadn't told BB about it and some think that's what she divulged to Keeva during their mics off convo the night before she walked out. Afterwards, I think she implied she'd overestimated her ability to cope without the meds (not sure how long before entering the house she'd started to come off them). Wonder whether Cheeky will be able to pick up any of the mics off convo when she reaches day 26!
”
I really liked Shabby, and at the risk of going completely off topic, she was the one reason I became hooked to the live feed during BB11, I was glued to watching the events unfold on the day she left. Would she or wouldnt she leave....?.....
The producers tried so hard to keep her in the house.....
and what was so ironic was that although the producers were trying the best to keep her in there, the original drama was largely created by Keeva, and yet Shabby walked and Keeva stayed,
and even more interesting was that it was subsequently shown that it was the arguement ,( that was muted on live feed,) with Nathan that was the final straw for Shabby.....
I could be wrong, but I got the impression that both Nathan and Keeva made themselves unpopular with the producers because of Shabby walking out....
Originally Posted by muggins14:
“Yes she said she was applying for mag jobs, was going to grow up”
“Yes she said she was applying for mag jobs, was going to grow up
”
im glad....wasnt she living in a squat before BB and living off the food supermarkets were throwing out?
Originally Posted by AlexBB3:
“But this illustrates exactly the problem I outlined. You've made a subjective judgement that the Corin/Sam wig-gate episode was worse than my examples 1-10. I wouldn't agree with that analysis, example 1 was the worst example of house bullying imo. You think Corin became "genuinely upset", whereas I think Keeva became "genuinely upset". And the fact that Keeva felt she had to walk out a day later, whereas Corin didn't, suggests my psychological analysis may be the more correct one. .
So let's say Corin has an insecurity about her wigs/makeup, John has an insecurity about being called crabeyes and Josie has an insecurity about everything (according to her fans). Which insecurities do you want BB to protect, to avoid cruelty to HMs. After all John had to put up with crabeye taunts at various points over many weeks - was that cruel, or should he just man-up on a gameshow?
I might be able to buy into your approach if I thought there was some way of avoiding it spiralling into a victim's charter. In particular, I'd hate to introduce an incentive for those who whine (DQs and complainers) rather than those who just get on with things. In the context of this discussion, it's worth saying though that I don't think either Keeva or Corin are in the former category - so in that case it boils down to whether a line was crossed whereby they needed protection.
Of course there must always be boundaries and clear cut bullying yes, HMs are entitled to be protected . . . but let's remember that FMs are complaining every few minutes on this forum that someone or other is being bullied so BB have a very subjective call to make most of the time. I just think that regardless where we draw those boundaries, FMs will always have very different views about when they've been crossed - as you and I have just demonstrated in our respective "sympathies" for Corin and Keeva.”
“But this illustrates exactly the problem I outlined. You've made a subjective judgement that the Corin/Sam wig-gate episode was worse than my examples 1-10. I wouldn't agree with that analysis, example 1 was the worst example of house bullying imo. You think Corin became "genuinely upset", whereas I think Keeva became "genuinely upset". And the fact that Keeva felt she had to walk out a day later, whereas Corin didn't, suggests my psychological analysis may be the more correct one. .
So let's say Corin has an insecurity about her wigs/makeup, John has an insecurity about being called crabeyes and Josie has an insecurity about everything (according to her fans). Which insecurities do you want BB to protect, to avoid cruelty to HMs. After all John had to put up with crabeye taunts at various points over many weeks - was that cruel, or should he just man-up on a gameshow?
I might be able to buy into your approach if I thought there was some way of avoiding it spiralling into a victim's charter. In particular, I'd hate to introduce an incentive for those who whine (DQs and complainers) rather than those who just get on with things. In the context of this discussion, it's worth saying though that I don't think either Keeva or Corin are in the former category - so in that case it boils down to whether a line was crossed whereby they needed protection.
Of course there must always be boundaries and clear cut bullying yes, HMs are entitled to be protected . . . but let's remember that FMs are complaining every few minutes on this forum that someone or other is being bullied so BB have a very subjective call to make most of the time. I just think that regardless where we draw those boundaries, FMs will always have very different views about when they've been crossed - as you and I have just demonstrated in our respective "sympathies" for Corin and Keeva.”
