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Old 28-08-2011, 16:24
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Sounds like ESPN's game this afternoon was a bit of a goal fest! I missed it somewhat typically, but looking forward to seeing how it rated.

That's bad news for CBB again tonight in the clash with MOTD.
Manchester United v Arsenal will always draw in viewers, so that's going to be a problem as well.
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Old 28-08-2011, 16:33
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I think Channel 5 need to rethink the Saturday schedule because the US drama repeats are not going to work now all the big entertainment formats are returning. Last night's CSI: NY was one of the best episodes of all-time and it logged a pitiful 2% share because of the stupid timeslot it had. They should ditch the US drama repeats for a while and try movies instead, like Sundays. Providing they start before TXF, they should be good for at least a 4% audience share and prevent the night from being a total flop.

Unfortunately I fear they are going to put the new season of Law & Order: Criminal Intent in the pre-BB Saturday slot, which will be doomed to fail against Casualty and TXF and a waste of a good rating show.
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Old 28-08-2011, 16:35
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im not sure what Channel 5 has to put in that slot, if not US drama.

Maybe Desmond wil revive Generation Game next

If the new series of Charlie Angels had been a few years back I would suggest they use it to replace Charmed, but that is going to far back now.
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Old 28-08-2011, 16:42
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I think Channel 5 need to rethink the Saturday schedule because the US drama repeats are not going to work now all the big entertainment formats are returning. Last night's CSI: NY was one of the best episodes of all-time and it logged a pitiful 2% share because of the stupid timeslot it had. They should ditch the US drama repeats for a while and try movies instead, like Sundays. Providing they start before TXF, they should be good for at least a 4% audience share and prevent the night from being a total flop.

Unfortunately I fear they are going to put the new season of Law & Order: Criminal Intent in the pre-BB Saturday slot, which will be doomed to fail against Casualty and TXF and a waste of a good rating show.
Without Big Brother the line up of US drama made sense on a Saturday night - but BB frankly throws a spanner in the works as it's after a completely different audience to the shows around it.
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Old 28-08-2011, 16:45
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Without Big Brother the line up of US drama made sense on a Saturday night - but BB frankly throws a spanner in the works as it's after a completely different audience to the shows around it.
Yes, I agree. It's hurting SVU being so late, but it has to be because of BB taking priority and SVU not being pre-watershed friendly. Meanwhile the US dramas are not providing a relevant lead-in for BB at all. It's just not working and needs to be looked at urgently unless they want to sink to a depressing audience share every Saturday night.

Still, it could be worse. 3% for Channel 4? I thought their 3.3% a couple of weeks ago was bad. ITV2 must have ran it pretty close last night, if not beaten it.
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Old 28-08-2011, 16:57
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Manchester United v Arsenal will always draw in viewers, so that's going to be a problem as well.
4 goals in that one already at HT.

Duh duh duh! Very eventful day in the Premier League, MOTD should perform very well indeed tonight.
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Old 28-08-2011, 17:03
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When Athletics starts the events are scheduled from 7:00 - I suspect BBC2 is the more likely option.
I only checked for the first week of the two, where the swimming sessions start at 7.30pm, so BBC One will have room for EastEnders at 7pm that week, if they choose.
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Old 28-08-2011, 17:04
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DS forgot to mention how The Gadget Show did on Friday. It had 768k (3.4%) between 8-9pm.
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Old 28-08-2011, 17:07
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Soap fans on this forum are going to be torn - on the one hand they won't be able to complain about the Olympics taking over completely, leaving them with no EE - on the other they might be a little upset when its ratings slump massively.
Well, it's going to take a hit whatever happens: it'll either be on the right channel at the wrong time, or the wrong channel at the right time!

Whichever option (or combination thereof) is chosen, I'd still prefer it over having no EastEnders for a fortnight.
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Old 28-08-2011, 17:10
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DS forgot to mention how The Gadget Show did on Friday. It had 768k (3.4%) between 8-9pm.
Or maybe they didn't forget, they just wanted to save it embarrassment.
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Old 28-08-2011, 17:13
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No, the original interview was quite clear, but it has been altered to create a story. rzt's post neatly summarizes the whole thing.
Ah, so the wrong end of the stick was grasped second hand.
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Old 28-08-2011, 17:17
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With the current state of TV I'm not sure any channel deserves the award, but I guess ITV1 gets credit for their run of new dramas breaking through - though that seems so long ago when you're in the middle of summer ratings.
I wouldn't say ITV1 has had a good year since the last Festival, but it did have a good seven or eight months, so I suppose that what the judge(s) looked at.
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Old 28-08-2011, 17:17
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Good start for Doctor Who, I always look at the 6m overnight and then think "ouch", only to think "oh yeah, 2 million people can't be bothered to watch it live". I do find it peculiar, to be honest. Another great rating for X Factor. I see not many hung around for Will Young though.

