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The Ratings Thread (Part 23)
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sheepiefarm
28-08-2011
Are there any ratings for Friday's soaps yet?
garyessex
28-08-2011
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“BBC viewers are more likely to go on holiday. Same way they are more likely to go out on Fridays so EE loses viewers but Corrie does not.

You think i'm joking....?”

That awkward moment when Robbie doesn't realise most people watch both BBC and ITV programmes...
rzt
28-08-2011
Originally Posted by sheepiefarm:
“Are there any ratings for Friday's soaps yet?”

DS hasn't updated with the ratings yet, but here's Friday's primetime soap overnights:

19:00- Emmerdale: 6.47m (34.2%) , +1: 110k
19:30- Coronation Street: 7.50m (36.8%) , +1: 87k
20:00- EastEnders: 8.06m (36.5%)
20:30- Coronation Street: 7.49m (32.9%) , +1: 166k

Ratings include HD and are full-slot averages

When DS get round to it, they might report slightly different figures because their ratings are tape-checked.
mr_scotty2hotty
28-08-2011
BB usually always drops on a saturday because its core audience are out on the razz.....
Dancc
28-08-2011
Originally Posted by mr_scotty2hotty:
“BB usually always drops on a saturday because its core audience are out on the razz.....”

Indeed. It is a bank holiday weekend after all. It's only worrying if it becomes a trend IMO. Good retention for TXF compared to previous years.
Puterkid
28-08-2011
I think Will did well given the competition, and single artist specials are going to attract the astist's fanbase, but rely on many casual viewers tuning in to build up good ratings. He did well on the +1, it's also got two repeats later in the week on ITV 2.
soupnazi
28-08-2011
Originally Posted by garyessex:
“That awkward moment when Robbie doesn't realise most people watch both BBC and ITV programmes...”

In Robbie's world 'BBC viewers' are too busy having supper on their holidays in Tuscany to watch. 'ITV viewers' sit in squalid council slums and eat their own children.
sheepiefarm
28-08-2011
Thanks for those ratings rzt
Roscoe Barnes
28-08-2011
Originally Posted by rzt:
“Saturday 27th August Overnights
BBC One
19:10- Doctor Who: 6.2m (28.7%)


ITV1 (inc +1)
19:00- All Star Family Fortunes: 5.4m (24.6%)
* exc. +1: 5.3m
20:00- The X Factor: 10.6m (42.8%)
* 5-min peak: 12.0m
* exc. +1: 10.1m


Ratings include HD and are full-slot averages; ITV1 shares do not include +1.”

Excellent retention for TXF. I expected it to be just below 10m with +1 excluded. Last year the episode average 9.8m for the whole slot so it's just 0.3m or 0.8 with +1 included. Can't really argue with those figures. Could TXF actually rise again after everyone (including myself) predicted it would definitely decline this year?

DW made a solid return, but I thought the best slot for the series so far would have brought in more viewers than that. FF held up remarkably well considering. But as other posters have said, DW timeshfits extremely well.

Originally Posted by rzt:
“DS hasn't updated with the ratings yet, but here's Friday's primetime soap overnights:

19:00- Emmerdale: 6.47m (34.2%) , +1: 110k
19:30- Coronation Street: 7.50m (36.8%) , +1: 87k
20:00- EastEnders: 8.06m (36.5%)
20:30- Coronation Street: 7.49m (32.9%) , +1: 166k

Ratings include HD and are full-slot averages

When DS get round to it, they might report slightly different figures because their ratings are tape-checked.”

Thanks for these rzt. All the soaps have been pretty static this week. EE has had a good week, ending with its highest rating of the week. Corrie's second episode will be close to 8m tape-checked.

Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“BBC viewers are more likely to go on holiday. Same way they are more likely to go out on Fridays so EE loses viewers but Corrie does not.

You think i'm joking....?”

I do hope this is a joke because that has to be one of the worst defences I've ever heard for the BBC's under-par performance with the return of DW (and just incase you're wondering I do watch DW and thoroughly enjoyed last nights episode. I also watch the TXF - wow, who'd have thought it...someone who watches both channels...)
Agent F
28-08-2011
Originally Posted by soupnazi:
“In Robbie's world 'BBC viewers' are too busy having supper on their holidays in Tuscany to watch. 'ITV viewers' sit in squalid council slums and eat their own children.”