I agree that it is difficult to know when a line has been crossed..... and that BB do have to make a subjective call most of the time..... but that doesnt mean that they shouldnt try and be seen to try!!!
To bring this back on topic we were intitially discussing whether or not John was treated unfairly by BB producers in the last couple of weeks.
I still think he was, and I think BB were very lucky, in terms of their viewing figures, that he didnt choose to walk out in the last week....
He did seem to me to be very close to it on quite a few occasions!!I would also agree with you that Keeva was unfairly treated by the producers of BB, especially after Shabby left, and that she handled it well without complaint.
I got the distinct feeling that most of the producers thought the wrong Hm had walked out, so they then gave Keeva an unpopular edit...and lined her up for eviction the following week. Even manipulating it to have only 2 housemates up, and putting on a save and replace task where John, with previous horseriding experience and being much stronger and bigger, was bound to win....
And then John threw the task!!! so all their lovely plans were spoilt.....
And in that particular case, when Keeva did eventually walk, I did wonder whether her positive treatment by BB, allowing her to have a winners week even though she had actually walked, was to try and make up for the fact they p hadnt been that fair to her? Or maybe I am just way too imaginative.......
Originally Posted by annemarie1066:
“As ever a great post Cheeky and I agree with it all. I thought the tweets to him about not contacting his fans cos of recent events were bizarre. We didn't have a Tsunami or earthquake or other natural disaster just bunches of out of control kids running amok, what was he supposed to say”
“As ever a great post Cheeky and I agree with it all. I thought the tweets to him about not contacting his fans cos of recent events were bizarre. We didn't have a Tsunami or earthquake or other natural disaster just bunches of out of control kids running amok, what was he supposed to say”
Thanks Annemarie
Originally Posted by bblover:
“Thanks Cheeky,and i have to say i do agree with you,i have no idea why there is such a big fuss about it,by those who don't like him,why do they want him to tweet?Why do they care?”
“Thanks Cheeky,and i have to say i do agree with you,i have no idea why there is such a big fuss about it,by those who don't like him,why do they want him to tweet?Why do they care?”
Thought you'd agree Buble Basher :P Who can say? Who can say?
Originally Posted by AlexBB3:
“BIB 1 - much as I'm a believer in freedom of speech, wouldn't you want to qualify that statement at all?
BIB 2 - that's possible, but there are several other possibilities - one being that he's maintaining strategic silence for the moment (eg, pending an eventual comeback). I'd suggest what folks believe on the no tweeting front may be tied to what they think about whether he's gone back to Oz for good.
I do agree generally with what you say, particularly BIB 3.
Finally, just to say that I'm extremely disappointed not to have heard from John James Parton in relation to the Libyan crisis . . . . when you go home tonight, perhaps you can ask him to get his act together soonest.”
“BIB 1 - much as I'm a believer in freedom of speech, wouldn't you want to qualify that statement at all?
BIB 2 - that's possible, but there are several other possibilities - one being that he's maintaining strategic silence for the moment (eg, pending an eventual comeback). I'd suggest what folks believe on the no tweeting front may be tied to what they think about whether he's gone back to Oz for good.
I do agree generally with what you say, particularly BIB 3.
Finally, just to say that I'm extremely disappointed not to have heard from John James Parton in relation to the Libyan crisis . . . . when you go home tonight, perhaps you can ask him to get his act together soonest.
”
I'm being a bit dim, Alex I don't understand what you mean with your comment about BIB1! You'll have to dumb it down for me, Mr! I'm no intellectual as much as I may try to pass myself off as one
... and miserably fail!hAAAAAAAA!! Aren't we all, Alex?
Errmmm.. nah! How did you know I wasn't at home??? I'll have you all know John James has been good as gold all week - he's even made me lose my marbles in a marble contest (he's the champppppppppp ... he made me write that!) we played boomerang in the park and he's whipping up banana MUFFINS in the kitchen!!! But I'll pass on your message all the same.