Not sure what to think about CBB, but I'm not hopeful for tonight.
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Old 28-08-2011, 17:20
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After watching the BBC's remake of Upstairs, Downstairs, I'm sure it's not just Fellowes who believes that.
I wonder how Upstairs Downstairs would have rated on ITV1, straight after X Factor results.
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Old 28-08-2011, 17:23
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im going to loose respect for the British public, if Doctor Who isnt watched by by at least 8 million, it was AWESOME.

You guys may have noticed I really liked yesterdays Doctor Who


I watched it, but, despite having seen every episode since the mid-1980s, I'm not entirely sure I understood it all.
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Old 28-08-2011, 17:26
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Good start for Doctor Who, I always look at the 6m overnight and then think "ouch", only to think "oh yeah, 2 million people can't be bothered to watch it live". I do find it peculiar, to be honest..
However, if technology allows it, why not take advantage of being able to timeshift to a more suitable (or less TV-busy) time. So it's not always a case of not being bothered to watch live, more a case of using technology and devices to fit in with lifestyle.

After all, why have a PVR if you watch everything live, or miss things when you are otherwise engaged?
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Old 28-08-2011, 17:33
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cept X factor is up 1 million on last years 2nd audition show
Stlll think it's hit a plateau now and still excellent in our multichannel world. However, there are millions of antis who want an alternative and the other channels are at least providing a decent alternative. I was watching Vintage TV.
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Old 28-08-2011, 17:38
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As lazy as it is I do think the BBC should just stick something like My Family repeats in that 5.30pm slot. After all for most of the 90s in the House Party/Generation Game era it was usually Dads Army repeats at 5.30pm - and occassionally "Stay Tooned" IIRC.

ITV have pretty much given up now commissioning new shows pre-7pm on Saturday nights apart from You've Been Framed so there isn't much reason for the BBC to commission for the 5.30pm slot IMO.
I'd be happy to see My Family repeats there, and there have been a few there in the past, but the BBC are unwilling to pay for primetime repeats of it anymore, (I think the last ones in any evening slot were in 2009), and I have a feeling 5.30pm on Saturday might count as primetime for repeat fees.
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Old 28-08-2011, 17:39
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Or maybe they didn't forget, they just wanted to save it embarrassment.
They now waste at least 4 minutes per episode on the competition segment with someone running around naming as many gadgets as they can that you can then win. What braniac thought this was a good use of airtime for a show that was already losing momentum? If anything the competition segment needed trimming down. I highly doubt making it as long as possible has that much of an impact on how many people enter, but it sure makes for a boring 4 minutes of telly.
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Old 28-08-2011, 17:41
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4 goals in that one already at HT.

Duh duh duh! Very eventful day in the Premier League, MOTD should perform very well indeed tonight.
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Old 28-08-2011, 17:42
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However, if technology allows it, why not take advantage of being able to timeshift to a more suitable (or less TV-busy) time. So it's not always a case of not being bothered to watch live, more a case of using technology and devices to fit in with lifestyle.

After all, why have a PVR if you watch everything live, or miss things when you are otherwise engaged?
What I don't get is why people would view Family Fortunes 'live' compared to Doctor Who? It just seems to me odd why people don't consider Doctor Who appointment to view anymore. I could understand if it clashed with X Factor or something, but it doesn't. It's odd.
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Old 28-08-2011, 17:43
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In the meantime, have two graphs: http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/1061/graphsq.png
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Old 28-08-2011, 17:51
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(Don't press "show" if you want to watch MOTD2 without knowing the scores - no results in post but there are hints.)
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Old 28-08-2011, 17:53
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What I don't get is why people would view Family Fortunes 'live' compared to Doctor Who? It just seems to me odd why people don't consider Doctor Who appointment to view anymore. I could understand if it clashed with X Factor or something, but it doesn't. It's odd.
I suppose Family Fortunes is easy to watch even if there are people chattering beside you, but I think Doctor Who needs 100% (or more!) concentration these days. so possibly better to watch it alone sometime during the week.
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Old 28-08-2011, 17:56
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I'd be happy to see My Family repeats there, and there have been a few there in the past, but the BBC are unwilling to pay for primetime repeats of it anymore, (I think the last ones in any evening slot were in 2009), and I have a feeling 5.30pm on Saturday might count as primetime for repeat fees.
I don't know - technically it begins at 6pm but I guess unofficially it's news to news. Something like the reworked Horrible Histories would work there too.
For those wondering, live Athletics coverage yesterday from 10:30 to 15:10 on Channel 4 had less than 0.6m and was not inside the top 50 programmes yesterday on UK TV. The audience share as a result will only be about ~6%. It was at least third out of the five terrestrials, both ITV1 and BBC One were higher during that time period. The highlights programme at 19:10 had 0.6m (2.8%), however was last of the five terrestrials at that time.

Does anyone know how much Channel 4 paid for the rights? Because either way, they're not getting their money's worth...
Thanks. It'll be interesting if people find it today for the 100m final and 10,000m final - both of which were very eventful and landmark moments in the Championships really. And if people haven't seen them, will they tune in for the highlights tonight against lesser competition having heard about them this afternoon.
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