Chris1964
28-08-2011
With the return of the X Factor I guess the BBC will be fairly pleased to have a fifth of the primetime audience and Secret Fortune reasonably solid in the face of the biggest drawing show of the week.
Good for Dr Who I guess on its return, though im not sure having a three month cliff hanger is the best idea. Certainly if you had made the decision to join the series last night it might have been a bit confusing and the fate of Hitler must be unique in media history I should imagine.
As for X Factor, it bodes well for the future. It seems as though being a part of the endlessness of it is a must now for many millions and getting in early is almost as important as being there at the end.(edit-little change in the middle either )
Personally i found the documentary on Hans Litten, along with the earlier drama the best viewing this week.
mlt11
28-08-2011
Originally Posted by Brekkie:
“Any figures for the athletics yesterday morning. Hopefully fairly low I suspect the more who watched yesterdays car crash, the less who'll watch over the coming week.”

Would very much like to see these figures.

We are talking about an event that until recently was one of the very biggest on the sporting calendar. Indeed it's a Listed Event (though only on the B List).

It moves to C4 and it appears interest has fallen very substantially.
Charnham
28-08-2011
just noticed the ratings of Epic Win, the BBC was always tempting fate with that title, Epic Fail as expected.
RobbieSykes123
28-08-2011
Originally Posted by soupnazi:
“In Robbie's world 'BBC viewers' are too busy having supper on their holidays in Tuscany to watch. 'ITV viewers' sit in squalid council slums and eat their own children.”

Cut the "eat their own children" bit, and I think there's logic in that proposition.

Is true "Middle Britain" not more likely to watch key BBC programming like Doctor Who and holiday in Tuscany during the school summer holidays, than watch key ITV shows like Jeremy Kyle or TXFTNG and not have a summer holiday at all (or a week in a caravan in Blackpool)?

Originally Posted by Roscoe Barnes:
“Could TXF actually rise again after everyone (including myself) predicted it would definitely decline this year?”

A sweeping statement, and patently wrong.

I, for one, have not predicted that the absence of Mr Cowell would have the slightest impact on TXFTNG's ratings; indeed, I have consistently said that his absence may cause new viewers to tune in.

And I am clearly not the only person on this thread who said it wouldn't make a difference.

Originally Posted by Charnham:
“just noticed the ratings of Epic Win, the BBC was always tempting fate with that title, Epic Fail as expected.”

I've been on holiday (admittedly not in Tuscany...), so not seen either episode, but I'm sure there were high hopes resting on this and it's not had bad reviews like ...Hare did, has it?

Surely the worst trailer in the history of TV ensured this one was stillborn, effectively put down by the Beeb before birth?
Charnham
28-08-2011
the trailer didnt help im sure, but I had already written the show off, title alone.
garyessex
28-08-2011
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“Cut the "eat their own children" bit, and I think there's logic in that proposition.

Is true "Middle Britain" not more likely to watch key BBC programming like Doctor Who and holiday in Tuscany during the school summer holidays, than watch key ITV shows like Jeremy Kyle or TXFTNG and not have a summer holiday at all (or a week in a caravan in Blackpool)?

A sweeping statement, and patently wrong.

I, for one, have not predicted that the absence of Mr Cowell would have the slightest impact on TXFTNG's ratings; indeed, I have consistently said that his absence may cause new viewers to tune in.

And I am clearly not the only person on this thread who said it wouldn't make a difference.



I've been on holiday (admittedly not in Tuscany...), so not seen either episode, but I'm sure there were high hopes resting on this and it's not had bad reviews like ...Hare did, has it?

Surely the worst trailer in the history of TV ensured this one was stillborn, effectively put down by the Beeb before birth?”

Thats rather a sweeping generalisation there
GeorgeS
28-08-2011
I thought all ITV viewers holidayed in Benidorm
Roscoe Barnes
28-08-2011
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
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A sweeping statement, and patently wrong.

I, for one, have not predicted that the absence of Mr Cowell would have the slightest impact on TXFTNG's ratings; indeed, I have consistently said that his absence may cause new viewers to tune in.