Originally Posted by AlexBB3:
“
I've got a vague recollection that she hadn't told BB about it and some think that's what she divulged to Keeva during their mics off convo the night before she walked out. Afterwards, I think she implied she'd overestimated her ability to cope without the meds (not sure how long before entering the house she'd started to come off them). Wonder whether Cheeky will be able to pick up any of the mics off convo when she reaches day 26!”
“
I've got a vague recollection that she hadn't told BB about it and some think that's what she divulged to Keeva during their mics off convo the night before she walked out. Afterwards, I think she implied she'd overestimated her ability to cope without the meds (not sure how long before entering the house she'd started to come off them). Wonder whether Cheeky will be able to pick up any of the mics off convo when she reaches day 26!
”
I'll have a looksy out for it when I eveeeeeentually reach that date.
Originally Posted by muggins14:
“Cheeky is only going off h/l's I think, as we were discussing that over the way an hour or so ago”
“Cheeky is only going off h/l's I think, as we were discussing that over the way an hour or so ago”
I am doing HL's, afternoon live feed from E4 and evening live feed from E4 ... and after I have completed that I will move on to random bits and bobs from the live feed DM clips that I haven't already done. It takes ages though so I only do it as and when I can.
Originally Posted by Deeferone:
“
Lovely post and agree - just miss him tweeting really - bit selfish I know - but got used to him - liked him - would like to see more of him
”
“
Lovely post and agree - just miss him tweeting really - bit selfish I know - but got used to him - liked him - would like to see more of him
”
So do I
He's very missable, isn't he?
Originally Posted by augusta92:
“I completely agree....we were lucky last summer to have John as a housemate to watch...now he has left he needs and deserves a private life.....”
“I completely agree....we were lucky last summer to have John as a housemate to watch...now he has left he needs and deserves a private life.....
”
And this is why I think quite a lot of his followers struggle now .. because they were so used to seeing practically his every move 24/7 for almost 3 months .. and we were spoilt from his tweets and seeing him in mags for so long .. that some expect toooooooo much and feel like they deserve to have that same level of communication from him as before. But circumstances are now entirely different - you'd hope that people would recognise and appreciate that.
Anyway off to visit the JJJAT now
Will try and chat again soon!
Originally Posted by muggins14:
“Stop bullying Augusta
I have to say I agree with you, and especially once you see the list you made above, bring it home how often there were times of 'unfairness' within the house that may have been forgotten or mis-remembered, even swept under the carpet.”
“Stop bullying Augusta
I have to say I agree with you, and especially once you see the list you made above, bring it home how often there were times of 'unfairness' within the house that may have been forgotten or mis-remembered, even swept under the carpet.”
Ali..Thank you for defending me!!! And Alex thank you for the discussion....
it reminded me that.this whole thread thing is absolutely unbelievable
I have changed so much from a year ago.....all I did last summer was lurk and sometimes interject something as part of the JJJAt WHATM thread!
Now im actually talking to people properly!!!
and taking the time to talk to people and to try and explain what I mean. And having proper discussions. And even starting to try and be funny.
With a brand new BB, and the demise of anything new to say, I will have to transfer my new skills onto other more useful things!!!
And to bring it full circle....of all the people on DS, I think Alex was one of the first people I actually spoke to when we were both on the court thread.... and then I can remember saying things and just running away.......
So massive appologies for my cowardice last autumn....
Originally Posted by AlexBB3:
“Next instalment of our JJJ love story, for the craic. For Head Honcho, think Kelvin Mackenzie! All credits to Mood Indigo.
Mood Indigo, pt II: http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...44&postcount=4
Episode 2 CRISIS MEETING AT OK HQ
Head Honcho: What the fook has been going on…..$*&#!!!! This deal is falling apart at the seams, my fookin’ job is on the line here you daft bint. Have you seen the forums….those mutha f**kers on Digital Spy are taking the mother f**king p*ss big time …..just have to mention the name John James and Josie and that f**king place is awash with “LMAO”….”PMSL”….”LOL”.
OK Journo: Well there’s always the JJJ Appreciation Threads….
Head Honcho: Is that suppose to make me feel any f**king better.
OK Journo (trembling) well the thing is, JJ can be a tad…..volatile,he gits annnggreey and Josie is trying her best, keeping him on the medication but you know how it is, sometimes she gets the doses wrong and oops, he opens his mouth…..
Head Honcho:…..and sh*te comes pouring out. &*@# you better keep that &#^%(#^ tool in check or this whole deal’s going to go tits up and we’ll all be up sh*t creek without a paddle with our dicks hanging out.
OK Journo: Ooooohhh.
Head Honcho: And what about this Josie woman, can she be trusted!! Isn’t she supposed to be an actress?
OK Journo: Oh yes, did you know she was second understudy to Banquo’s ghost in Trevor Nunn’s production of Macbeth.
Head Honcho: (Face like Thunder)
OK Journo: Anyhow….yes she came with impeccable credentials…..
Head Honcho: Well she’s doing a sh*te job at convincing those mugs who watch this bollox that they’re a real f**kin’ couple……she can’t even get the scruffy looking Herbert to f**king kiss her properly….WTF is that all about….and what’s with the clobber, both of them look like a f**king mess. I wanted the new Preston and Chantelle, Peter and Katie, Cheryl and some blond geyser from America, and what do I f**kin’ get……Susan Boyle, before the make over and an Aussie Albert f**in’ Steptoe. Couldn’t we get any other HM…..what about that bleedin’ Sunshine bird.
OK Journo: She’s actually a medical student.
Head Honcho: And Rachael, who from the right angle, in a dimly lit room, sort of looked a bit like Beyonce on a bad day?
OK Journo: She’s actually a beautician.
Head Honcho: And Sinead?
OK Journo: Eh?
Head Honcho: You know, flashed her knockers….Bridie something?
OK Journo:Who?
Head Honcho: Oh FFS you know… Irish bird ……Siobhan.
OK Journo: You mean Keeva?
Head Honcho: Yeah whatever.
OK Journo: She actually has a brain.
Head Honcho: Well Shabby ain’t she an actual actress.
OK Journo: Yes, but she couldn’t actually stomach the thought of John James up close and personal.
But I have been trying to hook up Triple J with other celebs.
Head Honcho: Go on, tell me more
OK Journo: Yes I asked the Vatican, whether his holiness, Pope Benny, would fancy doing a few PAs with JJJ while he’s over here….I was thinking Billericay’s finest night spot, “Cinderall Rockafella”…. unfortunately they declined, something about the Catholic Church having enough problems already being associated with unsavoury characters who are publicly reviled….The Sacred College of Cardinals felt that JJJ may tarnish their image.
Head Honcho: Anyone else?
OK Journo: Well I’ve been in talks with the Cat Bin Lady, I mean she could do with some good PR so I asked her whether she fancied being in a joint article with Triple J…..but she declined…mumbled something about being able to handle the death threats ,personal vitriol and bile being hurled at her in the street by strangers, dog sh*t posted through her letterbox, being shunned by friends, family and wider society, but felt any association with JJJ would be a step too far and really tarnish her image.
Head Honcho: F**king hell, mutha f**kin’ shoot me now.
NEXT EPISODE
World exclusive photoshoot.
Amazing shots of JJJ, as you’ve never seen them before. Join love’s young dream as they are photographed by roly poly, larger than life celebrity snapper and man about town, Bunny Ponsonby-Dickson (Fat “Ponse” to his showbiz pals).
Josie looking even more stunning than ever before, yes Josie red and fake tan ARE your colours and John James once again shows those delicious, slender pins of his for all you JJJ lovers.”
“Next instalment of our JJJ love story, for the craic. For Head Honcho, think Kelvin Mackenzie! All credits to Mood Indigo.
Mood Indigo, pt II: http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...44&postcount=4
Episode 2 CRISIS MEETING AT OK HQ
Head Honcho: What the fook has been going on…..$*&#!!!! This deal is falling apart at the seams, my fookin’ job is on the line here you daft bint. Have you seen the forums….those mutha f**kers on Digital Spy are taking the mother f**king p*ss big time
…..just have to mention the name John James and Josie and that f**king place is awash with “LMAO”….”PMSL”….”LOL”.OK Journo: Well there’s always the JJJ Appreciation Threads….