And I am clearly not the only person on this thread who said it wouldn't make a difference.”

Hmmm, well, I think the majority of people on here predicted some form of decline, saying it must have peaked by now cos last years ratings we're gigantic. So you expected TXF to continue to rise given how big the figures were last year?
Georged123
28-08-2011
Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“And Will Young squashing Celebrity BB - who would have thought?”

Is the benchmark for most ITV1 shows in the 9pm hour now just to beat C5?

How the mighty have fallen...
RobbieSykes123
28-08-2011
Originally Posted by Roscoe Barnes:
“Hmmm, well, I think the majority of people on here predicted some form of decline, saying it must have peaked by now cos last years ratings we're gigantic. So you expected TXF to continue to rise given how big the figures were last year?”

No, I just don't see why the absence of Cowell or Tweedy, or the introduction of the Take That bloke, should force millions to switch off.

I expect it will rate similar in 2011 to 2010.

Sadly...
soupnazi
28-08-2011
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“No, I just don't see why the absence of Cowell or Tweedy, or the introduction of the Take That bloke, should force millions to switch off.

I expect it will rate similar in 2011 to 2010.

Sadly...”

Really? Must have been a different Robbie who wrote on July 22:

Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“I'm hoping it will be me and the small band of other Ratings Thread Cowell-deniers who will be making all the "wow" comments this autumn, whilst the rest of you sure in stunned silence.

The slide's gotta happen some time... ...”

RobbieSykes123
28-08-2011
Originally Posted by soupnazi:
“Really? Must have been a different Robbie who wrote on July 22:”



I don't think there's any secret that I'd like TXF to slide in the ratings. As it will, one day.

But I don't think it will happen this year just because Cowell has left. (Or supposedly left...)

So, if you want to trawl through all my posts, find a few where I've said I don't expect it to fall this year. There's plenty to choose from.
Dancc
28-08-2011
Sounds like ESPN's game this afternoon was a bit of a goal fest! I missed it somewhat typically, but looking forward to seeing how it rated.

That's bad news for CBB again tonight in the clash with MOTD.
Fudd
28-08-2011
I didn't realise ITV1 went with the stupid approach of splitting a film around the news. I wish they would just air the news early and then broadcast the film in one block. Still, their early evening performance will be very satisfying for them, with The X Factor performing better than last year and All Star Family Fortunes holding up well opposite Doctor Who. Maybe they should try it in the Tuesday 8pm slot? Will Young didn't perform as well as perhaps he should have had considering the lead in.

At least Epic Win isn't quite as low as Don't Scare the Hare. Without Outtake TV and Hole In the Wall BBC One are having problems with that early evening slot before the 60 minute programmes are cutting in. Total Wipeout performed reasonably well and Doctor Who will always timeshift strongly though considering its later start I was hoping for a few more - Charnham's right; it was brilliant last night. Casualty held up ok and Match of the Day did very well.

Last week I thought The X Factor gave Big Brother a boost, but maybe not. I think it gives a good indication to Channel 5 that they need to start a task after the eviction on Friday nights to keep viewers hooked to the Saturday show. The audience is there if required; last week's rating showed that. Otherwise, quite a poor night with the American crime dramas struggling against the juggernauts on the main two channels. Considering it's late running time, Law and Order: SVU did ok.

Intriguing scheduling from BBC Two - airing a Hitler documentary just after he's been locked in a closet on BBC One! BBC Proms seems higher than usual; was it a special? Dad's Army is always a consistent performer for the channel. The rugby highlights struggled to make much impact - maybe BBC One should've run them back to back with the Challenge Cup final and ditched Epic Win into the pit of axed shows, never to return.

Channel 4 are still flogging Come Dine With Me to death. My review of the channel's approach to it last night - that they're just using it as filler to try and bring in a few viewers - seems accurate. The World Championships were strangled by BBC One and ITV1 opposition and Great Migrations and Sex and the City struggled on what was quite a poor night.
Charnham
28-08-2011
the BBC needs to revive Generation Game for the tricky early evening slot.

It cant do any worse than Hare of Epic Win.

Im also thinking of a game show themed around life, but im not sure how it would work.
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