Head Honcho: Is that suppose to make me feel any f**king better.
OK Journo (trembling)
well the thing is, JJ can be a tad…..volatile,he gits annnggreey and Josie is trying her best, keeping him on the medication but you know how it is, sometimes she gets the doses wrong and oops, he opens his mouth…..Head Honcho:…..and sh*te comes pouring out. &*@# you better keep that &#^%(#^ tool in check or this whole deal’s going to go tits up and we’ll all be up sh*t creek without a paddle with our dicks hanging out.
OK Journo: Ooooohhh.
Head Honcho: And what about this Josie woman, can she be trusted!! Isn’t she supposed to be an actress?
OK Journo: Oh yes, did you know she was second understudy to Banquo’s ghost in Trevor Nunn’s production of Macbeth.
Head Honcho: (Face like Thunder)
OK Journo: Anyhow….yes she came with impeccable credentials…..
Head Honcho: Well she’s doing a sh*te job at convincing those mugs who watch this bollox that they’re a real f**kin’ couple……she can’t even get the scruffy looking Herbert to f**king kiss her properly….WTF is that all about….and what’s with the clobber, both of them look like a f**king mess. I wanted the new Preston and Chantelle, Peter and Katie, Cheryl and some blond geyser from America, and what do I f**kin’ get……Susan Boyle, before the make over and an Aussie Albert f**in’ Steptoe. Couldn’t we get any other HM…..what about that bleedin’ Sunshine bird.
OK Journo: She’s actually a medical student.
Head Honcho: And Rachael, who from the right angle, in a dimly lit room, sort of looked a bit like Beyonce on a bad day?
OK Journo: She’s actually a beautician.
Head Honcho: And Sinead?
OK Journo: Eh?
Head Honcho: You know, flashed her knockers….Bridie something?
OK Journo:Who?
Head Honcho: Oh FFS you know… Irish bird ……Siobhan.
OK Journo: You mean Keeva?
Head Honcho: Yeah whatever.
OK Journo: She actually has a brain.
Head Honcho: Well Shabby ain’t she an actual actress.
OK Journo: Yes, but she couldn’t actually stomach the thought of John James up close and personal.
But I have been trying to hook up Triple J with other celebs.
Head Honcho: Go on, tell me more
OK Journo: Yes I asked the Vatican, whether his holiness, Pope Benny, would fancy doing a few PAs with JJJ while he’s over here….I was thinking Billericay’s finest night spot, “Cinderall Rockafella”…. unfortunately they declined, something about the Catholic Church having enough problems already being associated with unsavoury characters who are publicly reviled….The Sacred College of Cardinals felt that JJJ may tarnish their image.
Head Honcho: Anyone else?
OK Journo: Well I’ve been in talks with the Cat Bin Lady, I mean she could do with some good PR so I asked her whether she fancied being in a joint article with Triple J…..but she declined…mumbled something about being able to handle the death threats ,personal vitriol and bile being hurled at her in the street by strangers, dog sh*t posted through her letterbox, being shunned by friends, family and wider society, but felt any association with JJJ would be a step too far and really tarnish her image.
Head Honcho: F**king hell, mutha f**kin’ shoot me now.
NEXT EPISODE
World exclusive photoshoot.
Amazing shots of JJJ, as you’ve never seen them before. Join love’s young dream as they are photographed by roly poly, larger than life celebrity snapper and man about town, Bunny Ponsonby-Dickson (Fat “Ponse” to his showbiz pals).
Josie looking even more stunning than ever before, yes Josie red and fake tan ARE your colours and John James once again shows those delicious, slender pins of his for all you JJJ lovers.”
This is so funny
I wish it had gone on longer!!!
If we are going to meet up next week, how are we going to identify each other?
I was saying to nyannie, should we all wear a flower in our hair or as a buttonhole, so we all know who we are?
Or can we work out some kind of secret mark...like the baddies in Harry Potter?
I was saying to nyannie, should we all wear a flower in our hair or as a buttonhole, so we all know who we are?
Or can we work out some kind of secret mark...like the baddies in Harry Potter?
Originally Posted by Lena J:
“Don't know if you're all aware, but MLDenim launch their new range on-line in the UK at the end of the month. Mozez, John's friend seems very excited about it, and has been posting little teasers of the new range on twitter.
Don't suppose there's any chance that a certain young Aussie gentleman might be the 'face' for the launch over here?
Don't want to get you excited but I have seen the 'made in australia' labels and braces being fitted to jeans.
He did look rather lovely in those jeans with the braces on.”
“Don't know if you're all aware, but MLDenim launch their new range on-line in the UK at the end of the month. Mozez, John's friend seems very excited about it, and has been posting little teasers of the new range on twitter.
Don't suppose there's any chance that a certain young Aussie gentleman might be the 'face' for the launch over here?
Don't want to get you excited but I have seen the 'made in australia' labels and braces being fitted to jeans.
He did look rather lovely in those jeans with the braces on.
”
Thanks for this Lena - I'm excited!! Surely John would be the obvious choice to model for the UK market - I'd be very surprised if he hadn't been asked to do it! Wouldn't it be a great way for him to re-establish his links with the UK:
Originally Posted by augusta92:
“If we are going to meet up next week, how are we going to identify each other?
I was saying to nyannie, should we all wear a flower in our hair or as a buttonhole, so we all know who we are?
Or can we work out some kind of secret mark...like the baddies in Harry Potter?”
“If we are going to meet up next week, how are we going to identify each other?
I was saying to nyannie, should we all wear a flower in our hair or as a buttonhole, so we all know who we are?
Or can we work out some kind of secret mark...like the baddies in Harry Potter?”
I am a natural blonde - 5ft 7 tall - size 36-24-36 dress size 10 - have a striking resemblence to Angelina Jolie - around 40ish but actually been told many times I look in my 20's.
P.S and quite delusional
Originally Posted by augusta92:
“I really liked Shabby, and at the risk of going completely off topic, she was the one reason I became hooked to the live feed during BB11, I was glued to watching the events unfold on the day she left. Would she or wouldnt she leave....?.....
and even more interesting was that it was subsequently shown that it was the arguement ,( that was muted on live feed,) with Nathan that was the final straw for Shabby.....”
“I really liked Shabby, and at the risk of going completely off topic, she was the one reason I became hooked to the live feed during BB11, I was glued to watching the events unfold on the day she left. Would she or wouldnt she leave....?.....
and even more interesting was that it was subsequently shown that it was the arguement ,( that was muted on live feed,) with Nathan that was the final straw for Shabby.....”
Oh I think that happened quite a long time ago, no fault of yours!
Can be funny how things change. After the show, Shabby tweeted that Nathan is now her favourite HM!
Originally Posted by augusta92:
“Ali..Thank you for defending me!!! And Alex thank you for the discussion....
it reminded me that.this whole thread thing is absolutely unbelievable
I have changed so much from a year ago.....all I did last summer was lurk and sometimes interject something as part of the JJJAt WHATM thread!Now im actually talking to people properly!!!
and taking the time to talk to people and to try and explain what I mean. And having proper discussions. And even starting to try and be funny.
With a brand new BB, and the demise of anything new to say, I will have to transfer my new skills onto other more useful things!!!
And to bring it full circle....of all the people on DS, I think Alex was one of the first people I actually spoke to when we were both on the court thread.... and then I can remember saying things and just running away....... So massive appologies for my cowardice last autumn....”
“Ali..Thank you for defending me!!! And Alex thank you for the discussion....
it reminded me that.this whole thread thing is absolutely unbelievable
I have changed so much from a year ago.....all I did last summer was lurk and sometimes interject something as part of the JJJAt WHATM thread!Now im actually talking to people properly!!!
and taking the time to talk to people and to try and explain what I mean. And having proper discussions. And even starting to try and be funny.
With a brand new BB, and the demise of anything new to say, I will have to transfer my new skills onto other more useful things!!!
And to bring it full circle....of all the people on DS, I think Alex was one of the first people I actually spoke to when we were both on the court thread.... and then I can remember saying things and just running away.......
So massive appologies for my cowardice last autumn....”
Must say I find that hard to believe!! You seem quite comfortable arguing for your POV whilst acknowledging different viewpoints. It's great that you're willing to champion minority viewpoints as well, and not just go with the majority flow, which adds something to any thread. On the court thread, you were one of the few JJJers who used to visit that thread occasionally and just make calm rational points without getting over-defensive or phased by the more polemic posters, or resorting to sarcy digs like someone else we might recall.
Originally Posted by Deeferone:
“I am a natural blonde - 5ft 7 tall - size 36-24-36 dress size 10 - have a striking resemblence to Angelina Jolie - around 40ish but actually been told many times I look in my 20's.
P.S and quite delusional”
“I am a natural blonde - 5ft 7 tall - size 36-24-36 dress size 10 - have a striking resemblence to Angelina Jolie - around 40ish but actually been told many times I look in my 20's.
P.S and quite delusional
”
you sound beautiful......now how can I describe myself....
actually apart from wishing I was much much thinner, ive never really been too worried about how I look.
in my early 20s I was told I looked like a cross between Madonna and Edwina Curry....but now id look like Madonnas much older sister!!!
its just disconcerting that I have one of those faces that people always seem to recognise or comment on. People often come up to me and say...dont I know you from somewhere....and ive never met them before .....
But that still doesnt solve the problem of how we are going to identify each other....
maybe a secret signal.....or a funny walk and hop combination.....that only we will recognise?
Or I could get my rainbow scarf out of the cupboard, thats fairly distinctive and noticable?
Originally Posted by augusta92:
“you sound beautiful......now how can I describe myself....
actually apart from wishing I was much much thinner, ive never really been too worried about how I look.
in my early 20s I was told I looked like a cross between Madonna and Edwina Curry....but now id look like Madonnas much older sister!!!
its just disconcerting that I have one of those faces that people always seem to recognise or comment on. People often come up to me and say...dont I know you from somewhere....and ive never met them before .....
But that still doesnt solve the problem of how we are going to identify each other....
maybe a secret signal.....or a funny walk and hop combination.....that only we will recognise?
Or I could get my rainbow scarf out of the cupboard, thats fairly distinctive and noticable?”
“you sound beautiful......now how can I describe myself....
actually apart from wishing I was much much thinner, ive never really been too worried about how I look.
in my early 20s I was told I looked like a cross between Madonna and Edwina Curry....but now id look like Madonnas much older sister!!!
its just disconcerting that I have one of those faces that people always seem to recognise or comment on. People often come up to me and say...dont I know you from somewhere....and ive never met them before .....
But that still doesnt solve the problem of how we are going to identify each other....
maybe a secret signal.....or a funny walk and hop combination.....that only we will recognise?
Or I could get my rainbow scarf out of the cupboard, thats fairly distinctive and noticable?”
You coukd always wear a beanie! Hope you have a good time
Originally Posted by jjjfinny:
“You coukd always wear a beanie! Hope you have a good time”
“You coukd always wear a beanie! Hope you have a good time
”
Hey Finny, kudos for your tweet:
@uk_JohnJames_oz hi r u coming over for jjs fight? Ur mum wld like the jjat y not get her t join? Good bunch of people and fun! 5 hours ago
I dont really know why but i think there has been a little change.
Josie in her ok answers to the questions seemed a bit different. Some messages there for John.
She tweets a picture showing she still has his bmx.
She agrees to her mate tweeting about the calendars.
She is photographed wearing the watch John bought her.
Thoughts
Is she finally not bothered and the hate is going?
Are they on speaking terms of sorts?
Does bb want to use John and asked josie to smooth things out?
Who knows but there does seem to be something.
Maybe i'm just over tierd and need a sleep
Josie in her ok answers to the questions seemed a bit different. Some messages there for John.
She tweets a picture showing she still has his bmx.
She agrees to her mate tweeting about the calendars.
She is photographed wearing the watch John bought her.
Thoughts
Is she finally not bothered and the hate is going?
Are they on speaking terms of sorts?
Does bb want to use John and asked josie to smooth things out?
Who knows but there does seem to be something.
Maybe i'm just over tierd and need a sleep
Originally Posted by AlexBB3:
“Hey Finny, kudos for your tweet:
@uk_JohnJames_oz hi r u coming over for jjs fight? Ur mum wld like the jjat y not get her t join? Good bunch of people and fun! 5 hours ago”
“Hey Finny, kudos for your tweet:
@uk_JohnJames_oz hi r u coming over for jjs fight? Ur mum wld like the jjat y not get her t join? Good bunch of people and fun! 5 hours ago”
God loves a tryer!
Originally Posted by Deeferone:
“I am a natural blonde - 5ft 7 tall - size 36-24-36 dress size 10 - have a striking resemblence to Angelina Jolie - around 40ish but actually been told many times I look in my 20's.
P.S and quite delusional”
“I am a natural blonde - 5ft 7 tall - size 36-24-36 dress size 10 - have a striking resemblence to Angelina Jolie - around 40ish but actually been told many times I look in my 20's.
P.S and quite delusional
”
Didn't you used to be a page 3 model - according to your DS profile???
Originally Posted by jjjfinny:
“God loves a tryer!”
“God loves a tryer!
”
Ah but how do you know she's not already posting here??? We have someone with the right name!!!
Think i might be getting things confused but didnt John say before he went back that he had to go back by a certain month anyway eg August? Do you think this was to do a shoot for MLDenim for their internet launch?
Originally Posted by AlexBB3:
“Ah but how do you know she's not already posting here??? We have someone with the right name!!!”
“Ah but how do you know she's not already posting here??? We have someone with the right name!!!
”
Well if she is she's not giving much away come on mrs P!
Originally Posted by CheekySAUCISSON:
“I'm being a bit dim, Alex I don't understand what you mean with your comment about BIB1! You'll have to dumb it down for me, Mr! I'm no intellectual as much as I may try to pass myself off as one ... and miserably fail!”
“I'm being a bit dim, Alex I don't understand what you mean with your comment about BIB1! You'll have to dumb it down for me, Mr! I'm no intellectual as much as I may try to pass myself off as one
... and miserably fail!”
Sorry, peeps often say my posts can be cryptic.
Clearly this one was too! I understand why folks often assert they have the right to say anything they want on their twitter account . . . . and to an extent that's true. I'm certainly glad that we err on the side of freedom of speech. But consider a few examples to test whether there s/be some (self-regulatory) limits as well:
1. Let's say Hitler joined twitter and started tweeting Aryan hate at well-known Jewish figures. Would you still support his right to do that on his own twitter a/c? OK, perhaps you don't have to worry about that one because it's probably illegal so the police would hopefully come and shut him down.
2. But now let's say former JJJ fan X starts tweeting the most "hateful/vile" messages to John (or Josie). Not illegal, probably not regulated by twitter, how do you react to that person? Do you continue to be "friends" with them? Do you condemn what they're doing - either naming them personally or just tweeting your own view that they're wrong to do it? Or do you just disregard it and take the view that it's their right to do what they want on their own twitter a/c?
3. Or if instead of tweeting John (or Josie), X is just tweeting his/her other followers with so-called "hateful/vile" views about John (or Josie). Is that perhaps more acceptable - even though you wouldn't personally do it yourself.
4. Now consider where a DS poster comes to debate on a thread (civilly within T&C) and then immediately goes off to their twitter a/c and calls a DS poster with whom they were discussing an "idiot". An actual recent example btw. Is that ok?
I'm not saying there's a right/wrong answer to any of the above, just that there must be circumstances when you say well yes this person has the right to tweet whatever they want from their own account . . . . BUT balanced by some sort of "reasonable" person obligation to society as a whole not to be excessively "hateful" perhaps?. Of course, that gets you into a whole subjective area as to what is and isn't hateful. We've seen just within the DSBB universe how different FMs have profoundly different views about what is and isn't acceptable in that regard - just compare the very different style of postings on each of JAT, JJAT, JJJAT and MF!!
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